It’s basically how many times a ball can go through the pitching machine. Just playing catch, a baseball would last probably 50,000+ throws and catches
agreed, the pitching machine is doing all the damage. Some of the coloration change may be the dye from the leather of the gloves, but all of the damage is from the pitching machine IMO
Probably a million times.. a ball going through a pitching machine easily wears it out more than 100 throws. When a ball it thrown the damage would be hitting the glove.. with the pitching machine.. it’s torn up when the wheels grab it.
When you had the broken baseball and were making it fly in weird ways it reminded me of something. When I go golf I like to find cracked golf balls and tee off with them cause they take the weirdest flight paths. It's so entertaining to see a ball curve four different directions in one drive.
I had a ball that I literally used for years because it had a bunch of cuts and dips in it that made it move crazy like that one. If you threw it righ over the top it would have some insane movement. Sadly the cover came off and it had to be retired
Great video. It was both entertaining and really informative. Ironically, my son and I were just talking today about how long a baseball night last since we segregate our warm up/catching balls from our batting practice balls. I now have an idea that our catching balls will out live me. 😅 Batting balls may be a different story.
I like the video and I don't mean to nitpick but as others have said, the pitching machine has the most impact on the condition of the ball by a long shot. I think it would not only make for a better video but also be more comfortable for you guys producing it, had you done a small number of throws everyday(100 or less) over the span of years. It could also be a cool way to record moments of your life over the span of a few years or however long it takes. If you're up for it, I'm sure your audience would be interested.
same apprently happens to bownlign balls and the handicap bowling ball ramp from things ive done in life, peaople wouldent care if battowed the bowlingball they perswonaly owned, but would be like woa woa only one or two rolls on the bowling ball ramp, becuase it "Destoys the ball".
Playing catch is a lot different than feeding a ball thru a machine. Those tires eat balls up. I bet a baseball would last over a million throws in a normal game of catch
If you just throw a ball back and forth like a game of catch between regular humans, 1 baseball should last for your entire baseball throwing life. I have played catch with 50, 60, and 70 year old baseballs. They are quite durable. Hitting them with bats is what really kills them. Throwing and catching them doesn't cause much damage.
I feel like this showed the ware n tare of a ball through a pitching machine more than from it being caught. A ball you're playing catch with at 70mph is not going to have that same ware as a ball thru a machine 500 times. I definitely don't blame you for using the machines, tho. 10k throws in a 4 hour span is definitely not good for the Ole arm. It was cool to see what it did to the gloves and how they were broken in as the experiment continued. Nice vid! Never expect anything less from the guys at momentum!! Always have entertaining vids, and you don't have to ride on the back of Trevor and Sim's trash talk back n forth. In all honesty, a channel with just those two doing random competitions would be hilarious to watch. Like just walking down the street and challenging who can get someone to honk first or do mini golf, go karts, arcade games, etc. You name it, and their competitiveness will always make for great content. I'd watch every video put out of theirs if they made it. Keep on killin it, guys! And Kevin too lol!!!!
be neat to see if you can get more movement in pitches with a wore out ball like that . like differences in pitches with different levels of worn out balls
16:40 I'm thinking that the cover on the ball flipping around is causing a distraction for your eyes, making it harder to catch. The ball isn't moving that much compared to some sliders, etc.
ngl, growing up I played with many a ball that looked like the one at the end all the iterations in between. makes me nostalgic for those days. good stuff.
Towards the end of that ball's lifespan, it looked like Trevor and Tosh were trying to catch Tim Wakefield knuckleballs with all the weird ways the ball was spinning.
Batting glove (with padding on fingers. I love the current Franklin that Jose Abreu and Gary Sanchez Jr are using) under your mitt. Your fingers will last forever. I tell you that in exchange for you and your boy Clev signing with the Cubs next year
As a kid who abused baseballs by throwing them against a cement wall with a white square painted on it I had an opposite result. The leather would start getting torn and scuffed as well as the seams. Would end up being like loose cowhide
Should have used a Champro Kevlar Stitched Baseball designed for pitching machines. I bet you'd still be doing it. Nice video, but you forgot the final glove review.
You can tell that the ball is definitely affected because the speed clock behind Trevor is displaying unpredictable numbers the more the ball wears down! Example. 64.9 mph on one throw and 70.2 on the next! Then it became predictable again after 6000 to 7000!
I have a baseball that I've used for catch for probably 18 years now? Granted this ball is only used for catch, ranging from 30 - 90 mph depending on who I am playing catch with. When I was playing competitively as a pitcher we switched balls every few innings just cause of the damage a bat would do. That said, I actually preferred the worked in balls as a pitcher because new balls could be tough on the fingers with how pronounced the seams were.
Hire “interns” and have them repeat the 12000 throws manually. Plus I think the catch speed would be 20 miles per hour slower. Zero damage at 12k would be my guess
It’s basically how many times a ball can go through the pitching machine. Just playing catch, a baseball would last probably 50,000+ throws and catches
Yeah you just can’t test that because arms can’t handle that
agreed, the pitching machine is doing all the damage. Some of the coloration change may be the dye from the leather of the gloves, but all of the damage is from the pitching machine IMO
If it was broken up over a couple videos with a few players it would be possible to get a better idea of how a ball changes.
Agreed. I can think of balls that have been through BP and Fielding drills for YEARS and are still going strong.
Probably a million times.. a ball going through a pitching machine easily wears it out more than 100 throws. When a ball it thrown the damage would be hitting the glove.. with the pitching machine.. it’s torn up when the wheels grab it.
The wear on the ball is probably from the pitching machines. I feel like you could throw a ball almost forever without the cover coming off
Right but arms can’t handle that test
@BobbyBarraza Science, nature, and biology all conducted by trained professionals in the field who have been practicing it for decades.
@@hichkakdeemo5413 Didn't he mention it in one of the first checks of the ball? That the wear seemed to be more from the machine?
@@hichkakdeemo5413 no, he said the seams interact with the air differently because they are raised
@@gh0st555 its possible it will just take a very very long time
I must say, that speed on the ball was much faster than a casual game of catch.
@Velez Kids Maybe a casual game of catch for professionals? I'd agree with you though
Nah that’s like highschool catch from a medium distance
A normal game of friendly catches is probs 40 mph
Nah, a normal game for most adults would be 50 to 60. For pros 60 to 70.
40 is like what a 9 year old could throw.@@MichaelM63917
If you threw a baseball to Eric 12,000 times he'd probably drop it 12,000 times
Funny
He will drop it 24,000 times
Only drop it 12000 times?
He would probably drop a lot more than 12,000! 😂 Funny though! ⚾️
𝔽𝕒𝕩𝕤😂
If you throw a ball (and don’t drop it) I’d think it would last 75,000 plus throws. It’s the machine ruining it lol
same as a bowling ball ramp and a professinal bowling ball.
Quick moment of silence for all of Kevin’s hard work on this video 😂
Fr rip
Haven’t gotten very far into this experiment. But it seems like the ball is being affected more so by the pitching machine than by catching it
i was thinking the same thing
When you had the broken baseball and were making it fly in weird ways it reminded me of something. When I go golf I like to find cracked golf balls and tee off with them cause they take the weirdest flight paths. It's so entertaining to see a ball curve four different directions in one drive.
The fact they went through 12,000 catches and shut it down as soon as it got interesting was the biggest blue balls ever 😂
Now you guys should have Eric hit it 12 thousand times 😂
To be fair he can barely hit it once😂
That's like 48,000 pitches
@@bubbleheadft and only like 200 homers
@@GuyrillaBraun 1/420 abs per homerun
8:29 nice job on Kevin for syncing this to Super Mario Bros
I had a ball that I literally used for years because it had a bunch of cuts and dips in it that made it move crazy like that one. If you threw it righ over the top it would have some insane movement. Sadly the cover came off and it had to be retired
8:29 Super Mario Baseball
Great video. It was both entertaining and really informative.
Ironically, my son and I were just talking today about how long a baseball night last since we segregate our warm up/catching balls from our batting practice balls.
I now have an idea that our catching balls will out live me. 😅
Batting balls may be a different story.
If this video doesn’t show how dedicated they are I don’t know what will that’s worth a like definitely worth I like
I like the video and I don't mean to nitpick but as others have said, the pitching machine has the most impact on the condition of the ball by a long shot. I think it would not only make for a better video but also be more comfortable for you guys producing it, had you done a small number of throws everyday(100 or less) over the span of years. It could also be a cool way to record moments of your life over the span of a few years or however long it takes. If you're up for it, I'm sure your audience would be interested.
Seams like a fun idea. (sorry)
Way to train the basics boys, keep it up and you might make it to the big leagues one day
He plays for the dodgers 😂
@@blicks1321 Its a joke dude.... And no he actually doesn't play for the dodgers🤣
@@Fly-The-W yeah lol, might want to check what Trevor has been up to
That one guy who uses the same ball for years.
😂😂that’s a lot of testing love the commitment though you guys are the real hero’s appreciate y’all ❤😂😮
Thank you Kevin for editing this!
Credit to the pitching machines 🫡
The bad news: The wear on the baseball was from the wheels on the picthing machine
The good news: You inveted new training for catchers
I'm pretty sure someone uses this training exercise.
What new training? They are literally doing what catchers already do. Catching the ball
same apprently happens to bownlign balls and the handicap bowling ball ramp from things ive done in life, peaople wouldent care if battowed the bowlingball they perswonaly owned, but would be like woa woa only one or two rolls on the bowling ball ramp, becuase it "Destoys the ball".
Kevin you the man. I would’ve died editing this
IDK how you guys made this video interesting, but you pulled it off! Good job Kev!
Thank you! 🥲 Definitely couldn’t have done it without Tosh and Trevor’s help!
9:55 trevor all of a sudden concerned about things being safe
Playing catch is a lot different than feeding a ball thru a machine. Those tires eat balls up. I bet a baseball would last over a million throws in a normal game of catch
If you just throw a ball back and forth like a game of catch between regular humans, 1 baseball should last for your entire baseball throwing life. I have played catch with 50, 60, and 70 year old baseballs. They are quite durable. Hitting them with bats is what really kills them. Throwing and catching them doesn't cause much damage.
I feel like this showed the ware n tare of a ball through a pitching machine more than from it being caught. A ball you're playing catch with at 70mph is not going to have that same ware as a ball thru a machine 500 times.
I definitely don't blame you for using the machines, tho. 10k throws in a 4 hour span is definitely not good for the Ole arm. It was cool to see what it did to the gloves and how they were broken in as the experiment continued. Nice vid! Never expect anything less from the guys at momentum!! Always have entertaining vids, and you don't have to ride on the back of Trevor and Sim's trash talk back n forth.
In all honesty, a channel with just those two doing random competitions would be hilarious to watch. Like just walking down the street and challenging who can get someone to honk first or do mini golf, go karts, arcade games, etc. You name it, and their competitiveness will always make for great content. I'd watch every video put out of theirs if they made it. Keep on killin it, guys! And Kevin too lol!!!!
Love you Kevin
Appreciate the love and support!
I need Trevor back in the mlb
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@@Jharv39if you didnt know he was one of the best pitchers in the mlb but then he had an incident
You should do how many hits it takes to break a baseball
I can think of balls that have been through BP and fielding drills for YEARS and are still going strong.
Catchers glove are a pain to break in but it works a lot
Only the son of an Engineer would have the mind capable of repeating this interation so many times… Well done.
Love the grind
You’re guys humor is top notch lol
"How many throws left? 800, 900? Counting is a pain, let's say 1000!"
Yes! There it is!
this was the first video i saw of ya'll i watched ever since
Friction of the machines definitely effected the ball.
Yeah, that's a huge variable in this kinda experiment.
be neat to see if you can get more movement in pitches with a wore out ball like that . like differences in pitches with different levels of worn out balls
Thanks Kevin for you're great work.
Now that you've done how many throws, you should do how many hits it takes to break a baseball
If you agree
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The pitching machine is what tears it up if not you could throw if forever
8:30 that Mario song though 🤣
The launcher is a lot harder on the ball than throwing by hand.
7:01 Tosh singing pretty good 👍
PItching machine is extremely tough on the ball.
16:40 I'm thinking that the cover on the ball flipping around is causing a distraction for your eyes, making it harder to catch. The ball isn't moving that much compared to some sliders, etc.
"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball." It was the best line 👌
The grind was amazing
Thanks to Kevin.(Trevor and Tosh owe him at least a nice dinner)
This is only the machine. The smell the color the stress its all the machine. This is just how many times can a ball go through the machine.
Nokona for the Win! Nice work guys!
as a guy who play baseball in a country where it's not even a sport, we have balls that have been used for years.
comments saying its the machine runing it., makes snese, its two wheels, not a moving cyborg hand.
I’m from the town where Nokona’s are made; Nocona, TX! These gloves are the best!! Thanks for choosing one for this test!!!
I’ve had a ball from high school ball for over a decade with well over 12,000 throws and it’s looking pretty solid still.
you guys should try how long it takes to break in a composite bat
This is what happens when athletes perform science
The friction of the machine played a huge factor in this
I wonder how the speed was affected by the change of the ball
Dodgeball is one of my favorites
ngl, growing up I played with many a ball that looked like the one at the end all the iterations in between. makes me nostalgic for those days. good stuff.
And this is the kind of stuff that hitters from back in the day had to deal with (from 1890-1960) back when they didn’t replace the ball that often
My dad and I used the same baseball for catch for 10 years.....
Ah yes, you can describe baseball pitches like dodgeball. Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge. Thanks Patches O'houlihan.
Now this is called real baseball
You should do how many fungoes on grounders would break a baseball next. Maybe grass/clay would make a difference?
I was rooting for the ⚾️! I am glade it I guess won. Go Cardinals!
6900 throws, VERY NICE!
Towards the end of that ball's lifespan, it looked like Trevor and Tosh were trying to catch Tim Wakefield knuckleballs with all the weird ways the ball was spinning.
I actually loved this video so much
I loved the vid. Thank you for all the time spent
@Willys Gameing ok? but even then, they wasted a lot of their time for this entertainment
Batting glove (with padding on fingers. I love the current Franklin that Jose Abreu and Gary Sanchez Jr are using) under your mitt. Your fingers will last forever.
I tell you that in exchange for you and your boy Clev signing with the Cubs next year
Trevor, I'd be happy to see you throw a black baseball over the fence at Kauffman for the Royals
Amazing in more ways than one.
As a kid who abused baseballs by throwing them against a cement wall with a white square painted on it I had an opposite result. The leather would start getting torn and scuffed as well as the seams. Would end up being like loose cowhide
Same lol had no friends so it was the only way to practice grounders and throwing
See how many times Eric can hit a 69Mph ball before Eric breaks.
I'd like to see you guys get a ball super scuffed then tack it up, use everything, to try and max out the movement you can get on a ball
Banger. Keep it coming B.
That pitching machine is nice
the timelaps was really neat
The Nocona glove Trevor is using is produced in Nocona, Texas! It’s a very small town that makes one of the best gloves!
Should have used a Champro Kevlar Stitched Baseball designed for pitching machines. I bet you'd still be doing it. Nice video, but you forgot the final glove review.
I have taken a brand new baseball out of the package for IF/OF practice and it looks like it is a century old after practice.
You can tell that the ball is definitely affected because the speed clock behind Trevor is displaying unpredictable numbers the more the ball wears down! Example. 64.9 mph on one throw and 70.2 on the next! Then it became predictable again after 6000 to 7000!
Through a catching machine -12k
Just playing catch - 100+ years
I have a baseball that I've used for catch for probably 18 years now? Granted this ball is only used for catch, ranging from 30 - 90 mph depending on who I am playing catch with. When I was playing competitively as a pitcher we switched balls every few innings just cause of the damage a bat would do. That said, I actually preferred the worked in balls as a pitcher because new balls could be tough on the fingers with how pronounced the seams were.
No mud, not legit! Hahah love your guys’ stuff
This is a test but to truly know it can’t be a machine like this. They do make machines that launch the ball like a catapult in a way
That was a weekend effect growing up in South end Muscatine.
would love to see what kind of movement you would get pitching with a ball after every 50 times through the machine.
Testament to the durability of those machines to. I bet the companies of the machines would like to see results of them from all this
Pro Baseball Players: "Nice game of catch is 69mph"
Me: Maxes out at 64mph on the radar gun, almost throwing my shoulder out.
Woww you guys are so devoted! I like it!
should've use 1st baseman glove, easier to break in thank catcher, but also mostly meant for catching
Hire “interns” and have them repeat the 12000 throws manually.
Plus I think the catch speed would be 20 miles per hour slower. Zero damage at 12k would be my guess
69 mph 6900 throw and 69 seams broken that’s crazy
This is one hell of a 9-5. Catch a baseball and try to see when a ball breaks apart.
I propose the worlds largest circular game of catch with like a hundred people to properly test this.