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I don’t know if the CLP materials have a term for it, but BB’s small XR on the flop immediately smelled a lot like one of those small “pot-sweetener” raises that people make with draws. His 6 7 didn’t feel surprising until after that silly river jam.
Every time I've seen anyone cold call a flop 3 bet, it is literally almost always sets, and occasionally something like top 2. Likewise, when the BB overcalls the 3 bet, it SCREAMS 76, because you're always drawing to the nuts plus you're getting a fantastic price (unless somehow he has a set too). BB's hand is just so face up on the river when he open jams into two people.
Shouldn't BB just bet the CO's remaining stack on river to try and get two calls, getting AA,KK and other sets to fold just seems like an error and only getting called by flushes. It's almost like they are turning it into a bluff to fold out the Hero who might have weak spade or a straight, but then still has to get through CO....wild hand
Think I might over-bet turn here, given the flop action. Bet $1150 or even $1500, to give draws a bad price to chase and put max pressure on worse sets. We have enough AK in our range to get calls from sets and folds from high equity draws.
This comment is 100% result oriented. The only high equity draw is 67 of spades which would never fold and you dont want to fold worse draws, you wanna make them pay. You have no idea what you are saying and you are just a player who is terrifed of getting out drawn. But guess what, it happens.
@@pedro.gandraLOL. BB check-raised flop, repping a set, and CO overcalled, which looks like a draw. We want to get stacks in with the BB, because he's deeper. I'm fine with the CO folding a draw if it means we're more likely to scoop the whole pot, instead of having to split it when the draw comes in on the river. It's not results oriented. I'm looking at what makes the most money here, and that's getting stacks in against worse sets and folding out the draws.
@@pedro.gandraWhat's wrong with overbetting? It's a draw heavy board by the turn so you can get fish to put in way more than they should with draws, or fold out draws, or represent them as a bluff (though this is harder given hero's flop action), and on top of that, given the flop action, sets are heavily represented in the opponents' range and we want to get their money before draws come in and shut down the betting. Overbetting turn seems alright to me, but maybe I'm wrong?
I was thinking hero shoves turn here. Having the nuts with 2 draws out there (not counting combos, just straight and flush draw available) that may or may not call, and running it twice which they should agree to do
I like the limo aa kk Ak reraise technique. It is a way to get fish out or play as slow if no one raises. The raise in first position really gets you no equity when your raising $15 and your 2200 effective😊
Tough one. I paused to think about it. I would call because hero should almost never have a straight or a flush here so AA is just about the top of his range and because he said BB is an action player who sometimes does weird stuff. Could he be turning naked Ks into a bluff???
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I lose my money in this situation. I also would of jammed on the Turn once I hit my Set. But, shit happens. That was a Very Good lay down. Who would of thought 76??
After the turn, I was thinking that 7-6 of spades or 9-7 of spades were possible hands. I wasn't expecting 7-6 without the flush draw. The 9 of spades wasn't a good river card, but it did block one of the two kingless flush draws from being possible hands for either opponent.
re: limp raising, there's a vid with chris ferguson limp UTG with aces and mike matusow limps behind with QQ, limps all the way to button who raises giving ferguson the opportunity to reraise, mike shoves and cries like a baby hahaha "i knew you had aces!"
I don't like the turn bet size. I shove a third of the time to make undersets pay me the max, especially with AK out there. I bet just under half CO's stack a third of the time, hoping CO shoves and lets me 3-bet shove if BB just calls CO's shove. The final third of the time, I bet CO's stack size. Then CO can't raise, and if BB raises, I have the nuts and he is paying a lot to draw. Betting over half of CO's stack prevented hero from reraising if CO shoved, plus reduced the chance of him doing it. BB could close the turn action with a call, whether or not CO shoved, instead of only being able to close the action if CO flatted. CO did flat, but that doesn't keep me from considering hero's turn bet size to be a mistake largely due to what happens if CO instead shoves.
I thought Nate played this well [not a surprise]. I did agree with Bart about turn size, first thought when Nate said the ace hit was bet 6-700. While it does suck, the river is just such an obvious fold. On a random spade we can evaluate, but on a 9 or 4 of spades...I just cannot put more money in. In other news; Bart mentioned Sklansky's new book & I did see the video going over some very strange play suggestions made by his "co-author"? His name escapes me. I definitely agreed with Bart there was some very odd stuff going on. In this video he does mention limping AA or KK though. As far as that goes, when I'm UTG [and sometimes +1] I will limp at some frequency based on how the table is playing. What I've found is that when I 4X from UTG it's often the case that no one will ever 3 bet me & also the case that I will get 4 or more callers. The truth is that when 5 or 6 people see a flop, AA is really not that strong a hand. I know this is "old school" thinking and it's sort of considered mandatory to open rather than limp now. Maybe it's because my image is somewhat nitty, but this simply works much better for me.
Agree that a random spade we could maybe call. 9/4 spades are the worst cards in the deck. Awful luck for hero. Regards limp-reraising AA/KK from EP, do you limp-reraise any other hands for balance? Or are the players not good enough to exploit you so it doesn’t matter?
My first thought was to bet 1.5x pot. I really think this is a spot where we need to over-bet the turn. BB is repping 88/55/K8/K5/85 or 67 with his flop x/r. Seems like the CO has a similar range, though probably more weighted towards draws or some suited Kx holding when he calls the flop 3B behind the BB's x/r. Because AA is actually behind the BB's range, the As on the turn is just a miracle card that gives us the nuts, but also improves the equity for a hand like 67s. We can get value from all our opponents' 88/55 combos that think we've got AK, possibly get called by K8/K5, and deny equity of 67. I don't want to bet pot or less, if it's going to make either opponent think they're getting the right implied odds to call and try to out-draw us. I don't want to have to fold top set to a river jam on any spade, 9 or 4. As for the limping in EP with premium hands - I have a limp-3B range for certain games, that includes AA/KK/AKs/A5s. Especially in 1/3 games with a $500 cap and a standard open size of $15, where the SPR of 3B's and 4B's is often such that a 4B is just a jam. I'd rather limp-3B from EP than open my usual range and try to figure out if I want to get pot-committed when facing a 3B from LP. Like, if I open UTG to $15, and get 3-4 callers, it's terrible. If someone 3B's, the 3B size is going to be at least $45, making the standard 4B size of 3x more than 30% of a $500 stack. I'd rather open limp, see some over-limps, see someone raise to $25-$30 from MP-LP, see 1 or 2 players cold-call the raise, then put in a 5x-6x 3B from UTG, to put max pressure on the MP/LP opener's wider range.
These two villains are straight out of microstakes. Calling along with a straight draw, not raising, but also just not ever folding. I'm going to bet the guy who mucked with a King showing had K5. He will keep calling along bc why ever fold two pair?
The CO had Kx. Probably KQ the most likely, but I'd almost stake my life his unshown card was not 2pair or a set. Competent players still seem to have trouble understanding WHY these people do the things they do. Here is the Cutoff's inner monologue.... Flop: Yes! top pair! Oh my raising and lost of it, eh they're probably just both raising to see where the other one is at. No one raises sets or 2 pair on flops that don't have flush draws, I'm gonna win lots of moniez! Turn: FML! I am so unlucky, this is an unjust travesty that I am going to lose this pot. Oh it's my turn to act? Well If I fold I lose this pot, which is unjust, and I hate losing, I call. River: Oh well, it's only $500 more whatever I call, ugh 67???... he was behind both on the flop and on the turn! I will show them my King so he understands how lucky he got, and how I really had no choice, and I'm not a bad player or anything, better not let him see the other card though, that one one won't help, ehhhh maybe I am a bad player, but hopefully this King will fool them alright, the other one could be anything after all :/
I tried to come up with a rationale for CO calling turn and river, but I couldn't do it. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like calling turn with the K of spades specifically seems really bad, because it rules out opponents drawing to the nut flush, making it more likely they have made hands that beat Kx.
This is weird because what I'm thinking on the river here before I finish the video is why would the BB jam? Even if he thinks that hero is going to check, there's little chance that the CO will check too, so if he did hit his straight or flush here on the river, he should look to check raise instead I would think? Or maybe I'm wrong? This seems super fishy like he's making a play at the pot, I would call.
Hero misplayed this hand on the flop and turn terribly. The flop 3bet is atrocious and the turn sizing needs to be polar. In fact there’s absolutely absolutely nothing unusual about how BB played it all, this is a very GTO style of play. Solvers love to x/r gutters and hidden draws on flops where opponent are range betting. Imagine if hero simply flat the cbet like he should. On that turn whether the BB barrels or not hero can comfortably pot or overbet with all his bluffs and Nutted hands.
Villain didn’t have a gutter or a hidden draw. He had the one very obvious draw. But if the solver is raising loads of gutshots/hidden draws then what’s wrong with 3-betting? 3-betting would only be a big problem vs a player who’s only check-raising sets. Also hero couldn’t flat the c-bet, hero was the one c-betting. Apart from that great comment.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj when you 3bet postflop you constrict your opponents range too much. You're essentially bluffing with AA. Obviously V's draw was hidden because hero paid it off. If anything we can consider V's draw to be balanced because he should have folded to the 3bet but I digress. When I said hero flat I misspoke, I meant the x/r.
@@ticenits1926 Hero didn't pay him off, he folded. The cutoff called and he only had like $500. He was getting like 6:1 on a call and probably just said fuck it I hope he's bluffing often enough. 67s is a very obvious draw, not hidden at all. He's the BB. He flopped an open ender. There is no other real flopped draw. Not sure where the draw was "hidden". Suited connecters that flop open enders are not considered hidden draws. If he hit a gutshot that had a backdoor flush draw that missed, that would be considered a "hidden draw". Although you could argue its "hidden" because he called on the turn when he probably should be folding with the draw, especially when you consider its possible 2 outs are dead.
@@nex8000 once again sorry, I watched this clip on my phone and when I saw the BB jam I thought hero called, not CO. Regardless V didnt have an OESD, he had a double gutter which is more disguised. An OESD would involve a consecutive runnout, such as 45 or 89 on the flop. When the draw completes the board would read 345 or 89T or 458 for example, which is easier to recognize than on an 859 runnout.
@@ticenits1926 This is not a double gutter. He is open ended. Open ended straight draws are when you have 4 cards in a row, then a 5th card can come on either end. The 4 cards of the straight he has are 5678. Which means he has an open ended straight draw (the draw is open on both ends). He can hit a 4 or a 9. There is no double gut shot on this board. Gutshots are when your card doesn't directly connect to the boards cards, but can still hit a straight by drawing to an inside card (this is also called an inside straight draw, because the cards is inside) An example of a double gutshot is as follows Flop: 345 Hand: A7 Gutshots to both the 2 and and 6. Which are both INSIDE the A and 7 a flop of K 5 8 has one open ended straight draw. Which is 67. There is ZERO double on this board. There is also ZERO double gutshots on the turn. This is an obvious draw because this falls well within the BB calling range, and its open-ended. A flop of A89 has two open ended straight draws. Which is 67 and TJ. In either case, open ended straight draws are never considered disguised draws if they are connected cards like 67 or TJ. Hands that flop open-enders with disguised hands could be considered disguised draws like 85. Button opens 85cc. BB calls A6o Flop A67cc BB checks, button bets, BB raises, button calls. Turn 9h This is a disguised draw because the button will not often have 85 in his range on this flop. So he sneaks into a straight the comes off disguised because the hand is hard to find. However if the turn was a T, and he had 89cc, the draw looks more obvious.
Gross. I'm listening and going no 9 no 4 on river. Then bam. I haven't listened to what the out come is yet. Should have pot it on turn if not 1.5 get it in good. I mean they are both showing so much strength
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LMFAO, Bart 😂
CO was reading Skalansky’s new book on break and flatted KK. Well played!
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I love that you know the spade is coming on the river just because the hand probably isn't getting called in otherwise.
One of the best calls in a while. Shoutout to Bart for giving us this valuable content !
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He meant that for sure 😅
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I don’t know if the CLP materials have a term for it, but BB’s small XR on the flop immediately smelled a lot like one of those small “pot-sweetener” raises that people make with draws. His 6 7 didn’t feel surprising until after that silly river jam.
Every time I've seen anyone cold call a flop 3 bet, it is literally almost always sets, and occasionally something like top 2. Likewise, when the BB overcalls the 3 bet, it SCREAMS 76, because you're always drawing to the nuts plus you're getting a fantastic price (unless somehow he has a set too). BB's hand is just so face up on the river when he open jams into two people.
Shouldn't BB just bet the CO's remaining stack on river to try and get two calls, getting AA,KK and other sets to fold just seems like an error and only getting called by flushes. It's almost like they are turning it into a bluff to fold out the Hero who might have weak spade or a straight, but then still has to get through CO....wild hand
Think I might over-bet turn here, given the flop action. Bet $1150 or even $1500, to give draws a bad price to chase and put max pressure on worse sets. We have enough AK in our range to get calls from sets and folds from high equity draws.
This comment is 100% result oriented. The only high equity draw is 67 of spades which would never fold and you dont want to fold worse draws, you wanna make them pay. You have no idea what you are saying and you are just a player who is terrifed of getting out drawn. But guess what, it happens.
@@pedro.gandraLOL. BB check-raised flop, repping a set, and CO overcalled, which looks like a draw. We want to get stacks in with the BB, because he's deeper. I'm fine with the CO folding a draw if it means we're more likely to scoop the whole pot, instead of having to split it when the draw comes in on the river. It's not results oriented. I'm looking at what makes the most money here, and that's getting stacks in against worse sets and folding out the draws.
@@pedro.gandraWhat's wrong with overbetting? It's a draw heavy board by the turn so you can get fish to put in way more than they should with draws, or fold out draws, or represent them as a bluff (though this is harder given hero's flop action), and on top of that, given the flop action, sets are heavily represented in the opponents' range and we want to get their money before draws come in and shut down the betting. Overbetting turn seems alright to me, but maybe I'm wrong?
I was thinking hero shoves turn here. Having the nuts with 2 draws out there (not counting combos, just straight and flush draw available) that may or may not call, and running it twice which they should agree to do
I like the limo aa kk Ak reraise technique. It is a way to get fish out or play as slow if no one raises. The raise in first position really gets you no equity when your raising $15 and your 2200 effective😊
The cutoff is someone I want in my home game
Tough one. I paused to think about it. I would call because hero should almost never have a straight or a flush here so AA is just about the top of his range and because he said BB is an action player who sometimes does weird stuff. Could he be turning naked Ks into a bluff???
Super unfortunate but a nice fold nonetheless. 💪
Best title you've come up with in a long time. Lol
Pretty sick hand.
This title was actually my dream last night
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9 Spades just Sucks
Awful river. Super unfortunate
I often think, “I’ve probably thought about all the general kinds of poker hands.” Then I go watch a Bart video.
Personally, in a home game, I am jamming the turn as an exploit. I wonder how we play AK without the king of spades on the turn?
3b flop fine... between them they can have all kinds of 97 76 rubbish... but I would 3b-fold versus most lose stakes live players
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Ugh that river card lmao. Can it get any worse? Haven't even heard the reveal yet.
I lose my money in this situation. I also would of jammed on the Turn once I hit my Set. But, shit happens. That was a Very Good lay down. Who would of thought 76??
I honestly did but also would have lost most of my money too.
After the turn, I was thinking that 7-6 of spades or 9-7 of spades were possible hands. I wasn't expecting 7-6 without the flush draw. The 9 of spades wasn't a good river card, but it did block one of the two kingless flush draws from being possible hands for either opponent.
re: limp raising, there's a vid with chris ferguson limp UTG with aces and mike matusow limps behind with QQ, limps all the way to button who raises giving ferguson the opportunity to reraise, mike shoves and cries like a baby hahaha "i knew you had aces!"
Title shouda been: "Pro gets in an Uncomfortable 3 Way with 2 Other Guys"
3 ways are usually uncomfortable to be fair
Do tell
I called the river card, 9 of spades 😂
That river I almost puked.
I don't like the turn bet size. I shove a third of the time to make undersets pay me the max, especially with AK out there. I bet just under half CO's stack a third of the time, hoping CO shoves and lets me 3-bet shove if BB just calls CO's shove. The final third of the time, I bet CO's stack size. Then CO can't raise, and if BB raises, I have the nuts and he is paying a lot to draw.
Betting over half of CO's stack prevented hero from reraising if CO shoved, plus reduced the chance of him doing it. BB could close the turn action with a call, whether or not CO shoved, instead of only being able to close the action if CO flatted.
CO did flat, but that doesn't keep me from considering hero's turn bet size to be a mistake largely due to what happens if CO instead shoves.
I would have gone all in on the turn to price out all the draws
Losing play. We have the nuts on turn we want calls
I thought Nate played this well [not a surprise]. I did agree with Bart about turn size, first thought when Nate said the ace hit was bet 6-700. While it does suck, the river is just such an obvious fold. On a random spade we can evaluate, but on a 9 or 4 of spades...I just cannot put more money in.
In other news; Bart mentioned Sklansky's new book & I did see the video going over some very strange play suggestions made by his "co-author"? His name escapes me. I definitely agreed with Bart there was some very odd stuff going on. In this video he does mention limping AA or KK though. As far as that goes, when I'm UTG [and sometimes +1] I will limp at some frequency based on how the table is playing. What I've found is that when I 4X from UTG it's often the case that no one will ever 3 bet me & also the case that I will get 4 or more callers. The truth is that when 5 or 6 people see a flop, AA is really not that strong a hand. I know this is "old school" thinking and it's sort of considered mandatory to open rather than limp now. Maybe it's because my image is somewhat nitty, but this simply works much better for me.
Agree that a random spade we could maybe call. 9/4 spades are the worst cards in the deck. Awful luck for hero.
Regards limp-reraising AA/KK from EP, do you limp-reraise any other hands for balance? Or are the players not good enough to exploit you so it doesn’t matter?
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj Depends on the table as to which hands I balance with. Usually hands like AJs and wheel pairs.
Hi nate
My first thought was to bet 1.5x pot. I really think this is a spot where we need to over-bet the turn. BB is repping 88/55/K8/K5/85 or 67 with his flop x/r. Seems like the CO has a similar range, though probably more weighted towards draws or some suited Kx holding when he calls the flop 3B behind the BB's x/r. Because AA is actually behind the BB's range, the As on the turn is just a miracle card that gives us the nuts, but also improves the equity for a hand like 67s. We can get value from all our opponents' 88/55 combos that think we've got AK, possibly get called by K8/K5, and deny equity of 67. I don't want to bet pot or less, if it's going to make either opponent think they're getting the right implied odds to call and try to out-draw us. I don't want to have to fold top set to a river jam on any spade, 9 or 4.
As for the limping in EP with premium hands - I have a limp-3B range for certain games, that includes AA/KK/AKs/A5s. Especially in 1/3 games with a $500 cap and a standard open size of $15, where the SPR of 3B's and 4B's is often such that a 4B is just a jam. I'd rather limp-3B from EP than open my usual range and try to figure out if I want to get pot-committed when facing a 3B from LP.
Like, if I open UTG to $15, and get 3-4 callers, it's terrible. If someone 3B's, the 3B size is going to be at least $45, making the standard 4B size of 3x more than 30% of a $500 stack. I'd rather open limp, see some over-limps, see someone raise to $25-$30 from MP-LP, see 1 or 2 players cold-call the raise, then put in a 5x-6x 3B from UTG, to put max pressure on the MP/LP opener's wider range.
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The Big Blind was NOT getting the proper pot odds, correct?
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Sick call. Good to see how pros play. Aa laydown etc. Everyone's commentating. Basically irrelevant. You're listening to two pros discuss a hand
These two villains are straight out of microstakes. Calling along with a straight draw, not raising, but also just not ever folding. I'm going to bet the guy who mucked with a King showing had K5. He will keep calling along bc why ever fold two pair?
SPICY!!
The CO had Kx. Probably KQ the most likely, but I'd almost stake my life his unshown card was not 2pair or a set. Competent players still seem to have trouble understanding WHY these people do the things they do. Here is the Cutoff's inner monologue....
Flop: Yes! top pair! Oh my raising and lost of it, eh they're probably just both raising to see where the other one is at. No one raises sets or 2 pair on flops that don't have flush draws, I'm gonna win lots of moniez!
Turn: FML! I am so unlucky, this is an unjust travesty that I am going to lose this pot. Oh it's my turn to act? Well If I fold I lose this pot, which is unjust, and I hate losing, I call.
River: Oh well, it's only $500 more whatever I call, ugh 67???... he was behind both on the flop and on the turn! I will show them my King so he understands how lucky he got, and how I really had no choice, and I'm not a bad player or anything, better not let him see the other card though, that one one won't help, ehhhh maybe I am a bad player, but hopefully this King will fool them alright, the other one could be anything after all :/
Yeah I’d imagine if CO had AK/KK (or some other ridiculous two pair) he’d have shown both cards. KQ feels plausible.
I tried to come up with a rationale for CO calling turn and river, but I couldn't do it. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like calling turn with the K of spades specifically seems really bad, because it rules out opponents drawing to the nut flush, making it more likely they have made hands that beat Kx.
@@1vailchris Think the rationale is just entitlement tilt.
@@JMTavares7 if memory serves, you're the one who introduced me to that term, in the comments under that OMC vs OMC hand.
@@1vailchris Haha I don't remember who introduced me, but I think it's something we're all subject to, to some extent.
This title has to be on purpose
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This is weird because what I'm thinking on the river here before I finish the video is why would the BB jam? Even if he thinks that hero is going to check, there's little chance that the CO will check too, so if he did hit his straight or flush here on the river, he should look to check raise instead I would think? Or maybe I'm wrong? This seems super fishy like he's making a play at the pot, I would call.
The CO is so short there's really no point in check raising.
Hero misplayed this hand on the flop and turn terribly. The flop 3bet is atrocious and the turn sizing needs to be polar. In fact there’s absolutely absolutely nothing unusual about how BB played it all, this is a very GTO style of play. Solvers love to x/r gutters and hidden draws on flops where opponent are range betting.
Imagine if hero simply flat the cbet like he should. On that turn whether the BB barrels or not hero can comfortably pot or overbet with all his bluffs and Nutted hands.
Villain didn’t have a gutter or a hidden draw. He had the one very obvious draw.
But if the solver is raising loads of gutshots/hidden draws then what’s wrong with 3-betting? 3-betting would only be a big problem vs a player who’s only check-raising sets.
Also hero couldn’t flat the c-bet, hero was the one c-betting.
Apart from that great comment.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj when you 3bet postflop you constrict your opponents range too much. You're essentially bluffing with AA. Obviously V's draw was hidden because hero paid it off. If anything we can consider V's draw to be balanced because he should have folded to the 3bet but I digress.
When I said hero flat I misspoke, I meant the x/r.
@@ticenits1926 Hero didn't pay him off, he folded. The cutoff called and he only had like $500. He was getting like 6:1 on a call and probably just said fuck it I hope he's bluffing often enough. 67s is a very obvious draw, not hidden at all. He's the BB. He flopped an open ender. There is no other real flopped draw. Not sure where the draw was "hidden". Suited connecters that flop open enders are not considered hidden draws. If he hit a gutshot that had a backdoor flush draw that missed, that would be considered a "hidden draw". Although you could argue its "hidden" because he called on the turn when he probably should be folding with the draw, especially when you consider its possible 2 outs are dead.
@@nex8000 once again sorry, I watched this clip on my phone and when I saw the BB jam I thought hero called, not CO. Regardless V didnt have an OESD, he had a double gutter which is more disguised. An OESD would involve a consecutive runnout, such as 45 or 89 on the flop. When the draw completes the board would read 345 or 89T or 458 for example, which is easier to recognize than on an 859 runnout.
@@ticenits1926 This is not a double gutter. He is open ended. Open ended straight draws are when you have 4 cards in a row, then a 5th card can come on either end. The 4 cards of the straight he has are 5678. Which means he has an open ended straight draw (the draw is open on both ends). He can hit a 4 or a 9. There is no double gut shot on this board.
Gutshots are when your card doesn't directly connect to the boards cards, but can still hit a straight by drawing to an inside card (this is also called an inside straight draw, because the cards is inside)
An example of a double gutshot is as follows
Flop: 345
Hand: A7
Gutshots to both the 2 and and 6. Which are both INSIDE the A and 7
a flop of K 5 8 has one open ended straight draw. Which is 67. There is ZERO double on this board. There is also ZERO double gutshots on the turn. This is an obvious draw because this falls well within the BB calling range, and its open-ended.
A flop of A89 has two open ended straight draws. Which is 67 and TJ. In either case, open ended straight draws are never considered disguised draws if they are connected cards like 67 or TJ. Hands that flop open-enders with disguised hands could be considered disguised draws like 85.
Button opens 85cc.
BB calls A6o
Flop A67cc
BB checks, button bets, BB raises, button calls.
Turn 9h
This is a disguised draw because the button will not often have 85 in his range on this flop. So he sneaks into a straight the comes off disguised because the hand is hard to find. However if the turn was a T, and he had 89cc, the draw looks more obvious.
Was really disappointed when I found out this was a call in video…
Gross. I'm listening and going no 9 no 4 on river. Then bam. I haven't listened to what the out come is yet. Should have pot it on turn if not 1.5 get it in good. I mean they are both showing so much strength
Sickest river ever lollll. Literally the worst card in the deck
Set up hand guys
You missed “NSFW” in the title.
Private game? Id say its rigged then. Dont trust private games.