Is Bismarck Still Bad in 2024? (World of Warships Legends)
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From the mist, a shape, a ship, is taking form
And the silence of the sea is about to drift into a storm
Sign of power, show of force
Raise the anchor, battleship's plotting its course
Pride of a nation, a beast made of steel
Bismarck in motion, king of the ocean
He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
Two thousand men, and fifty thousand tons of steel
Set the course for the Atlantic with the Allies on their heel
Firepower, firefight
Battle Stations, keep the targets steady in sight
Into formation, the hunt has begun
Death and damnation, the fleet is coming
He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
At the bottom of the ocean, the depths of the abyss
They are bound by iron and blood
The flagship of the navy, the terror of the seas
His guns have gone silent at last
Pride of a nation, a beast made of steel
Bismarck in motion, king of the ocean
He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine❤❤❤
Absolutely beautiful touch with sabaton in the intro!! Love hearing those guns going off in the video, such a satisfying sound.
I figure I may as well give the Bismarck fans a little olive branch
Very appropriate and won't go unnoticed!
Bismarck is my most played ship but as I unlock more and more ships I am starting to realize that Bismarck is nowhere near the best at the tier.
Omaha is most played ship.
If it wasn’t for the chonky super structure she would at least be Tanky and somewhat worth playing
@@AnthonyD4005 Yeah, I could accept underwhelming guns and firework secondaires if the thing could just take a hit but it's so easy to burn down, especially in the HE spam-heavy meta.
i have read the book of memories from one of the artillery commanders, who managed to survive. He mentioned words from one of the electrics, who controlled different machinery and electric systems on the opposite side of the ship, which was bombarded by Rodney and other ships. Until he heard evacuation signal, he claimed the situation on his side as fine, everything worked as it should. But when he came out and saw what left……..😮
This is why Bismarck was deleted as soon as humanly possible. Mf was gonna chew the Atlantic fleets to shreds if it got loose.
If by Atlantic fleets you mean shipping and their escorts, yes. Keep her original mission in mind.
@@Dogwatern00b well now. Major history buff here. Idk why you felt compelled to leave that as a comment. Like, the only mission the entire kriegsmarine ever really had was to disrupt allied supply chains... So duhh
Holy pretension batman @@froddy32623
@@froddy32623 Others may not be. Others may be inclined to research things based on healthy discussion in the comments. If I were to be condescending I would have given you a full lesson. Have a good day sir. 🫡
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I think you came up with something without realizing it....duhh....imagine a battleship called the Duhh.....that's what this game needs, ships with really silly names like Duhh or Drippe (the "e" is silent)
Well done froddy.
We'll done indeed.
Bismarck is good when you build into main gun damage and pen angles. I hold the belief that its secondaries are mainly fireworks, get up close, chunk and drive by anything that’s close. I’ve done 190k in the Bismarck and consistently push 100k. Perhaps not the greatest ship in game but it’s not terrible.
Great vid Spartan, thanks! Enjoyed every second, you truly were on fire!
Someone stepped up their intro game..
I dig it!
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Oooo... musical intro! I actually double checked to see if I had clicked the right video 😉
Also, if shooting octopi out of the guns isn't a mod at some point, missed opportunity.
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Love the song to start at the beginning. And Spartan... We are gunna need to have a word about Bismarck, XD.
By the way, could I ask what your build for Bismarck, is it still Hyde? I use Von Hipper with New Jersey and Andrew Cunningham. Run Cannonier, Drillbits, Marksmanship, Proper, and Will to Rebuild for a HUGE boost to your heals. I guarantee, you will notice a difference, and I will openly challenge your build to a 1v1 if I am wrong!!!
Have yourself a great day as always!!!
I actually like the German battleships. Really enjoyed this video thanks spartan!
Nice music and game.
I like this series of videos, keep up the good work😁
I think the Bismarck has been fine for awhile now. I think it's often a misplayed ship (no big surprise there) and subject to hyperbole when described. I'll have more on that in a N.Y. minute.
It's got very good armor. And despite the hyperbole out there, the secondaries are effective and not just a fireworks show, it's fast, the main guns are quite capable of causing a variety of damage onto a chosen target.
And yes the superstructure is a weakness but here's the thing....
The Iowa and Kansas superstructures are also quite visible and very vulnerable to focused farming so let's dispose of the Confirmation Bias shall we? It's fallacious reasoning.
The Bismarck isn't for everyone which is fine. Play styles, critical thinking and ship preferences vary from player to player and with it are ships that will work and others that will not.
We can mostly agree that the American battleships are generally the best in a this game, particularly at Tier 7 because the tier is positively saturated with them (Iowa, Alabama, Massachusetts, Georgia, Kansas, Constellation, Missouri & AL New Jersey) that's 8 ships representing one nation at Tier 7...no competing nation comes close at the Tier.
I've zero doubt that we will see Wisconsin, but that's just me.
And those ships will generally reward a player with a common cookie cutter commander build. They're simple to play because the expectations are often a promise that will be kept which is comforting and intoxicating.
That's also incredibly boring at times. It's a good thing we have variety to attract different players with different tastes, preferences, etc. It's healthy to challenge one's mind and comfort zones.
Is the Bismarck for everyone?
Nope. Spartan demonstrates that truth when a video is made regarding a German battleship in most cases, though there are a few exceptions. They're not her thing as a general rule which is fine.
Yet Spartan gets a Kraken in the Bismarck...the irony is difficult to miss. 😜
Where the stars and stripes shine is where Spartan comes to dine...
It's a daunting task to become equally good in all battleships, unless you're Metajerk of course, whom I suspect is a cyborg, but I digress. My investigation team is working on that story as I speak.
As for me, I like the Bismarck very much it's a classic brawler that requires a player to handle the ship wisely with a nod to its strengths and a responsible understanding to its limitations.
Having said all of that, I enjoyed the intro to this video. It was unexpected, yet creative and refreshing. I think Spartan is on to something, but that's just me..
I'd like to see Spartan take the Hood out into a match and present the old girl in an updated video.
Spartan?
What say you!?
Lol
Wisconsin just got announced for pc so we’ll see the ship eventually
@@Slattatronnn
THAT ship and another one I'm looking forward to is the Illinois...because it's rather unique...think American Petropavlovsk.
The Rhode Island which just came out on PC on Jan 10th is another ship that I'm looking forward to, it's like a Tier 7 or 8 Florida with a much better base reload of 24 seconds.
LOL Bismarck suck ass .
This ship was good back in 2021, now it’s just an old ship with no precision and not enough tanky (Kutuzov and HE spammers will eat you Pretty quick).
Back in the days i used to deal 120k damage with it but now making 50k seems like a miracle, dev must do something!!
if the bismarck had the actual ww2 accuracy then it would have shredded other ships like nothing. moreover secondaries just spitting fire here-and-there. Also despite being attacked by all the royal navy she stood her stand for hours and fighting back, royal navy struggled to sink this one ship. They got know that why that german shiffe was called BISMARCK. Bismarck, Yamato & Iowa are just legends. In real life no ship could match their power.
Oh, a Bismarck video right before AL Bismarck drops in the next update. Nice.
(Also, I play Azur Lane, so I recognized those shadows immediately: Cheshire, Rossiya (Soyuz sister ship), Zara and Bismarck)
Thanks Spartan
Great intro. Knew the song from the get go. Great game too.
The most frustrating thing is that the guns are so inaccurate. The shots landing before and behind the enemy at the same time but doesn't hit where they should. But good armour tho.
Great song and video. Love this band. GG
Hey Spartan! May I ask what your commander/upgrades build is? I'm using a full seconary one both for the ship perks and the commander (ciliax), but seeing both that 18km range and higher hp pool makes me curious.
Hyde with haruna and hipper
I use Hide with Hipper and Cunningham on Bismarck
I was a Bismarck fanboy until I actually got the ship, and then I regretted it
Love the intro spartan
Beautiful video and intro Spartan. I love running the Bismarck and the B version since I got them. I run full accuracy on normal Bismarck and full secondaries on B and it works fine.
I love Bismarck and you do him dirty like that damn😂❤
Also thanks to the person that gave me membership ❤❤
Great intro
Great Intro
Sparty, rockin in the Sabaton. Like some of the first T7 TT BBs she seems a bit power crept, I've had plenty of good games, plenty of duds, so inconsistent, seems to be the best description. I have a soft spot for her as she was my first tier 7 BB that I ground out and after the Noisycow at T6, she seems way better at first than she is. Great game! Thanks for sharing.
I have to say with ciliax as a captain and hipper and al bismarck as Inspirations its honestly insane how accurate the secondaries got like i really enjoy this ship and even with al bismarck as captain and hipper and hernandez as inspiration its honestly insane too love it. Main guns still suck tho but hey if they behave u have alot and i mean alot of fun
What a great and totally fitting intro
I don’t think you’ll be copyright claimed as Sabaton have said anyone is allowed to use their music in their stuff as long as they are credited and don’t make money off of it
Already have but atheist it only sharing revenue
I fkn love brawling in the Bismarck. One of my favorites tbh. No go on ranged combat.
My build for Bismarck and Zieten is just dumb enough that it works. I use Franz Von Hipper using Flammable Cannonier, Knight Spirit, On Second Though, and Reaching Out XXL and WTR for the extra HP gained per heal. I also use De Revel and Ding Ruchang as inspirations. I build for full reload and use the Epic Reload Modification. It's disgusting when you do enough damage. You get a sub 20 second reload, and people just don't expect it and you usually end up blapping people.
loved that intro haha
I got it with 20 sec reload and 16.4 km range its pretty dope with its secs aswell
people think im bias for loving thar ship i love it because how powerful it is and because of the song And also i dev struck a massachusets with it RIP
The terror of the seas !!!!
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine !!!!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Bismarck by Sabaton nice intro bro
You cant deny that the Bismarck was a beast of a ship.
Of course not the Bismarck in real life was a solid Battleship she took a pounding before she eventually succumbed to her wounds unlike the battlecruiser HMS Hood which was the song almost immediately by Bismarck penetrating her magazine
Nice vid Spartan, but someone has been pulling your chain, we DO NOT call it the Im-place-able.
Even us British call it Imp- lack-able.
I love their music. And I love my Bismarck(#1battleship)
Any ship is good if its played the right way.. I just end up playing them all wrong lol..
nice opening :D
I get what you mean about not getting along with a ship. It's the same for me with Iowa. I can pull good games in Kansas, Georgia, Alabama, and Massachusetts no problems but Iowa is pain for me. Love the theme so far with these types of vids.
I think Iowa use to be a lot better. I don't know what they did but accuracy, Iowa's one thing since the speed is no nerfed in accuracy builds, seems to be worse than it was. I prefer any of the South-Dakotas or Kansas, though I will play Iowa on occasion.
kinda dig the intro spartan. Looks/sounds freaking cool. cheesy yeah, but yeah sabaton that's a good one to go with
YEA SABATON WOOOOOOOO LETS GO SPARTAN!!!!! TO LEAD THE WAR MACHINE
Once people figured out you could just AP its superstructure and chunk damage it to death, it became a lesser feared ship.
Would you be able to make a video on the brandenburg
This is one of the funniest video commentaries I have watched on the channel😂
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Hey Spartan if I just got Tirpitz is Bismarck still worth picking up even if it can be pain sometimes lol.
I mean for most it's mostly a collection type of thing but personally tirpitz is better
I think she is worth picking up as no doubloon cost.
How’s Odin in 2024?
Funny cause in the end all the real Bismarck felt was pain and suffering when it left port.
Bismark is the perfect ship for new players in the game to make a start (there are also nicely balanced bb to help new players to learn how to play like: Vladivostok(my love she has insane armor and helps to learn how to angle without getting not a single penetration nice heal and fast cooldown damagecon (you would probably put Iowa in her place but trust me vlad is the one)) Iowa (I found her amazing and she would be better if she would have a bit higher turning circle cause she is a heavy battlecruiser) and third what else from the Italian bb Roma(she just have a smoke that's enough for new players to get out from rough situations) (you would probably expect me to say a Japanese or a German battlecruiser ship but not today😂). To close Bismark is worth learn the basic mechanics of the game, because she has good amount of fire power, survivability, agility and secondaries also she could be pretty good for both brawling and sniping
Noice
Historically speaking, I always say this with gollum’s voice when I play German ww2 Aircraft Carrier “Nazi’s! Nazi’s with Wings!” Also, emoji idea, “What’s Taters Precious?”
Good video Spartan. That Monarch player was clueless and that's my favorite ship. That's not how to play it.
True story
Bismarck is solid but the superstructure pretty much defeats the whole purpose of having good armour
People always say Bismarck was a bad battleship (IRL) because he only sank one ship and then got sunk. However people forget or just don’t know that he sank the good, most powerful mid war battlecruiser, the pride of the Royal Navy. No wonder he was sank, think of it. Sinking the pride of one of the biggest navy’s in the world, every ship, every battleship assigned to sink the killer of HMS hood. Bismarck was truly marvellous engineering. Plus, it’s a beautifying ship to gander at. Not as beautiful as hood though in my totally not bias British opinion…
It was a sub-par design. Yes, we're going to be pedantic about this because there's so much BS promulgated about both the ship and the Battle of Denmark Straight. The British were perfectly aware of Hood's deficiencies. They did cancel the other three of the Admiral-class for very good reason. Pre-Jutland designs. Bismarck was based on the L20csomething design the Germans were working on near the end of the war. That was refined into the Bismarck-class because that's what the Germans had. They had no experience building capital ships since 1916. Bismarck and Hood shared VERY similar armor layouts. Hood had better turret armor and arguably better torpedo defense. It's pretty much a wash otherwise. Bismarck had more modern gunnery control. Who hits first tends to win these engagements. Adm. Holland was very aware of what he was up against, but everything that could go wrong pretty much did. The rest is history--if you bother to research it.
@@davefinfrock3324 ok
Bismarck was a decent ship at the time that could definitely hold its own but it's main guns were somewhat mediocre compared to what everyone else was feilding or about to field at the time. Even the older Colorado-class outgunned Bismarck although the latter had an advantage in ROF. I think there is a tendency to somewhat romanticize the Bismarck.
@@177SCmaro oh yeah deffo. I’m not a nerd/buff with how they were developed and designed but I just enjoy the Bismarcks design among others
@@captainwarhead5626 not a bad looking ship, fs
As a brit implacable is placket not place. Whoever told you otherwise was winding you up. As a brit would say.
As an American I feel kinda left out that no one wrote a song about Iowa, or, hell, especially Enterprise and her 20 freaking battle stars. lol
I've never been impressed with Bismack in the game, both playing the ship and playing against the ship. I think the problem is the Bismarck so just...eh? You build into main guns and you're underwhelmed by eight 15in guns with crap penetration at t7. You build into secondaries and the problem is...eh? The secondiaries put on a good show but struggle to hit anything. You think, "well, at least I'm tanky and have good armor" and then the survivability is so just....eh? Granted, it's not the armor's fault, it's the fact that the freaking super structure seems to never get saturated so it doesn't matter if the armor is good.
I also kind of agree that Bismarck, historically, tends to be overstated, at least by a lot of people in the comments. Bismarck was a tough ship and pretty fast but, even at the time of it's launch, it's firepower was nothing all that spectacular. The Americans, for example, had older battleships with twelve 14in guns. Colorado had eight 16in guns. Some of the British ships also had 16in guns. And, god help the Bismarck, Yamato was right around the corner with nine 18.1 in guns.
In a straight up slugging match Bismack could hold its own but was at a disadvantage to many of the battleships of it's time or those that were about to join the war. "King of the ocean" might just be overstating the matter a tad.
Please don't crucify me Sabaton fans.
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😂😂😂😂love the begining and this video should be called REVENGE OF THE BISMARCK
We Brits say Implacable the same way you do. Etymologically, it’s from the same root as placate, please, and has no relation to place, hence the lack of an e.
I used to run Bismarck with the yellow gun turrets too but it’s been pretty thoroughly debunked as inaccurate now, so I take him (German innit) out in his traditional camo. I agree he’s inconsistent but whenever there’s a ‘get 300 secondary hits’ mission’, Bismarck is my go-to. I should research Schlieffen.
I hope the kraken made your night worth it!
Spartan: i am going to showcase this ship when its forgotten and not fo- citadel cused down in the 1st few minutes...😂😂😂
Hey Spartan luv ur vids. saw you the other day filming this video. sorry I did 16k w my shokaku to you within the first 3 mins I promise it wasn’t personal
😄 just one of the many carriers that made me hate Bismarck that night
Its a beautiful ship and it would have been very deadly with some support. Obviously if you send out a battleship no matter how armored it is with only a single cruiser escort and then have said escort peel off after pissing off the entire British Navy it is not going to last too much longer.
Spartan a wise man once said: death smiles at us all. All we can do is smile back.
That song is amazing!
when you get a chance to both side WWII, you have to take it
Give em hell Spartan.
should i grind for bismarck?
I love Bismarck she was my first tier 7 battleship and while I’ll admit she’s not for everyone she has remained a favorite of mine over the years
Surprised you didn't have Sink the Bismark with one of the matches you got focus fired on lol...personally prefer Bismark B as well but that's just me
My first tier 7 battleship.
Still old reliable for a good game but I agree the AA is godly shite
In all fairness I much prefer Tirpitz given its torps
Don't have Brandenburg so I can't give my opinion
Odin and the battle cruiser seems great on paper but it just constantly inconsistent
Anhalt is a interesting not bad but interesting
My only recommendation is getting Tirpitz using Hide and learning to cope with a full brawler build and learning when to push correctly
What camo is that? I have the B version but rarely take her out. I prefer the Tirpitz as at least she has torps for close quarters action. Shame both iconic ships are meh in the game. Does not do them historic justice as they were capable of obliterating anything in their time and were legendary accurate.
I believe the historic camo, I bought it for 750 doubloons in store way back. Not sure if you can use paint to install.
Thanks..have the Hood one but didn’t know about this one!
Nobody
Literally Nobody
*Incoming British*
Me(Commander Of Bismarck):*Whistles*
"Actung! Actung! Incoming! All hands zattlestations! (Lol)
Spartan you music levels are way to high. It's distorted. And you need to fade the music out nit just clip it. If you are going to add things to your videos make sure you do them right. It makes your videos appear cheap in production value
Of course it is! It doesn’t ricochet torpedos!
The Bismarck does seem to possessed solid reliable endurance and armor and her armor piercing capabilities are great when they work but that's just it my experience with the Bismarck and game is her guns simply are not accurate at any distance except under five kilometers I don't know if that was a conscious decision on wargaming part or not but it is infuriating because the battleship Bismarck in real life had Precision artillery to the best of their advantage I mean they sank the battlecruiser HMS Hood almost effortless and under 30 minutes
Hello guy's! It's a shame how this ship perform in this game. In WW2 it was one of the strongest Ship's. 😢
I want see a gameplay with tirpitz
I'm grinding for the bismarck rn. Swear if I hate it when I finally get it I'm gonna be real sad.
Give it a chance everyone has different tastes in ships despite this ship trolling me with the worst luck I really enjoy the Bismarck b
I’m angry and I like the Bizzy!!!… although I agree with where you’re coming from. It can be painful in a lot of games that are matched wrong… but when it’s played aggressively on a good game, it’s super rewarding
At some point they may very well do a recurring and fix the Bismarck dispersion and accuracy but there is something about I line up perfectly symmetrical shots and I would say I only make about 40% of them less for a full Citadel the ships just not a good long-range brawler despite having 15-inch guns in game it's almost as if wargaming wants to engender you to use the Bismarck at practically Point Blank Range which historically speaking would have been consistent with her design Origins from the first world war like the Bavarian class series of dreadnoughts but bismarck's a World War II era design she was certainly capable of hurling salvos at a distance which the battle cruiser HMS Hood found that out the hard way when Bismarck penetrated her magazines
@@TheDogGeneral not that I disagree, but ALL German BB's have a dispersion issue with rather underwhelming firepower. would need to address more than just the Bizzy.
@@theredwind I mean I agree I just feel like you know the Bismarck was pretty much the premium Mercedes-Benz of battleships that Germany had sought to build and actually completed her and her sister ship Turpin LOL as I call her it just seems like kind of like with the Iowa where wargaming deliberately reduced her top speed to 30.9% of her traditional 3334 it's something that inhibits her gameplay and most people that I know that play World of Warships progress through one Tech Tree and that's it I mean it's nice if you have lots of free time on your hands and you can go through all the different nations Tech trees but my American Tech Tree practically maxed out German and British practically maxed out but that's me I do I don't have a lot of the other nation states maxed out and I just kind of feel like if you invest all that time into a tier 7 capital ship she should be pretty decisive those people that opted for the Bismarck instead of the Iowa or the Vanguard are left with a disappointing ship I prefer the Kansas to the Iowa personally because she's a more traditional Dreadnought she has a heavier broadside and is more resilient and firefights though the Iowa's precision and range or greater it just seems like poor bisco here got the short end of the stick
The Jonny Horton version is more your style, maybe even public domain
It was 100% the ship that sunk the hood.
I said Bismarck last video
It's funny because bismarck is my most played ship but I have bismarck b and it's fantastic great game spartan 😎
I also don't understand having a ship solely designed for secondaries. And bitch the whole game that your main guns are not as accurate as ships that are built for accuracy. That makes no sense to me. If you want the Bismarks main guns to be more accurate then forgo the secondary build. I don't think the Bismark is a kite around the edge of the map firing at ships 15 plus km away from you. The Bismark is a up in your face call out the red team for a toe to toe fight kinda ship. So if that's not your game style. Don't play the Bismark. It's like DDs that open fire on BS out in open water. Why. What on earth do you think your 3 or 4 127s or less are going to do vs you being spotted and focused. It some ship require a certain way to play them. No matter their class
At least the Bismarck's in-game AA is historically accurate.
I don't mind Bismarck, personally I find the German BBs to be generally fun. But I get that "cursed ship" feeling so much. For me it's the North Carolina. I just have the worst games in that ship every single time. Some ships do be like that sometimes.
Yussss🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hey Spartan, how about playing the new Azur Lane Bismarck as soon at it's out there with the new commander?
I have heard, you like playing that monster of steel. ;D
Bad ship!? 😂
And you are speeding like cruisers,,maneuver like DDs and killing almost ever one in that game getting a Karkan😮 ? Interesting match ❤
German bbs have more drag to its shell trajectory
I play the Bismarck often, she is
-Tanky
-Fast and Maneuverbility for a BB
-Sonar
BAD
-UNconsistend Main guns..Man the 🎉...
-Not much range with Main Guns
- Dispersion is Bad.
-I always get my Rudeer jammed😂 like the real one 😅
But i must say Friedrich der große is really worse than the Bismarck 😅
historically, i love the bismarck, visually, i love it, but i game, playing it? i dont even know where to start...
Sabaton!
Ohh God this ship... if Bismarck was tier 6 it still wouldn't be the best ship at the tier.
Will we get Italian music intro when you do Italian ship videos?😂
Lol no I only did this to extend an olive branch to all the Bismarck fanboys as I was about to troll the crap outta them.. using copyrighted music eats into my revenue and is a not good for me
Bismarck 100% best boat in game
I named my German Shepherd Bismarck. Not a lot of people know the meaning of his name.
“I would be better off if I could get on the deck, pull out a Glock and shoot at the planes. Maybe just pick up something on the deck and wing it at the plane”
I never laughed so hard 😂💀
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