Why I Quit LOST ARK After 4500 Hours

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  • @krumdark
    @krumdark Рік тому +404

    The end of an era .. man I used to love watching this guy before lost ark release. We will miss you and your content

    • @HouseofGausss
      @HouseofGausss Рік тому +3

      Thats the problem, people used to watch him before Western release and after it did, they moved onto other 'content' creators just because of popularity or some shit and forgot all about the OG fans who took so much effort to help new players understand the game.

    • @krumdark
      @krumdark Рік тому +2

      @@HouseofGausss it really is sad because it definitely felt like some of those content creators that helped it get going really did fall under the radar.

    • @HouseofGausss
      @HouseofGausss Рік тому +3

      @@krumdark It did, because the majority of community valued HC mindset and extreme opinions mixed with flair over down to earth relaxed content like Sywo's

    • @krumdark
      @krumdark Рік тому

      @@HouseofGausss yep it really became such a hardcore driven game.. really sucks it had to go that way

    • @EckoUntitl
      @EckoUntitl Рік тому +1

      Been following him since the og days of Aion,he always had the best and most complete raid guides then.I quit LA for the exact same sentiment,i wish mmo players were like him,games wouldn't be half as shitty.

  • @bullitt411
    @bullitt411 Рік тому +256

    Thanks for everything brother, you're the primary content creator that really got me interested in Lost Ark many years ago. I put in over 3k hours myself in this western release and ultimately quit a few months ago. It's a fantastic game, but the core mechanic of every single day being a chore to gather resources was too much like actual work and sucked the fun out of playing. I'm certain your focus will shift to a new game, and I'll be there for the new content. Your opinions an insights will always be appreciated regardless the game you're currently playing.

    • @rafaelandresantunez
      @rafaelandresantunez Рік тому

      Retweet

    • @EnjoyGengar
      @EnjoyGengar Рік тому +1

      fantastic game till you realise devs try to milk you.

    • @jackalo34
      @jackalo34 Рік тому +1

      I took a 4 month and a 2 month break from the game in the time it was released in the west then also decidedly quit despite putting 4.5k hours into the game. I loved combt but it rly just felt like chore simulator.

  • @MrKOBE24252425
    @MrKOBE24252425 Рік тому +70

    Congrats on the 3rd child! And thank you for the content you have provided for us! Wishing you the best in your next steps in life and gaming!

  • @AiyxSyntax
    @AiyxSyntax Рік тому +64

    I started playing from watching you thank you so much for all the time you put into it 😁

    • @Lokuzdeckel
      @Lokuzdeckel Рік тому +4

      yeah same lol. i started 2 weeks ago (kinda cause of you) and i am now stuck at 1370 cause no one want to go argos or abyss hard mode with me (wich i kinda can understand i am a waste of time).
      thinking about quitting again. but gameplay is really fun... sadge

  • @wilsonowen21
    @wilsonowen21 Рік тому +43

    I remember finding your channel and was so excited for the Lost Ark western release. I stopped at around 1k hours. Was a great time at the beginning but now I can't touch the game. The amount of gatekeeping and just toxicity in general is really sad to see. The last time I played someone sent me a death threat in a Guardian Raid and that one was the end of it. Excited to see your content about other games!

    • @axy4714
      @axy4714 Рік тому +6

      100% agree with this. I was super excited for lost ark in the west and remember feeling a genuine excitement when the game first released going through all the content and getting to tier 3 and thinking like "wow this game is so good and its only gonna get better with legion raids" but legion raids are what ended up killing the game for me. Like at some point it lost the plot of being a fun experience and it just became a non stop carrot on a stick boss rush simulator. Really sad because the class design, the environments, the gameplay are all unmatched for a top down mmo.

    • @twistedumbrella7537
      @twistedumbrella7537 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I was playing the game as much as possible since release and I also stopped playing at 1k hours. Realized there were a bunch of other games that I wanted to play, that I could not play, because I was playing Lost Ark.

    • @MrBFoRally
      @MrBFoRally Рік тому +3

      Death threat , the players kill the game 😢

    • @rjacks3284
      @rjacks3284 Рік тому +1

      same lost ark has such a toxic and sweaty community it doesn't feel like a mmo at all.

    • @Lain2-c
      @Lain2-c Рік тому +4

      @@rjacks3284 cause it has similarities with league of legends
      and atleast huge chunk of playerbase came from league and not other mmorpgs, creating toxic & unhealthy enviroment

  • @KhaoticKaos
    @KhaoticKaos Рік тому +9

    As someone who has completed every raid available on NA many times I'm just gonna say it, Lost Ark raids after Valtan are seriously flawed. Instead of focusing on Lost Arks amazing combat, the raids after Valtan are 75% memorizing annoying puzzles that wipe the entire raid if 1 person screws up. They are completely missing the point of Lost Ark best feature, the characters and combat. After I got my brelshaza set I never want to do the raid again, because more than half the time I feel like im just walking around doing stupidly annoying puzzles instead of just FIGHTING.

  • @BGriffith85
    @BGriffith85 Рік тому +20

    I quit 6 weeks ago, feels good.. Had a great time, but the homework finally got to me. No regrets, but all good things come to an end.

    • @___IG
      @___IG Рік тому

      🫡

    • @tfc1193
      @tfc1193 Рік тому

      Quit a little over a month ago and it's bitter sweet. I'm enjoying my time playing other games but it's just sad that lost ark could never live up to it's potential

    • @BuffPomsky
      @BuffPomsky Рік тому

      Same. Quit when zelda came out and just never went back due to all the free time I had.
      All in all, made some great memories, still love the visuals and combat, and am happy with the time spent :)

  • @Stoopzz
    @Stoopzz Рік тому +1

    Thanks for all of the Lost Ark Content Sywo! I know you will make great videos for ANY game you choose to play!

  • @GNPgaming
    @GNPgaming Рік тому +46

    Thank you for your contents on Lost Ark. I stopped at 2600hrs in NA since I felt that the game is becoming a chore. It was fun playing the game with my friends. Looking forward on your new game contents moving forward SYWO \m/

  • @dante58
    @dante58 Рік тому +88

    If anyone has been the best advertisement for playing this game it's this guy. If he's had enough then the game is truly done. Maybe smilegate will turn it around but even if they do it will take years, None of these games turn that quickly. I hope you find things you love, Sywo. I really appreciate all the great videos you've done over the years.

  • @JynRoh
    @JynRoh Рік тому +4

    Honestly lost ark should mostly be a power fantasy game, i love challenging content but have grown to hate mmo communities, they need to go back to valtan-ish difficulty and leave it there and have hell mode for people that want something harder, it wont get rid of the gatekeeping but it would help a bit.

    • @___IG
      @___IG Рік тому

      This right here. If you want hard shit, put it for cosmetics and inferno challenges not basic progression. Valtan is perfect

    • @masterchiff6784
      @masterchiff6784 Рік тому

      Valtan was the perfect raid because when you make it to ghost phase you can still finish the raid with like 3-4 dudes.
      In other raids 1 dude gets wiped and you gotta restart.

  • @ying0878
    @ying0878 Рік тому +21

    Same. After 2900 hours, I managed to get over my sunk cost feeling and quit. It's crazy how much time has been freed up for me, and I'm a lot happier doing a larger variety of things now. Wishing the best for you and the future of your channel!

    • @BuffPomsky
      @BuffPomsky Рік тому +3

      I think most players are staying exactly due to that sunk cost feeling. Either due to all the time spent or money used, quitting makes it feel like it was a waste. If you had a fun time in the game, then it's never a waste and it's okay to move on!

    • @schoudh
      @schoudh Рік тому

      I just only play like 2 days of the week. I stopped caring about being efficient like 8 months ago

  • @odlaner7650
    @odlaner7650 Рік тому +17

    Huge congratulations on your third baby. sorry to see u stop as well. i myself have stopped playing a few months now but it has been for the better. All the best :)

    • @BIGHEADjr51
      @BIGHEADjr51 Рік тому +1

      I played more while having an infant than I do w him older

  • @treyouth2834
    @treyouth2834 Рік тому +2

    The notion about being okay with money spent, but having it be worth the value is so true. My buddy just legit swiped like $150 and only got ONE decent card. Lol its disrespectful at this point.

  • @TrickmasteH
    @TrickmasteH Рік тому +2

    4500 Hours & I quit as well. I hope if they take what they have learned and when they make Lost Ark 2. Its so easy to do. I truly believe there is a great opportunity for Smile Gate in the future to remake the game & make it right. I don't think they can fix all the core issues with this current game and make it good....there is just TOO much that has already created a chain reaction, the cats out of the bag.... its hard to put it back. I love Lost Ark, playing new classes & building them but the mental cost / financial cost / time cost does not feel rewarding. Combat / Raiding / Good People there was some great experience's along the way, but they all left as well. I pray the Status Quo to change, make the game for the player, not the amount of $ you can monetize the game for & force FOMO / GATEKEEPING.

    • @___IG
      @___IG Рік тому +1

      🫡

  • @Frenchieeeee
    @Frenchieeeee Рік тому +3

    yep.. played a lot early on and within that time spent $200 and still couldnt catch up with whales. Thankfully it wasnt a $4000 lesson to know the game is P2W. Also absolutely hated having to multi character. They did this as a way for you to have to spend more to "invest" but truth be told you'd be better off if this system was never in place to begin with.
    I think you should keep going, even if it isnt with Lost Ark.

  • @HeiLong24
    @HeiLong24 Рік тому +44

    for me this is a disheartening video. you were one of the first content creators that I looked to when starting out Lost Ark and a lot of your info got me through the beginning of the game and learning the "bread & butter" mechanics. over time I always looked forward to your videos & videos w/ others because you genuinely seem like a chill dude, overall nice & positive.
    the LOA community in the west loses a standup citizen/role-model with this video, but onwards to bigger & better things for you

  • @kaizah1997
    @kaizah1997 Рік тому +8

    I can relate to this.
    For me, I asked myself the "Gamer Question", which is why I play the game? Every day I felt like I am being "obliged" to do dailies to keep up with my friends and the game as a whole, and as a gamer that also works (like most of us, tbf) and don't enjoy supporting the P2W aspect, it always stressed me out to miss stuff like a Chaos Dungeon, a Daily Raid and the need to do the weekly raids, it really takes a toll on my thinking and I try to squeeze everything as much as possible, and that made think of why am I playing a game that stresses me out instead of actually being a stress release.
    I think my life now is better (not so much better in the dramatic sense, but every bit counts), I am playing single player games tha t I do enjoy on my own free time, playing other MMOs with friend that are actually not as punishing in doing dailies. I am actually having fun gaming and became stress-free in that regard.
    It's suprising how much I feel I've gained, mentally, since I quit LAO, and sure I do miss my friends but we're still in touch. And now, I am happy to be a true gamer, again.

  • @Darkholow
    @Darkholow Рік тому +7

    I also quit after 5700hours logged in the past year. I felt that it took way too long and the necessity of doing the raids every single week so you get the gold needed to hone is what burned me out completely. Everything felt like a chore..I already do that in WoW (dailys that take way less time for some gold so I can sustain my mythic raiding habbits..but I only raid 3 days a week).
    I had really a lot of fun with Lost Ark and got my main to 1580 and 5 characters at 1540 and 13 others because I liked the gameplay. But I really wanted to play some other games and keeping up with Lost Ark just doesn't feel worth it anymore (the fact that my static died when Brel hard released also didn't help my motivation to keep playing).
    I'm actually happy that I managed to not buy anything to increase my power. I only bought some Lost Ark passes and bundles that came with wallpapers/pets. I think around what I spent on the game since launch was around 300-400 euro on those things.

  • @rob9368
    @rob9368 Рік тому +3

    Funny how we all burned out for the same reasons. UA-camrs/streamers just took longer to burn out.

    • @TheRealTrucido
      @TheRealTrucido Рік тому +3

      Because they were getting paid to do it.

  • @therain7218
    @therain7218 Рік тому +5

    I was more excited for Lost Ark than any other game in a long while. I enjoyed the western release and its unfortunate that it became a chore game. I will miss all of the flashy moves and the feelign the combat and the world gave me.

  • @mr.nobody5279
    @mr.nobody5279 Рік тому +2

    Man saw the good life, D4 legit made him give up on LA insane.

  • @mrgrimm25
    @mrgrimm25 Рік тому +3

    you know its bad when sywo quits

  • @Mochi-yo1ro
    @Mochi-yo1ro Рік тому +3

    Thanks for your content thus far, it was enjoyable. looking forward to you future content!
    I was 1300-1400 hrs in , what made me quit was:
    1) Gatekeeping (let's face it, people don't want to wipe) In a raid of 8 players, pretty sure one of the 7 other players will start to freak out when they are wiped.
    2) Dailies (anyone interested in second job ? ) (Chaos , Guardians, Raid is now hiring ! )
    3) Unforgiving to new players (LOS card set, 5x3 engravings, gem lvl.7+ , ilvl, titles) all these (refer to item 1) also involved in gatekeeping.

  • @gr8b8m85
    @gr8b8m85 Рік тому +3

    Smilegate only cares about money and designed the game to pressure you via chores and gatekeeping to spend real money in order to even enjoy your time. This is great for capturing whales but nobody else. I saw this coming a year ago and long since quit. It's sad because your guides were really good, hopefully we can see more in a different game that actually respects your time :)

    • @sow213
      @sow213 Рік тому

      You haven't played other games that are only interested in real money.

    • @gr8b8m85
      @gr8b8m85 Рік тому

      @@sow213 Paying for power directly shouldn't even be a thing, but yeah since gachas and mobile games normalized it the goalposts have been moved so far that people will even defend this.

  • @TheRealTrucido
    @TheRealTrucido Рік тому +1

    3k hours in as of last Nov. I quit because I just want to play 1 character and not be punished for it.

  • @Schnarchnase
    @Schnarchnase Рік тому +8

    Watching this is actually heartbreaking to me.
    Thank you for all the quality time, the great guides and just the fun raid times together. Especially the off-stream Kakuls!

    • @Schnarchnase
      @Schnarchnase Рік тому

      Also, congratulations on the third child. Wishing your wife the best health possible!

  • @lokidrake1988
    @lokidrake1988 Рік тому +4

    the true story is that the system they created for the game is the same that will bring down the game, even if they do a lot of changes on the game like Goldriver announced it wont change they only will migrate to China make money and after that close the game and move to a new one

    • @kevadu
      @kevadu Рік тому +2

      I've been saying this from the beginning. The way the game is designed it was always going to eventually lose old players and not attract new ones so it would inevitably die. And that's exactly what is happening.

    • @Kyrrua_
      @Kyrrua_ Рік тому +2

      The long story short of the game is: Lost ark is designed to either force you to pay (p2win and insane rng) or force you to invest an insane amount of time and treat the game as a second job or you do not exist (gatekeep) while devs have even abandonned horizontal fun systems (like pvp and other fun things).

  • @wintermoon619
    @wintermoon619 Рік тому +5

    You were the very first Lost Ark content creator I watched, way back when I played in RU. Your genuine enjoyment of the game was contagious to me and helped me develop a love for the game too. Fast forward to today, I'm barely doing any content in LoA myself and I see this video of yours in my feed. I wish you the very best - you indeed should enjoy games and not feel that you have to do certain things just to get by. And you should celebrate the good things IRL. Congratulations on your 3rd kid!

  • @Avrahffxiv
    @Avrahffxiv Рік тому +7

    I honestly really love your personality. I tried LA on western release and you guided me a lot of the way but I after I quit LA i still found myself enjoying your content because you come off like one of the chillest people on this site aha.

  • @_sudex
    @_sudex Рік тому +1

    sad to see u go was a pleasure playing with u buddy

  • @humblegiant4362
    @humblegiant4362 Рік тому +1

    @sywo the ENTIRE basis of ANY p2w game is "create a problem and sell the solution".. you said you felt like you were doing chores more than having fun... i'm not shitting on you here.. but thats LITERALLY the entire business model of any p2w game. They force you to endlessly grind or you can just spend thousands of dollars to keep up. How did you not know this going into the game? I played lost ark for like 2500 hours and yeah it was fun but once the FF14 itch came back.. or the diablo.. or the ESO etc.. i always knew i'd replace the game once something better came out or when i got bored. Again I'm just talkin as if i was ur buddy. The fundamental foundation of every p2w game is "chores" that's why Lost Ark started strong and slowly dying. Anyways.. go check out ff14.. 3 out of the 4 expansions are some of the best story AND musical content of any game ive ever played.. you won't be dissapointed unless you don't like tab target.

  • @Viewer13128
    @Viewer13128 Рік тому +1

    0:41 That's the easiest thing for me to spot in a game (because how hard can it be to notice you're doing chores instead of having fun?) and yet I'm surprised many players quit a year later than me. Most importantly is that mmorpg's that require you to do chores need to reward you with fruits of labor, like in OG Lineage II where you do worse than chores, but pays off in PvP, Sieges, Guild wars, etc. In Lost Ark, the chores were PvE and you get to do more PvE. It was pointless to me. In Lost Ark, I ended up just playing PvP only, then after a while I just quit. The actual game was so bad. PvE and raid bosses are so much more fun in open world mmorpg like OG Lineage II where anyone can run in to hit the raid boss or kill you to steal your raid boss. You can be fighting and have backup run in to join the raid in the middle, or friends/allies helping you fight off kill stealers. PvE is so much more social and interactive in other traditional mmorpgs. And because everything happened in open world in traditional mmorpgs with open PvP and PK, allies and friends are sooo meaningful. Ppl would not touch someone with a guild emblem in open world knowing who their allies are, etc. So much fun of mmorpg is not in Lost Ark. I never considered Lost Ark a true mmorpg.

  • @TheMysteriousgirl9
    @TheMysteriousgirl9 5 місяців тому +1

    I stopped playing Lost Ark after 3000 hours. It was very freeing. After quitting I started to grind Sea of Thieves. In that game I can take couple days off and there is zero dailies to be done. I decided to completely ignore MMORPGs since then and I'm very happy about it.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 Рік тому +1

    The other scam here is that idea that you can just get everything for free so you can't call it pay2win.
    Other games run by Asian companies do the same thing, like STO for example, where you can technically buy everything with in-game money so they have a reason to say "it's not pay2win", but in practice nobody can actually do it because of how terrible of an experience it is to spend months over months on grinding multiple ours every day in activities that were made just for this purpose and were made intentionally un-fun and time-gated as well.

  • @opposed2logic
    @opposed2logic Рік тому +1

    I quit Lost Ark after maybe 200 hours, I did it because the game forced me to engage with boring content. There were a lot of fun in the game, but to progress I had to play tons of characters and just do boring annoying daily tasks to do some sort of progression thing. If Lost Ark allowed me to play the way I wanted to Id likely still be playing, same with all the friends who started Lost Ark with me, all whom also quit early.
    The game has great design in many ways but they dont allow you to engage with it because of dark pattern toxicity. The greatness is entirely ruined imo by having these horrible fucking engagement bs mechanics

  • @MHH9811
    @MHH9811 Рік тому +1

    You said that you don't think it is the players' fault the game is dying (something along those lines) but I disagree, Lost Ark, was for me first MMO that I was able to play for more than a half year and still really loved it (played it from early access till brel release every day). In my opinion, this is one of the rare phenomenon where the community absolutely ruined the game. They ruined it with their inability to help or just play with new players. I get that game is designed the way that you need to clear 6x3 raids per week to be efficient only with pure gold income not to mention daily but these players forgot that there is no accomplishment if you can't show it to anyone because if you don't have new players game is going to die at one point. After all, old/hardcore players can only leave. Anyway thank you for your videos.. They really helped me to get into game. I can even say they sold me the game. See you on your next journey.

  • @webfabio6259
    @webfabio6259 Рік тому +1

    This game is stupid, it forces you to create several Alts characters and repeat the same content several times to not fall behind other players. It stops being fun and feels like work.
    I stopped at 1375 when the mechanics in the raid were making it impossible to complete.
    Im only back if have freshstart server and over that fu#$@ ALTS !

  • @kyle784
    @kyle784 Рік тому +1

    I nearly got caught in the trap of dailies until I realized nothing besides 2 CD/week is actually required for progress. Everything else is just gold and you can do any activity you want for gold. So I saved up a few months and have a nest egg of over a million raw gold and now I no longer worry about keeping up since I know I have the gold to do anything that matters. I could come back in a year and be fine with a bit of learning. I can't understand the morons that do max dailies and weeklies by choice and then try to say the game forces them to do them and they feel burnt out. Play the game doing what's fun for you.

  • @mic01851165
    @mic01851165 Рік тому +1

    6 main /9 main is the worst thing about Lost Ark
    If the whole game is center around 1 char and the growth of 1 char, this game would have been fun.
    But if you have to do contents/ chores / raid 6+ times per week , it lost its charm very quickly and ppl become super toxic.

  • @psy4durezo
    @psy4durezo Рік тому +1

    It's actually funny, everyone thinks that same of Lost Ark, the difference is just our own tolerance, how much we can take before saying "Fuck this shit, I'm out". Good for you my friend, enjoy your next what ever, have fun everyone, that's the most important thing

  • @Dot_Skeith
    @Dot_Skeith Рік тому +1

    I quit as well, the toxicity was insane and the amount of stuff needing to do daily made me quit as well. Unless I spammed PVP daily for 10 hours. I couldnt even keep up with all the stuff being added and done. I will still sub to you here Sywo. Look forward to seeing you in a future game. Unfortunately the meta and optimization has ruined all new multiplayer games.

  • @DavidSchleigh
    @DavidSchleigh Рік тому +1

    hell clowns kinda revitalized lost ark for me. i feel like if anything. i would just create characters to thebare minimum of whatever is needed for hell mode. beat it and quit and take a break

  • @MrOrzeker
    @MrOrzeker Рік тому +1

    Well lost ark is just a boring grindy mobile game, at some point every single person patience reaches it's limit and there's nothing that can save it then.
    They'd need to do a complete overall of the game to keep people playing, even korean player think it's to much grind, you know there's something wrong if koreans say that.
    And it's a shame because behind all those stupid mechanics and grind, the gameplay is actually top notch.

  • @SirChocula
    @SirChocula Рік тому +1

    The game did not respect my time. I was in such a more happier and healthier mental state of mind each day after I quit. I literally had 6-8 hours to do w.e tf I wanted and enjoy my own life rather than being on LA. I waited like 5 years for the game to come out ever since I saw it in KR, only to be so disappointed after 2k hours.

  • @inferius3389
    @inferius3389 Рік тому +1

    Understandable. I don't see myself point to play mmorpg if you can't make money of it. Playing mmorpg is like having 2nd job that doesn't pay off.
    I have spent 500 hours in lost ark, by never had fun in it.

  • @Dingelnator
    @Dingelnator Рік тому +1

    I feel you but at the same time I call bs. I get it that lost ark is full of unfun content, you just do for the reward and not for fun.
    Honing wall too high is just bs. Even with full rested there is no problem to be on required ilvl. No need to pay for anything.
    Can't get gate kept if you make your own lobby.

  • @Jhackus
    @Jhackus Рік тому +1

    Thx for alllllllll the fun LA content Mr Goosebumps (on NA/EU release) guy. I hope we could have a final FAKE NEWS from your side :D. Enjoy Life!!!

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmmmm
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmmmm 5 місяців тому +1

    I racked up 4500 hours in Lost Ark and quit too. But I quit because of the toxic community. Maybe when solo mode comes to NA, it'll be worth it.

  • @shoryu2
    @shoryu2 Рік тому +1

    the answer is already in the title, you can't play a Korean game like Europeans, take it easy, don't do 1000 alts. enjoy the new content and play other games too.
    Diablo is boring.

  • @ForgottenShinobi11
    @ForgottenShinobi11 Рік тому +1

    Im nearing 4900h played but in the last 2 months i think i played less than 10h xD deleted all my alts and whit my main im doing only Kayangel and some horizontal like the new music box thingy xD

  • @rozzujr7282
    @rozzujr7282 Рік тому +1

    Bro i play lost ark after watching your video, but well i quit sooner than i expected 😅, thank you for your content and keep doing more content on other game, maybe later you will return and playing lost ark again 😁

  • @poxzerhighl1ght434
    @poxzerhighl1ght434 4 місяці тому +1

    i watched form Asmongold video ,so i just watched video and finished it next move is uninstall the game!! and uninstall it after 160 hours!

  • @___IG
    @___IG Рік тому +5

    Finally, an MMO that values your time

    • @Lain2-c
      @Lain2-c Рік тому

      An mmo we all have been waiting for !
      Respecting my precious time

  • @aquacomplex513
    @aquacomplex513 Рік тому +1

    I stopped at 600 hours because I knew where the game was heading.

  • @bfrfoxtrot
    @bfrfoxtrot Рік тому +1

    I put in near 4k hours myself. Now i just play about 2 hours a week on my main. No reason for me to quit, it's very easy to maintain one character especially with so many hours backlogged.

  • @willn8664
    @willn8664 Рік тому +1

    I've actually also quit. Moved on to Diablo 4. No gatekeeping in that whatsoever. Congrats in advance on the 3rd child.

  • @trancer03
    @trancer03 Рік тому +1

    Thousands of us said that this game is too pay to win. That you can't make it with just playing a lot. Guess we were right all along.

  • @kiiddeus5823
    @kiiddeus5823 Рік тому +8

    Yea honestly, the gatekeeping is one of the biggest problems with this game… and I can’t even blame the players, as you said, cuz I would gatekeep too. The raid wipe mechs are just sooo bad

    • @chriso6042
      @chriso6042 Рік тому +1

      It's not so bad for endgame most recent raid.. but homework should include new players like ffxiv does.

    • @ng4318
      @ng4318 Рік тому +1

      @@chriso6042 endgame raids feel shit in lost ark and everyone gate keeps cuz if one person messes up its a wipe and you have to run it multiple times a week on different characters if you want to stay relevant. It is extremely shitty end game in lost ark, cuz if everyone wipes, you dont get any of your items you wasted, none of your elixers or pots, all your gold is down the drain. It sucks because the bosses and content ARE fun, theyre just too punishing for simple mistakes, the mechanics in ff14 end game (savage content) will wipe, but it doesnt feel so bad because you dont have to do it 18 times a week unlike lost ark, you have to gate keep cuz you arent trying to waste time since you have to do the same fight many more times over.

    • @Despond
      @Despond Рік тому +1

      @@ng4318 I have over 1000 chests of consumable battle items, never paid a cent. Who cares? If you play battle items are a non-issue. Akkan is easier than Brel with less 1-shot. What you want is FF14 easy raids then go play that? Some people love how unforgiving LA raids are. It's not meant to be a casual experience.

    • @zabban
      @zabban Рік тому

      ​@@Despondi agarre, problema is u have to donthe same 6 times a week thats where ppl get toxic about it.

  • @dice3000
    @dice3000 Рік тому +1

    I am really sad Sywo... Hopefully one day we ill meet again... In Riot MMO or something COPIUM. Or when LA is reworked completely

  • @DARKCOP2011
    @DARKCOP2011 Рік тому +1

    OMG I never thought I see the day. I quit Lost Ark almost for the same reasons and still hurts a lot. The nostalgia this game gives me when I see its incredible because the game itself without monetization systems its RLY good, the core problem in my humble opinion are 3 things , first its money, money and money, game just HUNT you it drives you to invest every month but for some its just not possible, second its time, it requires A LOT of time which its also money in real life, you endup investing too much on a game and thats not how a game should work i think and lastly and the most usual in modern games.... PEOPLE, aka community and the fking toxicity and arrogance that is inherit to us human beings. It's a shame Lost Ark its something that could be, but I know at the end of the day its something that will never be. Anyway it hurts now even more seeing Sywo going out after i saw all his love and dedication to Lost Ark.

  • @AlanSmith88888
    @AlanSmith88888 Рік тому +1

    most people have quit way before you
    its just not fun having to waste time and what not waiting in group lobbys and wiping in raids.

  • @laskyb4275
    @laskyb4275 Рік тому +1

    if Sywo quit there's no hope guys.. i would've expected Thirain to quit before him.. tbh 🤣

  • @evil.valentine
    @evil.valentine Рік тому +1

    I got into Lost Ark and it was the PvP that kept me playing as a free to player. Unfortunately it was balanced like absolute dogshit and after two months and a forum full of people giving specific feedback, all with very common consensus complaints that went ignored, I moved away. The PvE just wasn't fun, it only existed to bring in money in my eyes.

  • @raph30bawe
    @raph30bawe Рік тому +1

    Best Lost Ark memories was before release when i was not playing the game but was excited to playing it

  • @ichangeframes8261
    @ichangeframes8261 Рік тому +1

    Glad you get out of this game Sywo, try finding a game that respect your time :)

  • @KG-mv5uo
    @KG-mv5uo Рік тому +1

    How are smilegate this stupid, just put wipe mechs in training, problem solved...

  • @LordDemonos
    @LordDemonos Рік тому +3

    Sending all my love and support for the guy who really got me into Lost Ark. Thank you Sywo, I have no regrets and enjoyed the journey with you.

  • @billdylan1600
    @billdylan1600 Рік тому +1

    Its still in the belly, all ok. Made me laugh hard. Have fun, thats what gaming is about.

  • @TyLeeEnjoyer
    @TyLeeEnjoyer Рік тому +1

    As a support main, I quit in January when they announced that Artist was still like 4 months away. Haven't come back since; the game needs many improvements in its core systems of dailies, raids and general progression. Its not tempting to return either because it seems that the longer you wait to jump in, the more daunting the catch-up becomes especially in light of how toxic the community is. I even couldn't get friends to jump back in with the fast passes, because I essentially had to teach them hours of raids or forsake them to scarce learning groups.
    If they reduce the daily grind, and make some practice-modes for raids that beginners/returning players can use, I might consider coming back. But it doesn't feel like SMG and AGS are competent (or willing) enough to really address these issues in time for me to care anymore.

  • @Boomenrang
    @Boomenrang 3 місяці тому +1

    You probably won’t see this, but I recently started playing Lost Ark and a lot of your videos have been super useful for me. Some are a little bit outdated but still generally useful. Thanks from the past where you made all of these videos! I hope whatever you are doing now is still making u happy.

    • @suruocean1657
      @suruocean1657 Місяць тому

      irmão eu senti isso, from brazil.

  • @bzzztbzzzt2191
    @bzzztbzzzt2191 Рік тому +3

    Playing with you regularly (and the squad!) was the only reason I managed to stay playing for 4 months more before I had to drop it. It's not hard to walk away from a game as much as it is the people you get to play with. The fact that I fell so far behind after 1 month off that I couldn't do the new raid with you all, and after 1 month of semi-no-lifing I was still far behind... broke my desire to continue with the game considering everything else. I get it. Most importantly: Congratulations on the new family member!

  • @ragnorak5095
    @ragnorak5095 Рік тому +1

    I stop playing st 4500 hours, came back after many month of breaks when AGS announced gear honing changes etc...login....saw the list of unas I had to do on 4 characters, did 1 chaos...and all rested I needed to do BEFORE touching raids...my gear was probably way outdated for PF....I immediately ALTF4.
    I just can't play it again unless the daily requirements are completely revamped.

  • @kumaSOevl
    @kumaSOevl Рік тому +2

    Best thing that I got out of lost ark was this channel. See you in future games sywo Ty for all

  • @alexisf7720
    @alexisf7720 Рік тому +2

    What made me quit was basically the same thing. I don't mind the difficulty of Inferno/Hell Mode, I just dont really feel like wasting hours of my life to make gold for consumables for it. Hard pass lol.

  • @arkanaloth2617
    @arkanaloth2617 Рік тому +1

    honestly.. I stopped playing lost Ark for similar reasons *but* I went into it very casually knowing that I would hit the end-game "wall" of gaining item level and that would be the end of it.. I enjoyed the PVE a bit, the story is ok (it's no FF14 or Guildwars2 but it's ok) got a few skins and... now I'm done.
    Guildwars2 is my main game but I played the hell out of FF14 until my friend group kinda dissolved cause life happens you kno. I have a small but relatively steady group of friends in GW2 and I have very few limits on what I can do even if they're not on, it fits "around" my life, instead of having to fit my life around my game.
    anywho, enjoy FF14 cause the content is just outstanding and I dunno.. post some FF14 stuff, it's always fun to watch.

  • @wayoftherose
    @wayoftherose Рік тому +1

    I just came from Asmongold and his reaction... My brother in Christ... 4500 hours of grinding, losing hair, and suffering. It's fine to quit. If they can't make the game better, Smilegate doesn't deserve a fan base and content creators to support them. 💯

  • @VerdictLovesYou
    @VerdictLovesYou Рік тому +1

    Welcome to Black Desert Online then, Sywo! 😁

  • @nikolygtx8848
    @nikolygtx8848 Рік тому +1

    After 4500 hours there its not really reason to play game anymore lol

  • @phanurujthipboonta756
    @phanurujthipboonta756 Рік тому +1

    This is just sad man
    I remember back in the year when I Found your channel and follow you even since.
    BTW happy for you brother!

  • @Paolini_18
    @Paolini_18 Рік тому +1

    I started watching ur Lost Ark videos the moment the game got announced for global and learned alot. Even tho i quit the game a few months ago i had alot of fun during those 2,631 hours. As someone who doesn't has any online friends i did my first raid with other people on voc (Argos) and it was amazing i'll never forget those memories. Lost Ark is a great game but the few problems are enough to push people away after 2-4k hours.

  • @thunder2753
    @thunder2753 Рік тому +1

    I also did start realizing that paying for power in Lost Ark makes the game less fun and it makes me not wanna play it. I also know that you're not required to pay in order to progress but I feel like you're required much more to do so if u wanna be caught up with the current content compared to other games but I did have a fun time playing it. Also, if you wanna try a good MMORPG that has good PVE and PVP I would recommend Old School Runescape.

  • @bocheduszko
    @bocheduszko Рік тому +8

    I met Sywo when waiting for the western relese of lost ark, and from the very first time iiked him for his positivity, enthusiasm and honesty.
    Now when lost ark is dead to me for a longer time now, im still here watching. High five mate, all the best for ypu.

  • @makangeleezy
    @makangeleezy Рік тому +1

    Its okay to quit! Now you get to Enjoy other games

  • @jamesray741
    @jamesray741 Рік тому +1

    i just posted a video titled. "How I don't care".

  • @Cauttyh
    @Cauttyh Рік тому +1

    this video really resonated with me, amazing video homie

    • @SywoSan
      @SywoSan  Рік тому

      Hey nice to see you dude

  • @XENON3120
    @XENON3120 Рік тому

    game came out in 2019 and you have 4500 hours already, damn man that's a lot but its good you went away from it, if you want something nostalgic play Divine Divinity the original one

  • @heroblake6572
    @heroblake6572 Рік тому +1

    Any day SYWO rants is a great day. Gonna miss you man. Come back once Gold River implements some changes.

  • @BuffPomsky
    @BuffPomsky Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this vid Sywo. You were definitely the main youtuber I watched for Lost Ark content. I remember excitedly watching every vid waiting for the 3-day early release (bought founder's pack, watched bunch of guides, etc).
    Those first couple of weeks when Lost Ark released were some of the best gaming memories I have. I loved seeing people in the towns, everyone sailing around, people gathering for field bosses and helping cut down trees. Retaking Luterra, Feiton, arthetine dungeons, they were all so mind-blowing. I remember in Anikka I first found Chuo Chuo without knowing what it was and got destroyed since I was underleveled.
    Sadly, now it's just gatekeeping and swiping/no-lifeing. I still love the combat, raids, visual, and story, but it just takes too much time to try the new content. Quit when zelda came out and never going back :)

  • @jarrellblue
    @jarrellblue Рік тому +1

    Enjoyment is per person i watch ur content admittedly for the fun accent and the grounded with a hint of smile and humor commentary, keep up the videos people who like u and ur videos itself will watch regardless! Gl on the child and life

  • @Romaviza
    @Romaviza Рік тому +1

    Yeah one of my first lost ark videos I watched before the release in the west was from your channel. Good luck on the next step of the journey

  • @KkommA88
    @KkommA88 Рік тому +1

    Great game if you have no ambition and can ignore every "i wanna reach that goal" the game presents you. If not, it's chores all over the place, which is sad because the basic game is really nice.
    Anyway, thanks for your time and videos about LA and congrats on the child!

    • @54321eclipse12345
      @54321eclipse12345 Рік тому

      The issue is too many people do exactly that. They overwork or overspend to reach play on release on up to 6 characters. The issue for the person playing a reasonable amount then becomes the gatekeeping they face by the community. What everyone in the community should do is play however much they enjoy and let shit hit the fan where they release new content for only the peak of p2w players like they did in Argos. Only then they will adapt the game to fit your playstyle. If you keep pandering to make their arbitrary content release goals, with arbitrary low set amount of mats you get for the odds on upgrading or you pay to get there, then they see player progression as working fine in their data and they won't change a thing.

    • @stra2g
      @stra2g Рік тому

      ​@54321eclipse12345 the issue is very obviously not the players and instead is the fundamental design of the game.
      If gatekeeping is rampant and playing the game is seen as a chore by most players, it's definitely not a player issue and is just straight up bad design

    • @54321eclipse12345
      @54321eclipse12345 Рік тому

      @@stra2g They psychologically force players into a certain behavior by creating these arbitrary fomo goals and designing the way to achive the goals based on simulations created from the data set of their current players. I'm not claiming that the player is at fault for how much their phsychologial buisness model tells them to ask of their player. I am merely explaining to you where the only point of influence on this system as a player lies.
      It should be obvious that the devs/management is able to alter the model as they did in the past with argos or the golden frog. But they dont care about you crying about it, when their data set still tells them that 90% of players achived play on release.

  • @GabriezSantos
    @GabriezSantos Рік тому +6

    Cool review Sywo, life as Gravity Training must have been tough xD I have some guildmates who play different classes that I helped them get clears for horns and etc at the start of contents because it was hard to join even prog groups with some classes that are badly viewed (pistoler, reaper, etc). As I keep progressing in the game I'm noticing that the game can be more chill than I used to think... For some months now I've been doing everything with rested and taking slots with my characters to decides who does raids each week, and I could keep up with the pace of patches despite that... It's harsh that you wouldn't keep up if you take any breaks from the game at the current pace, but I don't feel as pressured or burned out anymore o/ Game is being even more fun since I reduced the contents I do =)

    • @joeb734
      @joeb734 Рік тому +1

      If only I could upvote this...I too started only doing dailies that are double rested and it really helped manage my burnout. Just taking it a little slower, my main is still Akkan ready after being "behind" when Brel dropped, now I'm just slowly bringing up my alts to 1540 while I collect gold

  • @Grizzlybooey
    @Grizzlybooey Рік тому +2

    Congrats on the New Baby Mr Sywo
    Cheers my freind

  • @zackd2852
    @zackd2852 Рік тому +2

    Sywo, I just want to say that you were THE first person I watched and supported during my Lost Ark phase. I also witnessed you at having only a few subscribers and remembered the day you hit 100K subscribers. It was very memorable and MUCH DESERVED. Thank you for making wonderful contents. I remember waking up early to watch your live streams. I will always be your subscriber. Best wishes to your future contents!

  • @PaulOJazzMusic
    @PaulOJazzMusic Рік тому

    "To much time doing chores" - this is the reason why after greatly enjoying the game I quickly had to give it up. Friends of mine who worked from home and could play for more hours then me completely blew my gear score away within the first few days. The fact that you needed to do the same activities on multiple characters just to make sure one character had decent gear, this all felt too much like a chore (for me.)
    I genuinely enjoyed the 3v3 equalized gear pvp system. If I return to the game, chances are this would be the only content I would partake in, just because there's no way I would be able to hang with 90% of the player base & their gear requirements for content.
    You were one of the reasons I got into lost ark to begin with. I've watched the bulk of your content when it comes to tutorials and guides before I delved into the game. I do find it interesting that the non-personal/game related reasoning provided for leaving the game appear to be resonating with others (myself included.)
    Congrats on the 3rd child, and best of luck on your future endeavors! Thanks for sharing this video with the community.

  • @yamichan8796
    @yamichan8796 Рік тому +1

    This game has alot of potential and i hope it gets better, but like some people said, maybe it's too late already? I also had some problems with the game's systems and community. I was having fun with my Destroyer until they announced Kuku raid, tried to hone my weapon to +20 and it kept failing for over 3 weeks of farming mats and trying, then i decided to take a break and wait for Artist which was my goal from the beginning. Took a long time for them to release that class and until this day i can't understand why since now people are already getting Aeromancer next month. Then i made my Artist with the help of the hyper express and the first week was ok, got her to 1460 and there i had the community toxicity gatekeeping problem, yeah guys, people were gatekeeping a support class believe it or not, i had the 4x3 that the express gives you, i had lvl 6 gems that i grabbed from my berserker that i deleted to make my Artist and i couldn't find Vykas groups, this was the end of the line for me.
    I'm glad to see that you are having fun with other games, i also advise people that if you're not having fun with LOA try something else, my friend asked me to play Battlebit with them, even though i'm terrible with fps games i'm having alot of fun, games are supposed to be fun, not give you anxiety if you f up a mechanic because the community will bombard you when you do. All the best for you Sywo and ty for all the content.

    • @LylyNynx
      @LylyNynx Рік тому +1

      yeah tbh with artist release i wouldn't say it was gatekeeping. I'd say it's the fact many parties already had 2 sups. Sups in general went through a shitty experience then.

    • @supaaznjigga
      @supaaznjigga Рік тому

      It is finally back to the normal support shortage in general vs. during artist release and for the entire 3 months of the pass or whatever's length, supports were gatekept somewhat. Yes, it was more based on first come, first serve basis, but there was definitely denies to supports that didn't have 5x3 and VP for raids like brel. It was so weird having to experience that and also getting your support's homework done. Now, at least, it feels like we have a better amount of support alts left over at the end of the day, but the shortage is real for the hardmode newer raids.. It is as always predicted.. People main a dps first, hone all in on that and then supports get leftover hones, so there isn't many to do the latest content with.. But yeah, all 6's and 4x3 is basically all support needs.

    • @kyle784
      @kyle784 Рік тому

      A lot of "4x3s" are actually 3x3's+ Heavy Armor so it makes sense if this was your case and you got gatekept. I personally didn't see much gatekeeping on artist release and it was mostly a fill issue where they wouldn't take extra supps over 2.

  • @chrisjo9840
    @chrisjo9840 Рік тому +1

    sad to see you go man, i got into lost ark around christmas 2022 and i watched all of your newbie friendly videos. you were like my bible :( best of luck to you, hope you find enjoyment in whatever games you play next!

  • @Tbonesteakayaya
    @Tbonesteakayaya Рік тому +1

    If Sywo quits then you know it’s bad

  • @TheDimsh
    @TheDimsh Рік тому

    oh my god I cant imagine the shock jumping from lost ark to FFXIV , that game does not require you to do literally anything, you can just log on and talk to people if you wanted to and you would never feel like you're left behind. I have over 8000 hours in FFXIV and like 1000 in lost ark and yeah, lost ark is a fucking mess. I got to 1520 last wednesday and today (like almost a week later) I finally found a party to play/learn brelshaza with. We did 4 pulls and people quit almost immediately. It's an absolute pathetic joke and you will almost never experience that in FFXIV, unless it's weekly reclears.