My Life with SEGA - Saturn Video CD
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- The celebration on Saturn continues as Andrew Rosa takes a look back on the Video CD format, and the VCD movie card available for SEGA's 32-bit powerhouse.
In addition, you'll get a brief glimpse at his VCD collection, as well as the Dreammovie VCD player for SEGA Dreamcast. If you've been wanting a "crash course" on the Video CD format and how it all works with our beloved Saturn, look no further.
Want a VCD copy of My Life with SEGA: No Limits? Send an email to segabits@gmail.com with "no limits vcd" in the subject line, and a mailing address in the body. The VCD will ship the day after receiving a request. Unfortunately, I cannot provide a SEGA CD/Saturn case. It will be the disc with custom artwork in a nice paper sleeve, similar to Digital Picture titles.
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That is DC VCD playback system: DreamVCD Player
Now it is still available in China.
MaximumRD A.J. here - Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. The VCD format fascinates me for some reason, and - of course - I love Saturn. I think it would have been interesting had SEGA marketed the VCD card and select films here in the states, but I'm guessing it would have bombed like the PSP movie discs.
Though I never collected VCD I like all tech, I did keep an eye on the format, from CDi to CD32, funny enough the VCD / MPEG module for the Commodore AMIGA CD32 console was actually directly compatible with the Phillips CD-i Digital Video CDs (at least on a hardware level if not directly fitting. I had heard it had something to do with Phillips earlier bad mouthing the CD32 in comparison to their multimedia
wonder machine the "CD-i" lol) I forget the full details but the compatibility was basically Commodores way of snubbing Phillips. It was all inconsequential since Commodore went bankrupt anyway but I tell you something, of course this all being before DVD's, I was just fascinated with movies on optical discs, sure they did not hold a lot of data with movies sometimes consisting of multiple discs and sure the over all quality may not have been much better then say VHS BUT DAMN IT WAS VIDEO PLAYING OF A DISC ! Digital Video had arrived! Now, I was too poor back in the days anyway but one memory I have was walking into a small computer shop in Scarborough they actually had a CD32 on display (this was rare enough, Commodore / Amiga products were not exactly abundant here in Canada during the CD32 time) and they even had the VCD/ Mpeg module hooked up to it (they did not make a lot of these and they are rare a and pricey on Ebays these days) and of course they were playing a VCD title, it was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home hooked up to a large rear projection TV. It was an impossibility for me back in those days but I have no doubt if I had the money I'd have bought the whole package right then and there thinking THIS was the future of movies lol.
MaximumRD A.J. here - Holy shit! I was only aware of the Commodore 64 up until now. Had no idea they had released a 32-bit CD console. After reading up on it a bit I understand why. It's a real shame the CD32 didn't receive a US release because it sounds interesting. The setup you described reminds me very much of Incredible Universe. It was a gigantic electronics store that focused mainly on home video, gaming, PC and stereo sales. They used to have this huge game room where you could actually sit down in a nice comfy couch and try the new consoles. That was how I played Jaguar, CD-i and 3DO. Such a great place. It was later bought out by Fry's and went to shit from there.
SEGAbits
I remember playing Pirates! Gold on it
Pirates! Gold for the Commodore Amiga CD32 (Part 1/2)
in a store. Fun as hell.
SEGAbits The Amiga CD32 actually did got released in a few selected areas only though, Well mostly Canada I've heard and it was thru a special mail-order you could import it from back in the day ;-)
As for the VCD capabilities you listed that were on consoles you've listed, I'm surprised you'd haven't added Nintendo 64's CD64 backup unit (of course the reason being it was a unlicensed product from Hong Kong manufacturer Bing Enterprise i believe they were called) but it's cool tho and great video as always A.J Rosa! :-D
A.J. here - Imported, yes. Some stores imported and sold them, but the CD32 wasn't officially launched here.
As for the CD64, I hadn't heard of it until your comment. LOL! I just did some research on it, because I was surprised it didn't come up when I was collecting info for this video. Come to find out, VCD playback wasn't available inititally according to "icequake.net". The AV outport is there, but the MPEG hadn't been developed yet.
Do you have this unit? If so, how do you like it? Is it worth the hefty price-tag?
Awesomeness didn’t know about the Dreamcast ability to play vcd format . Will have to give that a try. Thanks a lot for the wonderful video.
I'm in singapore and I have a lot of vcds I don't own a Saturn but a DVD player plays vcds too
You can get a bit more mileage out of the VCD card if you collect stuff like the Sega Partner's promotional Mogitate Sega Saturn discs or the multimedia "games" that feature cute girls, pop stars, idols and what not. It's not always a sure thing that they'll work with the VCD card, but since most of these discs are mainly just video, quite a few do take advantage of it.
Saturn Memories A.J. here - I've tried getting my hands those after watching some of your vids, but they tend to be a little pricy. More then I'd be willing to spend at least.
SEGAbits Just depends what it is. Some can be had for little to nothing while others cost you an arm and a leg. I'll be dumping some of the Mogitate videos with English subs later this month. Keep your eyes open. They're good stuffs. :)
Saturn Memories A.J. here - I'm already looking forward to the vids. :)
You don't have to restrict yourself to only playing officially supported Saturn games and legally official VCD releases. You can get an infinite mileage out of the VCD card by making your own VCDs with whatever video content you want on it. 😁 I make those as well as custom DVDs for people all the time with ANY video content they want on it.
Great video matey! I remember the dodgy stores selling tons of VCD movies during that era in Australia. Funny how quickly it phases out.
Those phased out quickly because the source videos that they used to make those VCDs were utter crap. If you use a video source that is of higher quality than a VCD, such as DVD or Bluray, to make a VCD disc, the video will look SOOOO much better. I can make VCDs that look almost as good a a DVD, which look much better than actual official VCDs released.
I've actually had a couple of DVD players with VCD support, it was always really neat! One was part of one of those TV/DVD combos, the other (which I think I still have somewhere but haven't unpacked yet) is just standalone. VLC's a nice way of playing these discs back, though.
Also I was fortunate enough to find a burnable Dreamcast VCD player that _doesn't_ rely on external hardware.
Yes :). I remember buying a bunch of vcds in Malaysia 10 years ago. It was hysterical. They were all pirated and had made up titles, like Gladiator 3, and contained cam versions of asian movies. But they cost next to nothing
A.J. here - You've been to Malaysia? So envious. I'd certainly like to visit. I found some VCD when I went to Philly's Chinatown, but the shop only accepted cash. :(
SEGAbits Yeah, It's great, except for the flight time. They seem to have no copyright laws there, and everything is inexpensive . Bought a bunch of rolexes and
lacoste shirts along with my vcds and ps2 games. Must have looked like a jerk :)
Mrmys1900 A.J. here - Nah. Simply a consumer that appreciates a good value. I'd probably do the same thing.
If your DC VCD boot disc is still scratched, I can repair it with my ELM Eco Smart machine.
I know the v CD format was before DVD and I have the vcd attachment for my and it will run vcd movies and even DVD movies converted to vcd format but will the Sega Saturn run vcd movies
Wow, very well done, informative and interesting (well to me at least) thanks for the great video.
does the ActionReplay get around the region lock on the VCD card? I have one installed in my American Saturn, and not sure if it functions.
UserNameMandatory Yes! I use it as well!
I LOVE VCD!! You have a movie on VCD!? How can I get a copy?
The only downside of the VCD is that not all Saturn FMVs like the ones in Sonic R or the Mega Man games don't actually get the VCD quality treatment
Yeah that was quite disappointing. I almost bought a VCD card for Super Adventure Rockman back in 1999. Then I realized the game didn't support it ,so I never bought one.
Here I am finding this video as I deep dive into Saturn stuff in 2022 and I gotta ask, did you ever get that Dreamcast disk going? I have a professional disk buffer and can probably at least get a rip of it to re-burn a copy if you need
do you still need that DreamVCD Player boot disc?
God, what is that music playing in the background!? Ive heard it before...
Any anime titles on Video CD? Does this VCD thing for Saturn work with the American models?
More anime on VCD then anime on DVD!!
yeah there is anime...(hentai)
There are more movies, anime, TV shows, and music videos on VCD than in any other format because CDs are cheap. Though in the USA it's not common to find these in stores. You can also make your own VCDs. I make them all the time for people with whatever video content they want on the disc and they love it.
@@ThexthSurvivor VCDs were common in the Philippines (my country).
@@DennisTamayo Yes, you're right. I heard they were super popular in Asian regions and some areas of Europe. I live in the USA and it's been about 20 years or so since I've seen any for sale here. The best place to get them are online websites or create your own. I make high quality VCDs by sourcing HD content and giving the VCDs menus. Looks great, better than VHS, almost as good as DVD, but not as good as Bluray. It also sounds as good as a DVD and better than the audio quality of UA-cam.
The US version of GunGriffon still has the MPEG video on the disk, but doesn't detect the card.
I wish more games utilized this feature. VCDs are nice and all, and can be a nice conversation piece, but in this day and age they are quite pointless. My JVC card hasn't seen any use for over a decade now.
Still - one of these days I'll have to track down all the games that use the MPEG card just because.
A.J. here - Really? I didn't know.
I still use my VCD card a bit. I'll make "workprint" versions of my projects and run them on the Saturn. On top of that, whenever I travel I like taking my Saturn, so the few movies I do have will get some play. Like you, I'd like to get my hands on some VCD-enabled games just for the Hell of it.
SEGAbits I love my Saturn, so there was a time when I'd encode a VCD just for the hell of it. BTW - went and got the japanese Gungriffon - that was pretty cheap...
darkfalzx A.J. here - Hahaha! Awesome! How is Gungriffon anyway? I've never played it. If I did, the memory got erased.
SEGAbits GunGriffon wasn't great. It's a mission-based mech sim fairly typical for that period, though obviously simplified for the console controls. In a way it's a lot like a first-person Desert Strike.
Your mech has a jump and a high-mobility mode - something like its feet turning into rollerskates, but I think this ability drains your fuel a lot faster and makes the mech handle more like a car.
The graphics were mildly impressive for the time due to a clever mix of polygons and sprites, and even alpha effects. Once that wears of, though - the game becomes very monotonous.
darkfalzx A.J. here - Hmmm. Would you say it's better than Metal Head on 32X? LOL!
How about going to a game store and let them get your CD resurfaced
I love your videos. Only discovered you tonight. How is that possible? Anyways, keep it up!
do you need to bypass region coding for this to work? My Saturn's cartridge port doesn't work
As far as I am aware, as long as the VCD card is the same region video format as the Saturn, it will work. The European VCD card will only work on European Saturns because it's PAL, and Japanse and American Saturns are NTSC. What happened to your cart port?
Hello, nice video, thanks. VCD you made looks fun. If you don't mind I have a question. I just got a "Movie Card" and my North American NTSC Saturn does not seem to recognize it no matter what I do. I have tried 3 different Sega Saturns and no difference that I can see in any boot up screen, menu or game. I have found very little information on the internet about troubleshooting this. Thanks for any ideas.
The VCD card only does something if there is a Video CD inserted, or a application running utilises the videocard
I know this is a little late, but yeah what @televisionandcheese is correct. Also make sure you're VCD card is NTSC (USA & Japan) and not PAL (European format).
Tell me this work on vídeos from Castlevania Symphony of the night from Sega Saturn
Unfortunately no. Konami would have had to include MPEG1 versions of the videos on the disc, which they didn't.
Lol the dc don't need a vcd add on it can be done with just a boot disc
lol who cares lol
I can't for the life of me figure out how to burn a VCD and make it work on Saturn. All of my retail VCD's work on it. How did you create your VCD's?
If you're still interested in this, I can make a tutorial video. I make custom VCDs and DVDs for people all the time with whatever video content they want on it.
@@ThexthSurvivorI’m interested
I think K3B on Linux can create them. FREE
Will No Limits be available for purchase?
A.J. here - The VCD is free of charge, sir. I can't provide a SEGA CD/SATURN case, but you get the disc with artwork and a nice paper sleeve. :) If you'd like a copy, send an email to "segabits@gmail.com" with the subject line "no limits VCD" and a mailing address in the body. I make these things myself, and I send 'em out the day after receiving a request.
Quick note; the VCD will not work on PlayStation 3. I've tested it on a SEGA Saturn, PC and two JVC DVD players.
I have vcd card in my Sega Saturn. But once i put a vcd disc in the Ss it doesnt plat the vcd. Anyone know if i have to do something to make it work?
same problem
Make sure your VCD card is the same region as your Saturn. The Japanese VCD cards will work on Japanese and American Saturns (NTSC). The European VCD card will only work on European Saturns (PAL). If it still doesn't work, either the VCD card isn't seated properly, or the VCD disc is from a different region from your VCD card, or the VCD disc doesn't work, or the worst case scenario would be that the VCD card itself is faulty (hopefully that''s not the case).
Will this work on the American Sega Saturn models?
The Japanese VCD cards will work o American Saturns as they are both NTSC. The European VCD card is PAL format and won't work on American or Japanese Saturns.
Cool video 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Is there a rom of it?
Send me that cd I’ll recover it and make a few copy’s for you if I get it to work
Why don't you just put the disc in a pc if the dreamcast can't read it?
put it in cdi format and burn it to a disc for your dreamcast to enjoy.
It was also popular in Europe mainly used by magazines many magazines for "free" and standalone for cartoons since they choul be played on every DVD and what's more they can even be recorded in MPEG-2 making it a DVD like but just the video had to be shorter (thus common usage for cartoons). I dunno about Asian VCDs but European ones always contained a windows player on the disc so that u could play them on your PC.
they should just do a new improved Saturn Video card, one that could play all formats including MP4 and with memory to store videos in it, will be cool if it has an HDMI output, so we can plug a HD cable and connect to TV, as well if has a battery in it, and could plug with battery to keep battery life longer, is annoying to have to switch that battery so often.
I would freaking love a card for the Saturn that could play modern day video formats, especially MP4 h264. There is a HDMI mod for the Saturn I've seen in another video somewhere. Also there is an optical disc drive emulator mod where you can load your Saturn games from and SD card.
@@ThexthSurvivorimagine playing videos with exotic ffmpeg data and it produces silly effects that are not supposed to happen
Those cards are about as much as a cheap laptop trying to find them on eBay.. that's a novelty item that's just to ridiculously expensive unless you can find a Saturn with one already installed.
Cool video, loved it . We recently did our top 8 games on this great console. If you have time check it out on our channel. Many thanks.
Psx had no vcd capability.
Third party mpeg add on could be used with early psx with parallel port to allow vcd playback. 3do had official video module to allow vcd playback.
they made one model for asian countries that had it built in, other models required a card that worked up to the 7000 series i believe
Yes it does...there are quite a few of VCD add on Cards