Snow is falling and everything is freezing up!!! 😭❄🌨 I grudgingly am putting my boat to sleep for the long winter's nap, so it's officially time to gear up for ice fishing. Here's everything you need to convert your Echomap in to an ice fishing sonar rig, hope you like it!
Hi Brian, you're very welcome!! Crazy how several people DMd me over the last few days asking if I knew about the ice fishing bundles and I was busy editing this video. Good timing I guess!!
Merci Dan, super vidéo encore une fois. Pour l'alimentation j'ai finalement fait mon choix. Amped 30 Ah pour mon Livescope Echomap UHD, ajustement parfait dans le kit. Bien hâte de tester le tout sur la glace. Bonne saison.
De rien Hugo ! Au fait, suis-je fou ou m'as-tu dit bonjour cet automne à la rampe PAT ? Cette batterie est énorme, vous allez avoir toutes sortes de puissance cet hiver !! J'ai hâte d'essayer mon nouveau Livescope, super excité de le voir en action et de faire quelques vidéos. Merci encore pour votre support et bonne saison hivernale de pêche sur glace en toute sécurité :)
Thanks for making this helpful video scheels was telling me there’s no way to hook a 4 pin or even the 8 pin transducer to my 7sv 12 pin! Even with the ice pack kit. Just a $20 adapter cable! Thanks again & for youtube!
Great video brother I am doing the same thing to mine currently waiting on the power cord was just wondering if you have fished with yours yet was just curious how well it works
Hi John! Great question, the Echomap and Garmin GLS 10 Panoptix box are rated for a minimum operating temperature of -15C (5F) and the MTech battery has a minimum discharge temperature of -25C (-15F). So great for ice fishing (I don't ice fish outside in much colder than that) plus they stay a bit warmer in the bag with the heat generating from the electronics. I think when things get colder outside, that's when people start using a tent lol!
I get the choice between the dual neam and the GT CHIRP series transducer. Kind of curious why you went with the High Wide GT8 over the High Narrow GT10? I've been looking at the GT10 to backup a unit with livescope but this video has me wondering if I'm making the right choice.
This is a great question, let me explain my choice: If you ice fish mainly deep water, go with the narrow beam GT10. I fish mainly 5 - 20 feet and RARELY 30 feet so for me the wider beam is best with the GT8. If I consistently fished 50+ feet, I'd probably go with the 10. Hope that helps!
I got the impression the ice sonar kit and transducer will work on my unit. But i cannot find a flasher mode on my Striker vivid 7sv+ .. will that mode appear as a option after i switch out my boat transducer with the gt8hw transducer?
Hi Bucky, you are correct, you need a compatible transducer to enable the screen you want. So if you have no transducers connected, no sonar screens are available. If you only have a Livescope transducer, then you only see Panoptix views etc. So once you plug in the ice fishing transducer, the flasher menu will become available :)
A little off topic,.. I have an echomap 73 sv. I have my gt54 transducer on the back. I was told I could add another gt54 to the front(trolling motor) and run them both to the same unit. But I had to basically buy a splitter cord to run both cables to the unit with a switch that let me toggle between each transducer. Because the unit can't run off both of them at the same time? Is this true? And could you tell me what exactly needs to be done and bought to accomplish this?
This is a great question and it's kind of a yes and no answer. You can technically run two GT5x transducers together but not in the way you are looking for. There is a splitter and a configuration that allows you to pair up two transducers, but it would be for left and right sidescan only and you have to select which one does the left and which does the right. This is anyone with a boat that has a big motor or something else blocking a single transducer from getting sidescan on both sides. But you would not be able to do this in your setup and have both working at the same time of be able to choose one or the other, that's just not supported. You can read about the splitter and what it can do here: support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=jmQSWv9wgi20351c3Hkf86&searchQuery=transducer%20y-cable In order to do what you are looking for, you would have to have a second echomap (I am assuming your 73sv is a Plus or UHD and can be networked) and connect a GT54 to each unit and then you can share the transducers over the network and use them from either unit. Hope that helps!
To be honest I haven't tried it yet!!! But I think the adjustments to the traditional sonar would be the same as the water... play around with the gain to get the level of detail you want. The rest should be good to go! I haven't even gone out yet but I will make a video the first time I use it :)
I really like Dean's service at MTech and most of the pro anglers I know and respect their opinions use MTech batteries. The only thing I don't like is the form factor doesn't fit very well inside the frame/bag. That's why I give the dimensions of the battery area so you can shop for a form factor that will fit better. For Dakota, I know they sell a ton and seem to be good batteries, but I keep hearing their customer support is flat out awful. I don't know anything about Marcum batteries so I can't really offer an opinion on those ones. Thanks so much for the question and for subscribing!
So there is something I feel like maybe could be another video and that is the difference between HW and HN transducers. But to answer your question, the cheaper transducer is the Dual Beam IF transducer, model 010-13069-00 that you can find for $100 CAD. The 8HW is the better transducer vs that model. Now for the GT10, I'm not sure if it's discontinued but I only see the GT10HN (High Narrow) listed on Garmin now, which is not good for shallower fishing as the cone angle is smaller. So for the wider cone angle (HW - High Wide) models, it seems it only comes in the GT8. It should be noted the GT8 also comes in an HN version, but I recommend for most people, get the HW. Hope that helps!
Garmin recommends the GT8 (transducer in this video) for fishing in waters 50ft and shallower. For deeper than 50ft they recommend the GT10. Although guys have said they have used their GT8 as deep as 80ft with no issues. Cone angle of the GT8 is adjustable 16-24 degrees. GT10 is adjustable 7-16 degrees. There is also an older/out dated “dual beam” ice transducer that has 2 fixed cone angles to choose from 15 or 45 degrees but, nothing selectable between and if I’m not mistaken doesn’t support chirp frequency either.
@@hooznxt04 would you not get a better separation with the tighter cone? New to Garmin was Humminbird to the bone but made the switch in the spring ordered a GT 10 but might need a GT 8 for walleye
@@aaroncase197 you would definitely think so and that’s what others “claim” yet garmin hasn’t published any specs on separation to confirm. I’m in the same boat as you. I have the 8 but am going to purchase the 10 for walleye fishing. I think the 8 would do the job fine but I want the narrower cone of the 10 to dial in on the fishable area below the hole. In 30ft of water the narrowest angle cone (16*) with the 8 is probably showing area outside of the hole that isn’t really fishable. You have to remember the cone gets wider the deeper the water. If you’re fishing for walleye in 15-18 ft of water or shallow water for panfish the 8 should do you just fine. I’m no expert by any means, so take this for what it’s worth. Just passing on the info I’ve gathered.
I’m here for help. I just bought the Garmin Echomap Ultra 106sv and I’m wondering what transducer should I use for ice fishing. Does anyone know or have suggestions?
This is a great question and I don't want to give you a non answer but it really depends on what style and what kind of water you fish. If you fish deeper water or just rock piles and other areas that are not choked with weeds, then you probably don't need the ice transducer. If you fish shallow flats and bays like I do that still have a ton of weeds even when there's ice on the water then you might find the panoptix is not very useful and this is where the ice transducer would perform better. Now to be completely transparent, I have never tried ice fishing with a livecope so I can only go by the feedback I've had from other anglers. I'm continuously being told that the livescope is not very effective in shallow water with a ton of weeds and that it's almost unreadable. Hope that helps!
It depends on the depth you're fishing. If you fish super deep, then you want the 10 which is narrow. Most people I know fish regular to shallow depths, so the wider 8 would be better. The unit type you are using isn't relevant, hope that helps!
Hey i got the Garmin ice fishing kit for my echpmap sv and when i plug in the transducer that came in the kit i don't have the option for side scan or clear vu... Is the transducer that Garmin offers in the bundle not capable of doing those function? Thanks
Not yet, but my Livescope arrives next week so I am super pumped to try it!!! I'll do a new video showing how to install the livescope in this ice fishing rig. And then in the spring I'll add it to the boat!
@@DanRichardFishing I got mine middle of the ice season last year and changed everything I did when looking for fish in the ice.You will have a ton of fun with it making the time on the ice way more enjoyable.
Got to 17 minutes or so where you explain that the bag is not secured to the plastic frame. I've had the bag fall off many times, others lifting it have left the bag behind. What a pain! I recently bought the Portable Striker 4 and added an Ice-Ducer to it. The bag has a velcroed pocket that attaches it to the frame. Very secure. They've solved the problem in their cheapest unit, but not the most expensive.
Yeah it's a bit weird but honestly I've lugged it around fully loaded and as long as you only use the main handle that's sewn in to the bag, it seems to be OK. I have a new video on this set up launching tomorrow and I discovered a new company that makes some awesome ice fishing accessories for Garmin equipment that I wish I would have known about before buying the Garmin brand bag. Check it out tomorrow if you get a chance :)
Snow is falling and everything is freezing up!!! 😭❄🌨 I grudgingly am putting my boat to sleep for the long winter's nap, so it's officially time to gear up for ice fishing. Here's everything you need to convert your Echomap in to an ice fishing sonar rig, hope you like it!
Thanks for a great and insightful video. Just what I was looking for. Keep em coming
You're very welcome! Next up I'll be adding Livescope to it!
I waited all day to come home and watch this you my friend are the best thank you for this !!!!
Hi Brian, you're very welcome!! Crazy how several people DMd me over the last few days asking if I knew about the ice fishing bundles and I was busy editing this video. Good timing I guess!!
Thank you for the quick response, you was so very helpful
My pleasure, good luck with your ice fishing!!
Thanks for your great detailed videos nobody at Cabela's seems to have a clue how to explain any of this stuff to people
Hahaha my pleasure!
Great video!!! Thanks very much!!! Definitely deserve a sub for the well explanations!!!
Thank you so much for the kind words and for the sub! Tight lines! :)
Merci Dan, super vidéo encore une fois. Pour l'alimentation j'ai finalement fait mon choix. Amped 30 Ah pour mon Livescope Echomap UHD, ajustement parfait dans le kit. Bien hâte de tester le tout sur la glace. Bonne saison.
De rien Hugo ! Au fait, suis-je fou ou m'as-tu dit bonjour cet automne à la rampe PAT ?
Cette batterie est énorme, vous allez avoir toutes sortes de puissance cet hiver !! J'ai hâte d'essayer mon nouveau Livescope, super excité de le voir en action et de faire quelques vidéos.
Merci encore pour votre support et bonne saison hivernale de pêche sur glace en toute sécurité :)
I'll have to try that next time I go ice fishing... might have to wait a while for the ice to form down here in south Florida tho... LOL!!!
Ya ya rub it in... 🤣🤣
Thanks for making this helpful video scheels was telling me there’s no way to hook a 4 pin or even the 8 pin transducer to my 7sv 12 pin! Even with the ice pack kit. Just a $20 adapter cable! Thanks again & for youtube!
Glad I could help! Yeah it's pretty simple with the cable :)
Great video brother I am doing the same thing to mine currently waiting on the power cord was just wondering if you have fished with yours yet was just curious how well it works
Not yet unfortunately, I am hoping to finally out this week!!
Nice video Dan. How do the electronics hold up in below freezing temps?
Hi John! Great question, the Echomap and Garmin GLS 10 Panoptix box are rated for a minimum operating temperature of -15C (5F) and the MTech battery has a minimum discharge temperature of -25C (-15F). So great for ice fishing (I don't ice fish outside in much colder than that) plus they stay a bit warmer in the bag with the heat generating from the electronics. I think when things get colder outside, that's when people start using a tent lol!
I got the garmin gt10 transducer and I can only use flasher and traditional how can I get Clearvü sidevü
I just got the 93sv , wanting to just use for ice fishing, flasher only. Trying to figure out what transducer I need to buy
You want the one that I mentioned in this video and link to in the description :)
Could I be able to fit my 10inch? I see there’s some slack with the zippers
I get the choice between the dual neam and the GT CHIRP series transducer. Kind of curious why you went with the High Wide GT8 over the High Narrow GT10? I've been looking at the GT10 to backup a unit with livescope but this video has me wondering if I'm making the right choice.
This is a great question, let me explain my choice: If you ice fish mainly deep water, go with the narrow beam GT10. I fish mainly 5 - 20 feet and RARELY 30 feet so for me the wider beam is best with the GT8. If I consistently fished 50+ feet, I'd probably go with the 10. Hope that helps!
@@DanRichardFishing Makes perfect sense when you consider the depths you're consistently fishing. Thanks for your input.
I want to do reverse. Buy ice fishing kit then convert it to open water. Is that possible? Thanks
I got the impression the ice sonar kit and transducer will work on my unit. But i cannot find a flasher mode on my Striker vivid 7sv+ .. will that mode appear as a option after i switch out my boat transducer with the gt8hw transducer?
Hi Bucky, you are correct, you need a compatible transducer to enable the screen you want. So if you have no transducers connected, no sonar screens are available. If you only have a Livescope transducer, then you only see Panoptix views etc. So once you plug in the ice fishing transducer, the flasher menu will become available :)
Do you think the echomap 106sv and craddel will fit in this garmin extra large soft cases and base? Thanks!
Yes, it should fit!
It fits. It's snug, but it fits, even with the screen cover on
Amped Outdoors has a 30ah, 32ah and 48ah that will fit. Best on the market
OK cool! Maybe I'll get my hands on one of their batteries one day so I can try it out!
Has anyone put a echomap 102 or 106 in the setup.. does it fit?
A little off topic,..
I have an echomap 73 sv. I have my gt54 transducer on the back. I was told I could add another gt54 to the front(trolling motor) and run them both to the same unit. But I had to basically buy a splitter cord to run both cables to the unit with a switch that let me toggle between each transducer. Because the unit can't run off both of them at the same time? Is this true? And could you tell me what exactly needs to be done and bought to accomplish this?
This is a great question and it's kind of a yes and no answer. You can technically run two GT5x transducers together but not in the way you are looking for. There is a splitter and a configuration that allows you to pair up two transducers, but it would be for left and right sidescan only and you have to select which one does the left and which does the right. This is anyone with a boat that has a big motor or something else blocking a single transducer from getting sidescan on both sides. But you would not be able to do this in your setup and have both working at the same time of be able to choose one or the other, that's just not supported. You can read about the splitter and what it can do here: support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=jmQSWv9wgi20351c3Hkf86&searchQuery=transducer%20y-cable
In order to do what you are looking for, you would have to have a second echomap (I am assuming your 73sv is a Plus or UHD and can be networked) and connect a GT54 to each unit and then you can share the transducers over the network and use them from either unit.
Hope that helps!
@@DanRichardFishing it's a disappointing answer. Haha. But it definitely helps. Thank you 🤙
Any setting adjustments for ice fishing?
To be honest I haven't tried it yet!!! But I think the adjustments to the traditional sonar would be the same as the water... play around with the gain to get the level of detail you want. The rest should be good to go! I haven't even gone out yet but I will make a video the first time I use it :)
How is the battery, and why u chose it over the dakota/Marcum since every1 raves about it.
I really like Dean's service at MTech and most of the pro anglers I know and respect their opinions use MTech batteries. The only thing I don't like is the form factor doesn't fit very well inside the frame/bag. That's why I give the dimensions of the battery area so you can shop for a form factor that will fit better. For Dakota, I know they sell a ton and seem to be good batteries, but I keep hearing their customer support is flat out awful. I don't know anything about Marcum batteries so I can't really offer an opinion on those ones. Thanks so much for the question and for subscribing!
You said you had the better transducer? Is the 8 better then the 10? Great vid by the way.
So there is something I feel like maybe could be another video and that is the difference between HW and HN transducers. But to answer your question, the cheaper transducer is the Dual Beam IF transducer, model 010-13069-00 that you can find for $100 CAD. The 8HW is the better transducer vs that model. Now for the GT10, I'm not sure if it's discontinued but I only see the GT10HN (High Narrow) listed on Garmin now, which is not good for shallower fishing as the cone angle is smaller. So for the wider cone angle (HW - High Wide) models, it seems it only comes in the GT8. It should be noted the GT8 also comes in an HN version, but I recommend for most people, get the HW. Hope that helps!
Garmin recommends the GT8 (transducer in this video) for fishing in waters 50ft and shallower. For deeper than 50ft they recommend the GT10. Although guys have said they have used their GT8 as deep as 80ft with no issues. Cone angle of the GT8 is adjustable 16-24 degrees. GT10 is adjustable 7-16 degrees.
There is also an older/out dated “dual beam” ice transducer that has 2 fixed cone angles to choose from 15 or 45 degrees but, nothing selectable between and if I’m not mistaken doesn’t support chirp frequency either.
@@hooznxt04 would you not get a better separation with the tighter cone? New to Garmin was Humminbird to the bone but made the switch in the spring ordered a GT 10 but might need a GT 8 for walleye
@@aaroncase197 you would definitely think so and that’s what others “claim” yet garmin hasn’t published any specs on separation to confirm. I’m in the same boat as you. I have the 8 but am going to purchase the 10 for walleye fishing. I think the 8 would do the job fine but I want the narrower cone of the 10 to dial in on the fishable area below the hole. In 30ft of water the narrowest angle cone (16*) with the 8 is probably showing area outside of the hole that isn’t really fishable. You have to remember the cone gets wider the deeper the water. If you’re fishing for walleye in 15-18 ft of water or shallow water for panfish the 8 should do you just fine. I’m no expert by any means, so take this for what it’s worth. Just passing on the info I’ve gathered.
I’m here for help. I just bought the Garmin Echomap Ultra 106sv and I’m wondering what transducer should I use for ice fishing. Does anyone know or have suggestions?
It is the 10inch screen unit ^^
I built a setup using my ps22 panoptix do you fill it is worth the money to buy a ice Transducer to use with it?
This is a great question and I don't want to give you a non answer but it really depends on what style and what kind of water you fish. If you fish deeper water or just rock piles and other areas that are not choked with weeds, then you probably don't need the ice transducer. If you fish shallow flats and bays like I do that still have a ton of weeds even when there's ice on the water then you might find the panoptix is not very useful and this is where the ice transducer would perform better.
Now to be completely transparent, I have never tried ice fishing with a livecope so I can only go by the feedback I've had from other anglers. I'm continuously being told that the livescope is not very effective in shallow water with a ton of weeds and that it's almost unreadable. Hope that helps!
@Dan Richard Fishing thanks i do fish in weeds at times that is what I was wondering
I have the 53cv and I can’t get it to work it doesn’t think I’m on the water
Will the Ecomap 73cv cradle mount in this?
Yes it definitely will!
Is the GT-10 a better transducer for the ultra 10?
It depends on the depth you're fishing. If you fish super deep, then you want the 10 which is narrow. Most people I know fish regular to shallow depths, so the wider 8 would be better. The unit type you are using isn't relevant, hope that helps!
Hey i got the Garmin ice fishing kit for my echpmap sv and when i plug in the transducer that came in the kit i don't have the option for side scan or clear vu... Is the transducer that Garmin offers in the bundle not capable of doing those function? Thanks
Transducer in kit is the
gt10hn-if
No both of those options are available for the open water /boat transducer that support those mode.
HI Dan, have you ice fished with Panoptix yet?
Not yet, but my Livescope arrives next week so I am super pumped to try it!!! I'll do a new video showing how to install the livescope in this ice fishing rig. And then in the spring I'll add it to the boat!
@@DanRichardFishing I got mine middle of the ice season last year and changed everything I did when looking for fish in the ice.You will have a ton of fun with it making the time on the ice way more enjoyable.
🙂 👍🏻👍🏻
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Got to 17 minutes or so where you explain that the bag is not secured to the plastic frame. I've had the bag fall off many times, others lifting it have left the bag behind. What a pain! I recently bought the Portable Striker 4 and added an Ice-Ducer to it. The bag has a velcroed pocket that attaches it to the frame. Very secure. They've solved the problem in their cheapest unit, but not the most expensive.
Yeah it's a bit weird but honestly I've lugged it around fully loaded and as long as you only use the main handle that's sewn in to the bag, it seems to be OK. I have a new video on this set up launching tomorrow and I discovered a new company that makes some awesome ice fishing accessories for Garmin equipment that I wish I would have known about before buying the Garmin brand bag. Check it out tomorrow if you get a chance :)
Summit Fishing Equipment makes awesome transducer pole mounts for the Livescope. Also conversions to take the same pole onto the boat.
So in order to run that ice transducer I need the 4 to 12 pin adapter for my echomap ultra 10" correct?
You got it!
Kinda sad that the small bag is better designed