Yeah although it’s sad to say it but they sort of deserve what Ganguly had to face back in the 2000s when he had been dropped and had to work his way back through his stellar Ranji performances for Bengal eventually leading them all the way to the final
@@amrilovesart abe trophhy toh baad ke baat hain, pehle acchi cataintecy aur batting chahiye, in dono ne bohot karli past mein aur naturally they are losing their stick for the game as they age and its fine, i am not waiting for an comeback, we need reliable long term investment in young player not legacy players who are here for god knows what reasons still clinging to their place in the national team
Y r u still believing that mf you guys saying this for past 4 years . Just one just one. He'll just hit a century and fans start celebrating than he won't perform for next 5 months
@@rajeshrs1226exactly, i agree totally..... For the past 4 years, only 2 test centuries, and not even able play spin and pace, getting out same way every match......... Both rohit and kohli should head their way out......
I think I’m in the majority, especially after scouring through these comments in saying, Rohit should be done. The biggest red flag is his lack of trust in defence and him getting bowled against pace frequently (even on the rank turners in India) The eyes are just not there and he’s slow to meet the ball. His captaincy has been abhorrent and overall just seems to be nowhere. Kohlis issue is application. Obviously it isn’t fair to say that kohlis average against spin as been abhorrent because india since 2021 have been making shittips to bat on. (Curious to see the batting averages on those Indian wickets) Very few players have averaged too many on those tracks. Today’s innings also showed that if Kohli applies himself he does have the game to play pace. Today’s innings was reminiscent of Smiths 17(60) he scored in Perth. Ideally you want Kohli to convert those and I think that the ability/technique and age is there. His fitness is also not an issue. I think the best move would be for Rohit to retire, Kohli to stay back and help groom the next captain (hopefully under a new coach- my vote goes to VVS) the next task is a tough one, and hopefully after the 2025 IPL, Kohli moves to the UK and plays some county cricket there the way Sachin did (the best of both worlds where he can be in a stress free environment with his family whilst also staying in touch with the game and preparing himself for the national team)
These are some of the best opinion i have heard, absolutely right. I don't know for some reason I feel like kohli is going to play test until age 40, maybe he doesnt but my gut feeling says that he will just like sachin. because he a batsman who constantly corrects the things he does wrong and bring in improvement, of the exception is the off side balls but maybe he will conquer them as well. and yes maybe its time for rohit to go from test and maybe playing the champions trophy in 2025 and captioning the side will be the perfect ocassion for him retire from ODI as well. Honestly speaking, if rohit and kohli both go from the team, there will be no really senior player left with authority except jadeja but jadeja has never captioned the side so I think that its important for kohli to stay. and the remaining matches of australia and of course england series next year and probably if kohli choses to play some ranjhi or county cricket will be the key things for kohli to prove himself and sustain his career. and as kohli always says, god has a play. Lets see what happens.
Totally agreed here. I had doubts regarding Kohli, but the hunger to improve and do it again was evident in him today. He had a high control percentage with clarity. Just that silly run out made things hazy, otherwise he was batting absolutely solid like he was never out of form. For Rohit, I can see his reflexes getting slow from NZ series. And on these spicy pitches against this bowling line up he barely can survive, forget scoring runs. So, next to go is Rohit, not Kohli. Kohli has to stay because in test cricket you never change the entire line up in one go but as a slow transition
@@malamsingh1944 yup I observed it too he was playing really good and his defence was good he was not chasing ball he was leaving perfectly he was pulling ball perfectly he was doing everything right. but after that run out he lost the confidence and chased a bad ball.
I guess if things stay as they are, Rohit will probably announce retirement himself. Virat on the other hand could probably be given a few chances here and there
@@TalismanR1907Virat has the ability to do it(ofc he does) and we saw it today but as soon as his zone was disturbed a little bit with a runout which was mostly caused by him, he went to runscoring mentality and went for the ball just to get out The best players have to keep calm in pressure situations
I hope both Rohit and Virat put aside their ego and retire after the BGT for the sake of Indian Cricket. They served the country well, but it's time to bid adieu.
Looking Virat bat today, he was looking so solid. Only one weakenes, and if we can conquer it then he is all good to play long. For Rohit, time is already up. Fitness and age are also not his side
@@anuragsinghp2pSince 4 years listening same he is looking good on crease but still averaging 30 for no 4 batsman in test team since last 4 years which is for your best batsman in team.
@@Gcchbh4c idk it's his problem he have to find answer. I am just comparing two guys here Virat and Rohit... how virat can still play if can correct his flaws but in case of Rohit he is done with test cricket
They did away with Pujara and Rahane. The standards should not change for others. But they would need a senoir player like Virat for atleast 1 more cycle and his fitness allows him to do that. While, fitness is surely a issue for Hitman, plus his loose captaincy does him no good. He is a liability for the team. ICT must change the captain asap after this series is over. Boom should b full time captain. Then, I don't think there'll b place for hitman in the team. As for Virat, he is going to be part of team for 1 more cycle unless he decides not to be. Lastly, PR of both these players is toxic and leaves no chance of insulting one other. These idol worshippers must understand that no player is greater than the team and stop flooding internet with their biases.
Rohit is done for sure and I think Virat will struggle more in England than Australia because of swing condition 😢 and the next test series is after 6 month
Taking relative averages can help your analysis better. Kohli did get weak against spin but so has everyone in the Indian test side, only jaiswal averages more than 50 against spin and he got to play in that series against England where batting conditions were better in which he scored bulk of his runs, leave that out, kohli averages the same as rest of the team against spin. Despite his struggles with the outside off ball, he still isn't doing worse than the rest of the team against pace in SENA, again averages the same . He played only 4 away tours post 2020 bgt (after which his problems started), in Eng, 2 in SA and now in Aus. He averaged only 30+ in Eng tour, which is bad for his standards but not bad enough to be considered in discussions to get him dropped. Had a standout performance in SA 2023, averaged 40+ in SA 2021. In this BGT, he is doing bad but has a century. If you are looking only into this recent sample of NZ series and BGT, sure drop him but that's a very small sample size to take such a big decision. To simplify all of that, he is doing as good as the team or as worse as the team. If you look into Sachin's final years, it's the same, as good as the team or as worse as the team except most top 6-7 batters in his final years were able to maintain that 45+ average. But in Kohli's final years the top 6-7 batters average in 30s to mid 30s.
Virat Kohli could not face spin as we produced "Rank turners" and thanks to "wobble ball" everyone were unable to face pace and for Rohit it is the same for spin but still in past 4 years he was the best as playing spin in "Rank turners" but not now and for Pace I do not know. Not everyone is 'Sachin' and should not aim to be. Kohli looked very good today but thanks to very very early nightwatchman he lost his wickets(Blud Kohli faced 88 balls). BTW Boland(Check past ashes- Eng played out of crease and also smacked him as you cannot defend him.Defend him at your own peril.) when attacked becomes average bowler and Starc can he managed but Cummins is the main problem. I still think we can draw this match.
Rohit never was a test batsman, and has been subpar as a captain. Needs to say adios as soon as MCG is done. Virat has served the team well, made heaps of runs in SENA tests and double hundreds at home. He too needs to just focus on ODIs now. We need to look beyond them and start grooming the upcoming generation.
These are some of the best opinion i have heard, absolutely right. I don't know for some reason I feel like kohli is going to play test until age 40, maybe he doesnt but my gut feeling says that he will just like sachin. because he a batsman who constantly corrects the things he does wrong and bring in improvement, of the exception is the off side balls but maybe he will conquer them as well, and of course minding how fit kohli is, maybe the fitest cricketer indian team has ever had, if not that then one of the fitest. and yes maybe its time for rohit to go from test and maybe playing the champions trophy in 2025 and captianing the side will be the perfect ocassion for him retire from ODI as well. Honestly speaking, if rohit and kohli both go from the team, there will be no really senior player left with authority except jadeja but jadeja has never captioned the side so I think that its important for kohli to stay. and the remaining matches of australia and of course england series next year and probably if kohli choses to play some ranjhi or county cricket will be the key things for kohli to prove himself and sustain his career. and as kohli always says, god has a play. Lets see what happens.
It's not fair to drop kholi, because he looked perfect, he is eager to score runs,because of run out totally changed i think kholi have a answer in 2nd innings let's wait and see
Honestly if virat doesn't score in the next 3 innings of this series he needs to be given one last chance and if he still fails he needs to step out and make way! Can't be said the same for RO tho, everything from his captaincy to his Batting seems to have left him. In test cricket you need proactive captaincy and rohit's captaincy looks very very reactive, which sucks, because the more time you give to the batsmen the more trouble they are going to create. RO's batting seems to be purely focused on the T20 intent, bro is just trying to go for the big shots instead of being disciplined and wait. As a fan of RO-KO this is a sad sight😭
ROHIT KO AB SYDNEY TEST MAIN BAHAR BAITHANA CHAIYE PANOTI CAPTAIN ......😢😢😢😢 VIRAT KI INNING KA KYA FAYADA JO TEAM KE KABHI KSM HI NA AYE ??? USKO AB TEST SE RETIRE HO JANA CHAIYE
if indian retains BGT people will rohit captaincy did it.. But neutral & true indian fans would know that if india retains BGT it will be due to Bumrah,Washi,reddy and here and there cameos of KL,Jaishwal,jadeja,
Both the decision will be definitely taken by themselves.as nobody has the guts to drop both of them. From this scenario, Rohit continuing play will be an absolute crime because not only his batting also captaincy and techniques. For the case of Virat Kohli, he can take just one more opportunity to aside his ego and just try to comeback because of his test memories.
because jaddu is performing and giving match winning and match saving knocks not like kohli and rohit who is constantly failing and giving wickets in a similar manner
Worst test avg since Jan 2020 (min 2000 runs): 1) Crawley 30.8 2) Kohli 31.7 Crawley has played 30 innings more than Kohli. Moreover he opens the batting & has a SR of 66 in this period owing to his aggressive bazball style of play... This show how pathetic Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... That too he bats @ #4 position which is where the best batter in a test side bats... Sharma's poor form in tests has been in last 14 innings, but Kohli has been totally $hit in tests for 5 long years... Don't think any other player has got a rope of 5 years in spite of being in poor form...
Should rohit retire from the test format , yes . But should virat retire , no ! Because senior players not only contribute the team with their batting but also with their experience and guidance . Our batting order already has a lot of youngsters like jaiswal , gill and Nitish Kumar reddy. during this transition , team should release their seniors one by one not as a pack as it would create a big hole to fill which will create a lot of pressure on youngsters . And i still feel that virat had 2-3 years of good cricket left in him so ideally i would continue virat unless he performs really bad .
Virat: A player who we lost in CoVid. After started playing without crowd and not winning ICC Cups, IPL cup, ruthless youngsters made him weak. Now he is trying to bring back fire by nusance in his behaviour. Anyhow, let us see if it works. On the otherhand. Rohit: I think whatever Cricket by JB covered is more than enough.
Nobody is talking about Pant not getting runs, has scored less than Virat in the same amount of innings and has an average of 20.7.Apart from the 1st innings in Perth hasn't looked in flow.
I heard Bairstow once say that in T20s whether you are in form or no doesn't matter. If it's your day, then you will score if it's not then you won't. Seems like Rohit Sharma and Kohli with their attacking mindset are simply waiting for their days. Playing every format as if it's a T20 match and wishing to end it in a hurry as if there is somewhere better they could be in, is not sustainable. You might have a good knock once in a while but eventually your luck will run out. I think Kohli still to a degree showed decent discipline in the last innings in leaving the balls and frustrating the Australian attack but Rohit Sharma not playing defensively was very very disappointing. I have cheered for the way Rohit Sharma bats in ODIs but deep inside even I realize that as you age, technical flaws will show and hand eye coordination will worsen. And while this mode of putting every ball for a six or boundary might be entertaining, if it's not your day then it can cost you an entire series or tournament. Players need to learn the difference between attacking and slogging, you punish the bad balls and defend the good ones. You build your innings around singles and doubles. As the old adage goes, singles lead to doubles and doubles to boundaries. It might not be the most entertaining bit but it sure will give us comfortable wins. Just an opinion tho^
This is the respect you are giving to the palyers who is the backbone to our Indian team. Until Bangladesh series Rohit did well right, why don't you wait for him to decide. He knows he is struggling currently but let him decide. He is a selfless player, at least wait for his words. Don't poke him with your impatient words. See the Australians how they are backing there players, Indians want Australia mentality but don't support their players like them.
The question who is going to replace virat kohli if he retire i mean we could not find pujara replacement and we are here to drop virat which quiet 50 -50 situation right now .rohit looking really miserably when it come test captaincy honesty speaking in home test series against England it was jadeja , ashwin who save us in bowling and jai swal , gill and Sarfaraz. i don't know wtf give idea about non sense intent to rohit i mean good in home track but not sena country . I feel make captain to bumrah or kl rahul
Both virat and rohit failed to show average consistency since 2020. They had 3/4 years to improve and bring back consistency. Now its endgame even hardcore fans are saying them to retire. .
Apart from the batting, I'm also concerned about bowling... because just in case Bumrah is injured and Shami recovering from injury who is going to be your three fast bowlers. And also variety in pace bowling isn't there like we had in the past with the pace quartet of Bumrah, Shami, Ishant and Umesh.
For those people who are saying Rohit should retire but not VK- Both should retire after BGT. Rohit had fantastic last 5 years in Test cricket while VK was clearly struggling. Now Rohit's form is worst. Looks like he cannot even last one ball whereas bowlers have a plan to bowl to VK. Both are liabilities for the team.
padikkal needs to do well in domestic circuit consistently maybe. I feel there is no good replacement for virat kholi currently. KL has done well opening so opening is sorted for sometime I guess
@Kushagra-n2b He is an opener right and also he didn't do well during India A vs Australia A. That could be possible reason for not playing him. Sai Sudarshan good be good option if they can take him to England.
@@Kushagra-n2bEswaran had a great chance to make it to the 11, but I saw his batting on Aus pitches. It was just horrible, poor and he didn't looked ready for it, atleast for SENA conditions.
I have also been seeing the problems like everyone else, but I have different opinions. Let me list them down here. 1- Virat Kohli, despite being in the later part of his career, is one of the fittest guys in the camp currently. So his situation is very similar to that of Jaddu, as described in the video. Talking of the form, yes he has had a tough time, but you would usually want to pick him not JUST for pressure absorbing, but also for the huge number of bowlers, pitches and weathers he has faced. With that experience, you must also understand that the more matches a player has under his belt, the better understanding he has of the game itself as a whole. If you leave his dramas of the fourth BGT test aside, he brings a lot of smartness and good understanding of the game with him, just like Jasprit Bumrah 2- Rohit Sharma's case is one which I think has been very harshly dealt with. First of all, he's 37, not 38, so he has a ray of hope to play one more WTC cycle if he wishes to. Secondly, he has scored consistently until the NZ home series this year. Even in the NZ series he had a half century which he couldn't continue because he unfortunately played the ball onto his stumps. So technically, he hasn't had the run scoring issue which Virat has had. He has a rough "patch" rather than tough outings for a very long time. 3- Talking of Rohit's captaincy, firstly, it could be possible that his "rough patch" might have affected him mentally as well, in my humble opinion. But if you look beyond this, till the NZ series, one would still have regarded him as one the best red ball captains at the moment. The NZ series sweep was a result of repetitive batting collapses which, judging after watching the matches and dismissals again, couldn't have been controlled by him as captain. Moreover, I think that it is natural human tendency that when you are a spectator watching things not go as expected, we start to find out loopholes. The same is happening with Rohit's captaincy. I feel that the coach has a hand in the kind of captaincy we have seen since the NZ series. Rohit Sharma is the captain who put India on the top across formats swiftly after becoming captain, and he was the one who took us to the WTC 2023 final. So a big thing to look at might just be the coach instead of the captain. The captain is the same person as he was then.
Can't agree more. But I have a slight different connotation regarding this. As time approaches India has to settle down with a new captain for the rest of the series and WTC cycle. And Jaspreet Bumrah as a captain, has shown promising results, although the sample size is not that big. Rahul also have succeeded in his captaincy stints. I rather would like to see Rohit plays without the burden of captaincy and bring out the best of him. At least he should be given with a chance.
@@AshokKumar-xi6uc see, i would say that captaincy is not a burden. he has been captaining in all formats for the last couple of years. like i said, till the nz home series, there were no problems with his captaincy as well as batting. and like i said, rohit is 37, so he can definitely push for another wtc cycle ONLY IF HE WISHES TO. bcci will definitely back him if he thinks of continuing red ball. i suspect that his sudden dip is influenced by the coach, because earlier, he was all fine. the captain is not the only person making the decisions, the coach also sends messages. yes, bumrah and kl have been great captains in the small sample size, i do not deny it. but i simply argue that his captaincy has never caused him problems, we have seen this for the past 2 years. i suspect the coach for it, his thought processes etc. but i am glad that you agree with most part of what i say
@@VelocityViper-f7l Oh yes! I certainly agree with this as well. I believe Rohit has plenty of more to contribute with. And you interestingly have pointed out the coach factor. I mean, yeah under GG, the team doesn't look settled down. Now, idk whether this has any cure tbh.
I disagree with your last point about captaincy. He is a great white ball captain but the mindset doesn't work in tests, specially the matches which ain't played on dust bowls. His captaincy showed glimpses of defensive mindset, white ball field sets, poor bowling changes, not reading the pulse of test cricket. And these things are not about 1 or 2 odd sessions, these are there to see since a long time now whenever our ace bowlers don't get wkts in their first spell. Also, his fitness is not upto the mark to wrestle against his growing age... reflexes are getting too slow to be considered an opener in SENA conditions. I see Rohit retiring after this series clearly
@@malamsingh1944 you actually did not get what i talked about. yes, he is one of the greatest white ball captains, at least in the last 2-3 years. but he has been an all format captain for about 2 years. he is the exact same captain who took on indian tes team captaincy and put india on the top of the leaderboard. he is the captain with whom we reached wtc final in 2023. what i want to point out is that the coach is what is driving these field placements and defensive mindset. till the bangladesh test series, and most part of nz series, he was the same as he was earlier. the coach must have caused the problems, with his batting as well as captaincy. every time you see a collapse in last few tests, it has happened in a group. so we see a hint of unwanted change which was not there before "GG era" and the team was doing just fine. And i will disagree on your point of Rohit's fitness. he is super fit, only thing is that he doesn't look like he is fit. if you'll go to team india's coaches and physios, they will tell you that he is as fit as Virat. and what you said about reflexes, that is just a rumour started by critics to justify rohit's retirement. reflexes do not start to fail at the age of 37. at the age of 45-50, yes, but 37 is not the age when that thing happens.
Kids talking about letting go of the King and the Hitman .... This has come down to this... And replace them with who... Shubham Gill and Jaiswal... I mean they're gonna be great in a couple of yrs ...but it ain't time... and Kohli has a score to settle so that he could be amongst the great test batters of all time
Alright so u want the team to keep giving chances to Rohit and Kohli despite of their lackluster performance rather than giving opportunities to young lads to develope their game. Bro both Kohli and Rohit have became deadweight for our team and it's high time we let these two depart for good.
I think they should be dropped if India doesn't qualify for the WTC final. It makes no sense to carry them into the next cycle. Bumrah should be our Test captain and Rishabh Pant should be Vice captain going forward
They should both be selfless and retire. They are both clearly out of form and by the time they get back into form it would be retirement age anyway. Bumrah who is on fire does a great job as captain and his form would inspire the players. You want a captain who has positive energy on his side and not negative which is what Sharma has because of his bad form. It is costing India wins.
I think Rohit Sharma should leave red ball cricket, he has nothing to prove there anyways and he can focus entirely on India’s ODI campaign. Kohli, as someone mentioned below should try and play some county, even if he decides to skip the IPL for one or two years. But I guess, I’m preaching to the choir.
Also there is a fact that ..the job of a openers is to make the new ball old ur best batsmen at no4 should not play or make play new ball or make him play ball which is too old
Better batsmen in the team? Let's wait for Gill to blossom! None of them are consistent. Gambhir and Rohit are not performing at all. Throughout this series we are seeing batting collapse.
Echo your views. Bumrah for captain, bring in the youngsters.. they can't be any worse than Sharma and Kohli. But Kohli and Sharma sell tickets and are of commercial value. Also, "Itself" count - 6 😅
Kohli is not going to retire, pretty sure with his contemporaries Smith, Root and Williamson still going strong in the red ball game so he'll be keen on leaving his mark also he is close to 10,000 runs in tests so he's definitely not retiring anytime soon also he's younger than Rohit. But looking at his form, there's no doubt he should be dropped, asked to play domestic and earn his way back into the squad, but that will take some balls from the selectors and I don't see it happening. But coming to Rohit, he seems to be done, he should retire irrespective of the outcome of this series, thanks for your contributions but it's time to move on
Rohit is finished tbh. He was never a good test batsman barring 2/3 series awful in overseas as well avgs lesser than Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Virat should be given rope till next England series. He looked so good in Perth and today. More of mental block than technical.
Yes it seems possibly they also dont believe they will be dropped so they dont subconciously have that drive enough as they know their place is never gonna go in the squad leading to less competitiveness and more ego possibly, if theyre dropped they can become better but they are old now
Make kl open and after virat may be they might make play shubman at no 4 and at no 3 may be sarfaraz or any other...but surely shubman gonna play at no 4
Yep india should drop rohit sharma who scores most runs & centuries for wtc cycles jusy basic of 2-3 bad series for sure he should get dropped & god of cricket virat kohli should be backed even he isn't consistent from last 3-4 years but still he should get backed in basic of 1 good innings because he is key factor for team
I am just baffled at the fact that how many people back virat just because he played ok in this match. He has abyssal in the last four years . In fact i would drop him first before rohith but rohith needs to be dropped from captaincy immediately. Kohli needs to go period
Infact Kohli has a hunger to improve, and he almost did that today. After that run out he lost it for a while and that's it, it was enough for Boland to nick him off. But talking about Rohit, he certainly the first man to be dropped from this team. He is a liability for team since he landed in Australia. Rohit first moved to 6, then dropped Gill to push KL at 3 and himself opened just to play the most ugliest pull with slow reflexes. If I had to drop one guy from this team, easily it would be Rohit. For the future, Virat had to stay with the team considering his age, fitness, hunger and experience to help the captain. Rohit just doesn't deserve to play red ball game now
For Rohit, his motappa and his age both caught him up. His body moves to the shot quite late. And kind of horrible series he is having its only justified he leaves himself after the series and hands it over to Bumrah. But at least since 2019 he has performed in most of the ocassions. He is the highest run scorer in this WTC cycle for India ig. But Kohli has been absolutely horrible since 2020. I dont know how people believe he is even remotely good and should continue playing. I dont want to know what his avg is, since last 3-4 yrs I have watched most of his innings and he never looked more than a 10-15 run batsman. The only dominant inning of him i can remember is the SA one, rest in almost all 100s it was flat wicket. Even this tour, his two scores came on tracks where there was plenty of runs on offer. If this is the standard of a no. 3/4 batsman that they can only score in flat pitches and not in any difficult wicket then its alarming. If the std of the team is so low that a 20-30 avg is getting accepted just bcoz of name of the player then its alarming. No point of defending him. Both needs to go. I am sure if groomed well Sai Sudarshan etc will do decent. At least better than Kohli doing now
Exactly, i think they should even be dropped from odi , because they are no longer match winners in any format , they are just avg players . If given some one can become better players by the end of the odi cycle or test cycle. It is clear even though if given chances they may fare better but never reach their prime . Because of our disgusting star culture and worship we are killing the prime of many people. Like ruturaj prime is being wasted in odi . Sudarshan purple patch in red ball is being wasted . We might just uncover an other prime sharma or kohli , we will never know because we were busy worshipping our old stars and failed to move on
Btw when were you guys droped from the Indian squad guys, haven't seen you two even in ipl , I think it's high time u guys need to make a comeback into the Indian squad since we seriously lack some once in a generation players🙏🙏
they are just giving their opinions on the FACT that kohli and rohit are not in good form and they need to be dropped as they are not scoring that many runs which anyone can see , i mean i also like virat and kohli but looking at their current form wtc final is going to be a dream coz they are the senior players they have to score :)
See there is never a need for once in a generation talent to win tournament. Just our thought to churn out stats rather than players is the reason for this lackluster performance.
@@abhinavmaharaj4804 true man totally agree with that but i think it’s a bit unfair to target just the senior players for the sake of it when our youngsters haven’t been among tons of runs barring a couple innings . The entire batting unit is to be blamed and not just a few individuals. If kohli and rohit haven’t scored big so hasn’t pant and gill
It's time for Virat to chill down and throw tantrums outside of the cricket ground. Rohit needs to go as well. We need to groom a new captain for the next cycle. Could GG have played a role in the player's performance in the last few series, as well?
drop rohit bring back gill , make bumrah the captain for the sydney test , siraj / harshit. probably rest siraj and bring harshit and keep the two spinners.
Definitely no to Virat Kohli dude he is looking good for a dady hundered today and give him one more cycle with captaincy and see can he fix this bowling line up and secondly Rohit Sharma it's time to say good bye after champions trophy it would be nice for him and for his reputation Rahul and jaiswal looking great gill should stepup or else sai sudarshan jurel are waiting Virat 4 5 pant and 6 I guess jaddu time is also up he is not having that work in his bowling like before washing and axer ready where are the fast bowlers india needs onther set of fast bowlers like Umesh ishanth shami bhivi where is umran Malik he can be a x factor on foreign pitches
I think,we can win,if we make another 160 runs from here (1.5 session/RR of 4) and keeps AUS under 300(2.5 session more/RR of 4) so,we would have left 1 day and 2 session,lets say 1 day and 1.5 session and with this,we will have trailed by 450,and then,we have to trust in our batting lineup,so we will have to play with a RR of 3.34,which seems possible
I can see that everyone's blaming both Virat and Rohit for the poor performance. Kindly note that Virat has scored a hundred already in Perth and is looking in good touch by negating the outside off deliveries. On the other hand, Rohit is clueless. So, dropping him would be the right choice instead of dropping both!
@@abhishekn9871 Name another Indian batter who scored a century besides Jaiswal and Kohli! You'll get none. Total indian batting is collapsing. Go watch cricket properly mate😂
@@JayarahulBJR typical blind Kohli's fanboy you are kiddo... In that 3rd innings, india were already solidly placed @ 270/2 with 300+ lead, even if he had got out for duck India would've easily won the game... All of his 3 test centuries in last 5 years have come like this itself... In other 5 innings, when the situation was much tougher, he has pi$$ed in pants... Since 2020, he has the 2nd worst test avg behind Crawley who opens the batting & plays aggressively due to bazball style of play... Shows how $hitty Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... Still blind fanboys like u are licking his shoes... And one thing, I've been watching cricket even before u were born itself, so don't teach dad how to make babies...
@@JayarahulBJR typical Kohli's brainwashed fanboy you are kiddo... In that 3rd innings, India were already solidly placed @ 270/2 with 300+ lead, so even if he had got out for duck India would've easily won the game... All of his 3 test centuries in last 5 years have come like this itself... In other 5 innings, when the situation was much tougher, he has pi$$ed in pants... Since 2020, he has the 2nd worst test avg behind Crawley who opens the batting & plays aggressively due to bazball style of play... Shows how $hitty Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... Still blind fanboys like u are licking his bo0ts... And one thing, I've been watching cricket even before u were born itself, so don't teach dad how to make babies...
Rohit should hand down the captaincy to Jasprit after this test. Considering his age and his recent form I dont think bcci will still like to keep him in team. Ofc I dont want rohit to face same think virat did in 2022 to be sacked down as cap. And as a ICT fan I hope if there is even something left in both Rohit and Virat pls let it out by next match or its farewell . At least Virat looked good in this series with 1 Hundred and in 1st innings of Melbourne test if Rohit didnt perform its bye bye bye. Anyways lets go for the win its too early to give up.
Bumrah cant captain every match because he is your fast bowler and also plays all 3 formats. If Bumrah needs to captain test team in every match, he should offload his other format matches. Being your main bowler and playing every match can be difficult and just one injury can worsen the situation.
@@prathamesshhh Maybe Bumrah can play test and T20 and should play very less ODI. He should be playing very less one of the format to avoid injury. He looks good aggressive test captain
Rohit has to go he was never a good red ball batter and captain. He must retire after 4th match for sake of bgt Ig not virat if he somehow score one 50 he'll play eng tour and ig that'll be his last.
Yeah i agree. They should retire after the end of BGT. With the next Wtc cycle it's time to give opportunities to the youngsters. Also virat should focus only on Odis since it's his best format
Both of them should be asked to play domestic cricket and be selected in the national team only if they do well there.
as said !!
bhai aur kitna cricket nichodega 2 logo se, they are fine getting retired they are enough money and awards
Yeah although it’s sad to say it but they sort of deserve what Ganguly had to face back in the 2000s when he had been dropped and had to work his way back through his stellar Ranji performances for Bengal eventually leading them all the way to the final
@@Amitkbe tu aisa mindset rakhke complain Karte raho ki koi trophy nhi a rhi h!
@@amrilovesart abe trophhy toh baad ke baat hain, pehle acchi cataintecy aur batting chahiye, in dono ne bohot karli past mein aur naturally they are losing their stick for the game as they age and its fine, i am not waiting for an comeback, we need reliable long term investment in young player not legacy players who are here for god knows what reasons still clinging to their place in the national team
As I big Rohit Sharma fan I find it hard to back him anymore and with full respect I must say that he should retire from test format
itna ganda besharm player/ captain cricket history main nahi hua
bcci mumbai kota ka tak chalega .??????
For Virat it's just 1 one innings and he will push it to England tour , but for Rohit it's difficult because of his age, captaincy and batting order.
Y r u still believing that mf you guys saying this for past 4 years . Just one just one. He'll just hit a century and fans start celebrating than he won't perform for next 5 months
@@rajeshrs1226exactly, i agree totally..... For the past 4 years, only 2 test centuries, and not even able play spin and pace, getting out same way every match......... Both rohit and kohli should head their way out......
chokli
I think I’m in the majority, especially after scouring through these comments in saying, Rohit should be done. The biggest red flag is his lack of trust in defence and him getting bowled against pace frequently (even on the rank turners in India) The eyes are just not there and he’s slow to meet the ball.
His captaincy has been abhorrent and overall just seems to be nowhere.
Kohlis issue is application. Obviously it isn’t fair to say that kohlis average against spin as been abhorrent because india since 2021 have been making shittips to bat on. (Curious to see the batting averages on those Indian wickets) Very few players have averaged too many on those tracks.
Today’s innings also showed that if Kohli applies himself he does have the game to play pace. Today’s innings was reminiscent of Smiths 17(60) he scored in Perth. Ideally you want Kohli to convert those and I think that the ability/technique and age is there. His fitness is also not an issue.
I think the best move would be for Rohit to retire, Kohli to stay back and help groom the next captain (hopefully under a new coach- my vote goes to VVS)
the next task is a tough one, and hopefully after the 2025 IPL, Kohli moves to the UK and plays some county cricket there the way Sachin did (the best of both worlds where he can be in a stress free environment with his family whilst also staying in touch with the game and preparing himself for the national team)
These are some of the best opinion i have heard, absolutely right. I don't know for some reason I feel like kohli is going to play test until age 40, maybe he doesnt but my gut feeling says that he will just like sachin. because he a batsman who constantly corrects the things he does wrong and bring in improvement, of the exception is the off side balls but maybe he will conquer them as well.
and yes maybe its time for rohit to go from test and maybe playing the champions trophy in 2025 and captioning the side will be the perfect ocassion for him retire from ODI as well.
Honestly speaking, if rohit and kohli both go from the team, there will be no really senior player left with authority except jadeja but jadeja has never captioned the side so I think that its important for kohli to stay. and the remaining matches of australia and of course england series next year and probably if kohli choses to play some ranjhi or county cricket will be the key things for kohli to prove himself and sustain his career.
and as kohli always says, god has a play. Lets see what happens.
Totally agreed here.
I had doubts regarding Kohli, but the hunger to improve and do it again was evident in him today. He had a high control percentage with clarity. Just that silly run out made things hazy, otherwise he was batting absolutely solid like he was never out of form.
For Rohit, I can see his reflexes getting slow from NZ series. And on these spicy pitches against this bowling line up he barely can survive, forget scoring runs. So, next to go is Rohit, not Kohli. Kohli has to stay because in test cricket you never change the entire line up in one go but as a slow transition
@@malamsingh1944 yup I observed it too he was playing really good and his defence was good he was not chasing ball he was leaving perfectly he was pulling ball perfectly he was doing everything right. but after that run out he lost the confidence and chased a bad ball.
Agreed
I guess if things stay as they are, Rohit will probably announce retirement himself.
Virat on the other hand could probably be given a few chances here and there
Virat and discipline, the one thing that he doesn't have but he needs it now to save his test career leaving balls
@ Literally it’s that simple yet so difficult to apply, let’s hope for something bigger for the rest of the series from both
@@TalismanR1907Virat has the ability to do it(ofc he does) and we saw it today but as soon as his zone was disturbed a little bit with a runout which was mostly caused by him, he went to runscoring mentality and went for the ball just to get out
The best players have to keep calm in pressure situations
Not Virat, but Rohit for sure!
Rohit has been performing from last 5 years but Virat is inconsistent
@@swanandgaikwad8746 what are you on
@@swanandgaikwad8746 You can clearly see virat scored 36 runs with some discipline..But rohit got out cheaply by a nothing shot
@@swanandgaikwad8746ew stop defending
@@dreroc3012watch the video man
I hope both Rohit and Virat put aside their ego and retire after the BGT for the sake of Indian Cricket. They served the country well, but it's time to bid adieu.
Virat shouldn't
Looking Virat bat today, he was looking so solid. Only one weakenes, and if we can conquer it then he is all good to play long.
For Rohit, time is already up. Fitness and age are also not his side
@@anuragsinghp2pSince 4 years listening same he is looking good on crease but still averaging 30 for no 4 batsman in test team since last 4 years which is for your best batsman in team.
@@malamsingh1944 weakness???
So what did he learn with all those years of experience??
To get out repeatedly
@@Gcchbh4c idk it's his problem he have to find answer. I am just comparing two guys here Virat and Rohit... how virat can still play if can correct his flaws but in case of Rohit he is done with test cricket
They did away with Pujara and Rahane. The standards should not change for others. But they would need a senoir player like Virat for atleast 1 more cycle and his fitness allows him to do that. While, fitness is surely a issue for Hitman, plus his loose captaincy does him no good. He is a liability for the team.
ICT must change the captain asap after this series is over. Boom should b full time captain. Then, I don't think there'll b place for hitman in the team.
As for Virat, he is going to be part of team for 1 more cycle unless he decides not to be.
Lastly, PR of both these players is toxic and leaves no chance of insulting one other. These idol worshippers must understand that no player is greater than the team and stop flooding internet with their biases.
Last paragraph is absolutely important for everyone to read, especially individual worshippers
Bumrah is not a full time test captain prospect due to being injury prone and needing to be rested on a frequent basis.
@@imonyahoo87 Only once he was injured for like pretty long time. else I have never seen him getting injured
Rohit is done for sure and I think Virat will struggle more in England than Australia because of swing condition 😢 and the next test series is after 6 month
Rohit should not play last test match if India are to win
Virat & rohit playing constantly in the team despite , scoring so poor is a clear example of when player become bigger than team
Taking relative averages can help your analysis better. Kohli did get weak against spin but so has everyone in the Indian test side, only jaiswal averages more than 50 against spin and he got to play in that series against England where batting conditions were better in which he scored bulk of his runs, leave that out, kohli averages the same as rest of the team against spin. Despite his struggles with the outside off ball, he still isn't doing worse than the rest of the team against pace in SENA, again averages the same . He played only 4 away tours post 2020 bgt (after which his problems started), in Eng, 2 in SA and now in Aus. He averaged only 30+ in Eng tour, which is bad for his standards but not bad enough to be considered in discussions to get him dropped. Had a standout performance in SA 2023, averaged 40+ in SA 2021. In this BGT, he is doing bad but has a century. If you are looking only into this recent sample of NZ series and BGT, sure drop him but that's a very small sample size to take such a big decision.
To simplify all of that, he is doing as good as the team or as worse as the team. If you look into Sachin's final years, it's the same, as good as the team or as worse as the team except most top 6-7 batters in his final years were able to maintain that 45+ average. But in Kohli's final years the top 6-7 batters average in 30s to mid 30s.
Atleast someone who is telling some fax😢
Virat Kohli could not face spin as we produced "Rank turners" and thanks to "wobble ball" everyone were unable to face pace and for Rohit it is the same for spin but still in past 4 years he was the best as playing spin in "Rank turners" but not now and for Pace I do not know. Not everyone is 'Sachin' and should not aim to be. Kohli looked very good today but thanks to very very early nightwatchman he lost his wickets(Blud Kohli faced 88 balls). BTW Boland(Check past ashes- Eng played out of crease and also smacked him as you cannot defend him.Defend him at your own peril.) when attacked becomes average bowler and Starc can he managed but Cummins is the main problem. I still think we can draw this match.
Rohit never was a test batsman, and has been subpar as a captain. Needs to say adios as soon as MCG is done. Virat has served the team well, made heaps of runs in SENA tests and double hundreds at home. He too needs to just focus on ODIs now. We need to look beyond them and start grooming the upcoming generation.
पता नहीं Indian batters किसमें अच्छे हैं।
घर में spin नहीं खेल पाते
बाहर pace नहीं खेल पाते
These are some of the best opinion i have heard, absolutely right. I don't know for some reason I feel like kohli is going to play test until age 40, maybe he doesnt but my gut feeling says that he will just like sachin. because he a batsman who constantly corrects the things he does wrong and bring in improvement, of the exception is the off side balls but maybe he will conquer them as well, and of course minding how fit kohli is, maybe the fitest cricketer indian team has ever had, if not that then one of the fitest.
and yes maybe its time for rohit to go from test and maybe playing the champions trophy in 2025 and captianing the side will be the perfect ocassion for him retire from ODI as well.
Honestly speaking, if rohit and kohli both go from the team, there will be no really senior player left with authority except jadeja but jadeja has never captioned the side so I think that its important for kohli to stay. and the remaining matches of australia and of course england series next year and probably if kohli choses to play some ranjhi or county cricket will be the key things for kohli to prove himself and sustain his career.
and as kohli always says, god has a play. Lets see what happens.
It's not fair to drop kholi, because he looked perfect, he is eager to score runs,because of run out totally changed i think kholi have a answer in 2nd innings let's wait and see
I'm sorry but even if kohli does well he should be dropped as he hasn't been good since 2020 let youngsters come, kohli is good in odi and t20 team
@violationz4842 yeah, we haven't seen that kholi, i agreed
R u dumb he isnt good for vk but for the team he still averages better than other player in the team like rishab rohit subhman jadddu😂😂
A person scored 81 test century and a run out caused to touch 5-6 stumps ball???? He is new in team?? Playing his first match?
Honestly if virat doesn't score in the next 3 innings of this series he needs to be given one last chance and if he still fails he needs to step out and make way!
Can't be said the same for RO tho, everything from his captaincy to his Batting seems to have left him.
In test cricket you need proactive captaincy and rohit's captaincy looks very very reactive, which sucks, because the more time you give to the batsmen the more trouble they are going to create.
RO's batting seems to be purely focused on the T20 intent, bro is just trying to go for the big shots instead of being disciplined and wait.
As a fan of RO-KO this is a sad sight😭
Heartbreaking 😢😢😢😢
Not virat but rohit for sure
Why not Virat. At present he is just a burden.
Virat is just a kid with big mouth. If you take his mouth he is just a shit.
ROHIT KO AB SYDNEY TEST MAIN BAHAR BAITHANA CHAIYE
PANOTI CAPTAIN ......😢😢😢😢
VIRAT KI INNING KA KYA FAYADA JO TEAM KE KABHI KSM HI NA AYE ???
USKO AB TEST SE RETIRE HO JANA CHAIYE
if indian retains BGT people will rohit captaincy did it.. But neutral & true indian fans would know that if india retains BGT it will be due to Bumrah,Washi,reddy and here and there cameos of KL,Jaishwal,jadeja,
Both the decision will be definitely taken by themselves.as nobody has the guts to drop both of them.
From this scenario, Rohit continuing play will be an absolute crime because not only his batting also captaincy and techniques.
For the case of Virat Kohli, he can take just one more opportunity to aside his ego and just try to comeback because of his test memories.
Virat was about to make a historic comeback today until Yashasvi's wicket , he needs backing and Rohit needs to hang his boots after this one tbvh
bro says virat n rohit dont have age left
then says jaddeja is only 38
because jaddu is performing and giving match winning and match saving knocks not like kohli and rohit who is constantly failing and giving wickets in a similar manner
@ he didn’t point that
He just pointed age weirdly
Jadeja is an allrounder
If not batting then he can bowl as well and also a gun fielder
He is said that jadeja will be 38 after the end of next wtc cycle.
Worst test avg since Jan 2020 (min 2000 runs):
1) Crawley 30.8
2) Kohli 31.7
Crawley has played 30 innings more than Kohli. Moreover he opens the batting & has a SR of 66 in this period owing to his aggressive bazball style of play... This show how pathetic Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... That too he bats @ #4 position which is where the best batter in a test side bats... Sharma's poor form in tests has been in last 14 innings, but Kohli has been totally $hit in tests for 5 long years... Don't think any other player has got a rope of 5 years in spite of being in poor form...
The majority of the audience likely wouldn’t watch Test matches without those two players, as viewership plays a crucial role in the sport
Should rohit retire from the test format , yes . But should virat retire , no ! Because senior players not only contribute the team with their batting but also with their experience and guidance . Our batting order already has a lot of youngsters like jaiswal , gill and Nitish Kumar reddy. during this transition , team should release their seniors one by one not as a pack as it would create a big hole to fill which will create a lot of pressure on youngsters . And i still feel that virat had 2-3 years of good cricket left in him so ideally i would continue virat unless he performs really bad .
Virat: A player who we lost in CoVid. After started playing without crowd and not winning ICC Cups, IPL cup, ruthless youngsters made him weak. Now he is trying to bring back fire by nusance in his behaviour. Anyhow, let us see if it works. On the otherhand.
Rohit: I think whatever Cricket by JB covered is more than enough.
U guys are doing great
Nobody is talking about Pant not getting runs, has scored less than Virat in the same amount of innings and has an average of 20.7.Apart from the 1st innings in Perth hasn't looked in flow.
Rohit should be dropped, Virat can play one more WTC
You are right about Jadeja, but i think Axar is a like to like replacement and should be groomed now.
Isn't he 30+?
Gndjal
No need.... Why you should replace a ICC no 1 all rounder test... And he is in form also
I heard Bairstow once say that in T20s whether you are in form or no doesn't matter. If it's your day, then you will score if it's not then you won't. Seems like Rohit Sharma and Kohli with their attacking mindset are simply waiting for their days. Playing every format as if it's a T20 match and wishing to end it in a hurry as if there is somewhere better they could be in, is not sustainable.
You might have a good knock once in a while but eventually your luck will run out. I think Kohli still to a degree showed decent discipline in the last innings in leaving the balls and frustrating the Australian attack but Rohit Sharma not playing defensively was very very disappointing.
I have cheered for the way Rohit Sharma bats in ODIs but deep inside even I realize that as you age, technical flaws will show and hand eye coordination will worsen. And while this mode of putting every ball for a six or boundary might be entertaining, if it's not your day then it can cost you an entire series or tournament.
Players need to learn the difference between attacking and slogging, you punish the bad balls and defend the good ones. You build your innings around singles and doubles. As the old adage goes, singles lead to doubles and doubles to boundaries. It might not be the most entertaining bit but it sure will give us comfortable wins.
Just an opinion tho^
This series is going to end with a lot questions than answers. I think one more retirement will be announced soon
This is the respect you are giving to the palyers who is the backbone to our Indian team. Until Bangladesh series Rohit did well right, why don't you wait for him to decide. He knows he is struggling currently but let him decide. He is a selfless player, at least wait for his words. Don't poke him with your impatient words. See the Australians how they are backing there players, Indians want Australia mentality but don't support their players like them.
I've always wondered would they have continued playing test & one day formats had India won WTC in 2021/2023 & 2023 resp.
If Virat & Rohit Retires From Test Cricket, What's India's Playing 11 :
Yashasvi Jaiswal
KL Rahul
Shubhman Gill
____________
Rishabh Pant ( wk )
____________
Ravindra Jadeja
Washington Sundar
Nitish Kumar Reddy
Aakash Deep
Jasprit Bumrah ( C )
Mohammad Siraj / Mohammad Shami / Prasiddh Krishna / Harshit Rana.
Name Replacement Of Virat & Rohit..
No.4 gill
No.3 Abhimanyu Easwaran or padikkal
Sarfaraz Khan can take a spot
Dhruv jurel has solid temperament
He can play at no 4
I think Virat will not retire until he gets to 10,000 runs.
The question who is going to replace virat kohli if he retire i mean we could not find pujara replacement and we are here to drop virat which quiet 50 -50 situation right now .rohit looking really miserably when it come test captaincy honesty speaking in home test series against England it was jadeja , ashwin who save us in bowling and jai swal , gill and Sarfaraz. i don't know wtf give idea about non sense intent to rohit i mean good in home track but not sena country . I feel make captain to bumrah or kl rahul
Both virat and rohit failed to show average consistency since 2020.
They had 3/4 years to improve and bring back consistency.
Now its endgame even hardcore fans are saying them to retire.
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Apart from the batting, I'm also concerned about bowling... because just in case Bumrah is injured and Shami recovering from injury who is going to be your three fast bowlers. And also variety in pace bowling isn't there like we had in the past with the pace quartet of Bumrah, Shami, Ishant and Umesh.
Jaiswal
Rahul
Sudarshan
Patidar
Sarfaraz(WK)
Nitish
Axar
Jadeja
Shami
Bumrah
Harshit
For those people who are saying Rohit should retire but not VK-
Both should retire after BGT. Rohit had fantastic last 5 years in Test cricket while VK was clearly struggling. Now Rohit's form is worst. Looks like he cannot even last one ball whereas bowlers have a plan to bowl to VK. Both are liabilities for the team.
padikkal needs to do well in domestic circuit consistently maybe. I feel there is no good replacement for virat kholi currently. KL has done well opening so opening is sorted for sometime I guess
Eshwaran was a good choice but selection team is keeping him away
@Kushagra-n2b He is an opener right and also he didn't do well during India A vs Australia A. That could be possible reason for not playing him.
Sai Sudarshan good be good option if they can take him to England.
@@shaileshb5327 but he is like Rahane can control the collapse and start hitting later on , see his 1 st class stats
@@Kushagra-n2b ohhh this is what india currently India needs. Stability and someone we can depend upon
@@Kushagra-n2bEswaran had a great chance to make it to the 11, but I saw his batting on Aus pitches. It was just horrible, poor and he didn't looked ready for it, atleast for SENA conditions.
I have also been seeing the problems like everyone else, but I have different opinions. Let me list them down here.
1- Virat Kohli, despite being in the later part of his career, is one of the fittest guys in the camp currently. So his situation is very similar to that of Jaddu, as described in the video. Talking of the form, yes he has had a tough time, but you would usually want to pick him not JUST for pressure absorbing, but also for the huge number of bowlers, pitches and weathers he has faced. With that experience, you must also understand that the more matches a player has under his belt, the better understanding he has of the game itself as a whole. If you leave his dramas of the fourth BGT test aside, he brings a lot of smartness and good understanding of the game with him, just like Jasprit Bumrah
2- Rohit Sharma's case is one which I think has been very harshly dealt with. First of all, he's 37, not 38, so he has a ray of hope to play one more WTC cycle if he wishes to. Secondly, he has scored consistently until the NZ home series this year. Even in the NZ series he had a half century which he couldn't continue because he unfortunately played the ball onto his stumps. So technically, he hasn't had the run scoring issue which Virat has had. He has a rough "patch" rather than tough outings for a very long time.
3- Talking of Rohit's captaincy, firstly, it could be possible that his "rough patch" might have affected him mentally as well, in my humble opinion. But if you look beyond this, till the NZ series, one would still have regarded him as one the best red ball captains at the moment. The NZ series sweep was a result of repetitive batting collapses which, judging after watching the matches and dismissals again, couldn't have been controlled by him as captain. Moreover, I think that it is natural human tendency that when you are a spectator watching things not go as expected, we start to find out loopholes. The same is happening with Rohit's captaincy. I feel that the coach has a hand in the kind of captaincy we have seen since the NZ series. Rohit Sharma is the captain who put India on the top across formats swiftly after becoming captain, and he was the one who took us to the WTC 2023 final. So a big thing to look at might just be the coach instead of the captain. The captain is the same person as he was then.
Can't agree more. But I have a slight different connotation regarding this. As time approaches India has to settle down with a new captain for the rest of the series and WTC cycle. And Jaspreet Bumrah as a captain, has shown promising results, although the sample size is not that big. Rahul also have succeeded in his captaincy stints. I rather would like to see Rohit plays without the burden of captaincy and bring out the best of him. At least he should be given with a chance.
@@AshokKumar-xi6uc see, i would say that captaincy is not a burden. he has been captaining in all formats for the last couple of years. like i said, till the nz home series, there were no problems with his captaincy as well as batting. and like i said, rohit is 37, so he can definitely push for another wtc cycle ONLY IF HE WISHES TO. bcci will definitely back him if he thinks of continuing red ball. i suspect that his sudden dip is influenced by the coach, because earlier, he was all fine. the captain is not the only person making the decisions, the coach also sends messages. yes, bumrah and kl have been great captains in the small sample size, i do not deny it. but i simply argue that his captaincy has never caused him problems, we have seen this for the past 2 years. i suspect the coach for it, his thought processes etc.
but i am glad that you agree with most part of what i say
@@VelocityViper-f7l Oh yes! I certainly agree with this as well. I believe Rohit has plenty of more to contribute with. And you interestingly have pointed out the coach factor. I mean, yeah under GG, the team doesn't look settled down.
Now, idk whether this has any cure tbh.
I disagree with your last point about captaincy. He is a great white ball captain but the mindset doesn't work in tests, specially the matches which ain't played on dust bowls.
His captaincy showed glimpses of defensive mindset, white ball field sets, poor bowling changes, not reading the pulse of test cricket. And these things are not about 1 or 2 odd sessions, these are there to see since a long time now whenever our ace bowlers don't get wkts in their first spell.
Also, his fitness is not upto the mark to wrestle against his growing age... reflexes are getting too slow to be considered an opener in SENA conditions.
I see Rohit retiring after this series clearly
@@malamsingh1944 you actually did not get what i talked about. yes, he is one of the greatest white ball captains, at least in the last 2-3 years. but he has been an all format captain for about 2 years. he is the exact same captain who took on indian tes team captaincy and put india on the top of the leaderboard. he is the captain with whom we reached wtc final in 2023. what i want to point out is that the coach is what is driving these field placements and defensive mindset. till the bangladesh test series, and most part of nz series, he was the same as he was earlier. the coach must have caused the problems, with his batting as well as captaincy. every time you see a collapse in last few tests, it has happened in a group. so we see a hint of unwanted change which was not there before "GG era" and the team was doing just fine.
And i will disagree on your point of Rohit's fitness. he is super fit, only thing is that he doesn't look like he is fit. if you'll go to team india's coaches and physios, they will tell you that he is as fit as Virat. and what you said about reflexes, that is just a rumour started by critics to justify rohit's retirement. reflexes do not start to fail at the age of 37. at the age of 45-50, yes, but 37 is not the age when that thing happens.
Virat no chance not even in dreams,you cannot virat kohli ❤🔥 he is the man
Bring rajat patidar or padikal in place of kohli & sai Sudarshan, in place of rohit
Kids talking about letting go of the King and the Hitman .... This has come down to this... And replace them with who... Shubham Gill and Jaiswal... I mean they're gonna be great in a couple of yrs ...but it ain't time... and Kohli has a score to settle so that he could be amongst the great test batters of all time
ha bhai tu hi jaanta sab kuch, baaki toh gawar hai na
Alright so u want the team to keep giving chances to Rohit and Kohli despite of their lackluster performance rather than giving opportunities to young lads to develope their game. Bro both Kohli and Rohit have became deadweight for our team and it's high time we let these two depart for good.
Both Rohit and Kohli should take retirement from Test only. Keep playing ODIs.
Video was better than the previous one, discussion was to the point. All the best for future videos :)
😅not virat i guess
Averaging 30 in the last 4 years
Worst by any top order, Rohit looks clueless and you still want them to play 😢
Putting Virat in same bucket as rohit is stupi
Kohli has been totally $hit in tests in last 5 years
Only average not shit
I think they should be dropped if India doesn't qualify for the WTC final. It makes no sense to carry them into the next cycle. Bumrah should be our Test captain and Rishabh Pant should be Vice captain going forward
Wtf. Virat scored a hundred in this series itself. What's wrong with people?
Rohit and Virat are not the same just because of their similar ages
They should both be selfless and retire. They are both clearly out of form and by the time they get back into form it would be retirement age anyway. Bumrah who is on fire does a great job as captain and his form would inspire the players. You want a captain who has positive energy on his side and not negative which is what Sharma has because of his bad form. It is costing India wins.
I think Rohit Sharma should leave red ball cricket, he has nothing to prove there anyways and he can focus entirely on India’s ODI campaign.
Kohli, as someone mentioned below should try and play some county, even if he decides to skip the IPL for one or two years.
But I guess, I’m preaching to the choir.
Also there is a fact that ..the job of a openers is to make the new ball old ur best batsmen at no4 should not play or make play new ball or make him play ball which is too old
Ishan Kishan should be slot in no 4 position instead of VK when he retires....
Better batsmen in the team? Let's wait for Gill to blossom! None of them are consistent. Gambhir and Rohit are not performing at all. Throughout this series we are seeing batting collapse.
Echo your views. Bumrah for captain, bring in the youngsters.. they can't be any worse than Sharma and Kohli. But Kohli and Sharma sell tickets and are of commercial value.
Also, "Itself" count - 6 😅
Virat needs 217 runs to come back to form!
Virat is not as bad as Rohit of course
Blind fanboy, he's averaging 31 in last 5 years over 66 innings... Open ur eyes...
Brother we r taking about current form😂😂
I am a Rohit fangirl, it doesn't make me happy to say this
I don't agree, Both of them should retire on their own terms.... They shld play for India not only IPL 😂
Kohli is not going to retire, pretty sure with his contemporaries Smith, Root and Williamson still going strong in the red ball game so he'll be keen on leaving his mark also he is close to 10,000 runs in tests so he's definitely not retiring anytime soon also he's younger than Rohit. But looking at his form, there's no doubt he should be dropped, asked to play domestic and earn his way back into the squad, but that will take some balls from the selectors and I don't see it happening. But coming to Rohit, he seems to be done, he should retire irrespective of the outcome of this series, thanks for your contributions but it's time to move on
Not virat but rohit should
Rohit is finished tbh. He was never a good test batsman barring 2/3 series awful in overseas as well avgs lesser than Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Virat should be given rope till next England series. He looked so good in Perth and today. More of mental block than technical.
You retire as a hero or play long enough to be forcefully retired 😅
Kohli looked good today but rohit really disappointed me 😢
Virat should retire, not because of poor farm but because of the shame he is bringing to the game.
you are a shame
Yes Both should be gone for good.
Virat thinks he's Konstats
Yes it seems possibly they also dont believe they will be dropped so they dont subconciously have that drive enough as they know their place is never gonna go in the squad leading to less competitiveness and more ego possibly, if theyre dropped they can become better but they are old now
Not Virat yet but Rohit for sure!
Make kl open and after virat may be they might make play shubman at no 4 and at no 3 may be sarfaraz or any other...but surely shubman gonna play at no 4
Yep india should drop rohit sharma who scores most runs & centuries for wtc cycles jusy basic of 2-3 bad series for sure he should get dropped & god of cricket virat kohli should be backed even he isn't consistent from last 3-4 years but still he should get backed in basic of 1 good innings because he is key factor for team
I am just baffled at the fact that how many people back virat just because he played ok in this match. He has abyssal in the last four years . In fact i would drop him first before rohith but rohith needs to be dropped from captaincy immediately. Kohli needs to go period
Infact Kohli has a hunger to improve, and he almost did that today. After that run out he lost it for a while and that's it, it was enough for Boland to nick him off.
But talking about Rohit, he certainly the first man to be dropped from this team. He is a liability for team since he landed in Australia.
Rohit first moved to 6, then dropped Gill to push KL at 3 and himself opened just to play the most ugliest pull with slow reflexes.
If I had to drop one guy from this team, easily it would be Rohit.
For the future, Virat had to stay with the team considering his age, fitness, hunger and experience to help the captain. Rohit just doesn't deserve to play red ball game now
someone finally said it...😅
Bro virat has an avg of 36 in this bgt he is geeting better so wait and watch
I hope they both could shut everyone's mouth but now it looks like that's not gonna happen any sooner
At least kohli is fighting. But rohit!!?
For Rohit, his motappa and his age both caught him up. His body moves to the shot quite late. And kind of horrible series he is having its only justified he leaves himself after the series and hands it over to Bumrah. But at least since 2019 he has performed in most of the ocassions. He is the highest run scorer in this WTC cycle for India ig. But Kohli has been absolutely horrible since 2020. I dont know how people believe he is even remotely good and should continue playing. I dont want to know what his avg is, since last 3-4 yrs I have watched most of his innings and he never looked more than a 10-15 run batsman. The only dominant inning of him i can remember is the SA one, rest in almost all 100s it was flat wicket. Even this tour, his two scores came on tracks where there was plenty of runs on offer. If this is the standard of a no. 3/4 batsman that they can only score in flat pitches and not in any difficult wicket then its alarming. If the std of the team is so low that a 20-30 avg is getting accepted just bcoz of name of the player then its alarming. No point of defending him. Both needs to go. I am sure if groomed well Sai Sudarshan etc will do decent. At least better than Kohli doing now
Exactly, i think they should even be dropped from odi , because they are no longer match winners in any format , they are just avg players . If given some one can become better players by the end of the odi cycle or test cycle. It is clear even though if given chances they may fare better but never reach their prime . Because of our disgusting star culture and worship we are killing the prime of many people. Like ruturaj prime is being wasted in odi . Sudarshan purple patch in red ball is being wasted . We might just uncover an other prime sharma or kohli , we will never know because we were busy worshipping our old stars and failed to move on
Btw when were you guys droped from the Indian squad guys, haven't seen you two even in ipl , I think it's high time u guys need to make a comeback into the Indian squad since we seriously lack some once in a generation players🙏🙏
Uhm you are stupid
they are just giving their opinions on the FACT that kohli and rohit are not in good form and they need to be dropped as they are not scoring that many runs which anyone can see , i mean i also like virat and kohli but looking at their current form wtc final is going to be a dream coz they are the senior players they have to score :)
@@kurmapurekha761 you are stupid
See there is never a need for once in a generation talent to win tournament. Just our thought to churn out stats rather than players is the reason for this lackluster performance.
@@abhinavmaharaj4804 true man totally agree with that but i think it’s a bit unfair to target just the senior players for the sake of it when our youngsters haven’t been among tons of runs barring a couple innings . The entire batting unit is to be blamed and not just a few individuals.
If kohli and rohit haven’t scored big so hasn’t pant and gill
we have lost a home , AT HOME!!!!😂😂😂
Virat and rohit should be dropped from all formats
Why from odi?
Not from odi*
It's time for Virat to chill down and throw tantrums outside of the cricket ground. Rohit needs to go as well. We need to groom a new captain for the next cycle. Could GG have played a role in the player's performance in the last few series, as well?
Tum logo ne video banadiye ab dono form me ajayenge 😂😂 Dekhlena
drop rohit bring back gill , make bumrah the captain for the sydney test , siraj / harshit. probably rest siraj and bring harshit and keep the two spinners.
Definitely no to Virat Kohli dude he is looking good for a dady hundered today and give him one more cycle with captaincy and see can he fix this bowling line up and secondly Rohit Sharma it's time to say good bye after champions trophy it would be nice for him and for his reputation Rahul and jaiswal looking great gill should stepup or else sai sudarshan jurel are waiting Virat 4 5 pant and 6 I guess jaddu time is also up he is not having that work in his bowling like before washing and axer ready where are the fast bowlers india needs onther set of fast bowlers like Umesh ishanth shami bhivi where is umran Malik he can be a x factor on foreign pitches
I think,we can win,if we make another 160 runs from here (1.5 session/RR of 4) and keeps AUS under 300(2.5 session more/RR of 4) so,we would have left 1 day and 2 session,lets say 1 day and 1.5 session
and with this,we will have trailed by 450,and then,we have to trust in our batting lineup,so we will have to play with a RR of 3.34,which seems possible
I can see that everyone's blaming both Virat and Rohit for the poor performance. Kindly note that Virat has scored a hundred already in Perth and is looking in good touch by negating the outside off deliveries. On the other hand, Rohit is clueless. So, dropping him would be the right choice instead of dropping both!
The pitch eased out and flat track pounced on the opportunity to statpad
That's one useless century, after that failed in all other 5 innings...
@@abhishekn9871 Name another Indian batter who scored a century besides Jaiswal and Kohli! You'll get none. Total indian batting is collapsing. Go watch cricket properly mate😂
@@JayarahulBJR typical blind Kohli's fanboy you are kiddo... In that 3rd innings, india were already solidly placed @ 270/2 with 300+ lead, even if he had got out for duck India would've easily won the game... All of his 3 test centuries in last 5 years have come like this itself... In other 5 innings, when the situation was much tougher, he has pi$$ed in pants... Since 2020, he has the 2nd worst test avg behind Crawley who opens the batting & plays aggressively due to bazball style of play... Shows how $hitty Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... Still blind fanboys like u are licking his shoes... And one thing, I've been watching cricket even before u were born itself, so don't teach dad how to make babies...
@@JayarahulBJR typical Kohli's brainwashed fanboy you are kiddo... In that 3rd innings, India were already solidly placed @ 270/2 with 300+ lead, so even if he had got out for duck India would've easily won the game... All of his 3 test centuries in last 5 years have come like this itself... In other 5 innings, when the situation was much tougher, he has pi$$ed in pants... Since 2020, he has the 2nd worst test avg behind Crawley who opens the batting & plays aggressively due to bazball style of play... Shows how $hitty Kohli has been as a test batter in last 5 years... Still blind fanboys like u are licking his bo0ts... And one thing, I've been watching cricket even before u were born itself, so don't teach dad how to make babies...
Rohit should hand down the captaincy to Jasprit after this test. Considering his age and his recent form I dont think bcci will still like to keep him in team. Ofc I dont want rohit to face same think virat did in 2022 to be sacked down as cap. And as a ICT fan I hope if there is even something left in both Rohit and Virat pls let it out by next match or its farewell . At least Virat looked good in this series with 1 Hundred and in 1st innings of Melbourne test if Rohit didnt perform its bye bye bye. Anyways lets go for the win its too early to give up.
Bumrah cant captain every match because he is your fast bowler and also plays all 3 formats. If Bumrah needs to captain test team in every match, he should offload his other format matches. Being your main bowler and playing every match can be difficult and just one injury can worsen the situation.
@valt5751 For that BCCI needs to grom a youngster to pass the captaincy (maybe gill)
@@prathamesshhh Maybe Bumrah can play test and T20 and should play very less ODI. He should be playing very less one of the format to avoid injury. He looks good aggressive test captain
Rohit has to go he was never a good red ball batter and captain. He must retire after 4th match for sake of bgt
Ig not virat if he somehow score one 50 he'll play eng tour and ig that'll be his last.
Who will be the captain if Rohit retires.
Jasprit bumrah hai na
Ha bhai tu he toh hai BCCI ka president. Tere bolne se Rohit and Virat ko drop kardenge
i had huge respect for both of them but they have to go. both have to go
bhai 2nd inning me kohli century marega ,,,,,,,,2nd inning k bad fir aunga comments me aur india ye test jitega
bhai rohit ka to man sakte ha, virat to yar form me aah rah ha
Yeah i agree. They should retire after the end of BGT. With the next Wtc cycle it's time to give opportunities to the youngsters. Also virat should focus only on Odis since it's his best format
Chokli has statpadded so much its insane
Motu sharma should be kicked out asap