13 Style Mistakes You Should Try To Avoid
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In this new episode of Sartorial Talks, Sonya Glyn and Hugo discuss some style mistakes every gentleman should try to avoid. Some mistakes are simple, common sense and easy to fix, while others require a little bit more experience in the sartorial arena.
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Timestamps:
1. Over-obsessiveness 2:25
2. Stubby shirt collar 8:30
3. Short socks 11:00
4. Notch too high 14:05
5. Superhero suit 16:15
6. Button stance 18:20
7. Neglected shoes 22:20
8. Big armholes 24:45
9. Cheap ties 27:45
10. Jacket collar roll 32:30
11. Collar gap 34:40
12. Clashing belt 38:00
13. Too many accessories 42:00
Many thanks David! Hugo & Sonya
thank you
Hold this 👑 thank you!
Cheers David much appreciated.
You all prolly dont care but does anyone know of a method to log back into an instagram account??
I was stupid lost the password. I would love any help you can give me
I began dressing "up"; or better, in 2006 when a personal stress appeared in my life. It was not exactly a tragedy, but it was something that dramatically changed my life. I was very depressed, but I realized that life goes on, and I could not just give up; because other people depended upon me, and I had a responsibility beyond myself. In order not to feel so depressed, I began to dress in a sport jacket and tie when I would go out of an evening,to drown my sorrows in the local pub, and try to feel more normal. I was pleasantly surprised to be treated with more respect and admiration, and to be immediately addressed, oftentimes as "sir" rather than the usual " 'sup". Men and women treated me differently than when I wore the "expected" jeans and t-shirt that I was accustomed to wear. I was astonished that peoples attitude changed so dramatically just because I changed my attire. I guess my point is, don't wait for some drama to decide to be better than you are, at any moment in your life, but try to be better than you are without the permission of others. Be your best self, and don't let others decide your direction in life; make your own way without the permission of anyone but you. Sorry for the rant, and have a wonderful life.!
Dear friend, what a wonderful story. Thank you so much for sharing it. And you are so right. When you dress up (by choice and not by obligation), people are immediately different with you. They look at you with more respect and kindness. We've experienced this so many times, in airports, airplanes, restaurants, hotels, everywhere. Yours, Hugo & Sonya
This is a great story. Which is how I view the purpose of style. To tell your story through your clothes.
Thanks for sharing!
I don't wanna copy you , but actually I do share the same experience . I don't know why , but while going through tough times I started dressing up well and received similar response from the people around me . Apart from being respected I noticed that people around me tries to have a conversation with me and that too in a much polite and open-free way (they feel comfortable while talking to me ) so they explore themselves in a better me , which allows me to understand them better. Thanks @handyndn1 for sharing your experience .
I started in the style world in a similar situation about 6 months ago, being depressed about family deaths and having the necessity to pick myself up because people depended on me. Back then, it hit me while I was seeing a movie... "the suit is the gentlemen armor", and just like yourself I started noticing people were acting more polite around me, I was even greeted as if I were a doctor. It was a funny moment, even though Im an engineer.
Thanks for sharing!
Haha! Snap! When my father died in 2017 I experimented with bespoke tailoring!
Sonya's first point is quite universal: if you lose the joy in the pursuit of excellence, it becomes a burden - be that in career, fashion, sports, or any part of your life. Wonderful.
Many thanks ! Hugo & Sonya
I'm an artist and most of my time is spent in my atelier but discovering Sonya and Hugo is a delightful escape into a world of social tastes; guided by two erudite intellects. what a pleasure. Thank you.
The 14th sartorial mistake: to miss every episode you put out there for us!
By the way, love the quality of the image! That new equipment rocks!!!
Thank you Mauro. And concerning the new equipment, we are progressing. Still a long way to go to really make the best out of it, but on our way. Cheers, Hugo & Sonya (and Kosmas and Greg).
Whenever I dress "formal" (because here people consider even a sport coat and jeans "formal) I've always been asked if I'm not too hot or uncomfortable and whatnot, same for "dress" shoes, because often people find those uncomfortable too, and I always just say "you're just not wearing the right ones".
There's nothing I enjoy more when it comes to clothing than wearing a properly fitted suit and a nice pair of shoes.
And when they will put their feet in a real pair of leather shoes, they will understand. All the best, Hugo & Sonya
People are used to wearing polyester suits and glued together "dress" shoes. They don't even know what they're missing out with a proper version.
Listening to Hugo and Sonya is almost like therapy. Love your voices and your passion; thank you for preaching to us and showing us the way.
If we can do something positive like you describe, then life is better. Thanks a lot ! ~Sonya and Hugo
the collar gap with a tiny shirt collar drives me crazy too, lol
Haha, yes, it quickly becomes slightly obsessional to spot them, because they are everywhere! Hugo
@@SARTORIALTALKS nearly always come hand in hand with an anaemic lapel as well, so two chances to spot them! I have seen some shirt companies with sponsored adverts promoting these shirts so they must really be commercial successful at the moment. Hopefully not for too much longer. Also, Sonya - I love that suit fabric in particular. Do you happen to have a niece my age? Hugo - looking great as ever too and very comfortable (great rule)!. Regards, Guy.
@@guymcqueen6538 Mate.. "A niece my age?" Calm down damn
It is so refreshing to to not be given rules. Freedom is maybe the most important quality in style in my opinion. You guys call attention to important aspects of dress but never go so far as to make rules. I love it. I don’t even wear suits but find your talks extremely interesting and very much applicable to more casual style. Thank you.
Merci Jonathan for your encouraging words. And you are perfectly right, all this can be applied to a more casual way of dressing. Stay safe! Hugo & Sonya
After losing over 45 pounds in weight this year I realized none of my clothes actually fit me anymore. I tried on a few of my suits and they looked as if they were brought for someone else. I had lost 4" from my chest and 4" from my waist. I decided very reluctantly to donate all of my beautiful wardrobe to good causes. I now have to start again with my sartorial journey.... I have to say the task is daunting to say the least. I need to take my new physique into consideration and as I begin to gather new pieces. I may well discover my tastes may have altered a little. Your channel will be needed. Thank you Hugo and Sonya.
I’d have taken those clothes to a tailor...
"Stop the madness: No more collar gaps!" Hahaha
Say it loud and proud, HA! Hugo
I must say, I adore you two! Your dynamic and banter is so fun and uplifting - Keep it up!
Thanks that's very kind of you! Hugo
I find so interesting to see husband and wife having talk in this setting. I simply love it.
I had a meeting. I never realized that I am usually the only one with a well tailored suit and a fashionable pocket square. I have a good collection of different pocket squares. My shoes are always polished and my shirts are tailored and tucked in and attached to my socks. The word is out in my company about my style. People now know to dress when they go on appointments with me. I always want my clients to know that I am brining my best and they will always get my best. I show I care in the way I deal with them but also how I dress. I think it only proper. I enjoy your videos and it has really helped me in my style journey. Thank you!
You are both delightful.
Merci bcp, Radzo. ~Sonya & Hugo
I’m very glad I found your UA-cam channel, it’s such a fabulous education for me. I’m learning so much, and I’m starting to see things with new eyes.
It all came from a chance search to find out what goodyear welt meant.
Thank you for opening up a new world for me.
"It makes you uncomfortable to know he is uncomfortable." Sonya nailed it! That is a perfect description of experiencing ones fussy behaviour.
I really appreciate the affirmation, thank you ! ~Sonya
One of my favorite channels... thank you for providing visual images of the mistakes.
Thanks for saying so Enrique, and glad you're here. Cheers! ~Sonya & Hugo
"No short socks, this is non negotiable..." he said sitting in front of a picture of a model with no socks on... But still excellent information, thank you
Hi.. I follow your talk from Iraq. It is a fascinating talk with alot of valuable advices. Thanks Sonya
If you break the rules, break them with style!
Sonya's best episode.
I would say, one of her best for sure. I realise she should more often lead the show!! Cheers, Hugo
@@SARTORIALTALKS I haven't seen all of your episodes so there may be others where she excelled as well. A la prochaine!
The two of you are such a delight to listen to. Always enjoy the content.
You both look very elegant as usual, humility and a tie are the only accessories you need in my opinion. Thank you for this video, enjoy your morning!
Thank you so much Sonya and Hugo for your videos!!! It is simply delightful to watch you both speak so eloquently about the ageless and timeless art of dressing elegantly (without the starchy feeling) Your experience and knowledge are invaluable. Much love from Long Island, New York.
👍🤩💝Fantastic.
😆🤣😂Had me cracking up @ 34:40 about the collar gap 😆🤣😂
Magnifique from Australia, it is a joy listening to you both. Thank you.
I am a huge fan of Mes Chausettes Rouge. I've been ordering from them for years (socks and Geo. Trumper cologne) and when I was in Paris a couple of years ago I dropped by the shop and met one of the proprietors. Very nice fellow and shop.
While we agree, this is useful information for other subscribers as well, so thanks for commenting ! ~Sonya & Hugo
I cannot wait for the long tie short tie discussion. Lovely as always. Merci
Stay-tuned Marc, and thanks! Hugo and Sonya
When I think back to my days of experimentation and learning there were certainly some esoteric choices... your passion and gentle expertise have been an inspiration for many years. Thank you Hugo and Sonya!
Hi Michael, Join the club & hoping some of my learning curve pics don't resurface HA. Glad to have you here with us and thanks, Hugo
Magnificent discussion Hugo and Sonya! Pure class and style!
I never used to "dress up" since I am in a tech environment and nobody around me wears anything more than a t-shirt / jeans or shorts. But I always liked some dressing up and started changing my style. I still do not wear suits (other than some rare occasion) but wear sport coats with contrasting trousers or jeans, added with an ascot (I do not use normal ties), a pocket square and a nice pair of shoes. For me it is my normal attire when I go to work or go to town etc. I really enjoy it. The funny thing is I get so many appreciation and respect even just in that attire. Many people say to me that I look very well and reminds them how people changed dressing style and how lost of a sight it is now. Thanks for the great pointers of working button height and being comfortable. I would like to see an episode concentrating on sport coats and ascots, for those of us who likes to dress semi formal and to add a bit more fun and free style.
Being in the tech environment, you've made a real statement simply by wearing a sport coat. Glad to read about the positive results so far and yes, we need to work our way towards talking about more relaxed dressing. Thanks for that, Hugo
You folks are one one the most sophisticated couples I have come across... So knowledgeable, articulate! You two nicely compliment each other! Wish you all success and happiness! And yes, thank you for the great content!
Thank you, Tarek ! Hugo and Sonya
Always a pleasure. As already mentioned I think accessoires are a topic that depends a lot on your choice. If you prefer the classic style I agree, don't overdo it. But if you prefer a more daring, dandyesque, than it might be a good idea to wear some more of them. Which is, at least for me, a nice thing. Might change when I get older.
We agree Julius. And in any case those advices work for the gentlemen who hesitate and are looking for guidance and inspiration. But if you master accessories, of course enjoy them! Hugo & Sonya
You are both a pleasure to watch and listen, and so relaxing.
Thank you!
Hugo is the man.
When I was in Aberdeen at the weekend, on Saturday night I was wearing my dinner suit. The best way to walk in a dinner suit, or any suit, is to walk moderately quickly with one hand in a pocket. The ball room, where we had the party, is next to the coast where all the would-be racers like to park their cars and hang-out. There is always a police presence to discourage them from racing. I walked to check that the car was alright. I walked along with one hand in my my pocket and a straight back (I am prone to slouching). A couple of the young men said hello in a quite respectful tone, one of them even called me 'sir'. A little story for you.
Thank you very much for this very enjoyable conversation.
I wear a suit only on rare occasion. To avoid the ‘No Back-of-Collar Roll’, I always strech and sit on the jacket to avoid this mistake and have it neat.
It a pleasure to see both of you enjoying all this 😀
As a married man myself, I really enjoyed this talk between spouses.
Wow I clicked on this not thinking I would watch the whole thing and here I am at the end of the video. Very interesting stuff! Great work!
Always an excellent show! Regards from Brazil 🇧🇷
The wide lapels are quite a classic. As always informative content. Enjoyed it immensely.
Thank you so much Willis! Hugo & Sonya
I tell you what..as long as you feel like you are under your second skin... it's like giving life with your body to the perfect proportions of your outfit ... a beautiful outfit makes a genuine soul shines through ...thanks again from bologna..!!
That's a beautiful message David. Abbraccio, Hugo & Sonya (we adore Bologna).
lol i love it: "you just don't go outside without good shoes".
2 Legends of the industry!!! Love these two
You're very generous---and we are grateful for the enthusiasm, so thanks very much.
Hugo and Sonya
Moderation in all things, especially moderation.
This one made me pause, ha! Hugo
I love this
Conor-Nolan Kelley A quotation from Oscar Wilde I believe.
@@minty448
Not that I'm aware of.
Sheer class - I could listen to you all day. Much obliged and keep up the good work.
Finally, I’m able to fully experience your conversation with all “UA-cam viewers’ exclusives” that I could only imagine while listening on Spotify :) I really enjoy listening to Your calm voices and beautiful background music while on my way home, and now I’ll listen to Your great conversation again, this time both with audio and vision. Can’t wait for more interesting podcasts from You :)
What a great message to receive Christopher, thank you so much. More podcasts are ready to upload so thank you for the motivation. Cheers! Hugo
You guys are so proper and classy...it's an enjoyment to watch. Thank you for the video
Thank you so much and glad you watched! Hugo and Sonya
Excellent video! Can’t wait for the next episode
Thank you Bruno! Hugo & Sonya
An outstanding episode!
Where I am working (before COVID19 isolation), my 2 other team mates and I had organised "Not-So-Casual" Fridays amongst ourselves. We get dressed with neckties, waistcoats and/or suits while everyone else were wearing their casual shirts and jeans for Friday.
I agree with your assessment of belts breaking the frame into 3 components. Consequently I change my black leather belts to use a black buckle to help it blend better with the black trousers and black waistcoat.
Thanks Eddy for your contribution. We love your "not-so-casual" Fridays idea. We are the counter-culture! Stray strong, Hugo & Sonya
@@SARTORIALTALKS No worries, you are most welcomed. Back when I was the only guy dressed up at work, they asked why and I told them as a joke that I had a job interview. When there are 3 of us dressed up, it started to inspire other guys to wear neckties to work. Sometimes I wear the Eldredge knot and when they asked about the knot, I refer them to the resources online. When we all return back to the office I will share your Channel with them.
Key phrase…..”the removal of joy from dressing up”…..thats what we don’t want for sure……charming and approachable video as always
Merci Stephen, indeed joy is paramount in this field. Hugo and Sonya
Ive been a fan for years, im glad ive found your channel.
Simplicity is always better when putting together an outfit like white shirt, burgundy tie with white polka dots and a navy suit. Super elegant and nothing that will stand out. You don't need to stand out from the crowd.
I think that even in this day and age a well fitting suit and a nice pair of shoes are a must not only for the events that require formality but for it being a classical piece in men’s clothing that will never go out of style and personally brings so much confidence and understanding of the sartorial culture and knowledge
We couldn't agree more ! Best, Hugo and Sonya
I go back and forth between backcountry chopping wood attire and classic sophisticated attire. Im an architect and seem to have the inherent privilege to drift from one to other without question from clients and colleagues. I have to say that your conversations inspire me to gravitate more to the classic style of a jacket and tie. And with most going casual it feels like a corrosion of conformity to dress classicly.. my favorite is to go against the sheep and their norm. Thanks for all the great tips and commentary.
Thanks great hints and insights.
With great pleasure Melkam. Hugo
I just love Sonya's face expression at the very beginning of the video! Living the life! Great talk, as always!
Haha you're right. When we are about to start a show, we feel so joyful and thankful to be able to make a living with our productions (thank to our patrons on Patreon). Cheers! Hugo & Sonya
I like these two.
Merci beaucoup. Hugo & Sonya
Yisus, talking about couples goals... I´m not interest in style (not in a serious way, I just like to see people well dress), but I have listen this full podcast because of their chemistry.
See a couple like this make me hopefull about relashionships and the human race in general.
Wow, thank you Esteban for your kindness and appreciation. Much love from Hugo & Sonya (from Bourgogne France).
I like to wear an overcoat and a scarf, and flowy pants, but I like to have it not perfectly straight or tie properly to give it a relax yet elegant look.
Hello, I'm from Portugal and I love your amazing channel. Congratulations and keep the good work.
Thank you José! Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
I'm intrigued that you count the tie as one of the accessories! For me, when you're wearing a suit, the tie is part of the suit (as are my cufflinks).
That's my excuse for tie, cufflinks and pocket square.
And the pocket watch goes without saying, obviously...
Haha, we love the way you count your accessories. All the best! Hugo & Sonya
I used to be a die hard of matching the belt with the shoes and even up to listening to this talk I was always thought this rule couldn't be tweaked, but now with what Sonia has said, I think breaking this rule will also add some style in enhancing silhouette. It makes lots of sense.
*Sonya* Not Sonia.
23:20 Just use some water, saddle soap, clean them up with a towel, and buff with walnut or tallow. And it will work out. Takes you 2 minutes..
Such wise words about shoes. In my experience, having interviewed many a young man for work, you can often read the measure of a man not by the style, or wear of his shoes but whether the welts are cleaned.
Thanks for sharing your experience Kes. Best! Hugo & Sonya
I’ve never seen lapels like Hugo’s. This is a bold look, and if anyone can pull off this look it’s undoubtedly Hugo
Thanks Sonya and Hugo!
You are very welcome, Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
Great tips. Wonderful. First thing is noticed were Sonya's beautiful glasses having watched the Maison Bonnet interview.
I'm one of those gentlemen who has short legs and a long torso and I always wear my trousers at the belly button and all my jackets have a higher button stance. My proportions are so much better that way.
Also, I believe the belt matching rules are there to help newer gentlemen make better choices at the beginning of their menswear journey. I think that belts should match shoes in most business environments but if you're dressing for yourself outside of the office or dressing for the beauty of it, the belts can be played around with. Sonya's points about matching the belts to the shirt or sweater wasn't anything I'd really considered before but I think that's a perfectly valid way to wear a belt. Cheers!
agree with Hugo , really like Sonia's ensemble here. Very relaxed with wide collar/scarf tie and rolled back jacket/shirt sleeves. super wide lapels are interesting. effortless!
Blue Jeans, Pendleton Shirt, and well broken in logging boots...
A 3000+ foot ascent into the Bitterroot Mountains.
Well dressed 😎
Hello Hugo and Sonya, big fan from Australasia.
Just a minor fact check regarding Gammarelli (if no one have covered it), the red socks are indeed intended for cardinals, since it's the colour of their garments. I actually gave a Cardinal (a close family friend) a pair of red socks from Gammarelli. The Pope himself wears white socks, as befitting the colour of his garments.
Dear Paul, the Pope is also a cardinal, that's why he also used to wear read socks. But that's a minor detail. Best regards, Hugo
Both of you are so elegant and at the same time really approachable. I want to become a person like you.
So kind. I hope we don't ever disappoint & thank you for the encouragement !
Hugo and Sonya
Hi! In my humble opinion, intro music a little bit too loud particularly when Sonya starts talking. By the way, the intro theme is beautiful.
You're right, it's my fault as I didn't fade out the music fast enough. I was 10 seconds late. Cheers, Hugo
@@SARTORIALTALKS What is this very beautiful music? Shazam couldn‘t find :(
Thanks for this very lovely talk! It really felt like sitting with you at the table. Just adding to the button stance problem: It becomes especially problematic with the lowered belt line trend of the last years. Then it looks to me like someone pulling from above rips the person apart. When looking at vintage '20s/'30s suits with very high trousers a high button seems a little less problematic.
You are absolutely right! Cheers, Hugo & Sonya
I will endeavor to avoid these mistakes
This is the first time I've seen Hugo without that infamous ring .
Very helpful video , learned a lot it was like reading a sartorial encyclopedia.
Enjoyed a lot
OMG, I just realise I forgot it on my side table!!! That's a first indeed. Hugo
Love this! Am not a man but I follow your channel though still not a patron. Having lived in Milan for 30 years, my eyes are so trained with every little detail with what's wrong with things on every outfit but I'm keeping it to myself. I do try to share with others but only in Milan they would understand so it's difficult to share with those from other countries. However, love the French and the Brits/English when it comes to real style.
Thank you for your message (we actually have a lot of women watching this show). Best, Hugo & Sonya
I have 60 sports coats, suits, and suit jackets of many styles. I have always collected them and was recently told to watch your channel.
I am running up the stairs to try every single jacket on! Collar-gaps .....
Hilarious. Thanks for replying and for watching.
Cheers, Hugo and Sonya
A charming pair!
Thanks so much Peter ! Sonya and Hugo
The video starts and I clicked the LIKE button. Thats how sofesticated your videos are.
Not taking it for granted, thank you. ~Sonya & Hugo
@@SARTORIALTALKS i never will. not just dressing but everyone needs to learn etiquette. and you do a fine job. thank you for teaching us
Chemistry like this is... GOALS 💯
Toujours un grand plaisir de vous écouter, aussi bien en Français qu'en Anglais. Salutations de Belgique.
Merci Gilles ! Salutations de Bourgogne, Hugo & Sonya
Great video as always. A polite suggestion, some channels have recently put timestamps and video breakdowns with descriptions in the slider, i think your viewers might appreciate the same.
I appreciate your advice on not worrying too much about the Rules and Dos-&-Don'ts. I've long argued that some of the rules are just remnants of bygone eras that don't apply to modern time. Some rules should be disregarded not to be rebellious, but because they are not sensible in relation to style or esthetics. I will certainly follow if they're reasonable. Besides, strictly following the "rules" will naturally hamper developments of one's own personal style.
I truly enjoy your videos and will definitely look forward to your next conversation. You guys should have more subscribers. My apologies for ever mistakenly clumping you with the likes of the snobby fashionistas. Please continue sharing your knowledge and interests on all things sartorial (without selling anything:-). Until next time... Cheers!
So much is open for interpretation---and all these things are man-made anyway, so we must rely on our intuitions and express ourselves the way we want. Cheers to you ! Hugo and Sonya
Bonjour Sonya et Hugo,
Took a while for me to watch this episode but I have to say congratulation on another great episode
The both of you aren’t getting old, your ageing like a fine chateau neuf du pape. I’m at the beginning of my journey. For the time being I’m sticking to SuitSupply and Van Bommel shoes, not yet ready for bespoke. Thanks for the tips on socks and ties.
I really liked the comment about nonchalance and comfort. Both aren’t indicators that you don’t care, they are indicating that you don’t always take yourself to serious. The people that made the greatest impressions on me always felt comfortable in their own skin and made the people around them feel welcome. Take time for everybody, the milieu you come from doesn’t matter.
Travelling at the moment so I’m looking forward to quarantine, once again. This time I will be prepared; I will order both the books to learn and educate myself.
All the best.
Myself I am 5'10 170cm thereabouts and I strive to always wear my Attire to look my best in any aspects of life and more of the old money Attire Hugo Boss is one of my brands in my wardrobe
Great video, lots of fun and not too preachy, as these kinda of videos often are.
So nice hear, thanks for commenting! ~Sonya and Hugo
I want to say I like a relatively low 6x2, but obviously it depends on proportions -- the distance between the two button columns (I forget the word for this), and the desired lapel width, and the desired angle... You can't just pick all four of these things independently. Higher button stance can help you get a more horizontal angle. That's cool.
God Bless you both
Video great as always. Very good points. The only problem is that when someone, for example a student has a lower budget for sartorial clothing...like me. Almost all pieces I have are secondhand or from Etsy/eBay. It’s much much harder to avoid all these mistakes. Yes, something of course can be adjusted by tailor which is great, but I’m afraid that not all of it.
You are on the right path young man. Vintage or second-hand is great to refine your taste and education. Then later, you'll be ready for the next level. Cheers, Hugo
Lovely to listen to you both.
Enjoying Hugo’s books too.
Always refreshing content in these wearying times particularly.
Thank you.
FANTASTIC Content! THANK YOU!!!
Such a great and interesing talk about sartorialism you guys have really helped me out by mentioning the fench store that sells good socks that was really one of the things i kept ignoring having socks that constantly slide down so annoying! I will be ordering some from them!
Excellent! All the best, Hugo & Sonya
The best remedy to what Hugo is talking about from 7:30 is see dressing like cooking: Just because you have 50 different ingredients in your fridge does not mean you have to use them all. (There's one famous Czech chef who once said: "The biggest enemy of Czech cooks is their own creativity.")
This is so true my friend. Many thanks, Hugo & Sonya
I've learned so much from this video, thank you to both of you as usual! Particularly loved how Sonya can describe some of the mistakes in such funny, elegant and more importantly, non-offensive way!
Excellent points. You are a wonderful couple.
Merci Captain! Hugo & Sonya
Bravo Sonya et Hugo! Superbes (comme toujours)! :-D
Thank you for the knowledge you guys share. Love all the suits y'all wear.