The WeldTube adapter is kinda nice considering you don't have to cut the front of your hood. But I don't like how it mounts. The little clips that hold it on become loose and the attachment starts to fall off from the hood on one side or the other when you're looking down, causing it to allow light in. I just tightened them and clamped them down with pliers. It is convenient if you just need to throw one on and don't want to modify the hood though.
I tried the Sellstrom on my helmet quite a while back and the biggest problem was how much it stuck into the helmet. It literally was touching my nose. I ended up with a standard flip front Fibre Metal helmet and love the way it fits. The simple head gear works better then any of the fancy stuff I have tried.
Amen, we have $345 Lincoln electric auto darkening welding hoods where I teach, you can't just buy head gear or clearlenses from anywhere they got to be Lincoln, they break easy too many parts 2x4 regular lenses don't work, I took 2 Fibre metal flip scoops, kids Love them, flip and grind or buff, faces are protected, comfortable, weld better, for way better price, easy to adjust, that's from my students
@robertgalaviz1159 100% agree I just splurged on a lincoln 2450adv and not overly impressed maybe just me being to stoopid to use I always forget to go back to weld mode after grinding.. But with a flipper I'll never forget
ive owned both as well i use weldtube daily glad they beefed up there clips my first one clip broke so i broke otherside n superglued worked perfect never melted off ncase ur wondering the new one is great just cant toss it in the back anymore have to place down … great video 🤙🏼
I just got my weld tube flip adapter and I love it! if they can make one for the pancake that would be great. I added a miller or Jackson one to my pancake and it's just really heavy and uncomfortable on the nose.
I dig the weld tube I’m not big on having to hack up my helmet I might look into that kinda funny as a fabricator I hate to modify my stuff 😂 when I literally do that for a living
I have the sellstrom as well on my sugar scoop. The extra wieght is noticeable but the worst thin with mine is the clear lens retainer inside the helmet keeps breaking and will barely hold the inside plate in. They are cheap and to get a new one you have to purchase the whole kit again. Last one was about 50 bucks now.
That sellstrom adapter is actually replacement parts for their 280 series helmet I'm actually getting ready to buy one of their 290 series helmets this will be my second one of those I really like them
Structural welder here , I’ve been using the weld tube adapter for the past 2 years , from job bins , 30ft drops , left in the rain and more and I’d choose it over the sellstorm any day , . What I would really like to see next is solid lenses comparison !!! Weld tube aqua lense , a regular solid lense and I’ve even heard there are orange and red lense! I weld a lot and heard the gold plated ones on the front reduced some eye fatigue, can anyone attest to that ? I also have another hood , the digital elite with x mode and still run to my sugar scoop with the weld tube adapter.
It’s good to know that the adaptor is so durable. I’m definitely liking it so far. Oh and I did just make a lens comparison video, check it out. I haven’t tried out a whole lot of lenses yet but I compared the 6 that I own. Thanks for commenting
@Tony Jerry Im all for constructive criticism and open discussion but if you are going to give negative comments without being respectful or at least providing the community with some sort of explanation on why you feel that way then your comment is worthless.
I’ve used both and I honestly now just don’t like flip fronts. The weld tube one feels really cheap and also my welding lens has fallen out of the flip front when I flipped it up before. The sellstrom feels nicer but is just way too heavy but now I just used a non flip front sugar scoop
Thanks for the comment. I’ve been putting this adapter to some heavy use and I definitely want to make a follow up video. Multiple people have said their lens fell out. Hasn’t happened to me… yet
If you want to Shield that doesn't weigh a ton that pipeliner is going to weigh 10 lb on your head once you put one of those install flip lenses in it go get you a port of shell baby for the shell online I think it's Northern Tool but it's a port of shell or a port of shell baby weighs half the white then this thing's going to White when he puts that lens in it
First and foremost, perfect video. Thanks for doing this. I agree with you, that weldtube is much better. I myself only use passive helmets and have been dabbing into many different types. I use the Foroney Bandit III as of now. The lid is comfortable but my major issue is the front flip opens when looking down. So I bought small 🧲 's to lock it in place with crazy glue lol it works.. I'm still on the look out for that 1 gem of a passive helmet, somthing that will blow me away with style and all round comfort.
Sellstrom retaining spring is garbage. Mine broke but before that... the spring is so weak and not evenly distributed that your lens and cover lenses rattle around allowing dust and junk to get on your actual lense. The side slot is also where tons of dust gets in and ends up on your actual lens somehow. Plus its unsafe pulling your lens back out of the slot once you have used the hood welding for months as grinding splatter that made it around the opening slot can scratch your lense. As a result i keep the lens inaide the flip feont and slide out the spring then do each lens cover and put it back together. With the normal fiber metal pipeliner i have nevwr got scratches or dust on my lens because you sandwhich them together like the weld tube. If the clips on the weld tube suck and can fail they should have jusg designed it to be riveted onto the pipeliner. And if you got sick of it just rivet the holes back up and your helmet is back to normal again. The weld tube is 100$ in canada which is bs... you cna buy a flip front helmet for the same price but it would have the same issues i discussed above.
Hey, thank you for an awesome review. I have one question though. Does WeldTube's adapter flick down easily? That is, can you flick it down just by nodding your head, or do you have to use your hand? I ask because people said you can' flick Sellstrom
I do have a weldtube flip up and like it but I will say when I was working at a power plant and going all over the place making welds I had my hood on my bad and I guess it was getting bumper a little and the clear lens that holds the flip up on popped out of one of the sides and I almost lost my lens and flip up and I use a could of extra things being it now to try and help keep it from falling out but since then I don't trust it and also on weight I feel that when you compared the weight you should have included the difference after the hood would be getting the material cut out so it might be closer but other than that great video
Man that’s a really good question. Haven’t thought of that. I think if you use a fixed lens and don’t use the gasket I believe it will fit. Not really sure about using an auto to be honest.
I've had the same thing. The issue is the inside of the clips to hold the adapter in place actually has a spot for a clear lens to snap in. The pressure from the clear lens fixes the issue
Do not recommend weld tubes flip up adapter at all if you want to break an expensive piece of glass the plastic retaining clip if just too flimsy and the metal clips will slide off had to mash them in with pliers to stay on but after a while the get loose and start to slide out again letting light in also with the retaining clip it it needs some re designing and extra security if just those two slots are what’s keeping it in place
I have the sellstrom and I definitely get the Lincoln 4c shade in with two clear protective lenses and the third for grinding. Idk how you haven’t figured that out.
My question is why do all this when you can just buy a tiger hood made by the same company that makes the sugar scoop hoods, that’s basically the same thing with a factory flip up (literally identical from the bottom of the lens up) just a little longer but easy to trim to desired neck length.. also almost half the price as that pipeliner hood..
That’s a good question. I have a tiger hood myself and I love it. I would think having a fiber glass hood would be better for those who do a lot of position and overhead welds vs the plastic tiger hood. Haven’t used the tiger hood long enough to confirm that but based on what I see so far the tiger hood seems like it will burn up faster. Maybe warp from a lot of heat idk.
@@Parttimeweld I’m a pipe fitter/welder by trade and my tiger hoods held up fine for the last 2 years of every day use but I’ve also never owned a sugar scoop to know if there really is any benefit to the FG over plastic. Mine does have quite a few pits melted into it but so far nothings burned through or warped. Honestly thought they were the same material. Those were my 2 reasons for buying it, tiger was $40 when I bought it and a pipe liner was running nearly $100 then and I wanted a flip front regardless of whichever I bought.
@@All-things-shitbox I absolutely agree. I’m glad your tigerhood is holding up for that long because I absolutely love it. Thanks for your comment and honestly. I want to make a video on that hood in the near future. This information helps!
I totally get where you are coming from and I myself am running the tiger for my combo. I would like to do away with it though do to the heavy weight and this review is certainly pertains to what I'm looking for to make a decision on a carbon fiber sugar scoop. I wish actually someone would come out with a tiger lid or varient of the sugar scoop to fit a respirator that was carbon fiber that would solve everything in most cases. A sugar scoop doesn't give much room for a respirator when attached to a hard hat. The tiger is more awkward in tight areas but holds up to heavy gouging and welding. The right hood is almost as important as the right type of stinger.
Their website says it’s for the pipeliner sugar scoop so I’d assume no. But it also says, “Adapter may fit other similar hoods that have the same 2” x 4-1/4” viewing box.” I don’t own a pancake or ever used one so I can’t say.
ArcOne makes fantastic auto lenses. I’ve been using the 240HD for years and have never had a problem with it. I just baby it when I swap clears so I don’t scratch it 😂
@@Parttimeweld Well, newer helmets have features such as dimming level adjustment, time delay and grinding toggle. The prices are very reasonable with 100 to 200 bucks.
You’re absolutely right. For most people a hood like that is perfectly fine. But some need to wear a pipeliner style hood. This video is meant for all to explore but targeted to those who have this hood.
Thanks for your review brother!
That’s awesome! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Love your guys videos!
Do you have a flip up that works for a pancake hood
@@giannigermani1999 they don’t.
Weld tubes front flip adapter doesn’t fit a Lincoln 4C auto lense which is very frustrating
Finally someone making the type of content we need
I appreciate that man! Thanks for watching.
Yes sir first time viewer on your channel you should maybe do one next on the types of auto darkening lenses 👌🏼
@@luisgarcia6739 Thanks for the suggestion! Really helps when people throw ideas out like that.
The WeldTube adapter is kinda nice considering you don't have to cut the front of your hood. But I don't like how it mounts. The little clips that hold it on become loose and the attachment starts to fall off from the hood on one side or the other when you're looking down, causing it to allow light in. I just tightened them and clamped them down with pliers. It is convenient if you just need to throw one on and don't want to modify the hood though.
I’ve had the sellstrom for years, I prefer welding with no flip front but in the field it makes life alot easier
I tried the Sellstrom on my helmet quite a while back and the biggest problem was how much it stuck into the helmet. It literally was touching my nose. I ended up with a standard flip front Fibre Metal helmet and love the way it fits. The simple head gear works better then any of the fancy stuff I have tried.
Thanks for the comment. I just got me a Fabre metal front flip hood as well and loving it so far!
Amen, we have $345 Lincoln electric auto darkening welding hoods where I teach, you can't just buy head gear or clearlenses from anywhere they got to be Lincoln, they break easy too many parts 2x4 regular lenses don't work, I took 2 Fibre metal flip scoops, kids Love them, flip and grind or buff, faces are protected, comfortable, weld better, for way better price, easy to adjust, that's from my students
@robertgalaviz1159 100% agree I just splurged on a lincoln 2450adv and not overly impressed maybe just me being to stoopid to use I always forget to go back to weld mode after grinding..
But with a flipper I'll never forget
Just ordered my weld tube lens !Thanks for the info!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Let me know how you like it.
I liked the weldtube one alot. Sadly after 6 months it doesnt stay on anymore. Just bought a sellstrom for something more long term.
ive owned both as well i use weldtube daily glad they beefed up there clips my first one clip broke so i broke otherside n superglued worked perfect never melted off ncase ur wondering the new one is great just cant toss it in the back anymore have to place down … great video 🤙🏼
I appreciate that! I’m glad the glue worked and doesn’t melt
I just got my weld tube flip adapter and I love it! if they can make one for the pancake that would be great. I added a miller or Jackson one to my pancake and it's just really heavy and uncomfortable on the nose.
Excellent review! I’m buying one for each hood 🤙🏼
I really appreciate that! And thanks for watching!
I dig the weld tube I’m not big on having to hack up my helmet I might look into that kinda funny as a fabricator I hate to modify my stuff 😂 when I literally do that for a living
I have the sellstrom as well on my sugar scoop. The extra wieght is noticeable but the worst thin with mine is the clear lens retainer inside the helmet keeps breaking and will barely hold the inside plate in. They are cheap and to get a new one you have to purchase the whole kit again. Last one was about 50 bucks now.
Buy a stainless one from castle weld shop and you will never buy another
That sellstrom adapter is actually replacement parts for their 280 series helmet I'm actually getting ready to buy one of their 290 series helmets this will be my second one of those I really like them
Just ordered the weld tube adapter we will see how it goes.
I noticed pipeliners cloud is selling the weld tube flip adapter. Those carbon fiber helmets with a weld tube flip adapter …. Sweeeet.
I’m curious too see if they are noticeably lighter
Nice video, Just what I was looking for. Thx 🙏🏻
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching
Structural welder here , I’ve been using the weld tube adapter for the past 2 years , from job bins , 30ft drops , left in the rain and more and I’d choose it over the sellstorm any day , . What I would really like to see next is solid lenses comparison !!! Weld tube aqua lense , a regular solid lense and I’ve even heard there are orange and red lense! I weld a lot and heard the gold plated ones on the front reduced some eye fatigue, can anyone attest to that ? I also have another hood , the digital elite with x mode and still run to my sugar scoop with the weld tube adapter.
It’s good to know that the adaptor is so durable. I’m definitely liking it so far. Oh and I did just make a lens comparison video, check it out. I haven’t tried out a whole lot of lenses yet but I compared the 6 that I own. Thanks for commenting
@Tony Jerry Im all for constructive criticism and open discussion but if you are going to give negative comments without being respectful or at least providing the community with some sort of explanation on why you feel that way then your comment is worthless.
@tonyjerry7258 sounds like he's used it for 2 years longer than you have
The best gold lens I've ever used is a Phillips gold. Hands down best lens on the market when it comes to clarity
Some of the gold lenses I have used in my hood have made me see double. Not sure if that's happened to anyone else.
I’ve used both and I honestly now just don’t like flip fronts. The weld tube one feels really cheap and also my welding lens has fallen out of the flip front when I flipped it up before. The sellstrom feels nicer but is just way too heavy but now I just used a non flip front sugar scoop
Thanks for the comment. I’ve been putting this adapter to some heavy use and I definitely want to make a follow up video. Multiple people have said their lens fell out. Hasn’t happened to me… yet
If you want to Shield that doesn't weigh a ton that pipeliner is going to weigh 10 lb on your head once you put one of those install flip lenses in it go get you a port of shell baby for the shell online I think it's Northern Tool but it's a port of shell or a port of shell baby weighs half the white then this thing's going to White when he puts that lens in it
Does anyone know why they say the weld tube lens adapter doesn’t work with the finer pipeliner hood?
First and foremost, perfect video.
Thanks for doing this. I agree with you, that weldtube is much better.
I myself only use passive helmets and have been dabbing into many different types.
I use the Foroney Bandit III as of now. The lid is comfortable but my major issue is the front flip opens when looking down. So I bought small 🧲 's to lock it in place with crazy glue lol it works..
I'm still on the look out for that 1 gem of a passive helmet, somthing that will blow me away with style and all round comfort.
Sellstrom retaining spring is garbage. Mine broke but before that... the spring is so weak and not evenly distributed that your lens and cover lenses rattle around allowing dust and junk to get on your actual lense. The side slot is also where tons of dust gets in and ends up on your actual lens somehow. Plus its unsafe pulling your lens back out of the slot once you have used the hood welding for months as grinding splatter that made it around the opening slot can scratch your lense. As a result i keep the lens inaide the flip feont and slide out the spring then do each lens cover and put it back together. With the normal fiber metal pipeliner i have nevwr got scratches or dust on my lens because you sandwhich them together like the weld tube. If the clips on the weld tube suck and can fail they should have jusg designed it to be riveted onto the pipeliner. And if you got sick of it just rivet the holes back up and your helmet is back to normal again. The weld tube is 100$ in canada which is bs... you cna buy a flip front helmet for the same price but it would have the same issues i discussed above.
Be careful with the sellstorm because after a couple of months it starts to not close all the way and letting light in
Hey, thank you for an awesome review. I have one question though. Does WeldTube's adapter flick down easily? That is, can you flick it down just by nodding your head, or do you have to use your hand? I ask because people said you can' flick Sellstrom
I have the same hood down to the fasteners on the side
Nice what lens do you run?
Great video man.
I really appreciate that man. Thanks for watching!
I do have a weldtube flip up and like it but I will say when I was working at a power plant and going all over the place making welds I had my hood on my bad and I guess it was getting bumper a little and the clear lens that holds the flip up on popped out of one of the sides and I almost lost my lens and flip up and I use a could of extra things being it now to try and help keep it from falling out but since then I don't trust it and also on weight I feel that when you compared the weight you should have included the difference after the hood would be getting the material cut out so it might be closer but other than that great video
Hey thanks for the comment and suggestion. I’m glad you mentioned that happening to your flip adapter. That’s really good to know.
@Part Time my bad on the spelling I don't notice my phone auto correcting and ot backfires sometimes lol
@@mterrazas145 lol I figured it was auto correct or you had a few 🍻
We use glass clear lenses... will they work in the weltube version
On the weld tube , can I put my cheater lens in the hood ?
Man that’s a really good question. Haven’t thought of that. I think if you use a fixed lens and don’t use the gasket I believe it will fit. Not really sure about using an auto to be honest.
Cheaters will fit
had bad luck with the weldtube. it would pop out from time
What do you mean by pop out? Like the lens?
I've had the same thing. The issue is the inside of the clips to hold the adapter in place actually has a spot for a clear lens to snap in. The pressure from the clear lens fixes the issue
@@ryankurschat6061 thanks for clarifying that. Yes you are right about the clear lens.
Do not recommend weld tubes flip up adapter at all if you want to break an expensive piece of glass the plastic retaining clip if just too flimsy and the metal clips will slide off had to mash them in with pliers to stay on but after a while the get loose and start to slide out again letting light in also with the retaining clip it it needs some re designing and extra security if just those two slots are what’s keeping it in place
I have the sellstrom and I definitely get the Lincoln 4c shade in with two clear protective lenses and the third for grinding. Idk how you haven’t figured that out.
Then make a video on it. Share some knowledge. Idk how you haven’t figured that out.
@@Parttimeweld coming right up.
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There ya go big daddy!
@@Parttimeweld that video ok?
Why not just try the welding helmet below. It is under 1pound and lens is flush with helmet front.
Where did you get the helmet knobs
What size lens does the weldlife one use
Does the weld tube adapter fit on a pancake hood?
More content!!!! ❤❤
Lol thanks man! Let me know if you have any video ideas. Thanks for watching!
My question is why do all this when you can just buy a tiger hood made by the same company that makes the sugar scoop hoods, that’s basically the same thing with a factory flip up (literally identical from the bottom of the lens up) just a little longer but easy to trim to desired neck length.. also almost half the price as that pipeliner hood..
That’s a good question. I have a tiger hood myself and I love it. I would think having a fiber glass hood would be better for those who do a lot of position and overhead welds vs the plastic tiger hood. Haven’t used the tiger hood long enough to confirm that but based on what I see so far the tiger hood seems like it will burn up faster. Maybe warp from a lot of heat idk.
@@Parttimeweld I’m a pipe fitter/welder by trade and my tiger hoods held up fine for the last 2 years of every day use but I’ve also never owned a sugar scoop to know if there really is any benefit to the FG over plastic. Mine does have quite a few pits melted into it but so far nothings burned through or warped. Honestly thought they were the same material. Those were my 2 reasons for buying it, tiger was $40 when I bought it and a pipe liner was running nearly $100 then and I wanted a flip front regardless of whichever I bought.
@@All-things-shitbox I absolutely agree. I’m glad your tigerhood is holding up for that long because I absolutely love it. Thanks for your comment and honestly. I want to make a video on that hood in the near future. This information helps!
I totally get where you are coming from and I myself am running the tiger for my combo. I would like to do away with it though do to the heavy weight and this review is certainly pertains to what I'm looking for to make a decision on a carbon fiber sugar scoop. I wish actually someone would come out with a tiger lid or varient of the sugar scoop to fit a respirator that was carbon fiber that would solve everything in most cases. A sugar scoop doesn't give much room for a respirator when attached to a hard hat. The tiger is more awkward in tight areas but holds up to heavy gouging and welding. The right hood is almost as important as the right type of stinger.
Can this flip up work on a pancake from Weld tube
Their website says it’s for the pipeliner sugar scoop so I’d assume no. But it also says, “Adapter may fit other similar hoods that have the same 2” x 4-1/4” viewing box.” I don’t own a pancake or ever used one so I can’t say.
I don’t think this can fit a pancake. I heard u can only use this for a sugar scoop
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Hee what auto darkening lens do you use
I have the tradesman by arcone. Around $60 on Amazon. Thanks for commenting!
ArcOne makes fantastic auto lenses. I’ve been using the 240HD for years and have never had a problem with it. I just baby it when I swap clears so I don’t scratch it 😂
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Be smart just buy a brand new Honeywell Fibre metal 906GY flip lens hood $57 Amazon and done
And yet i'd rather use a newer helmet like Bolle Volt or similar
Thanks for commenting. Please explain. Lots of people read to comments to hear different opinions including myself. I’d love to hear why.
@@Parttimeweld Well, newer helmets have features such as dimming level adjustment, time delay and grinding toggle. The prices are very reasonable with 100 to 200 bucks.
You’re absolutely right. For most people a hood like that is perfectly fine. But some need to wear a pipeliner style hood. This video is meant for all to explore but targeted to those who have this hood.
Learn how to weld and you don't have to grind .lol.
You’re gonna have to grind at some point. Mistakes happen. Maybe you need to use a cutting wheel too.
Wrong nobody is a welder we are all grinders and buffers
Grind before each restart..
Wire bush before each weld
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