A cooler way to have Jean overpower Quicksilver was to have a scene where Quicksilver beats her easily but then the scene rewinds back before he beats her showing that Jean was reading his mind the entire time and predicts his moves to beat him. Not this shit where she waves her arm faster than Quicksilver himself. Fuck.
@@cammy0621 Yeahhhh but cinematically, it’d still visually be appealing and would make more sense than Jean just happening to have better reaction time than Quicksilver.
LOL funniest comment but so true. I guess the producers forgot storm ability for manipulating and conjuring a variety of weather manifestations and just made her into some kind of weak version of Raiden from Mortal kombat
in fairness, she's stronger by herself. She's heavily limiting herself by fighting w/ a team so even if she makes thunderstorms or hailstorms, she's more likely to hurt her allies than a singular enemy. though it would be kinda cool ig if she could significantly drop the temperature and like freeze ppl or whatever ig
1. Even though she used her weather powers it wouldn’t work because Jean already had the Dark Phoenix in her, which exceedingly overpowers them. 2. They are not fighting an offensive fight, is a defensive battle against their teammate which is having a mental breakdown. In this case why should Storm use a powerful attack against her (note that by this point they haven’t actually fought her, so they don’t know she is THAT powerful). 3. Professor X might have talked to them since Scott has feelings for Jean. Probably if Scott wasn’t there, maybe Charles would have used a more offensive approach since he felt the Dark Phoenix’s powers, but since Scott was there, he was respecting his loved one. Overall, he is a leader and cares even more about their emotions because he reads their minds and thoughts.
@@breakfastonuranus No, it was not. Gods can move in relaitve time which means they do not need any time to do something. That is (and many other things) always overlooked in fight sceens vs mortals otherwise they would lose in an instant. If anything this scene is accurate.
@@ginoportugal9203 she doesnt need to see quicksilver.. she can just focus on lifting him from the ground or.. make an area of effect telekinetic lift around herself...so many things she can do without the need to visually seeing QS
Apocalypse made me love quicksilver. People said Apocalypse was an okay movie, but since my fist exposure to it was the quicksilver scene, I thought it was fucking awesome. You are literaly not joking when you said that.
They actually did one to make it a two-film story but Fox insisted one on film, they were convinced Sophie Turner would make it better than The Last Stand. But......they promoted it with the "X-Women" scene.
They shouldn’t have made it in the first place, christ we were literally introduced with this new Jean one movie ago and they immediately jumped to dark Phoenix right after?🤦♂️
@@graddeos I agree with you, but i think it would take more than that. I am not sure about this, but i think that in the MCU, the Phoenix Force just doesn't exist, and to introduce it in the multiverse, we need the X-Men, as Scott is the reason why Jean succeeds in returning from the Dark Phoenix...
Don't get me wrong. I like quick silver too and honestly believe he should have been given more screentime but how can you expect someone with the speed of light to overpower a cosmic primordial entity?
@@SpFlash1523 I bet the actors were constantly like "Are you sure that was a good take Simon? Should I just go for one more.." and he firmly reassures them "NAH IT'S FINE. MOVING ON." And then they sit down and look at the playback and go "Oh dear god.."
@@marcusduck True. Plus, they were forced to re-shoot the entire third act because it was "too similar" to Captain Marvel. By that point, the actors probably didn't care anymore.
When Hank says - “I’ve got the shot, I’m taking it.” That’s a throwback to when Scott said it, the same line in the first Xmen movie when they were fighting magneto at the Statue of Liberty. “I have a shot and I’m taking it.”
@@master-of-mind5881 Did IMDB get that from the people who worked on the movie? If not, it could just be speculation. Also, I don’t think I deserved to be called a fool for just stating an inoffensive opinion, but ok.
I hope if they ever do bring the X-Men into the MCU, they give the dark phoenix saga a 6-8 episode disney+ show so they can really give it the space to do it right. This story can't be told in a single movie
Dude, they didn't tell the saga in a single movie. This was suppose to be the first film of a Dark Phoenix Saga trilogy and Marvel apparently isn't doing a reboot.
There are so many other X-Men stories, let's cut our losses and leave the Dark Phoenix Saga behind. It's not worth trying it over and over again when we have so many other options.
Missed opportunity to have Storm and Jean go at it or at least try to reason with her. Would’ve been cool if they copied their fight from the TAS, scene: Storm flies up and is face to face with Jean. Storm: “Jean I’m sorry, but I can’t let you hurt any more people.” Jean: sternly “Ororo”. Next Storm summons a cloud ☁️ of lightning 🌩 and three bolts hit Jean. Jean absorbs the bolts and throws back at Storm sending her flying down to ground.
@@KingShibenah it’s such a great story and the animated show proves it can be done correctly. We just get braindead directors to do it instead of people who actually care about the media
The scene is badass, my only gripe is with Charles not being able to do so much more with the ability of mind control. I feel he´s underpowered in the same way Quicksilver is overpowered. But maybe I am missing something.
I’m sorry but I know for a fact Jean could not have taken QS out this quick. For one, The dude is a fast healer. Secondly, gene would have to be able to react faster then the speed of thought to take him out. She has never shown feats of moving or reacting that quick. In fact, in the comic speedsters are a weakness for her. She only can stop them using telepathy since it’s mental. He should of been moving faster than her hand was being waved.
Yeah thats true, but when you have Omega lvl powers like hers, the potential for plot armor is enormous. You can simply say that she knows what QS is going to do before he even starts and has alrdy taken countermeasures.
@@graddeos right! So if they leaned more into the telepathy then I could believe it. Charles should of been having a telepathic battle with her while QS took her out.
@@shawnburgess9870 Charles cant match her in a telepathic battle when Phoenix force is activated. She might not be in full phoenix force in this scene, but its active as it can be seen on the markings in her head
This fight is all Jean Grey alone. No Phoenix i think. Look how minimal the damages are while fighting The X men. Because if it is the Phoenix, The ground will Crumble, those thousands of Neighborhoods will Obliterate with jean just standing. I think They are not fighting the Phoenix Force here. It's just jean grey with her Powers.
@@crashbandacoot that's all Jean grey resisting the Phoenix from going all out. If that's the phoenix her eyes will glow and her Hair will levitate. Like the one when she fought the aliens.
This film was basically Jean just in a bad mood and no established split persona difference between her and Phoenix. Because that had been phoenix fighting it would of been a giant fire avatar enveloping Jean, earthquakes, dark skies and etc
@@samparrish4870 it’s not the comics it might not work like that in the films that was the phoenix they would not have called it dark phoenix if that was the case
As a huge fan of both the Phoenix & Dark Phoneix Sagas, this movie did put in a better effort than The Last Stand even though i loved Famke Janssen as Jean Grey, i actually thought Sophie Turner actually delivered a solid performance and did a great job but in all honesty, i still have to go with the 90s cartoon as they not only stayed near enough true to the comics but it was much better executed.
This is such a forced unneccesary conflict. There is no reason for Jean to be THIS angry, at least based on the story they were telling. So a father disowns you because of your powers and because everyone decided it was better to tell you they were dead somehow they are no longer your friends. Also somehow the police show up at this exact moment and for the first and only time the sound of sirens is overwhelming. So Jean crushes the entire car instead of, oh I don't know, turning the sirens off. This is a classic case of absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@punkzx2608 what do you mean by better exactly? And I call bullshit on Jean’s ability to somehow move her hand faster than quicksilver himself. I know jean is extremely powerful, but unfortunately superspeed isn’t one of her powers.
@@punkzx2608 yeah but it’s a pretty lame way to take Quicksilver out of combat. Producers always find the most bullshit ways to take Speedsters out of action.
No matter how powerful storm is, we all know she ain't no match for Phoenix. But in this instant, where Jean isn't full on Phoneix and clearly doesn't kno the extent of her power or how to exactly control it or what's even goin on, she clearly doesn't want to fight her teammates, this was the time to show out storm to her potential but still end up losing by the end of it. There's no way storm should have been taken out so easily here by Jean at this point of the movie. She shoulda done more than just hurl puny lightning bolt from her hand cuz besides Jean.... storm is the 2nd most powerful on the team imo. As soon as Jean flung her backwards, storm shoulda stopped herself in a midflight then simultaneously started hurling lighting at her from the skies and her hands with one of the lightning bolt from the sky striking her, but she blocks the ones from her hands and as she starts flying towards her, she uses her winds as tk and picks up the cop cars tht Jean smashed and started hurling them at her, while calling down hail sickles, lightning and strong ass winds to bash her (she's known for doing multiple things at once), and as she unleashes so much power, we can clearly see tht Jean is some what surprised by the force behind storms attacks and while she's holding storms attacks back, we here her yell in a panic/struggling voice "STOP!" & as soon as she says tht, storm ups the power level on her attacks even more to try and get thru jeans tk cuz she sees her some what struggling. Even tho Jean is suprised by how powerful storm is.... the look we see on her face is the look of her trying to stay in control of her power caused by the attacks storm is throwing at her. Then we here Jean yell "STORM!". Then In a shaky/scared whisper to herself she says "I... I can't control it" and when she says tht, Jean screams unleashing an attack knocking storm clear the fuck out the sky and knocking everybody else down too, including like 2 or 3 houses being demolished...... and tht attack made Jean also fall to the ground from releasing so much power, thus making the surrounding chill for a moment. At tht moment, thats when Mystique should have taken her opportunity to talk to Jean, thus making Jean accidentally killing her. tht way it wouldn't of been completely bullshit and still would have been believable & We still could have saw what storm was capable of while still seeing her lose, like she clearly should. Just my 2 cents... I know everyone has different visions on things but seriously..... they turned storm into a chump in these movies smh I mean even in DOFP, she was the first to die and they were spose to be at the height of their powers and they barely had them put up decent fights..... I get the sentinels could adapt and shit but no way storm woulda been the first to die out of all the characters smh even in this movie they made storm get choked out by a guy whose power is moving his hair smh like come on, seriously lol
@@honestpitch7477 ?? Not too sure what u mean lol.... u saying storm can only do the things I listed in her dark phase?? If thts what ur saying then u might need to pick up a comic.... she's known for lightning, wind, flash freezing and fuckin up people on a daily lol. Nothing I listed was out of the realm of possibility for her and she's known to do countless attacks at once to/try to overwhelm more powerful opponents.... again, I say..... she shouldn't win cuz it's the phoenix lol but at this point of the film.... she could have put up a better fight is all
@Justin DeSue lol I dint say anything about that lol, This movie is displaying how powerful Jean wt Phoenix, main character. What you wrote up there is silly, why would they display Storm like anything you said at all..... Storm is literally nothing compared to Dark Phoenix, that's why they simply dint waste time making irrelevant things you said up there honey. Well if you really wanna be a fanboy/girl that's your problem, you said Storm can do this and that yet Jean as an omega level mutant can simply shut Storm mind anytime she wants lol, or simply snap her neck without much efforts. Storm is only recently confirmed omega level while Jean been the main character of Marvel forever now.
Lol the fact tht u said Jean is the main girl of marvel shows u how much u don't kno marvel at all... outta Jean and storm, everyone knows tht storm has always been more famous than Jean... idc if her phoenix story arch is one of the famous story lines of the x-men.... tht don't make ur marvels girl at all. but thts besides the point. And who cares when storm got upgraded to an Omega lol. Omega is an omega..... regardless when it happened, so tht argument is honestly dumb as shit. If I was a fan girl/boy I woulda said she could beat the Phoenix like some of the other fans of storm lol I clearly said storm would lose like she should. But I'm confused?? ur mad over the fact tht I said storm should have put up a better fight with this version of Jean thts confused and don't really kno what's happening wit her powers and isn't at full power yet? I mean what I said storm could do is somethn possible and she shouldn't of been takin out just cuz Jean threw her backwards lol thts silly. Storm put up a better fight in the comics and animated TV show than this wack ass fight. Also, u do kno storm isn't just an Omega now right..... she's an actual goddess now since she got the "godhood" upgrade in black panther. But again thts besides the point lol she loses like I said she would... but ur butt hurt cuz I said she shoulda put up a better fight than just getting taken out by barely getting thrown backwards.... I'm interested in how u think storm should have been getting choked out and bested by tht black Medusa guy lol seriously.... ur someone who shouldn't even respond to these things if u don't know how to even debate lol but whatever I guess💯💯
@@honestpitch7477 btw.... u must hate the animated series considering tht the main man Stan Lee and everyother writer turned ur so called marvels it girl into a fucking joke who just screamed and passed out every other episode hahahahahha I mean.... even when she first got the Phoenix, they made her pass out, while they constantly showed storm and Rogue to be the powerhouses of the team🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾 facts are facts lol learn them or log off.
Even if he was able to touch Jean his arms would burn into ashes due to Jean Greys body temeature is so high caused by the Phoenix. I mean her body is fulled with cosmic flames that tries to break out
And oh my God, despite her consciousness was confused, Scott was like an anchor for her, and she listened to his voice and saw him so close asking to come back, oh... If the cops had arrived even a minute later, everything could have been different, Raven would have been alive... Unfortunately, it is impossible to overcome Phoenix's instincts, which manifest themselves when any threat approaches (in this case, the cops). My poor my poor guys, how I sympathize with them, they went through so many trials😭
*The Last Stand* Fans: It’s all wrong, the costume was wrong, the split personality was wrong, no shiar and they barely called her Phoenix, no fire Kinberg in 2018: You know what, let’s put her in jeans this time and add aliens .. oh and a firebird for a second at the end
The movie was meant to be a Jean/Phoenix origin story and the first part of a Dark Phoenix Saga trilogy. You have to make a movie about Jean becoming Phoenix before showing the Phoenix in action.
*Production Meeting* Guy: So here’s the issue. Quicksilver is too OP and the effects shots are too expensive for our budget. What can we do? Guy 2: Let’s have some bullshit scene where Jean inexplicably reacts faster than a bullet and moves the thing he’s about to stand on so he gets all his bones broken. Everyone: 👍😎
Ur talking about a studio that made storm lose to a character who has a power of a poisonous toad...... she should have put up a way better fight but fox is shit
@@cronusq thts where ur wrong lol so let me counter ur wrong statement with a statement tht ul also think is wrong hahahaha I personally think she CAN beat JEAN but Phoenix on the other hand........ everyone should no she can't beat phoenix. My argument was at this particular time in the movie where Jean didn't kno what was happening and was scared and didn't wanna fight her teammates, storm could have and should have done better than just throwing a lightning bolt and then get knocked out by getting flung backwards a few feet lol
You know JLAW was done with this character hence why they killed her off, she was prolly ecstatic about that choice, she may even have been responsible for the characters death, who knows!!!...
Charles should have tried first to stop Jean, he should know better than to let the younger X-Men go after her, i mean bloody hell man...they all could have died, along with Raven. I know jean is all powerful but it would have been cool to see a psychic war with jean and Charles. Still a good film. If only they did what the old mcu did with the storyline..the ending with all the xmen, and maybe other marvel characters fighting the Phoenix..idk, would have been a great story,like what they did with Thanos, have all the X-Men films leading up to the dark Phoenix saga. Nothing beats the book though. Claremont and Byrne and (Austin inker) did a great job on he comics.
It feels weird that they chose to do the Dark Phoenix storyline entirely without Wolverine. I mean, I understand why they did it, cuz they would have to “introduce” Wolverine as a permanent character, and flesh out his relationship with Jean over a few movies so it didn’t feel rushed or half-assed. They’d also have to recast Wolverine (and deal with people complaining about the replacement) or bring back Hugh (and deal with people complaining about the age difference between Hugh and Sophie). I fully understand WHY they did it without Wolverine, but it still feels weird.
A cooler way to have Jean overpower Quicksilver was to have a scene where Quicksilver beats her easily but then the scene rewinds back before he beats her showing that Jean was reading his mind the entire time and predicts his moves to beat him. Not this shit where she waves her arm faster than Quicksilver himself. Fuck.
Missed opportunity for sure
That would've been way cooler
but its pretty comic accurate tho, that level of reaction time has been something jean has always had
Yeah that was mega stupid
@@cammy0621 Yeahhhh but cinematically, it’d still visually be appealing and would make more sense than Jean just happening to have better reaction time than Quicksilver.
It's nice to know storm has completely give up making weather and decide to just become a static bolt pikachu
LOL funniest comment but so true. I guess the producers forgot storm ability for manipulating and conjuring a variety of weather manifestations and just made her into some kind of weak version of Raiden from Mortal kombat
Lightning is her most iconic power
in fairness, she's stronger by herself. She's heavily limiting herself by fighting w/ a team so even if she makes thunderstorms or hailstorms, she's more likely to hurt her allies than a singular enemy. though it would be kinda cool ig if she could significantly drop the temperature and like freeze ppl or whatever ig
A young Storm with little control of her ability.
1. Even though she used her weather powers it wouldn’t work because Jean already had the Dark Phoenix in her, which exceedingly overpowers them.
2. They are not fighting an offensive fight, is a defensive battle against their teammate which is having a mental breakdown. In this case why should Storm use a powerful attack against her (note that by this point they haven’t actually fought her, so they don’t know she is THAT powerful).
3. Professor X might have talked to them since Scott has feelings for Jean. Probably if Scott wasn’t there, maybe Charles would have used a more offensive approach since he felt the Dark Phoenix’s powers, but since Scott was there, he was respecting his loved one. Overall, he is a leader and cares even more about their emotions because he reads their minds and thoughts.
They did Quicksilver and Storm so dirty.
Pietro couldn't handle Jean and neither could Storm at this time
QS is faster a million times than her, it was so dumb @@MariaIvoneideFreitasdeBarros
PSIONIC ENERGY are better than speedsters
Get over it
@@breakfastonuranus
@@breakfastonuranus No, it was not. Gods can move in relaitve time which means they do not need any time to do something. That is (and many other things) always overlooked in fight sceens vs mortals otherwise they would lose in an instant. If anything this scene is accurate.
@@Scroll55555Jean operating on the molecular level.
Its disgusting how they just injured quicksilver out of the movie because he was to op
damn bro didnt know yall would be so pressed 3 years later
Its because jean too op
he was too op?💀 jean grey can literally kill him so easily.
jean could not have been able to see quicksilver move since he is faster than a bullet but the scrip made it so she coulkd
@@ginoportugal9203 she doesnt need to see quicksilver.. she can just focus on lifting him from the ground or.. make an area of effect telekinetic lift around herself...so many things she can do without the need to visually seeing QS
Nah he’s no match for Jean don’t get it twisted.
Jean: you told me my father was dead and you used me for my powers
Professor X: Nah not really
what a screenplay
Thats GOT Season 1 level of writing!!
Kinda,sorta
The reason quicksilver was so slow because he was carrying the entire X-men franchises on his back.
Apocalypse made me love quicksilver. People said Apocalypse was an okay movie, but since my fist exposure to it was the quicksilver scene, I thought it was fucking awesome.
You are literaly not joking when you said that.
@@Stxvnsame that movie made me love magneto to, magneto and quicksilver carry the xmen
@@reaperthebot4814 faxx
A story like The Pheonix Saga and Dark Pheonix can only be done justice in a movie with a 2 part epic, 2 and a half hours each.
They actually did one to make it a two-film story but Fox insisted one on film, they were convinced Sophie Turner would make it better than The Last Stand.
But......they promoted it with the "X-Women" scene.
They shouldn’t have made it in the first place, christ we were literally introduced with this new Jean one movie ago and they immediately jumped to dark Phoenix right after?🤦♂️
@@graddeos I agree with you, but i think it would take more than that. I am not sure about this, but i think that in the MCU, the Phoenix Force just doesn't exist, and to introduce it in the multiverse, we need the X-Men, as Scott is the reason why Jean succeeds in returning from the Dark Phoenix...
@@JuanGonzalez-jq1ph well they can still introduce it since they're bringing in cosmic entities
@@florencejohnpaclibar.1b872 Yeah, but the best avatars of the Phoenix were Jean and her daughter, mutants that don't exist in MCU
1:43 me & other people in theatre = woah come on Quicksilver epic 90s song for action.
A few seconds later = WTF !!
2:00 😨 👎
Don't get me wrong. I like quick silver too and honestly believe he should have been given more screentime but how can you expect someone with the speed of light to overpower a cosmic primordial entity?
@@nileverdeen3797 But at least he was supposed to have punched in this scene and given some trouble.
He went out in 20 seconds
@@JovemCanceladoMaybe you should read the fuckin comics before speaking on comic book characters. He wouldn’t be able to land a punch
It’s crazy how they gave us the comic accurate suits at the end of Apocalypse but in this they gave us Pajamas
LMAO
I know. I liked those suits so much better.
Different director
It's like a high budget streaming show.
I was thinking the same, some of the acting feel like it almost straith out of SuperGirl or TheFlash
Gives you an idea about how little faith they had in this project
I like cyclops' visor whatever movie he's in
This one is my favorite
Oakley Life 🏴☠️☠️
Special RayBan exclusive lol
which version original timeline or prequel timeline?
it's like a film student directed this
Ironically, this was the first film that Simon Kinberg directed, so there you go.
@@SpFlash1523 I bet the actors were constantly like "Are you sure that was a good take Simon? Should I just go for one more.." and he firmly reassures them "NAH IT'S FINE. MOVING ON." And then they sit down and look at the playback and go "Oh dear god.."
Exactly lol
I don’t know what the scenes are trying to communicate
@@marcusduck True. Plus, they were forced to re-shoot the entire third act because it was "too similar" to Captain Marvel. By that point, the actors probably didn't care anymore.
When Hank says - “I’ve got the shot, I’m taking it.” That’s a throwback to when Scott said it, the same line in the first Xmen movie when they were fighting magneto at the Statue of Liberty. “I have a shot and I’m taking it.”
Probably just a coincidence
@@BigBoy257 no it’s fact. It’s trivia that even IMDb confirms.
@@BigBoy257 no it’s trivia that even IMDb confirms fool.
@@master-of-mind5881 Did IMDB get that from the people who worked on the movie? If not, it could just be speculation. Also, I don’t think I deserved to be called a fool for just stating an inoffensive opinion, but ok.
"you told me my father was dead..."
xavier : "we should tell her the truth.."
Ha I understood that reference
None of these scene are as epic as the last stand Dark Phoenix. :(
And that’s saying something! Lol
@@armanhammer18 Ya, because Last Stand Phoenix was awful...
Last stand was awful . At least dark pheonix last scene was beautiful
Last Stand Dark Phoenix was like an episode of Super Natural or Charmed. 🤣
@@neoxceptr5824 it was worse than this . Yes
I hope if they ever do bring the X-Men into the MCU, they give the dark phoenix saga a 6-8 episode disney+ show so they can really give it the space to do it right. This story can't be told in a single movie
Dude, they didn't tell the saga in a single movie. This was suppose to be the first film of a Dark Phoenix Saga trilogy and Marvel apparently isn't doing a reboot.
There are so many other X-Men stories, let's cut our losses and leave the Dark Phoenix Saga behind. It's not worth trying it over and over again when we have so many other options.
No, you’d still hate it
And told PROPERLY in that Disney plus series. Not like “Secret Invasion” 🙏💯😂
No, they need to just skip it altogether. We need new X-Men movies that don't involve the Phoenix.
Missed opportunity to have Storm and Jean go at it or at least try to reason with her. Would’ve been cool if they copied their fight from the TAS, scene: Storm flies up and is face to face with Jean. Storm: “Jean I’m sorry, but I can’t let you hurt any more people.” Jean: sternly “Ororo”. Next Storm summons a cloud ☁️ of lightning 🌩 and three bolts hit Jean. Jean absorbs the bolts and throws back at Storm sending her flying down to ground.
Ikr. That would been a cool moment.
but fox, budget issues
well wt a little bit a Phoenix energy that Alien bitch did absorbed her lightning n blast storm back.
Storm would have gotten clapped by Jean. And easily.
@@TonyLeviosa you better be referring to the fox version of storm and only the fox version
This scene always cracks me up lmao
What's with Sophie Turner's erratic head wobbling during every line she says? 😂
Obvious she's on meth amphetamines
The Phoenix Saga needs to be its own 3 film series to be done correctly.
This was meant to be the first part of a trilogy.
Exactly
We need to leave it behind
@@KingShibenah it’s such a great story and the animated show proves it can be done correctly. We just get braindead directors to do it instead of people who actually care about the media
@jayayj5574 you can say the same for the symbiote saga
Even though I love Famke’s portrayal of Jean Grey a lot better, this scene is pretty badass. I really like the music at 1:38.
Do you know the name of the music?
@@nixiean No, I don't. Sorry. You can probably find it on UA-cam.
@@nixiean Frameshift by Hans Zimmer on the time stamp 5:15 and that scene is on 5:50
@@angleo.d Thank you. 😊
@@crostgibson905 Definitely.
the chemistry between jean and scott is so lovely.
no it's not.
no, he's needy and cringe
@@MrLTiger No, Scott gets done dirty.
@@MrLTiger how is he needy ? you okay ? also whats so wrong with needing your partner ? youre weird bro
@@romart03he is a simp.
He is literally begging for Jean to come back to him even though she does not want to
I love how she wants to be left alone, attack her , and then they get mad when she fights back
she attacked the police first
@@Teemo6544fuck the police
@@Teemo6544Fuck the police comin' straight from the underground
A Young n* gga got it bad 'cause I'm brown
@@Teemo6544Because her own father called them first
This film didn't go well since they injured Quicksilver, he's the 70% why i watched this film
Jean Grey's powers are off the charts.
Anyone realize Tye Sheridan (Cyclops) has had two roles where he specifically wears goggles lol, Ready Player One and this. Just funny.
Jean como Fênix Negra é invencível, acaba com geral, muita gente não gostou do filme, mas achei que foi um arraso
MANO, Mercurio se movendo mais rápido que o raio da tempestade se propaga e ela reage tranquilamente
Mas pelo menos um soco era pro mercúrio ter dado nela.
Um arraso de péssimo, com certeza.
@@lincolngomes874 ela tem muita mais reação que ele, e também é mais rápida, tem q ser burra pra achar q Quicksilver é mais rápido que a fenix
Tem br que gosta do fracasso, por isso votam no PT.
After I watched this movie now I think The last stand isnt that bad at all
omaga many scenarios were cut due to Disney's requirements
😂
The scene is badass, my only gripe is with Charles not being able to do so much more with the ability of mind control. I feel he´s underpowered in the same way Quicksilver is overpowered. But maybe I am missing something.
Jean once she became an adult was more powerful then the professor and with the dark phoenix its impossible for him to challenge her
Indeed Charles is powerful. However, Dark Phoenix is like Boros in Mortal Kombat, there’s no way to overpower her.
A jet just landed in middle of neighborhood without clearance, and no one bats an eye. Top class writing 101 😂
Totally unrealistic compared to the very real X-Men.
I’m sorry but I know for a fact Jean could not have taken QS out this quick. For one, The dude is a fast healer. Secondly, gene would have to be able to react faster then the speed of thought to take him out. She has never shown feats of moving or reacting that quick. In fact, in the comic speedsters are a weakness for her. She only can stop them using telepathy since it’s mental. He should of been moving faster than her hand was being waved.
Yeah thats true, but when you have Omega lvl powers like hers, the potential for plot armor is enormous. You can simply say that she knows what QS is going to do before he even starts and has alrdy taken countermeasures.
he still has to think, and she is a telepath.
@@graddeos right! So if they leaned more into the telepathy then I could believe it. Charles should of been having a telepathic battle with her while QS took her out.
@@doggowar I get that, but télékinésies is what stopped him not telepathy. That’s why I said he shouldn’t of been taken out
@@shawnburgess9870 Charles cant match her in a telepathic battle when Phoenix force is activated. She might not be in full phoenix force in this scene, but its active as it can be seen on the markings in her head
They nerfed my boy quicksilver badly
Hes her teamate she knows his skill set and she could have resd his mind and knew his plan
He's just silver now.
This fight is all Jean Grey alone. No Phoenix i think. Look how minimal the damages are while fighting The X men. Because if it is the Phoenix, The ground will Crumble, those thousands of Neighborhoods will Obliterate with jean just standing. I think They are not fighting the Phoenix Force here. It's just jean grey with her Powers.
No, from the eyes it is visible that it is the phoenix! Even the way she suddenly attacks machines, it's a phoenix that's still growing, but it's her
@@crashbandacoot that's all Jean grey resisting the Phoenix from going all out. If that's the phoenix her eyes will glow and her Hair will levitate. Like the one when she fought the aliens.
@@blinkycosmo2158 It glowed because it was the phoenix at full power! As that alien says, her power increased.
This film was basically Jean just in a bad mood and no established split persona difference between her and Phoenix. Because that had been phoenix fighting it would of been a giant fire avatar enveloping Jean, earthquakes, dark skies and etc
@@samparrish4870 it’s not the comics it might not work like that in the films that was the phoenix they would not have called it dark phoenix if that was the case
The fight scenes in this movie were pretty damn good.
It sucked lol
@@I-speak-U-shut-it wow you have convinced me lol
People can hate but the film did have good fight scenes
@@I-speak-U-shut-itwhat do you think is a good fight scene then
Ridiculous that this was the best they could do with this franchise and cast, unbelievable.
The funny part is that there are people who came up with better ideas for how this fight could go in the comment section LOL
1:55 She literally looks like my cousin whenever she's serious. That's dope. Also that's a cold shot.
As a huge fan of both the Phoenix & Dark Phoneix Sagas, this movie did put in a better effort than The Last Stand even though i loved Famke Janssen as Jean Grey, i actually thought Sophie Turner actually delivered a solid performance and did a great job but in all honesty, i still have to go with the 90s cartoon as they not only stayed near enough true to the comics but it was much better executed.
Peter be like *I think jean is now my sister in law lol
This is such a forced unneccesary conflict. There is no reason for Jean to be THIS angry, at least based on the story they were telling. So a father disowns you because of your powers and because everyone decided it was better to tell you they were dead somehow they are no longer your friends. Also somehow the police show up at this exact moment and for the first and only time the sound of sirens is overwhelming. So Jean crushes the entire car instead of, oh I don't know, turning the sirens off. This is a classic case of absolute power corrupts absolutely.
It was just an excuse to make another film most likely!
Jean had PTSD. PTSD patient CAN get that angry when their emotions are suppressed for a very long time like Jean's was.
Me: Can't they just talk it over coffee?
Director: No, it had to be a SEAL team op complete with X uniforms
0:24 Sophie's accent slipped here.
I heard it 😂
1:38 EPIC 🙌
Her reaction time is so lovely
That's a nice comment/observation.
I have one question : how are people okay with Superman overpowering the entire justice league but not this .
Same question honestly
Because nobody cares about this shit.
@@Dracogame obviously people do
@@Dracogame why? Because jean is female?
Fans complaining about anything not MCU
Quicksilver vs. Jean Grey looks a lot like The Flash vs. Superman.
Quicksilver scene was very awsome 💯
hans zimmer really put all his zimmerussy into the score
Funny how the two marvel movies he joined r two of the worst(but his music is still the best in those)
@disi it’s not one of the worst but still a mess, there’re so many subplots in it cuz Sony can’t keep their hands off the director’s vision
So y’all in the replies wanna ignore the zimmerussy part
I came here to comment this, "The movie might've been shit, but the soundtracks were *chef's kiss*
@@DragonQueenThalatte ngl the score kinda made it bearable and the fight scenes actually became a little more interesting
Why do people hate this movie
I enjoy every scene
Did Mystique seriously thought she could defeat jean with the power of friendship 😂
Not with that sorry excuse of a budget makeup lmao
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She knows she couldn't, she was just trying to help Jean
People forget that The Phoenix is a god compared to Quicksilver, Storm and even Charles. That’s canon.
What about Nightcrawler? He did better than Quicksilver, that's bullshit
@@punkzx2608 what do you mean by better exactly? And I call bullshit on Jean’s ability to somehow move her hand faster than quicksilver himself. I know jean is extremely powerful, but unfortunately superspeed isn’t one of her powers.
@@milonga_ Nightcrawler managed to grab jean and tackled her into a house while Quicksilver couldn’t even reach her
@@punkzx2608 yeah but it’s a pretty lame way to take Quicksilver out of combat. Producers always find the most bullshit ways to take Speedsters out of action.
Storm definitely has god-like theatrics, I’ll give her credit for that.
Turner struggled with the accent. It was painful.
No matter how powerful storm is, we all know she ain't no match for Phoenix. But in this instant, where Jean isn't full on Phoneix and clearly doesn't kno the extent of her power or how to exactly control it or what's even goin on, she clearly doesn't want to fight her teammates, this was the time to show out storm to her potential but still end up losing by the end of it. There's no way storm should have been taken out so easily here by Jean at this point of the movie. She shoulda done more than just hurl puny lightning bolt from her hand cuz besides Jean.... storm is the 2nd most powerful on the team imo. As soon as Jean flung her backwards, storm shoulda stopped herself in a midflight then simultaneously started hurling lighting at her from the skies and her hands with one of the lightning bolt from the sky striking her, but she blocks the ones from her hands and as she starts flying towards her, she uses her winds as tk and picks up the cop cars tht Jean smashed and started hurling them at her, while calling down hail sickles, lightning and strong ass winds to bash her (she's known for doing multiple things at once), and as she unleashes so much power, we can clearly see tht Jean is some what surprised by the force behind storms attacks and while she's holding storms attacks back, we here her yell in a panic/struggling voice "STOP!" & as soon as she says tht, storm ups the power level on her attacks even more to try and get thru jeans tk cuz she sees her some what struggling. Even tho Jean is suprised by how powerful storm is.... the look we see on her face is the look of her trying to stay in control of her power caused by the attacks storm is throwing at her. Then we here Jean yell "STORM!". Then In a shaky/scared whisper to herself she says "I... I can't control it" and when she says tht, Jean screams unleashing an attack knocking storm clear the fuck out the sky and knocking everybody else down too, including like 2 or 3 houses being demolished...... and tht attack made Jean also fall to the ground from releasing so much power, thus making the surrounding chill for a moment. At tht moment, thats when Mystique should have taken her opportunity to talk to Jean, thus making Jean accidentally killing her. tht way it wouldn't of been completely bullshit and still would have been believable & We still could have saw what storm was capable of while still seeing her lose, like she clearly should. Just my 2 cents... I know everyone has different visions on things but seriously..... they turned storm into a chump in these movies smh I mean even in DOFP, she was the first to die and they were spose to be at the height of their powers and they barely had them put up decent fights..... I get the sentinels could adapt and shit but no way storm woulda been the first to die out of all the characters smh even in this movie they made storm get choked out by a guy whose power is moving his hair smh like come on, seriously lol
this is not Dark storm to display what She can do lol but nice try.
@@honestpitch7477 ?? Not too sure what u mean lol.... u saying storm can only do the things I listed in her dark phase?? If thts what ur saying then u might need to pick up a comic.... she's known for lightning, wind, flash freezing and fuckin up people on a daily lol. Nothing I listed was out of the realm of possibility for her and she's known to do countless attacks at once to/try to overwhelm more powerful opponents.... again, I say..... she shouldn't win cuz it's the phoenix lol but at this point of the film.... she could have put up a better fight is all
@Justin DeSue lol I dint say anything about that lol, This movie is displaying how powerful Jean wt Phoenix, main character. What you wrote up there is silly, why would they display Storm like anything you said at all..... Storm is literally nothing compared to Dark Phoenix, that's why they simply dint waste time making irrelevant things you said up there honey. Well if you really wanna be a fanboy/girl that's your problem, you said Storm can do this and that yet Jean as an omega level mutant can simply shut Storm mind anytime she wants lol, or simply snap her neck without much efforts. Storm is only recently confirmed omega level while Jean been the main character of Marvel forever now.
Lol the fact tht u said Jean is the main girl of marvel shows u how much u don't kno marvel at all... outta Jean and storm, everyone knows tht storm has always been more famous than Jean... idc if her phoenix story arch is one of the famous story lines of the x-men.... tht don't make ur marvels girl at all. but thts besides the point. And who cares when storm got upgraded to an Omega lol. Omega is an omega..... regardless when it happened, so tht argument is honestly dumb as shit. If I was a fan girl/boy I woulda said she could beat the Phoenix like some of the other fans of storm lol I clearly said storm would lose like she should. But I'm confused?? ur mad over the fact tht I said storm should have put up a better fight with this version of Jean thts confused and don't really kno what's happening wit her powers and isn't at full power yet? I mean what I said storm could do is somethn possible and she shouldn't of been takin out just cuz Jean threw her backwards lol thts silly. Storm put up a better fight in the comics and animated TV show than this wack ass fight. Also, u do kno storm isn't just an Omega now right..... she's an actual goddess now since she got the "godhood" upgrade in black panther. But again thts besides the point lol she loses like I said she would... but ur butt hurt cuz I said she shoulda put up a better fight than just getting taken out by barely getting thrown backwards.... I'm interested in how u think storm should have been getting choked out and bested by tht black Medusa guy lol seriously.... ur someone who shouldn't even respond to these things if u don't know how to even debate lol but whatever I guess💯💯
@@honestpitch7477 btw.... u must hate the animated series considering tht the main man Stan Lee and everyother writer turned ur so called marvels it girl into a fucking joke who just screamed and passed out every other episode hahahahahha I mean.... even when she first got the Phoenix, they made her pass out, while they constantly showed storm and Rogue to be the powerhouses of the team🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾 facts are facts lol learn them or log off.
This GOT all over again...
Love the jackets
man i love how QS speed was nerfed
he was a blur even in extreme slow motion in the previous movies bruh
Even if he was able to touch Jean his arms would burn into ashes due to Jean Greys body temeature is so high caused by the Phoenix. I mean her body is fulled with cosmic flames that tries to break out
idk Kurt touched her just fine @@matyoytstudio7840
And oh my God, despite her consciousness was confused, Scott was like an anchor for her, and she listened to his voice and saw him so close asking to come back, oh... If the cops had arrived even a minute later, everything could have been different, Raven would have been alive... Unfortunately, it is impossible to overcome Phoenix's instincts, which manifest themselves when any threat approaches (in this case, the cops). My poor my poor guys, how I sympathize with them, they went through so many trials😭
They did Quicksilver dirty🤦🏾♂️
like this?
And did anyone notice Scott knocking Ororo down to stop her from shooting? Amazing...
Exactly like Hank knocking down Erik when Erik was going to shoot Raven in Days of Future Past. I love X-Men for parallels of scenes so much❤
1:45 I thought there's awesome song for QuickSilver to shows up
The Jean Gray of X-Men 3 would have evaporated them all
I almost walked out during the train scene
😂
The way he beat quicksilver was my fav❤
Jean Grey is 🔥
She was able to keep up with quicksilver. That's impressive.
The amazing Hans Zimmer score wasted on such a joke of a movie.
You told me I’d always have a house Charles and now look, it’s all torn up…..you lied to me 😂
*The Last Stand*
Fans: It’s all wrong, the costume was wrong, the split personality was wrong, no shiar and they barely called her Phoenix, no fire
Kinberg in 2018: You know what, let’s put her in jeans this time and add aliens .. oh and a firebird for a second at the end
The movie was meant to be a Jean/Phoenix origin story and the first part of a Dark Phoenix Saga trilogy. You have to make a movie about Jean becoming Phoenix before showing the Phoenix in action.
Hands down the best scene in the series
I'm gonna say something positive: I love the suits
*Production Meeting*
Guy: So here’s the issue. Quicksilver is too OP and the effects shots are too expensive for our budget. What can we do?
Guy 2: Let’s have some bullshit scene where Jean inexplicably reacts faster than a bullet and moves the thing he’s about to stand on so he gets all his bones broken.
Everyone: 👍😎
Dark Phoenix literally gives all of that theres nothing Quicksilver can do
They should've had a cooler way to beat him though but budget ig
man they just gotta nerf quicksilver everytime
"We only want to take you home."
Oh but you had time to get uniformed up. Word.
For me this movie is much better than last stand.
Definitely no
LOL u trippin and the prequel cast has no chemistry.
I find “Last Stand” more entertaining than this!
This scene looked 100x better in Xmen last stand made 12 years before this
Uh, the X-Men never fought Phoenix in the Last Stand. So what "scene" are you talking about? 😆
@@agentofchaos7456 try searching for the scene they will visit Jean's home to convince her
This movie feels so lifeless
The Way she Flies man!!!
This reminded me of the justice league movie and how they did Wonder Woman storm should’ve put up a better fight
Ur talking about a studio that made storm lose to a character who has a power of a poisonous toad...... she should have put up a way better fight but fox is shit
@@justindesue9512 Exactly not to mention she was also struggling to fight a male Medusa like cmon🤚🏾
i do agree that storm is always nerfed by an insane amount but she doesn't stand a chance against jean
@@cronusq thts where ur wrong lol so let me counter ur wrong statement with a statement tht ul also think is wrong hahahaha I personally think she CAN beat JEAN but Phoenix on the other hand........ everyone should no she can't beat phoenix. My argument was at this particular time in the movie where Jean didn't kno what was happening and was scared and didn't wanna fight her teammates, storm could have and should have done better than just throwing a lightning bolt and then get knocked out by getting flung backwards a few feet lol
@@justindesue9512 base jean is still insanely strong, especially in the comics
That music though... 😤😤
Too bad they had no ideea what to do with Quicksilver.
this dialogue is like a no jumper podcast
The thing with this movie is the fx are Acctually amazing but it's the most meh movie ever made
People say we are overreacting
She hit our fav character quicksilver 😳
OF COURSE WE ARE OVERREACTING
Why can't they just use Jim Lee's costume designs?
Professor x looking mighty dope in that chair
Até hoje fico arrepiado com o reflexo do Mercurio
Rewatched it yesterday and actually love it now lol
You know JLAW was done with this character hence why they killed her off, she was prolly ecstatic about that choice, she may even have been responsible for the characters death, who knows!!!...
As meh as this movie was, the slo-mo shot of jean coming out of the house was pretty cool
Pure honesty, Sophie can't act.
None of them except James and peters can act
@@breakfastonuranusyes they can
Thank - you .
Quicksilver: Im the most op😎
Marvel: No your not
Quicksilver:Why?
Marvel: Because we said so peasant
Marvel : Because plot armor, son
Bruh, they had some banger uniforms at the end of Apocalypse only to give us these for this movie...
Quicksilver just had one cool scene in this movie
Their first mistake was putting her in mom clothes instead of the Phoenix outfit.
First mistake was casting someone who can't act.
@@sweaspurdoddd5466 🤣
She wasn't Phoenix yet.
Oscar nominee Kodi Smit-McPhee.
They did Quicksilver dirty. Being a speedster is too op I guess.
can you please upload the scene where Charles finally admits that he was wrong about lying to Jean?
Charles should have tried first to stop Jean, he should know better than to let the younger X-Men go after her, i mean bloody hell man...they all could have died, along with Raven. I know jean is all powerful but it would have been cool to see a psychic war with jean and Charles. Still a good film. If only they did what the old mcu did with the storyline..the ending with all the xmen, and maybe other marvel characters fighting the Phoenix..idk, would have been a great story,like what they did with Thanos, have all the X-Men films leading up to the dark Phoenix saga. Nothing beats the book though. Claremont and Byrne and (Austin inker) did a great job on he comics.
The visual effects were cheap. Where her pick energy? And flames from the Phoenix?
It feels weird that they chose to do the Dark Phoenix storyline entirely without Wolverine. I mean, I understand why they did it, cuz they would have to “introduce” Wolverine as a permanent character, and flesh out his relationship with Jean over a few movies so it didn’t feel rushed or half-assed. They’d also have to recast Wolverine (and deal with people complaining about the replacement) or bring back Hugh (and deal with people complaining about the age difference between Hugh and Sophie).
I fully understand WHY they did it without Wolverine, but it still feels weird.
Wolverine didn't really have that much of a role in the original story.