The versatility he brings knocks all other heroes out of the water. It's by design. Even if they nerfed every one of his items to the point of being borderline useless, he'd still be better than most of them in a lot of scenarios.
@@Official_ViperYT In general circumstances, yea Gwen and Quincy... and literally all of the rest. Benjamin, Etienne, Psi, and Ezili have specific scenarios where they can be better. The rest have no where near enough value to compete.
I think it'd be neat if they added it, but then did the opposite of workshop- making all of the bloons move slower through the track, which would both be on theme for tar pit, and make it possible on CHIMPS.
I think to keep the difficulty aspect, only low tier bloons get slowed like up to greens so the early game is made possible but has minimal effect of the difficulty past that
i dont think that would be enough. if you are thinking about early game to me there are only one possible option: three darts with each dart covering two lanes and one lane being covered by two of the darts (or one dart covering only a single lane). this would require one dart to beat two greens on two different lanes and unless that slow is insane there is no way this is possible. (the other starting options that to me dont seem possible are sub dart(sub cant cover three lanes) and 100 sub (i dont think it can reach all lanes from the middle))
I think NK could introduce harder maps if the early game is possible, probably with revealing tracks on later rounds, kind of like dark dungeons, so for tar pits, start with 2-3 and open another every 5 rounds or something
maybe it could be like cargo where theregular bloons use one path and the moabs use another, in this case, the regular bloons using 3 of them and then the other two paths opening on round 40 for the moab
15:38 If rounds such as this are hard, ISAB should’ve upgraded to Monkey City to give the snipers +20% more money per crate. Then he would make a quick profit from these sniper farms
@@zekerdeath Yeah but only from income sources not related to popping Bloons. When I first started playing around with bottom path village I thought Monkey Town increased income evenly from all sources, and then Monkey City increased income from all sources again.
@@royal_kim1154 naah, bloonarius extremely hard due to BADs and DDTs exiting in under 1 second, but still doable with enough dps/stuns. lych would probably be impossible with that insane invincibility phase combined with a very short track, not to mention no buffs allowed. vortex would be impossible due to DDTs slip-streaming into the exit within 0.0001seconds, not to mention that large stun range. dreadbloon is too ez, the easiest boss, and the most doable on this map. Big plane 1 immunity, dragon's breath 1 immunity, engineer explosion 1 immunity, and dps the last immunity. the rock bloons might be a problem... phyze is reasonable, since it only zooms forward based on a percentage of the the track length. No camo isn't that much of a problem, considering MAD, camo crosspaths, paragon auto camo etc.
Dude thats so weird i was literally just struggling on round 71 on half cash, i was thinking the same thing "I love that the challenge of different modes makes a round hard that i dont think I've ever really struggled on before"
I feel like they could add this to the game but make it to where the bloons are slower. Not only would it make it actually plausible on Chimps, but also make sense thematically.
I agree 0,2,5 is typically better but not on some multilane maps as it needs balloons to be somewhat grouped for it to work better with other crossspath even with gerry buffs. I would also like to recommend strategies where you are using the 025 sniper to use it instead of the typical maim moab bouncing start or sub bouncing start as the 024 can typically save up to round 50 for edef with a few gerry items and then you have all the way until the mid 60s to start saving up for whatever you want and more reliably beat the midgame. Obviously you can't do that on this specific map but on other maps its extremly helpful and it is something that helped me easily BB most of my expert maps with gerry snipers.
I feel like 205 is better with e sniper strats as 025 shares it strengths and weaknesses with e sniper, but 205 is good bad damage, decent Moab damage, and covers the first bloon problem bouncing bullet and e sniper have.
@@WingedEspeon 205 and elite sniper I feel like struggle a lot to big groups of bfbs and moabs and with the 025 moab damage buff the 025 can take care of those clumps of moabs far better and then for zomgs I like to get 2 maim snipers to take care of those and the 2 rejuv potions with first strike or spike storm negate bad weakness. For most maps I just need 4 or 5 snipers to beat them comfortably for example in muddy I beat it with 50k left over and no abilities other than round 100 first strike.
I feel like this really a map moab push would really shine, it could easily provide steady support to all the towers since in this map time is so precious. Also, it's much better than having 2 random 0-0-0 boomerangs just chilling lol.
Ah, U-Turn, Challenge Deep, the Great Divide, Double-Double Cross and Death Valley bring back memories. I bet it’d be fun if they were brought into btd6.
@@jacobcoopermogil2683 Drag Strip, Castle, Tree Tops, Runway, Clock, Down the Drain, forest path, Benguela and Web expert maps needs to add for btd6. They gotta stop adding new track maps on btd5 like common add more maps for btd6.
Wasn't that one graveyard map considered one of the hardest, too? Or was that only on Reverse? oh cool, line of sight blockers! I wonder if genie benefits from Monkey Town + Jungle Drums I hope that they add an Extreme Difficulty. Maybe starting you on Round 1 gives you enough money to make harder maps like this possible, as a distinction? Then again you'd have to deal with Round 4 that way...
Yeah crypt keeper it's called. Despite the fact that it's only an advanced map it's the 3rd hardest one in the game right behind this one and down the drain.
The advanced maps on BTD5 were stupidly hard. I beat enough Expert maps to unlock Mastery, but I couldn't beat medium on the majority of advanced maps. Too many tracks, too short tracks...
loool then i can see why it wasn't pick by isab, not technically expert. though in btd6 that makes it all the harder because of hero exp scaling@@hdckighfkvhvgmk
I feel like the difficulty ratings on the maps could be rearranged like how some maps are quite hard/easy for their rating and would not mind a extreme rating for true expert CHIMPS maps so it be more rewarding to do and to help split the difficultys more, though it will result in faster hero leveling but it might be cool anyway.
My favorite videos are when you are going up to 100 on chimps and it’s really weird strategy’s and the videos are a little longer because it’s hard and requires a lot of restarts
I think if nk add tar pits, there would be a slowing mechanic in the pits and the tar would be removable, each starting at 200$ and adding 200 for every pit bought. Once doing that, the bloons on that track move at normall speed, but you get a random tier 3 or 4 tower w/ a 1 damage buff, and can be upgraded. Also towers near the tar pit get a 25% attack speed debuff. Finally, all water towers that are placed get the flint tip buff, allowing them to pop lead bloons and deal fire dps (1 bloon layers every seccond for 5 seconds).
If they wanted to bring this map back for btd6 maybe they could let you choose a tar puddle which then slows all bloons by 30% in that puddle by clicking on it and costing nothing.
@SoulxWeaver even so. If it weren't for the broken save system, beating it on max difficulty without p2w mechanics would be nearly impossible. R40 requires careful selling and rebuying of engineers, and extremely fast and particular placememt of spike factories. And that's also just that round, getting there requires stupid amounts of greed which is incredibly dangerous.
@@Silvia.Sparks It is not really p2w mechanics, specialities in btd5 are quite affordable. Obviously, trying to win without specialities will be difficult, because the game expects you to use them, it is part of the progression. Playing without specialities is a player imposed challenge.
BTD5 maps difficulty standard is lower than BTD6 in general, as Main Street, which has only 1 horizontal lane and 1 vertical lane, is Extreme but Ouch, has 2 lanes of each, is only Expert.
Some crackhead would, in less than half a week, post a CHIMPS guide to this map if it were in the BTD 6 game, assuming that it's adjusted to be possible.
I feel like the Idol was incredibly underutilized here, especially since it provides some crowd control for two different lanes for cheap and for 4 different rounds. I'm not sure if it would've really saved some of these rounds, but it's one of his cheaper items and should it help it would be one the only items that actually help out on two lanes on this map.
Glad ISAB is camo blind like me, “why are these ddts getting through? I just bought a moab glue but the y are too fast?” *put it next to a village* *bought discount* *didn’t buy radar scanner* *uses geraldo glue instead* Even the best of us don’t notice small things
Don't think we wouldn't notice the Among Us map
To be fair, he already played that one
@@the_luckiest_charmfr when?
2 years ago, video is called:
This custom map needs no explanation...
@@Amnimic333its a vid from 2 years ago just look up isab amogus
That sus
I think the reason Geraldo feels like "cheese" when you use him is because he's basically a powers store as a character.
The versatility he brings knocks all other heroes out of the water. It's by design. Even if they nerfed every one of his items to the point of being borderline useless, he'd still be better than most of them in a lot of scenarios.
@@jarofpickles4057by most of them you only mean Gwendolyn and Quincy...
@@Official_ViperYT In general circumstances, yea Gwen and Quincy... and literally all of the rest. Benjamin, Etienne, Psi, and Ezili have specific scenarios where they can be better. The rest have no where near enough value to compete.
@@jarofpickles4057 "nowhere near value to compete"
Churchill:
Adora:
Sauda:
@@jarofpickles4057sounds like you watch a lot of btd6 content but never play yourself
I think it'd be neat if they added it, but then did the opposite of workshop- making all of the bloons move slower through the track, which would both be on theme for tar pit, and make it possible on CHIMPS.
I think to keep the difficulty aspect, only low tier bloons get slowed like up to greens so the early game is made possible but has minimal effect of the difficulty past that
@@rivaledrandom1282this is a good idea, slowing everything kinda defeats the point of short lanes
@@berryvenmake it so blimps are big enough to power through, but everything up to a ceramic is too small and weak to go at full speed
i dont think that would be enough. if you are thinking about early game to me there are only one possible option: three darts with each dart covering two lanes and one lane being covered by two of the darts (or one dart covering only a single lane). this would require one dart to beat two greens on two different lanes and unless that slow is insane there is no way this is possible.
(the other starting options that to me dont seem possible are sub dart(sub cant cover three lanes) and 100 sub (i dont think it can reach all lanes from the middle))
And it would also make sense. Tar is sticky after all
Fun Fact: Tar Pits was the only map in btd5 that as of now, no one has beaten with the N.A.P.S.F.R.I.L.L.S rule set that was popular at the time.
i'm pretty sure it's literally impossible even with TAS, but medium is just barely doable. might be wrong tho
I think NK could introduce harder maps if the early game is possible, probably with revealing tracks on later rounds, kind of like dark dungeons, so for tar pits, start with 2-3 and open another every 5 rounds or something
maybe it could be like cargo where theregular bloons use one path and the moabs use another, in this case, the regular bloons using 3 of them and then the other two paths opening on round 40 for the moab
good idea
15:38 If rounds such as this are hard, ISAB should’ve upgraded to Monkey City to give the snipers +20% more money per crate. Then he would make a quick profit from these sniper farms
It’s definitely worth getting monkey city if you’re already doing monkey town for sniper farming
Like 2k for +15% income means you only have to make like 13k to make your money back, and just an elite sniper can make this much in like 10-15 rounds
Exactly
monkey city gives even more money?? I thought it was just free darts
@@zekerdeath and range for the village. To affect a larger area
@@zekerdeath Yeah but only from income sources not related to popping Bloons. When I first started playing around with bottom path village I thought Monkey Town increased income evenly from all sources, and then Monkey City increased income from all sources again.
Can’t wait for “Can you beat a Boss Bloon on the hardest BTD5 map?”
ISAB casually getting a paragon for tier 2 elite:
I think we all know he has to fight Vortex, considering that the other bosses would literally be impossible.
@@royal_kim1154 naah, bloonarius extremely hard due to BADs and DDTs exiting in under 1 second, but still doable with enough dps/stuns.
lych would probably be impossible with that insane invincibility phase combined with a very short track, not to mention no buffs allowed.
vortex would be impossible due to DDTs slip-streaming into the exit within 0.0001seconds, not to mention that large stun range.
dreadbloon is too ez, the easiest boss, and the most doable on this map. Big plane 1 immunity, dragon's breath 1 immunity, engineer explosion 1 immunity, and dps the last immunity. the rock bloons might be a problem...
phyze is reasonable, since it only zooms forward based on a percentage of the the track length. No camo isn't that much of a problem, considering MAD, camo crosspaths, paragon auto camo etc.
Vortex should be possible
He did elite vortex on blons a while ago.
Video idea:
Play BTD5 to see how much has changed and how many upgrades you mistakenly go for but don’t have
good idea
I miss that you cannot have x-1-1 ninja in btd6
Would be interesting to see challenge where you can only use btd5 towers on a btd 5 map.
Thats just btd5
@@gape9068 not really. think of all of the balance changes
@@gape9068And also btd6 upgrades
Would that include just btd5 upgrades as well
Only btd5 upgrades too
Something about isab vids hit different, I fall asleep to them every night. His voice and the background music makes for excellent background audio
😳 weirdo fan boy
Dude thats so weird i was literally just struggling on round 71 on half cash, i was thinking the same thing
"I love that the challenge of different modes makes a round hard that i dont think I've ever really struggled on before"
Rare sighting of someone enjoying half cash (impossible)
The nuclear map and tar pits definitely made me want to throw my phone in btd 5
I feel like they could add this to the game but make it to where the bloons are slower. Not only would it make it actually plausible on Chimps, but also make sense thematically.
What does thematically mean
@@jaztheman2 On theme
@@jaztheman2theme atically
@@Echinacaegenius
1:48 why is the left dart monkey whiffing
With Challenge editor you could've played this in CHIMPS mode and just gave yourself more starting cash or starting hearts.
Imagine these maps with Line of Sight
This map HAS line of sight, it's just not important
@@JoelTheParrot modded maps don't have line of sight, unless they managed to add it recently
They did, we see it in the video. The caves block the line of sight of Sniper Monkeys, you can see the red parts.@@user-to7ds6sc3p
@@user-to7ds6sc3p he shows it in the video, the spawning caves are line of sight blockers.
@@user-to7ds6sc3p 8:16
Tar pits on BTD5 impoppable mode is a nightmare with the like 10 fast traveling ZOMGs that spawn. Even with temples its still hard
I don’t know what it is but ISAB and PhoenixSC sound very similar to me
0:12 incorrect
Extreme existed before Tar Pits with Bloontonium Lab and Main Street
I agree 0,2,5 is typically better but not on some multilane maps as it needs balloons to be somewhat grouped for it to work better with other crossspath even with gerry buffs. I would also like to recommend strategies where you are using the 025 sniper to use it instead of the typical maim moab bouncing start or sub bouncing start as the 024 can typically save up to round 50 for edef with a few gerry items and then you have all the way until the mid 60s to start saving up for whatever you want and more reliably beat the midgame. Obviously you can't do that on this specific map but on other maps its extremly helpful and it is something that helped me easily BB most of my expert maps with gerry snipers.
I feel like 205 is better with e sniper strats as 025 shares it strengths and weaknesses with e sniper, but 205 is good bad damage, decent Moab damage, and covers the first bloon problem bouncing bullet and e sniper have.
@@WingedEspeon 205 and elite sniper I feel like struggle a lot to big groups of bfbs and moabs and with the 025 moab damage buff the 025 can take care of those clumps of moabs far better and then for zomgs I like to get 2 maim snipers to take care of those and the 2 rejuv potions with first strike or spike storm negate bad weakness. For most maps I just need 4 or 5 snipers to beat them comfortably for example in muddy I beat it with 50k left over and no abilities other than round 100 first strike.
Bro out here playing CHPS on the hardest map
I feel like this really a map moab push would really shine, it could easily provide steady support to all the towers since in this map time is so precious. Also, it's much better than having 2 random 0-0-0 boomerangs just chilling lol.
controlling that would be a pain
Previous video: “Why everyone is using relentless Glue right now”
Also next video: “Yeah I’m just gonna get a Moab Glue”
It got fixed
I really hope they bring back long range, Siege, the great Divide, U-turn, Challenge Deep, Double double cross and Death Valley from btd5 to btd6.
Ah, U-Turn, Challenge Deep, the Great Divide, Double-Double Cross and Death Valley bring back memories. I bet it’d be fun if they were brought into btd6.
@@jacobcoopermogil2683 Drag Strip, Castle, Tree Tops, Runway, Clock, Down the Drain, forest path, Benguela and Web expert maps needs to add for btd6. They gotta stop adding new track maps on btd5 like common add more maps for btd6.
btd battles A-section or whatever it was called, sniper,ace and heli go brr
I noticed treasure trove. Remembered playing only five times of that track per city. 3 entrance and 1 exit, just like Dark Castle.
Need to see an Amogus map challenge ASAP
Did it 2 years ago
“This custom map needs no explanation…” is the name of the video
"Farms give 10% more bananas when they're placed on the Among Us character."
-ISAB
ISAB is the Mr.Krabs of BTD6
"Watch Out! This Gerry Fire is bout to Expire 🗣🔥" Thank you ISAB for dropping banger bars every video 8:30
Bloonchipper and Farms are the MVPs of BTD5, take both of these away and most expert maps will be next to impossible
2:25 - "Yeap, round 8 beaten"
Suspiciously teleported dart monkey:
Wasn't that one graveyard map considered one of the hardest, too? Or was that only on Reverse?
oh cool, line of sight blockers!
I wonder if genie benefits from Monkey Town + Jungle Drums
I hope that they add an Extreme Difficulty. Maybe starting you on Round 1 gives you enough money to make harder maps like this possible, as a distinction? Then again you'd have to deal with Round 4 that way...
Crypt was extremely hard WITHOUT reverse, but yeah.
Nice@@yolochip4889
Yeah crypt keeper it's called. Despite the fact that it's only an advanced map it's the 3rd hardest one in the game right behind this one and down the drain.
The advanced maps on BTD5 were stupidly hard. I beat enough Expert maps to unlock Mastery, but I couldn't beat medium on the majority of advanced maps. Too many tracks, too short tracks...
loool then i can see why it wasn't pick by isab, not technically expert. though in btd6 that makes it all the harder because of hero exp scaling@@hdckighfkvhvgmk
7:21 odd looking glue gunner
h m m
I feel like the difficulty ratings on the maps could be rearranged like how some maps are quite hard/easy for their rating and would not mind a extreme rating for true expert CHIMPS maps so it be more rewarding to do and to help split the difficultys more, though it will result in faster hero leveling but it might be cool anyway.
My favorite videos are when you are going up to 100 on chimps and it’s really weird strategy’s and the videos are a little longer because it’s hard and requires a lot of restarts
I think if nk add tar pits, there would be a slowing mechanic in the pits and the tar would be removable, each starting at 200$ and adding 200 for every pit bought. Once doing that, the bloons on that track move at normall speed, but you get a random tier 3 or 4 tower w/ a 1 damage buff, and can be upgraded. Also towers near the tar pit get a 25% attack speed debuff. Finally, all water towers that are placed get the flint tip buff, allowing them to pop lead bloons and deal fire dps (1 bloon layers every seccond for 5 seconds).
Well, tar pits in Btd 5 was not possible on M.A.P.S.F.R.I.L.L.S so it makes sense that it is not possible on C.H.I.M.P.S.
If they wanted to bring this map back for btd6 maybe they could let you choose a tar puddle which then slows all bloons by 30% in that puddle by clicking on it and costing nothing.
Yeah, even more nostalgia! ( But I still play Btd 5.)
What were going through their mind when they created this map 😂
There was only 80 rounds, and tower Specialties were insanely OP.
@SoulxWeaver even so. If it weren't for the broken save system, beating it on max difficulty without p2w mechanics would be nearly impossible. R40 requires careful selling and rebuying of engineers, and extremely fast and particular placememt of spike factories. And that's also just that round, getting there requires stupid amounts of greed which is incredibly dangerous.
Though I suppose that it was originally made for flash, which capped at hard mode, making it perfectly fair tbh.
@@SoulxWeaverkid named impoppable mastery mode:
@@Silvia.Sparks It is not really p2w mechanics, specialities in btd5 are quite affordable.
Obviously, trying to win without specialities will be difficult, because the game expects you to use them, it is part of the progression. Playing without specialities is a player imposed challenge.
would love to see you play some of the other maps shown here
They should bring back extreme maps. I wanna see where they could go with it.
This feels like it’d be a great spot farm in deflation mode
a chimps run of this sounds fun, like the good days of trying to beat muddy puddles chimps
You should make your own maps and beat the using challenges the maps are made to have those certain challenges be difficult on.
Cool Video ISAB.
Now beat it on NAPSFRILLS
Isab should change his icon to the discount village
I'm hoping for Down the Drain next.
Oh god that one, also don't forget crypt keeper (assuming they add LOS to the gravestones that would make it hell)
BTD5 maps difficulty standard is lower than BTD6 in general, as Main Street, which has only 1 horizontal lane and 1 vertical lane, is Extreme but Ouch, has 2 lanes of each, is only Expert.
Some crackhead would, in less than half a week, post a CHIMPS guide to this map if it were in the BTD 6 game, assuming that it's adjusted to be possible.
Chom Chom or Punji for sure
Thank you isab for defending the tar pits from the bloons
If NK releases some of these more impossible maps, they will definitely have to find a way to balance for CHIMPS
The 050 druid gonna be godlike in this map as well as the 005 and 050 sniper
Blud really thought he could sneak in the amogus map
He already played that map
I love these map mod showcase
I feel like the Idol was incredibly underutilized here, especially since it provides some crowd control for two different lanes for cheap and for 4 different rounds. I'm not sure if it would've really saved some of these rounds, but it's one of his cheaper items and should it help it would be one the only items that actually help out on two lanes on this map.
This map should be called mortar haven
You played Tar Pits and didn't think of using spirit of the forest 🤨
Geraldo ISAB monkey spam is popular ATM and would cover lanes reasonable well.
Now try it with only BTD5 Towers and upgrades
I think this map in chimps would easily get you 90% of the most severe psychological illnesses out there.
You forgot about the monkey city. That would’ve been good
How do you always find exciting and cool ideas for your videos bro I love your vids ❤️
I can imganine Bloonarious on this map, every tier will randomly spawn on these circles and you will have only 10 towers max.
Remember this map this map is from the Urdu 3 Bloons TD spondi Om
i wonder how theyd make this map possible in chimps if it was added for real
My guess would be that circles get larger for there to be more track length
They could do something where circles unlock as the rounds progress so that early game isn't impossible but mid/late game don't get easier.
Probably something like either bloody puddles where it goes one lane at a time or maybe 2 loops instead of 1 for each pit
Why does ge never use Geraldo bunnies?
I'd love to see it's return.
Ugh, tar pits. I still have nightmares relating to trying to get every metal on these stages
Not really sure why you would place your second sub right next to the first one. The right side is clearly weak and needs more towers.
Tar pits always seemed to me like a ridiculous Kaizo map made by a vengeful modder
Now I guess it's true
5:21
HOLY SHIT YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TEST THIS!
Why didn't you go for a More Glaives !!! I wish they added this to BTD6
To be honest I really hope this stays a thing of the past.
NAPSFRILLS wasn't possible, and now CHIMPS isn't possible on tar pits
Please dont remind me the months to get the unpopable medal in btd5
If u play custom maps they show on ur map list u get MM and medals?
oh gosh I remember tar pits.
hated it.
it'll be a lot easier with buccaneers as strong as they are, though.
For isab: do tarpits but you play it like its btd5
How did he know I was just looking at btd5 maps where I actually found out it was separated in 5 categories?!
Glad ISAB is camo blind like me, “why are these ddts getting through? I just bought a moab glue but the y are too fast?”
*put it next to a village*
*bought discount*
*didn’t buy radar scanner*
*uses geraldo glue instead*
Even the best of us don’t notice small things
i would love to see someone do this on chimps
how did you get those maps to a way of being able to black border them?
It was so crazy when isab
Thank you isab for being a cheese appreciater
I could se this map working in btd6 if the bloons did more than 1 spin like the moon map
Me:waiting ISAB buys Advanced intel early
I commented this perfectly when ISAB BOUGHT ADV INTEL
Ravine has competition now
Cool to see btd5 maps in btd6! 😁
2-0-5 doesn’t hit ddt’s unless you give it camo detection.
no shit, thats why he used a 0-2-0 village
what mod are you using to play this map? can you link it in the description
is this a reupload? swear I've seen you play this before
what a mysterious video
what about blon but with 4 tracks like one on each corner??
I love ISAB (and many other veteran BTD6 players) being like “I want to make the game harder” but then still using Geraldo smh
cause using geraldo is fun
Logs is still harder than that map
Bro is playing CHIP mode
How did you import the maps
what if you do all bosses in this map where each boss has its own loop