The best thing about the "They evolved!" argument is that evolving to the extent needed to live in deep cold barren water would mean it's no longer O. megalodon anymore, but a completely new animal. So megalodon would still be extinct, and we'd be hunting for a new unknown life form. It would be like humans evolving to have wings and other adaptations for flight, no longer would we be Homo sapiens but Homo avias.
One more argument for megalodon being extinct: keep in mind that orcas as we know them (large apex predators) only evolved after megalodon’s demise, and the ancestral orcas that lived before then were much smaller-the size of smaller dolphins-and unable to hunt even small marine mammals (meaning they weren’t competitors for even newborn megalodon let alone the adults). If megalodon hadn’t gone extinct, orcas would have never stepped into its ecological shoes and become the recognizable apex predators they are right now.
@@joshuastrittmatter4188 Eh, I doubt that, because megalodon was very much used to dealing with various raptorial sperm whales and even outlasted them (it went extinct in an interval where it had no cetacean competition-orcas hadn’t become raptorial yet and its old rivals were gone).
MEGALODON IS EXTINCT!?! I HAD NO IDEA!! Who in their right minds be stupid enough to believe that O. Megalodon *didn't* go extinct? I love this PaleoMyth Series, I hope there's gonna be more in the future.
A fantastic "deep dive" into why these claims on the Megalodon still being alive are usually either baseless or heavily flawed. Very funny, too. Great video as always.
"Perhaps megalodon evolved" If O. megalodon evolved to be able to sustain abyssal pressure, temperatures and diet .... Then it's not O. megalodon anymore, it's another species of giant shark XD
@@joshuaW5621 12. Patagotitan being called the largest dinosaur Edit: Though I have thoughts on 9 and 10, theyr'e too easy to debunk by simply saying “Megalania isn't alive anymore because even if it evolved into Komodo Dragon, it cannot be considered as Megalania” and “Hardosaurs are not predator sacks”. Also, Megalania is a nomen dubium, it's now called Varanus priscus.
About Dakotaraptor, I firmly trust it's still a valid genus cause we don't have just those bones thought to be from a turtle. We have large raptor Sickle claw and those arms with even preserved holes that would hold flight feathers. With that said, a big raptor most likely existed in Hell Creek like is Dakotaraptor portrayed. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Dakotaraptor_Skeleton_Reconstruction.jpg www.fossilera.com/p/503/dakotaraptor-features.png
Dakotaraptor is valid. A part of it's bones was a turtle. So what? We still found a 25 cm sickle claw and giant dromeosaur teeth, so we know that it's a dromeosaur. Dakotaraptor is a completely valid genus. If it was a few unidentifiable bines, tyen an argument could be made, but we have evidence that a large dromeosaur lived in Hell Creek
13. 273 ft Spinosaurus 14. Pleistocene megafauna extinction caused by humans 15. Deinonychus as apex predator 16. Homo aquaticus existence (who watched Animal Planet will know 🗿)
Size is a specialisation; the bigger an animal is, the more specialised it is, and the more specialised an animal is, the more vulnerable it will likely to be to changes in the environment and ecosystem.
Calling any of it "Evidence" is giving them too much credit because evidence suggests there is something that can be reasonably discussed and in the case of megladon being alive isn't reasonable.
Megalodon is such a fascinating and terrifying animal, it gives me chills knowing a shark this massive was actually real, even if it’s exact appearance is still a mystery. That said, I used to believe that the Megalodon was still alive in the oceans because I bought into the “95% of the ocean is still unexplored” BS, not to mention shark week airing the sharkzilla the monster shark lives mockumentary that claimed it had proof of a still living Megalodon (even say I used to believe that cryptids like Mokele Mbembe were living dinosaurs that survived extinction). Thankfully I’ve matured enough to do the research and accept the fact that not only there is no living Megalodon roaming the oceans today, but shark week has spread this myth to the public, creating a lot of misinformation on the subject, and don’t even get me started on the recent Meg film adaptations starring Jason Statham, that depict the Megalodon as a monster than an animal.
There are some cryptids I’m curious about, Bigfoot being pretty much the only one I think has the potential to be real. But considering what the Megalodon is and what it hunted, we’d definitely have come across it sooner or later. Also on the monster thing, I kinda hate the ‘it’s not a monster’ thing, because while yes its true, doesn’t stop that its a gigantic, terrifying beast that could easily wreck boats if it was still alive. Same with dinosaurs and even modern day animals like bears and elephants.
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 I understand where you’re going from, but what I was actually referring to was the whole media sensationalism of that statement that gets spread to the public, thus creating that mindset.
@@FrancisCastiglione I personally believe that the Mokele Mbembe (if it were a real animal) is some type of giant lizard or mammal that superficially resembles a sauropod (or is a convergent evolution, like you said).
Omg I'm so glad you covered the "5 percent" myth in this video. We've mapped the ocean's surface with satellites, we've mapped the floor with sonar, we've mapped it by heat, by depth, by currents, by salinity, and any other way you could think of. MAYBE we've only been to 5 percent of it in person, but ultimately that doesn't matter. The only possible way for the meg to escape us is if it shrunk down to 1 foot in length, and is now surviving on snailfish.
@@alisona.4166 Yeah I agree...wait what if some birds today are infact dromaeosaurids or troodontids and not avialids, but we dont know because we dont have DNA to compare
Something that Red Raptor doesn’t touch on in Argument #4 is the fact that, even if the teeth actually WERE 11,000-24,000 years old, that alone wouldn’t mean Otodus megalodon survived to the present day. They could easily represent the time that the last O. megalodon was on Earth (if the method used was actually reliable, of course).
About the "coelacanth argument". Is important to notice that THE WESTERN SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY discovered it in 1938, but the locals knew about it for years (in fact, it was "discovered" in a fish market). It's not like it just popped out of nowhere. If megalodon was still alive, it would have been known all across the world for years.
Thanks for pointing out the biggest activist against all the bullsh*t lies being spread about the megalodon’s existence. AVNJ is such a good UA-camr and I feel he deserves more love.
Real Episode Ideas: Sabre-Tooth lips (including gorgonopsids), Is Spinosaurus a chimera (based on some art I saw from CM Koseman), or Fossils inspired myths and creatures Joke Episode Ideas: Was T-Rex a scavenger, “Too big to walk”, or Fossils inspired myths and creatures (this could be either or)
I’m delighted to see this series back and I hope we can get these more often. There is a similar myth about Megalania still being alive. I recommend covering that in a future video.
At least the Varanus priscus one is mildly plausible since the Pleistocene ended rather recently and there is a precedent of monitor lizards laying eggs with parthenogenesis.
Hey dude, will you do a myth video about hadrosaurs being predator fodders (as shown in Jurassic Fight Club and Jurassic World media)? I want to see you debunking this myth.
@@redraptorwrites6778 A while back, I pondered the likelihood of something similar happening with Anomalocaris. Needless to say, though, a descendant of that animal living in the deep sea would be very different from the Cambrian animal we know. But nonetheless, I think a hypothetical Anomalocaris-like arthropod living in the deep sea would be pretty neat. It might also look no less bizarre than many other documented deep sea life and be similarly sized as those creatures, unlike a 50-ton Megalodon.
@@redraptorwrites6778the only extinct animals that I think have a chance of still being alive are ones who went extinct during the Pleistiocene or Holocene. Thylacoleo to be honest might have a bit of a chance
I feel that the coelacanth argument debunk can be boiled down to: just because one kind of fish survived an asteroid doesn't mean another kind survived an ice age. Also, imagine a universe where Megladon did in fact survive, and that fact would not only common knowledge, but Otodus megladon would get the name "Great White Shark" and Carcharadon carcarias would get "Lesser White Shark", or something along those lines.
17:13 = Not a Greenland Shark (Somniosus microcephalus) which is restricted to the north Atlantic, but it's congeneric cousin the Pacific Sleeper Shark (Somniosus pacificus). Filmed in Suruga Bay, Japan at a depth of c.4000 ft in Sep 13, 1989 from the submersible Nautile.
gonna be honest the only reason I ever believed megalodon was still alive was because megalodon was my favorite shark and I didn't want it to be extinct ;(
The megalodon was that size because they ate whales as a snack, but when those whales became too small and too scarce, they were forced to adapt to hunting smaller prey. These actions put them in direct competition with the ancestors of sharks we see today. There came a point when they couldn’t keep up anymore, and they went extinct as a result.
Can’t wait for a 4 year old to go on their moms phone and go “NO!!!! THE MEGALODON IS ALIVE YOU IDIOT!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬”- 4 Year old Kid Anyways if the Meg did exist today, it will be smaller then it used to be
it's honestly kinda disappointing that this video had to be made, why do people still want to believe that a warm water surface-dwelling apex predator shark would still exist
Megalodon is alive... In our hearts. I loved you used the kid glasses of the Polar Express to represent the people who believe the meg is still with us. Your voice acting there was spot on.
If The Megalodon was still alive in current year, it won't look like a resized White Shark, which makes many depictions so disappointing. It wood be a battered beast, a living ecosystem.
Thing is, it never looked like a jumbo white shark in real life, since the shape of its jaws are different. It had a shorter broader flatter snout, more akin to a tiger shark.
I have this strange fascination with megalodon when I was young and still have to this day because Megalodon is an interesting and terrifying animal that lived in our oceans for millions years ago. I used to believe that the megalodon still exists and alive in our oceans when I was young, but now I’m more matured and learn the facts from real scientists (looking at you megalodon: the monster shark lives mockumentary). Speaking about that mockumentary, I rewatched that mockumentary for nostalgia (that mockumentary used to scare me when I was young in 2013 when it first aired on TV) and the meg from 2018 (I’m definitely excited for the sequel).
Obvious result. If I will ever again hear someone saying "tHe MeGaLoDoN mIgHt StIlL bE aLiVe BeCaUsE..." I will just show them this video. Amazing quality, as always. Keep it up! 👍👍👍
For the conclusion, you could have just had a clip of Captain Rhodes from _Day of the Dead_ screaming _"WTF is wrong with you people?! They're dead! They're f***ing dead and you want them to play tricks?!"_
I love how the plot of the movie "the meg" is legit satire of meg believers, the movies plot is thermal volcanoes erupting making a gap in the trench that the meg escapes from
Plus it would seem like with all the records that whaling vessels had to keep over the centuries, there would be records of huge bite marks on the whales they killed and butchered.
what I've always been confused about is why so many shows and movies say that the Megalodon lived along with T-rex, even though they lived in two completely different Eras.
@@daliborjovanovic510 ya, but for those it's usually in really old stop motion movies or books for little kids. with the megalodon, there have been things from TV Movies, to "Documentaries", to even summer block busters that put the king of the dinosaurs with the largest shark to ever live
Considering recent stuff, I'd honestly like to see an episode about the new estimates for Bruhathkayosaurus and especially one about how heavy the newly-described Perucetus actually was.
Yes a large 12.3 to 15 maybe 20 meter long shark that preyed on whales is still alive at the bottom of the Mariana trench where its somehow living on the small inhabitants but also not getting crushed by the pressure, sounds logical to me
Love ya mate; I appreciate so much when people don't fool themselves or others saying "BUUUUT who knows, maybe, even if It is practically impossible, the megalodon could have survived in an absurd way just because It is cool to believe it ... (I dunno, maybe he decided to break the rap scene)"
I Gotta be honest, I would like it if there were Megalodon’s alive today. But The fossil record clearly shows that the species is indeed extinct & the reasoning for the extinction, makes sense for them to not survive to modern times. The species would have to have lived in an environment somewhere in the oceans that could sustain them for eons, an unlikely scenario so I agree with the science. But……I can dream can I?
If anyone wants more videos like this, debunking the myth of the meg being alive, I recommend AVNJ! He's an ichthyologist (Fish biologist) who likes to react to shitty top 10 lists about the meg. In the meantime, enjoy Red Raptor Writes because he's cool too, it's just this is his only video on the subject. Nevermind, he mentions him in the video, I'll just shut up.
8:05 The youtuber Mikalus, stated before that those who use that argument don't care about the lack of whales in the trench, because whales were a major food source for megalodon
Know what's funnier? Even if the Megalodon survived to the Pleistocene (which it did not) it would still be extinct. Mammooths, ground sloths and sabertooth cats lived in the Pleistocence yet they still died out
I think I should say this at 18:52 you got the name wrong it's livyatan it was originally called leviathan in 2008 but was changed because a species of mastodon already had it
If the Megalodon still "existed" it would be much smaller in order to survive the changing environment it was in so it wouldn't be Megalodon anymore but an animal that had to compete with the great white after it could no longer acquire its original food source.
For point number 3, I would say that the Meg was very huge, and would require a lot of food. As climate began to change, the Meg’s food began to die out or become less dispersed, and most other options were too small to make much of a bite out of a whale. Even if the Meg began evolving, remember that evolution takes millions of years, and the Meg just can’t evolve with the snap of a finger. With its food source reduced, the Meg would have died before it even began to make changes.
When you got to your #5 segment on photo "evidence", I immediately thought of this joke by comedian Mitch Hedberg, which has always been a favorite of mine: "I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. 'Cuz there's a large out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run, he's fuzzy! Get out of here!"
I honestly think I'm more likely to believe in ghosts way before I believe that Megalodon survived extinction. I also couldn't help but roll my eyes watching the Meg 2 trailer when a T-Rex for some reason runs into an ocean like some movie monster, and why a Megalodon thought such tiny prey was worth its time and beaching itself. I'm already getting too mad.
@@govardhanposina17 Yeah, I'm also pretty sure it roared into the water for some reason as if it actively trying to terrify creatures rather than hunt. And approached the water without a care in the world (knowing full well of the non-megalodon related sea life that could be in there).
As a kid I loved Shark Week after the 2013 Megalodon lie-umentary I stopped watching. It was depressing a educational channel would shamelessly lie to their audience
even if terrible argument number 3 was correct that would mean its no longer megalodon the adaptions for deep sea life would be so drastic like maybe getting smaller and more that it would be an entire new species so yeah megalodon is still gone by this argument evolving to ... I dont know let me think of a name... Otodus arcanum
TL;DW in order for Megalodon to still exist and remain undiscovered, it would have to have changed so much it's not a Megalodon anymore.
Yes
Finally someone said it
Not even to remain as a subspecies of megalodon, it would be otodus something?
@damian5528 yeah it may still be in the genus Otodus. *IF* the genus actually still extant, it'll probably get a name like "Otodus inexpectatus"
@@TanupatYTyea
The best thing about the "They evolved!" argument is that evolving to the extent needed to live in deep cold barren water would mean it's no longer O. megalodon anymore, but a completely new animal. So megalodon would still be extinct, and we'd be hunting for a new unknown life form. It would be like humans evolving to have wings and other adaptations for flight, no longer would we be Homo sapiens but Homo avias.
and humans evolving to swim becoming Homo Aquatis
Nice Gate (Megaman X6) profile image. ;)
Yeah I like this hypothesis though, at least it leaves room for a direct descendant to still exist without throwing the record off too much.
Same animal, a shark. Just got bigger or smaller depending on which trait it needs to survive.
Those idiots dont know how evolution works
One more argument for megalodon being extinct: keep in mind that orcas as we know them (large apex predators) only evolved after megalodon’s demise, and the ancestral orcas that lived before then were much smaller-the size of smaller dolphins-and unable to hunt even small marine mammals (meaning they weren’t competitors for even newborn megalodon let alone the adults).
If megalodon hadn’t gone extinct, orcas would have never stepped into its ecological shoes and become the recognizable apex predators they are right now.
Not to mention that Orcas would absolutely murder a megalodon.
Like, right back into extinction murder.
@@joshuastrittmatter4188
Eh, I doubt that, because megalodon was very much used to dealing with various raptorial sperm whales and even outlasted them (it went extinct in an interval where it had no cetacean competition-orcas hadn’t become raptorial yet and its old rivals were gone).
@bkjeong4302 this implies the orcas let the meg live to adult size. They would beat the children to death for fun
Idk since one bite and that orcas gonna be atomized like alot of risk for everyone involved
MEGALODON IS EXTINCT!?! I HAD NO IDEA!! Who in their right minds be stupid enough to believe that O. Megalodon *didn't* go extinct?
I love this PaleoMyth Series, I hope there's gonna be more in the future.
Megalania: I know how you feel Meg.
Someone like Jack Horner
There are way too many people that believe it is exists. I used to when I was a child.
I want to see one Paleo myth get Perfection and/or Possibly.
SO many people...! LOL
A fantastic "deep dive" into why these claims on the Megalodon still being alive are usually either baseless or heavily flawed. Very funny, too. Great video as always.
Loved the play on words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video 🙂
"Perhaps megalodon evolved"
If O. megalodon evolved to be able to sustain abyssal pressure, temperatures and diet .... Then it's not O. megalodon anymore, it's another species of giant shark XD
And i don't think any animal the size of meg would be able to live in the abyss
More ideas:
5. Torosaurus = Triceratops
6. Aquatic Spinosaurus
7. 3 Tyrannosaurus species
8. Validity of Dakotaraptor
How about these as well?
9. Megalania still being alive
10. Hadrosaurs were defenceless meat bags
11. Nanotyrannus
@@joshuaW5621 12. Patagotitan being called the largest dinosaur
Edit: Though I have thoughts on 9 and 10, theyr'e too easy to debunk by simply saying “Megalania isn't alive anymore because even if it evolved into Komodo Dragon, it cannot be considered as Megalania” and “Hardosaurs are not predator sacks”. Also, Megalania is a nomen dubium, it's now called Varanus priscus.
About Dakotaraptor, I firmly trust it's still a valid genus cause we don't have just those bones thought to be from a turtle. We have large raptor Sickle claw and those arms with even preserved holes that would hold flight feathers. With that said, a big raptor most likely existed in Hell Creek like is Dakotaraptor portrayed.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Dakotaraptor_Skeleton_Reconstruction.jpg
www.fossilera.com/p/503/dakotaraptor-features.png
Dakotaraptor is valid. A part of it's bones was a turtle. So what? We still found a 25 cm sickle claw and giant dromeosaur teeth, so we know that it's a dromeosaur. Dakotaraptor is a completely valid genus. If it was a few unidentifiable bines, tyen an argument could be made, but we have evidence that a large dromeosaur lived in Hell Creek
13. 273 ft Spinosaurus
14. Pleistocene megafauna extinction caused by humans
15. Deinonychus as apex predator
16. Homo aquaticus existence (who watched Animal Planet will know 🗿)
Size is a specialisation; the bigger an animal is, the more specialised it is, and the more specialised an animal is, the more vulnerable it will likely to be to changes in the environment and ecosystem.
Calling any of it "Evidence" is giving them too much credit because evidence suggests there is something that can be reasonably discussed and in the case of megladon being alive isn't reasonable.
Megalodon is such a fascinating and terrifying animal, it gives me chills knowing a shark this massive was actually real, even if it’s exact appearance is still a mystery. That said, I used to believe that the Megalodon was still alive in the oceans because I bought into the “95% of the ocean is still unexplored” BS, not to mention shark week airing the sharkzilla the monster shark lives mockumentary that claimed it had proof of a still living Megalodon (even say I used to believe that cryptids like Mokele Mbembe were living dinosaurs that survived extinction). Thankfully I’ve matured enough to do the research and accept the fact that not only there is no living Megalodon roaming the oceans today, but shark week has spread this myth to the public, creating a lot of misinformation on the subject, and don’t even get me started on the recent Meg film adaptations starring Jason Statham, that depict the Megalodon as a monster than an animal.
There are some cryptids I’m curious about, Bigfoot being pretty much the only one I think has the potential to be real. But considering what the Megalodon is and what it hunted, we’d definitely have come across it sooner or later.
Also on the monster thing, I kinda hate the ‘it’s not a monster’ thing, because while yes its true, doesn’t stop that its a gigantic, terrifying beast that could easily wreck boats if it was still alive. Same with dinosaurs and even modern day animals like bears and elephants.
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 I understand where you’re going from, but what I was actually referring to was the whole media sensationalism of that statement that gets spread to the public, thus creating that mindset.
Mokele Mbembe may or may not still exist, just not as a dinosaur. Perhaps just a case of convergent evolution.
@@FrancisCastiglione I personally believe that the Mokele Mbembe (if it were a real animal) is some type of giant lizard or mammal that superficially resembles a sauropod (or is a convergent evolution, like you said).
Omg I'm so glad you covered the "5 percent" myth in this video. We've mapped the ocean's surface with satellites, we've mapped the floor with sonar, we've mapped it by heat, by depth, by currents, by salinity, and any other way you could think of. MAYBE we've only been to 5 percent of it in person, but ultimately that doesn't matter. The only possible way for the meg to escape us is if it shrunk down to 1 foot in length, and is now surviving on snailfish.
@@amn2760 uh, what? No. The floor would be about as much as the surface.. because that's how water works
That could be a possible theory for a descendant, but then again, too short of a time for it to evolve.
Its literaly more likely that some small bird-like non-avian theropod survived to cenozoic than megalodon being alive today.
Considering how rediculously unlikely that is that's definitely saying something.
Birds:...............nice.......
@@manzac112 They said non-avian
probably in Madagascar, India or the Indian Ocean islands.
@@alisona.4166 Yeah I agree...wait what if some birds today are infact dromaeosaurids or troodontids and not avialids, but we dont know because we dont have DNA to compare
Something that Red Raptor doesn’t touch on in Argument #4 is the fact that, even if the teeth actually WERE 11,000-24,000 years old, that alone wouldn’t mean Otodus megalodon survived to the present day. They could easily represent the time that the last O. megalodon was on Earth (if the method used was actually reliable, of course).
The megalodon is still alive.
Source: I am the megalodon.
Bright side moment
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Well you see my grandfather’s uncle’s cousin’s chicken told me they saw a really big megalodon so you’re wrong
You sure it was him and not his roomate?
A shame this argument didn’t make it into the video.
My grandfather's roommate's dog toys told him they saw a really huge megalodon as well, this guy must clearly be capping!
About the "coelacanth argument". Is important to notice that THE WESTERN SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY discovered it in 1938, but the locals knew about it for years (in fact, it was "discovered" in a fish market). It's not like it just popped out of nowhere. If megalodon was still alive, it would have been known all across the world for years.
Thanks for pointing out the biggest activist against all the bullsh*t lies being spread about the megalodon’s existence. AVNJ is such a good UA-camr and I feel he deserves more love.
Real Episode Ideas: Sabre-Tooth lips (including gorgonopsids), Is Spinosaurus a chimera (based on some art I saw from CM Koseman), or Fossils inspired myths and creatures
Joke Episode Ideas: Was T-Rex a scavenger, “Too big to walk”, or Fossils inspired myths and creatures (this could be either or)
I just want to see one get "Perfection."
A joke episode should also include the Spinofaarus.
He already debunked that T. rex scavenger theory in his Valley of the T. rex review
@@amn2760 All true but that's not the right definition of theory; The word you're looking for is falsehood.
Another mock episode would be hadrosaurs being defenceless answer easy:no
I’m delighted to see this series back and I hope we can get these more often.
There is a similar myth about Megalania still being alive. I recommend covering that in a future video.
At least the Varanus priscus one is mildly plausible since the Pleistocene ended rather recently and there is a precedent of monitor lizards laying eggs with parthenogenesis.
Hey dude, will you do a myth video about hadrosaurs being predator fodders (as shown in Jurassic Fight Club and Jurassic World media)? I want to see you debunking this myth.
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We NEED more Hadrosaur Appreciation.
Easily debunked with the saying "Hadrosaurs are POWERFUL!"
Justice for hadrosaurs of course. And can we also debunk the claim that Megalania still exists too?
They can kill you.
I knew this would be fun and it didn't disappoint, thanks for the laughs. I really enjoy your witty & informative content.
talking about extinct animals, what do you think are the chances the trilobite is still alive somewhere?
More likely than a Megalodon but still very very low unless new real evidence says otherwise.
There are bigger than megalodon i bet
that’d be pretty cool
@@redraptorwrites6778
A while back, I pondered the likelihood of something similar happening with Anomalocaris. Needless to say, though, a descendant of that animal living in the deep sea would be very different from the Cambrian animal we know.
But nonetheless, I think a hypothetical Anomalocaris-like arthropod living in the deep sea would be pretty neat. It might also look no less bizarre than many other documented deep sea life and be similarly sized as those creatures, unlike a 50-ton Megalodon.
@@redraptorwrites6778the only extinct animals that I think have a chance of still being alive are ones who went extinct during the Pleistiocene or Holocene. Thylacoleo to be honest might have a bit of a chance
I feel that the coelacanth argument debunk can be boiled down to: just because one kind of fish survived an asteroid doesn't mean another kind survived an ice age.
Also, imagine a universe where Megladon did in fact survive, and that fact would not only common knowledge, but Otodus megladon would get the name "Great White Shark" and Carcharadon carcarias would get "Lesser White Shark", or something along those lines.
17:13 = Not a Greenland Shark (Somniosus microcephalus) which is restricted to the north Atlantic, but it's congeneric cousin the Pacific Sleeper Shark (Somniosus pacificus). Filmed in Suruga Bay, Japan at a depth of c.4000 ft in Sep 13, 1989 from the submersible Nautile.
I think the idea of saying the Megalodon is alive is like saying T-rex is alive.
gonna be honest the only reason I ever believed megalodon was still alive was because megalodon was my favorite shark and I didn't want it to be extinct ;(
People,also seem to forget that the megalodon wasn’t just one shark, it was an entire damn species, would not be hard to find at all
One Word
No
For Earths Conditions Today It Wouldn’t Be Possible For The Meg To Survive Than It Was When The Meg Was Around
The megalodon was that size because they ate whales as a snack, but when those whales became too small and too scarce, they were forced to adapt to hunting smaller prey. These actions put them in direct competition with the ancestors of sharks we see today. There came a point when they couldn’t keep up anymore, and they went extinct as a result.
Wrong. I found a breeding population of megalodons in my bathtub. They're alive and well, but I will not divulge their location.
You just said they were in your bathtub..so you kinda said their location
@@pierre-samuelroux9364 You don't know where the bathtub is though.
@@Bagelgeuse ;)
I watch you in the 🛀 Avery day
1:30, missed the chance to say "Let's pull the Megalodon"
Can’t wait for a 4 year old to go on their moms phone and go
“NO!!!! THE MEGALODON IS ALIVE YOU IDIOT!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬”- 4 Year old Kid
Anyways if the Meg did exist today, it will be smaller then it used to be
it's honestly kinda disappointing that this video had to be made, why do people still want to believe that a warm water surface-dwelling apex predator shark would still exist
I think it's just becuase they want the big cool shark to still be around, and they don't care if facts show it isn't.
You've clearly never seen the documentary "The Meg"
@@thagomizer1are you kidding?
Megalodon is alive... In our hearts.
I loved you used the kid glasses of the Polar Express to represent the people who believe the meg is still with us. Your voice acting there was spot on.
If The Megalodon was still alive in current year, it won't look like a resized White Shark, which makes many depictions so disappointing. It wood be a battered beast, a living ecosystem.
True, also it be extremely hungry at all times because it's 60 feet bloody long and weighs alot like idunno almost beyond ten tons.
Thing is, it never looked like a jumbo white shark in real life, since the shape of its jaws are different. It had a shorter broader flatter snout, more akin to a tiger shark.
I have this strange fascination with megalodon when I was young and still have to this day because Megalodon is an interesting and terrifying animal that lived in our oceans for millions years ago. I used to believe that the megalodon still exists and alive in our oceans when I was young, but now I’m more matured and learn the facts from real scientists (looking at you megalodon: the monster shark lives mockumentary). Speaking about that mockumentary, I rewatched that mockumentary for nostalgia (that mockumentary used to scare me when I was young in 2013 when it first aired on TV) and the meg from 2018 (I’m definitely excited for the sequel).
Obvious result. If I will ever again hear someone saying "tHe MeGaLoDoN mIgHt StIlL bE aLiVe BeCaUsE..." I will just show them this video. Amazing quality, as always. Keep it up! 👍👍👍
Imagine believing the megladon is still alive
For the conclusion, you could have just had a clip of Captain Rhodes from _Day of the Dead_ screaming _"WTF is wrong with you people?! They're dead! They're f***ing dead and you want them to play tricks?!"_
I love how the plot of the movie "the meg" is legit satire of meg believers, the movies plot is thermal volcanoes erupting making a gap in the trench that the meg escapes from
Plus it would seem like with all the records that whaling vessels had to keep over the centuries, there would be records of huge bite marks on the whales they killed and butchered.
what I've always been confused about is why so many shows and movies
say that the Megalodon lived along with T-rex, even though they lived in two completely different Eras.
The same reason you will see T. rex hunting Stegosaurus or Brontosaurus in media.
@@daliborjovanovic510 ya, but for those it's usually in really old stop motion movies or books for little kids.
with the megalodon, there have been things from TV Movies, to "Documentaries", to even summer block busters that put the king of the dinosaurs with the largest shark to ever live
The Meg vs Moby Dick rivalry is possibly the greatest aquatic "Clash of the Titans" in Earth's history.
Considering recent stuff, I'd honestly like to see an episode about the new estimates for Bruhathkayosaurus and especially one about how heavy the newly-described Perucetus actually was.
Who tf thought of this-
Like bruh at this point they have the iq of a robot failling the "prove your not a robot" test 💀
Yes a large 12.3 to 15 maybe 20 meter long shark that preyed on whales is still alive at the bottom of the Mariana trench where its somehow living on the small inhabitants but also not getting crushed by the pressure, sounds logical to me
Love ya mate; I appreciate so much when people don't fool themselves or others saying "BUUUUT who knows, maybe, even if It is practically impossible, the megalodon could have survived in an absurd way just because It is cool to believe it ...
(I dunno, maybe he decided to break the rap scene)"
If the megalodon did evolve and is alive today, then it’s not a megalodon
I Gotta be honest, I would like it if there were Megalodon’s alive today. But The fossil record clearly shows that the species is indeed extinct & the reasoning for the extinction, makes sense for them to not survive to modern times. The species would have to have lived in an environment somewhere in the oceans that could sustain them for eons, an unlikely scenario so I agree with the science. But……I can dream can I?
I know it's not. Im just hear to listen to the raptor rants 😂
When i saw AVNJ's video i got so happy since i am a fan of his and you're channel
It’s probably hiding under my bed because nobody looks under there
No, the fishsticks in my freezer are the megalodon.
“Quick, where’s the worst camera in history”
Megalodons will only show themselves when twitter gets deleted.
An idea for the next video in the series: the evidence of social behavior in Smilodon
hopefully next paleo myth will be either were rexes as smart as baboons (nonsense imo) or the dromeosaurid pack hunting
Or hadrosaurs being fodders
I'm sure rex smart,all animals can be in their own right,but yea maybe not as baboon
If anyone wants more videos like this, debunking the myth of the meg being alive, I recommend AVNJ! He's an ichthyologist (Fish biologist) who likes to react to shitty top 10 lists about the meg. In the meantime, enjoy Red Raptor Writes because he's cool too, it's just this is his only video on the subject.
Nevermind, he mentions him in the video, I'll just shut up.
Wait, wait, wait, hold up for just one moment. Why did you pay to see the Emoji movie in theatre?
I wanted to see how bad it was. I was not mentally prepared.
15:29
“Smilodon is still alive!” (Shows a Photoshopped image or a video of a cougar and calls that “proof”).
8:05 The youtuber Mikalus, stated before that those who use that argument don't care about the lack of whales in the trench, because whales were a major food source for megalodon
Can you do a paleomyths video on The T-Rex having a 'septic bite' like a komodo dragon?
My sister believes that the megladon still exists I'm definitely showing her this .
So, how did it go?
Give updates
@@Mr.Wetherilli will do
@@Mr.Wetherillishowed her the video, yeah she doesn't believe that anymore
@@Ledinosour673showed her, she doesn't believe it exists anymore
And perfect timing given the Meg 2 is coming around the corner
Whenever the layest of mans sees a basking shark from above their brain says 'Its a Megaldon.'
Bright side be like
Know what's funnier? Even if the Megalodon survived to the Pleistocene (which it did not) it would still be extinct. Mammooths, ground sloths and sabertooth cats lived in the Pleistocence yet they still died out
Perhaps it evolved to be a open sea shark, or like wolves, following the 'herds' along the migration routes.
1:29 that image is just hilarious.
Yeah! That's also from I believe Sharknado 3.
11:40
Bro destroyed his own jaw
Man big paleo gotten to him
Ironically there is more proof that giant 40ft Coelacanth like fishes existing in the deep waters than Megalodon still existing.
would've been funny if the whole video was just 20 minutes of red raptor saying "No" in varying tones
can you make a video about the "second brain" myth? I'm infuriated that myth showed it's ass up in Pacific Rim, in 2013!!!
I think I should say this
at 18:52 you got the name wrong it's livyatan it was originally called leviathan in 2008 but was changed because a species of mastodon already had it
Some guy: “Megalodon is still alive!”
Oh yes, of course! Did you also know that the earth is flat?
I have a new ranking for you: Michael rosen’s “she looked like she had never seen anything quite so horrible in all her life”
Finally Paleomyths is back!!!
Who is here excited and prepared for new Meg 2 trench?🦈🦈🦈
NO!
cant wait! it's going to be so fun!!
Me but it’s gona be bonkers
I’m so excited for it, I think it might turn out better than the first
I’d rather have a Megalodon documentary.
If the Megalodon still "existed" it would be much smaller in order to survive the changing environment it was in so it wouldn't be Megalodon anymore but an animal that had to compete with the great white after it could no longer acquire its original food source.
You should do the myth about the spinosaerus swiming
Principal Skinner says no... That's all I need.
For point number 3, I would say that the Meg was very huge, and would require a lot of food. As climate began to change, the Meg’s food began to die out or become less dispersed, and most other options were too small to make much of a bite out of a whale. Even if the Meg began evolving, remember that evolution takes millions of years, and the Meg just can’t evolve with the snap of a finger. With its food source reduced, the Meg would have died before it even began to make changes.
As my way of showing my appreciation for your videos on dinosaurs.
15:43 Perfect clip choice!
I think we should put a tier lower than "that idea is just the worst" for this Paleo myth.
Say it as “Impossible!”
When you got to your #5 segment on photo "evidence", I immediately thought of this joke by comedian Mitch Hedberg, which has always been a favorite of mine:
"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. 'Cuz there's a large out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run, he's fuzzy! Get out of here!"
even there's no way the meg still is alive, i still think it's fun to pretend, like santa
Everybody cool enough to be able to watch red raptor knows megalodon is dead
Yeah, I didn't think his audience and the people who believe this stupid theory line up at all.
Well done. This video will be added as another video that proofs that Megalodon is extinct.
I honestly think I'm more likely to believe in ghosts way before I believe that Megalodon survived extinction.
I also couldn't help but roll my eyes watching the Meg 2 trailer when a T-Rex for some reason runs into an ocean like some movie monster, and why a Megalodon thought such tiny prey was worth its time and beaching itself. I'm already getting too mad.
Also said T.rex was chasing some small prehistoric lizard, like why would a rex even bother wasting its energy behind such a small animal
@@govardhanposina17 Yeah, I'm also pretty sure it roared into the water for some reason as if it actively trying to terrify creatures rather than hunt. And approached the water without a care in the world (knowing full well of the non-megalodon related sea life that could be in there).
Im always gonna link this video whenever I see someone say Megalodon still exist.
Me when nanotyrannus walks in😮
3:35 DAT MAN?
@redraptorwrites6778
The Megalodon bs just makes me want to put a sign in the ocean saying "OTODUS MEGALODON ISN'T ALIVE, ***HOLES!"
As a kid I loved Shark Week after the 2013 Megalodon lie-umentary I stopped watching. It was depressing a educational channel would shamelessly lie to their audience
You know it would be interesting to see what a deep-sea, probably feeding on large cephalopods, otodes descendant would look like.
even if terrible argument number 3 was correct that would mean its no longer megalodon the adaptions for deep sea life would be so drastic like maybe getting smaller and more that it would be an entire new species so yeah megalodon is still gone by this argument evolving to ... I dont know let me think of a name... Otodus arcanum
If we havent Explored the ocean so much then where is godzilla🤨
Ok so this is so perfectly timed that I've been getting ads for THE MEG 2
Because apparently there's going to be a sequel
bUT iTs iN THe mArIaNa trENcH!!!!!!!!!!
Nope!