6:54 Black magic indeed, Stevie! ... thanks for this video, it's a goldmine of info! I've just started using iZotope's Ozone 9 (specifically the "Match EQ" function) with Boss's tone studio (I bought a Katana 100 MK2 a few weeks ago) to bring "across" by hand-copying the Match EQ wave with the Boss studio's built in Parametric EQ -- it's something I picked up from a couple of other youtube users.
Thanks! I have found through doing these tone matches, you sort of get to know what all good sounds seem to have in common and get better at making your own tones. I rarely use tone matches myself anymore but found then to be an amazing learning tool for training your ears on guitar tone 🤘
It's so much more streamlined in version 9. I remember getting right into this with Ozone4 back in the day, it was a right bollocks compared to how it is now lol.
Very nice tutorial. What’s the advantage of using the IR as opposed to just using the matched EQ? Is that just for use with devices that can’t load an EQ plugin?
You can just use the tone match within your DAW if you want. Turning the output into a ir is so you can export it to a vst like Helix Native, or Neural DSP or you can import them into a moddeler pedal board such as HX Stomp
Sounds great and seems pretty easy to do. Have looked at other eq match videos and wonder about some things: You don't need to trim the IR? Seems to be a common practice to at least trim off in the beginning of the file to avoid latency, but maybe that voxengo plugin does that for you? Also, in other plugins people set phase to minimum and quality to best possible but maybe ozone don't have these options?
Yes all the eq setting are set automatically in ozone, and I dont get any noticable latency. I've seen the melda eq might be an even easier process than this though
Hey man, thank you. I love your video and easy explanation. Have your improve your process/workflow of tone matching?? I have seen videos with different sweeps lengths (3 s, 4s, 12, and 15 s), what would be the best or the recommended sweep length as starting point?
Using Melda MFreeform EQ is by far the easiest way currently, I bought the plugin recently on sale for 40 quid and dont need ozone or voxengo any more, you make the ir directly from the eq plugin
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic Thank you for your reply. Consider to share an updated video with MFreeForm EQ, please. What about the sweep length, any recommendation? I have got decent IRs but they are very low volume/gain. Have you experiment that too?
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic thank you man!!! I really appreciate the time you take to help me! Do your IRs have good volume or do you need to increse it somehow?
Mr. Stevie, bare with me please... When the isolated guitar is in stereo, may I work with the track as is or would it be better to make a mono track from the stereo by splitting the signals? The thing I've been "crashing" now is that some records have a different L and R guitars, I mean, is not only about a doubled guitar, so how to face that kind of tone matching work?
This is the tutorial I looking for Sweet I know that the ozone needs our play to matched the tone we after Btw is it true that the duration time of our play (our basic tone play to be matched) will impact the final result of the tone match? The longer the better result? Is there any minimum (how many seconds/ minutes) we must play to get it right?
Thanks for the comment, glad you found it useful. You can see in ozone that after a few seconds, the spectrum will stabilise. That is the tone match complete, playing beyond this time will not improve the tone match. Thanks 🤘
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic Those tone matched IR are some hot topic going arround, especially in the Helix community right now I hopes Line 6 will continue to improving their modeling quality that can competes with the others new generation competitor modeler, can not wait the next updates they planned to released Okay so short duration of audio sample is adequate enough to makes ozone works right Thank you very much! 🙏
If using Ozone 11 match EQ, regarding the "smothing" and "amount" settings, would you recommend 0% and 100% to get the best pkssible match? I'm asking because some forums suggest "does not overkill/exagerate" with amount of EQ applied. 😊
You can find a part of a song like the intro where only the guitars are playing, you can search the net for isolated stems of the track you want. I gues you could also try one of the ai demixing apps/plugins to get the reference but I haven't tried this
So ive done everything but when i go to use the ir there is an echo. its playing twice and i dont know what ive done wrong. it sound good though beside that
Not experienced that before, did you trim the audio as small as possible, I think if you don't do that you get latency, but not sure. There's an easier way to make irs now using mfreeform eq. I need to update this video to include this method
Awesome! Finally found a video with using the same software/plugins that I have. Oh btw, I haven't tried it myself but since you asked: there seems to be a great method using Melda MFreeformEqualizer instead of Ozone EQ/Voxengo Decon with this method, looks like it's more accurate than Ozone ua-cam.com/video/mn-jAusXARI/v-deo.html
Make sure you're exporting the audio from your Daw correctly and the sample rate bit depth of the sweep, your Daw and the exported affected Sweep are all the same and mono
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Absolutely Brilliant video. We're producing our own music and your videos like this are golden. Thank you!
Happy to help! Thanks so much 🤘🎸
I would never have thought of this. Actually brilliant.
Black magic indeed!! Excellent
It's awesome for learning about guitar production
6:54 Black magic indeed, Stevie! ... thanks for this video, it's a goldmine of info!
I've just started using iZotope's Ozone 9 (specifically the "Match EQ" function) with Boss's tone studio (I bought a Katana 100 MK2 a few weeks ago) to bring "across" by hand-copying the Match EQ wave with the Boss studio's built in Parametric EQ -- it's something I picked up from a couple of other youtube users.
Your right it is a fab process. One of my mates has a Katana and I love it, it's an awesome amp 🎸🤘
Appreciate you making the vid! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! 🤘
clearly explained. thanks so much.
You're welcome, thank you
Great video!! Can't understand why i haven't found this out until now!. Tho i must say i prefer the initial tone of yours :)
Thanks! I have found through doing these tone matches, you sort of get to know what all good sounds seem to have in common and get better at making your own tones. I rarely use tone matches myself anymore but found then to be an amazing learning tool for training your ears on guitar tone 🤘
FYI you can do this with ReaVerb, which comes stock in Reaper, instead of Voxengo Deconvolver.
I didn't know that thanks I'll try it 🤘
Thank you for sharing the concept of ReaVerb to me. I had Reaper for almost 7 months and never knew
@@JohnorJohnny my pleasure! It’s also a super low cpu IR loader.
It's so much more streamlined in version 9. I remember getting right into this with Ozone4 back in the day, it was a right bollocks compared to how it is now lol.
Aye its mad, I think it was ozone 5 I learned it on, and it was pretty complicated. But I learned a lot about guitar sounds from this wee trick
Very nice tutorial. What’s the advantage of using the IR as opposed to just using the matched EQ? Is that just for use with devices that can’t load an EQ plugin?
That's precisely my question. Hope we get an answer
You can just use the tone match within your DAW if you want. Turning the output into a ir is so you can export it to a vst like Helix Native, or Neural DSP or you can import them into a moddeler pedal board such as HX Stomp
Thx!
Cool! It fits perfectly with the FM3! Can you make it metallica?!
help my ir doesnt sound when i try it on helix :c
Try it on an ir loader in your computer, there you might be able to tell why its not working
Sounds great and seems pretty easy to do.
Have looked at other eq match videos and wonder about some things:
You don't need to trim the IR? Seems to be a common practice to at least trim off in the beginning of the file to avoid latency, but maybe that voxengo plugin does that for you?
Also, in other plugins people set phase to minimum and quality to best possible but maybe ozone don't have these options?
Yes all the eq setting are set automatically in ozone, and I dont get any noticable latency. I've seen the melda eq might be an even easier process than this though
really awesome
Excellent explained. Can you share your share your Helix settings for USB?
Thanks buddy! Helix patch is in the description, just turn off the ir 🤘
This process is similar to do for Fractal too?
Absolutely 🤘🎸
Hey man, thank you. I love your video and easy explanation. Have your improve your process/workflow of tone matching?? I have seen videos with different sweeps lengths (3 s, 4s, 12, and 15 s), what would be the best or the recommended sweep length as starting point?
Using Melda MFreeform EQ is by far the easiest way currently, I bought the plugin recently on sale for 40 quid and dont need ozone or voxengo any more, you make the ir directly from the eq plugin
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic
Thank you for your reply. Consider to share an updated video with MFreeForm EQ, please.
What about the sweep length, any recommendation?
I have got decent IRs but they are very low volume/gain. Have you experiment that too?
@@hernan_93 I use the default sweep made by voxengo
Here's an updated video
ua-cam.com/video/rGBPqV4dJVI/v-deo.html
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic thank you man!!! I really appreciate the time you take to help me!
Do your IRs have good volume or do you need to increse it somehow?
Mr. Stevie, bare with me please... When the isolated guitar is in stereo, may I work with the track as is or would it be better to make a mono track from the stereo by splitting the signals? The thing I've been "crashing" now is that some records have a different L and R guitars, I mean, is not only about a doubled guitar, so how to face that kind of tone matching work?
I'd just tone match the left and right side seperately, then make 2 IRs for the left and right side for my final patch
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic i did it this way. I'm happy with the results...
This is the tutorial I looking for
Sweet
I know that the ozone needs our play to matched the tone we after
Btw is it true that the duration time of our play (our basic tone play to be matched) will impact the final result of the tone match? The longer the better result? Is there any minimum (how many seconds/ minutes) we must play to get it right?
Thanks for the comment, glad you found it useful. You can see in ozone that after a few seconds, the spectrum will stabilise. That is the tone match complete, playing beyond this time will not improve the tone match. Thanks 🤘
@@StevieMcLaughlinMusic Those tone matched IR are some hot topic going arround, especially in the Helix community right now
I hopes Line 6 will continue to improving their modeling quality that can competes with the others new generation competitor modeler, can not wait the next updates they planned to released
Okay so short duration of audio sample is adequate enough to makes ozone works right
Thank you very much! 🙏
If using Ozone 11 match EQ, regarding the "smothing" and "amount" settings, would you recommend 0% and 100% to get the best pkssible match?
I'm asking because some forums suggest "does not overkill/exagerate" with amount of EQ applied. 😊
Yes I get that, and depending on what I'm going for I do sometimes change these settings
how you get the refrence guitar tone ?isolated plugin or sth?
You can find a part of a song like the intro where only the guitars are playing, you can search the net for isolated stems of the track you want. I gues you could also try one of the ai demixing apps/plugins to get the reference but I haven't tried this
What DAW is that?
Reaper
Just need a little compression
So ive done everything but when i go to use the ir there is an echo. its playing twice and i dont know what ive done wrong. it sound good though beside that
Not experienced that before, did you trim the audio as small as possible, I think if you don't do that you get latency, but not sure. There's an easier way to make irs now using mfreeform eq. I need to update this video to include this method
Here's an updated video of my new process, hope this helps
ua-cam.com/video/rGBPqV4dJVI/v-deo.html
Awesome! Finally found a video with using the same software/plugins that I have. Oh btw, I haven't tried it myself but since you asked: there seems to be a great method using Melda MFreeformEqualizer instead of Ozone EQ/Voxengo Decon with this method, looks like it's more accurate than Ozone ua-cam.com/video/mn-jAusXARI/v-deo.html
Thanks man! Yes I've seen people using the Melda one it looks awesome, but I haven't tried it myself 🤘
You need to get a job in the Tec teaching this stuff
I need to get a job full stop lol
Nawwwwwe
very good video, however im not getting any sound from the ir i created in voxengo
Make sure you're exporting the audio from your Daw correctly and the sample rate bit depth of the sweep, your Daw and the exported affected Sweep are all the same and mono