Honestly your long form content is healing my fried dopamine receptors.❤️ im actually paying attention to sth without mindlessly scrolling through tiktok
2:04:48 - If you'd like to possibly read too much into it, Quaithe's name sounds somewhat similar to "quoth", a word repeated many times in The Raven by Poe: "Quoth the Raven" as the Raven keeps repeating that one word to every question. The choice of this strange name could be alluding to Quaithe's connection to Bloodraven. A reminder that the bird itself is at some point addressed as a "Prophet" by the main character, and said to have flown in from a "nightly shore" and "night's Plutonian shore", which is a reference to the Roman god of the underworld. And when the character opens a door to it there's "darkness there and nothing more". The Raven is also described as "grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, and ominous" and "his eyes have all the seeming of a demon that is dreaming".
that's good. Martin references that line in the poem when he says that the Crone of the Faith of the 7 "opened the door of death and let the first raven into the world"
Re-listening to last night's stream I think Lightbringer nails it in this statement: "It's a really cool made-up name; it doesn't mean anything" .. I love all the theories from everyone.. I'm going w Quaith is just Quaith .. Love you guys 👏🏼❤️🔥😘
I kinda hope Quaithe is a character from Essos with some secrets of her own. Because I like the idea of agency concerning Westeros coming from there as well. But the Elissa theory is the most sound to me.
Early in the day and week...the news full of bad things, like always. Then you two gentlemen pop up in my recommendations, a doorway for some good old escapism. Thanks for your contribution to a better day :D
Quaithe = The Quai, makes sense to me. If you pronounce it like a German you'd get a word very similar to that for Wharf (Kai). From Wikipedia: "A wharf (pl. wharves or wharfs), quay (/kiː/ kee, also /keɪ, kweɪ/ k(w)ay[2]), staith, or staithe is a structure on the shore of a harbour or on the bank of a river or canal where ships may dock to load and unload cargo or passengers." The English pronunciation also seems to be the same as "Key".
Sir Pterry Pratchett also had Death attend a Fancy Dress Ball (he likes the little sausages they serve). He outright says “I EXPECT THEY WILL BE VERY SURPRISED WHEN IT IS TIME TO REMOVE OUR MASKS”
Thank goodness for you two. Lol I just got left by my spouse and ran away to Vegas like an adult. 😂😂 You two are keeping me company as I wander the strip wondering where I went wrong. ♡♡♡
A magical stream, perfect for spooky season! Yo’, if Asshai has a library, 1) it’s gotta be haunted af 2) might be worth a lil’ radioactivity in your pumpkin spice latte to check out a few books, even if they don’t make you smile
I liked this one, im glad i tuned in. And now i have to the tangent straight up off topic thing. So, i keep waiting for the Tywin video and I've noticed something. But I'm also looking forward to the possible Roose video you alluded to in your last Arya chapter reread. Roose has to be more than any ordinary man. Everyone seems to fear him. In the scene where takes Jamie from The Brave Companiond and they go quiet at the sound of his soft voice and do as their told. These men are monsters in man skins as much anyone in the story and battle hardened mercenaries. But they fear Roose Bolton on sight and sound! That's not normal. Also the magically blighted, haunted ruined, evil castle that is Harrenhal follows suit in this regard. "On your knees for the Lord of The Dreadfort. And Harrenhal knelt." Theres something up with him.
@DavidLightbringer I saw the Lannister family video. I just assumed Tywin was still bound for his own solo video like Ned. I saw the Roose video as well but you seem to be of the opinion that Roose isn't magical in some regard. I feel like he has to be other than fully human because of this fear he commands from people like the Bloody Mummers. Roose isn't personally well known for cruelty like they are because "a quiet land, a quiet people". But they're scared of him. A garden variety psycho couldn't manage that. Thanks for the response.
18:45 just a heads-up for Tim, Dany's Silver is actually alive all the way through ADWD, and into the Barristan chapter in TWOW. But I wouldn't be surprised if she dies in the Battle for Meereen, unfortunately.
I believe its Shiera, but Elisa is a very solid option too, because even if she is not, she is still very relevant to Quaithe/Dany. Sad that we won't know until TWoW or F&B2 😿
Most excellent stream! I loved the interesting fonts and colors on the outline, the wardrobe choices of these two brilliant men, and of course the fantastic content! Always a pleasure, always entertaining. ❤
Regering Ellyssa Farman as hypothesis of being Quaithe… Storywise that seems to become identical to the hypothesis that Quaithe is Quaithe. There isn’t any obvious different type of story between theese two hypotheses. Having Sheara becoming Quaithe creates a potential very interesting story with connections to other characters. Solid and already existing connections. Also with the potential of the three parallel ongoing supports towards Jon, Bran and Danaerys (with all its different versions concerning how consciouss and in active cooperation they are with or not with each other.) Ashara as Quaithe also builds up a unique story for that character and maybe connections to what Lyanna knew. I prefer Ashare being with Howland. That’s an enough compelling story in itself. My point at this stage is that if it isn’t Sheara than it is mostly/only a version of “Quaithe being Quaithe”. Adding Alyssa into they doesn’t really change any fundamentals of what we know.
Just started watching! Missed the stream cos i got called into work on my usual LML stream day! Also new place looks cool David! Hope your happy there! 😊😊😊😊
Been following you since you and Quinn did your Ides Of March T.W.O.W series! You and Tim should record audiobooks for The entire ASOIAF Universe doing different characters and voices. Just sayin 💯
Could Meera be the heir simply because they are taking seriously Jojen's green dreams (which are allegedly never wrong) and that he knows when he will die (presumably he knows it is before Meera)?
Quaithe makes me think of the death tarot card. The card didn't represent actual death, but leaving things that no longer serve us and transformation. She started communicating with Dany at a time where both of those things were present in her journey
@19:00 Just a minor correction but I believe Silver only dies in the Red Waste on the show. Barriston rides her to battle in one of the WoW Mereen chapters.
Broken thunderbolts are a meteor reference. This is spelled out in The King of Elfland’s Daughter with the witch who uses a “thunderbolt,” metal from a meteorite, to make the hero’s magic sword.
At @1:10:30, to note, Diana/Jyana and Howl’s Moving Castle: The author of the book is Diana Wynne Jones 😉 so there’s another Diana reference and again I am blown away by the world building and cross referencing.
Hmmm didn’t notice until watching this, but Quaithe is the only one to tell her the truth when the three Qartheen representatives come to her in Vaes Tolorro. The others try to flatter Dany and use different languages, but Quaithe tells her plainly in the Common Tongue that they come seeking dragons. Might be a good sign going forward that Quaithe is telling Dany the truth and has her (or the world’s) best interests at heart.
Couple of thoughts on Elissa Farman's voyage West: 1. We only have the word of the sailors who turned back as to what happened. It's possible that their tales of terrifying storms and red skies are lies, pre-arranged with Elissa. May be they wanted to go back and she allowed them, but made a deal whereby they spread these tales to either a) stop people following her, and/or b) cover up what they _really_ found. That opens up the possibility of more information coming out, because it's unlikely that every sailor on the ships that returned would keep their silence forever. It may be that there's a dusty old scroll of some old salt's deathbed confession lying around waiting tobe discovered somewhere. 2. How did Corliss Velaryon know what Sunchaser looked like? Paintings are rare, expensive and time-consuming in Westeros, so it seems unlikely that somebody on the run, building ships to a time crunch, would have any incentive to commission one. That just leaves written accounts, but unless Sunchaser was VERY distinctive in some way, it's had to imagine a 200+ year old ship that's been damaged and repaired countless times being that easy to ID any more.
The phrase "There are no children in Asshai" could mean "There are no Innocences in Asshai" meaning even the children that live there are currupted by evil or do evil things. I believe it is an old fantasy troop or a reference to something that I can't remember. Only an old movie pops up when I search. I don't think is the reference.
Great stream, but I am kinda confused where you got those Japanese meanings from. As far as I know, none of these words sound anything like Shiera, maybe with the exception of "poetry" （詩）, which is pronounced "shi". Still "shi" could also be the number four （四）, death（死）or many other things depending on how it is written.
Hi, Mr Waste : ) Stupid round planet making it so I'm not awake when Dave's vids come out Someone should take a big hammer to our world and make it so time would be as it is for a a tree: optional Anyway, keep up the good hammering, and cheers(skål) 🎭🐺🐉🎭
Do you think GRRM is using Quetzalcoatl, but with a female name spin, to remind him of who Quaithe is (Quetzalcoatl was the 'god of the morning star')?
So for Elden Ring, look at Ranni compared to Dany. Shes a moon queen who wishes the break the wheel of religious slavery. She has a dragon. Dies but is brought back to life. The player who marries her becomes her consort which is what I think Jon will become. This protagonist also is someone who dies and comes back to life. Ranni wants to restore death to her land, which Dany has to do too
Has anyone heard the theory that Ashara Dayne's parents are Rhaella Targaryen and Steffon Baratheon? Septa Shaena's Secrets has a video on it. Some fascinating theories worth checking out...
Why did GRRM just drop Elissa's ship in Asshai? Because it shows that Westeros can be invaded from the West & it's a reference to Magellan perishing during his circumnavigation.
I love Shiera so I would like her to be Quaithe but honestly what Bloodraven says kinda implies she is dead. He says: "I have my own ghosts, Bran. A brother that I loved, a brother that I hated, a woman I desired. Through the trees, I see them still, but no word of mine has ever reached them. The past remains the past. We can learn from it, but we cannot change it." So at the very least he thinks that she is dead which is also possible but it would mean that they dont work together.
1:33:31 @DavidLightbringer So I am listening to this late. I notice you guys don't point out the Authrian references much. Blood Raven is also a direct reference to Merlin, a Wizard who is trapped in a cave by his, depending on the telling unrequited, love. Niume, entraps and entombs her unresisting mentor within a tree, in a hole underneath a large stone, or inside a cave. Merlin also in more recent legends uses his entombment as an opportunity to time travel, and learn about things in the future, making his tomb a place outside time. Merlin takes Arthur on these trips teaching him about the world, magic, and what it means to be a good king to prepare him to rule England. Pretty much a direct beat for beat rip
@@DavidLightbringer I've watched hundreds of hours of your content just never comment or make it to live streams, So many missed Memory Sorrow and Thorn references too. I usually have your stuff on in the background so I'll try to comment more when I see it. Quaithe is also a reference to Utuk'ku, Lady Silver Mask, from MST the Terrible Queen of the Norns and Great Grandmother of Ineluki. I have a very strong suspicion Quaithe is going to end up being Shiera Seastar based on everything GRRM is drawing from and is somewhat opposed to Bloodraven either directly or is just betting on a different horse, Danny.
Interesting, but I don't buy any of these. One thing I do wonder is if Melisandre and Quaithe, both being shadow binders, were trained and sent out to find the promised one by the same person or organization. Fits with your "tutelage triangle".
Honestly I wasn't a fan of Quaithe during my first read of asoiaf. I don't like riddles, they make me feel stupid 😂. But I've been more and more intrigued by her now that I know about theories of her hiding identity. I had a thought : Maybe Dany is not the only one who can see her and that's why she disappears when Missandei appears or anyone else. She could be really here, in the room with Dany, and could even touch her if she liked like the show version of the Night King touching Bran in a vision.
Great stream @David Lightbringer Do you think you'll have Quinn's for a ASoIF/ Dune summit? Also I.have a theory she (Quathe) has used or something like Faceless Man type & can be anyone (instead of no one) under that mask. It would certainly keep her identity well hidden.
The Quaithe is the friends we made along the way.
Honestly your long form content is healing my fried dopamine receptors.❤️ im actually paying attention to sth without mindlessly scrolling through tiktok
success!!
@@DavidLightbringer💪💪💪
low on dopamine here, too! Drugs are more fun if you share them with others :D
Same, these videos have been my new hyperfixation, so it's great there's so many!
@@DavidLightbringeramazing vid as always..but if im not mistaken i though Dany's silver is still alive in the books?
2:04:48 - If you'd like to possibly read too much into it, Quaithe's name sounds somewhat similar to "quoth", a word repeated many times in The Raven by Poe: "Quoth the Raven" as the Raven keeps repeating that one word to every question. The choice of this strange name could be alluding to Quaithe's connection to Bloodraven.
A reminder that the bird itself is at some point addressed as a "Prophet" by the main character, and said to have flown in from a "nightly shore" and "night's Plutonian shore", which is a reference to the Roman god of the underworld. And when the character opens a door to it there's "darkness there and nothing more". The Raven is also described as "grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, and ominous" and "his eyes have all the seeming of a demon that is dreaming".
that's good. Martin references that line in the poem when he says that the Crone of the Faith of the 7 "opened the door of death and let the first raven into the world"
@@DavidLightbringer Oh there you go, I'd forgotten about that. Maybe I didn't read too "too much" into it after all 🤷♀
@@DavidLightbringerI like this theory and also like the idea that a dock is sort of a weir or garth.
Re-listening to last night's stream I think Lightbringer nails it in this statement: "It's a really cool made-up name; it doesn't mean anything" .. I love all the theories from everyone.. I'm going w Quaith is just Quaith .. Love you guys 👏🏼❤️🔥😘
Love the hard work you guys put into the outlines for these streams! All these streams and videos really help further the analysis of the series!
You two are so fun. ♡
Quaithe is one of my fav influences on the story. Ready to see where it leads Dany.
Here's my offering to the algorithm Gods. 🔥❗
I kinda hope Quaithe is a character from Essos with some secrets of her own. Because I like the idea of agency concerning Westeros coming from there as well. But the Elissa theory is the most sound to me.
Early in the day and week...the news full of bad things, like always. Then you two gentlemen pop up in my recommendations, a doorway for some good old escapism. Thanks for your contribution to a better day :D
Quaithe = The Quai, makes sense to me. If you pronounce it like a German you'd get a word very similar to that for Wharf (Kai). From Wikipedia: "A wharf (pl. wharves or wharfs), quay (/kiː/ kee, also /keɪ, kweɪ/ k(w)ay[2]), staith, or staithe is a structure on the shore of a harbour or on the bank of a river or canal where ships may dock to load and unload cargo or passengers." The English pronunciation also seems to be the same as "Key".
My brain: "oh wow Tim got a full sleeve between the last stream and now." 🤦♀️😂😂
Sir Pterry Pratchett also had Death attend a Fancy Dress Ball (he likes the little sausages they serve). He outright says “I EXPECT THEY WILL BE VERY SURPRISED WHEN IT IS TIME TO REMOVE OUR MASKS”
Used a word descrambler and found the word "Quate" which means "tranquility"; but it's also an archaic noun meaning "fortune" or "destiny".
We’re all Quaithe.
Love these videos so much! Keeps the world of Ice and Fire alive!
I opened this stream, and the title healed my soul lol
Thank goodness for you two. Lol
I just got left by my spouse and ran away to Vegas like an adult. 😂😂
You two are keeping me company as I wander the strip wondering where I went wrong. ♡♡♡
Maybe not the most adult approach 😂 but if it works, it works...good luck with love, my friend 💫
“…and to touch fulfillment you must have a wild coke and sex party in Vegas.”
Great stream Dave and Tim! Very excited about world building!
A magical stream, perfect for spooky season!
Yo’, if Asshai has a library, 1) it’s gotta be haunted af 2) might be worth a lil’ radioactivity in your pumpkin spice latte to check out a few books, even if they don’t make you smile
I liked this one, im glad i tuned in. And now i have to the tangent straight up off topic thing. So, i keep waiting for the Tywin video and I've noticed something. But I'm also looking forward to the possible Roose video you alluded to in your last Arya chapter reread.
Roose has to be more than any ordinary man. Everyone seems to fear him. In the scene where takes Jamie from The Brave Companiond and they go quiet at the sound of his soft voice and do as their told. These men are monsters in man skins as much anyone in the story and battle hardened mercenaries. But they fear Roose Bolton on sight and sound! That's not normal. Also the magically blighted, haunted ruined, evil castle that is Harrenhal follows suit in this regard. "On your knees for the Lord of The Dreadfort. And Harrenhal knelt." Theres something up with him.
I did the Tywin video as The Lannister Family: a Psycho Analysis and my Roose theory is called The Bolton Secret
Look up "Bolt-On" theory. Its wild, but eerily plausible. I subscribe to it completely, but I'm a little wacky.
@DavidLightbringer I saw the Lannister family video. I just assumed Tywin was still bound for his own solo video like Ned. I saw the Roose video as well but you seem to be of the opinion that Roose isn't magical in some regard. I feel like he has to be other than fully human because of this fear he commands from people like the Bloody Mummers. Roose isn't personally well known for cruelty like they are because "a quiet land, a quiet people". But they're scared of him. A garden variety psycho couldn't manage that. Thanks for the response.
18:45 just a heads-up for Tim, Dany's Silver is actually alive all the way through ADWD, and into the Barristan chapter in TWOW. But I wouldn't be surprised if she dies in the Battle for Meereen, unfortunately.
Silver only dies in the show though. She is still alive in Mereen
Can't wait for an Elden Ring stream. I've been hooked on the lore for months and would love to hear your takes.
this Sunday homie
Love this stream, It was very great. I always love when tim and David get together their streams are always very entertaining.
appreciate the effort to make the outline look good 👍
nice stream 👌
Silver is still alive if im not mistaken.
Barristan rides her in winds of winter
its fun seeing these two in years old vids and then seeing theyre still keeping it up
I believe its Shiera, but Elisa is a very solid option too, because even if she is not, she is still very relevant to Quaithe/Dany. Sad that we won't know until TWoW or F&B2 😿
Love the stream. Thank you David and Tim, appreciate it.
Dope stream!! Glad to have been here 💚
Listening to you guys talking about Ashai, sounds like you could be describing the heart of winter...
they do seem to be parallel locations
Most excellent stream! I loved the interesting fonts and colors on the outline, the wardrobe choices of these two brilliant men, and of course the fantastic content! Always a pleasure, always entertaining. ❤
loved this episode
Thank you so much for covering this❤
Quaithe is actually Jason Todd after getting resurrected by a Lazarus pit.
Regering Ellyssa Farman as hypothesis of being Quaithe…
Storywise that seems to become identical to the hypothesis that Quaithe is Quaithe. There isn’t any obvious different type of story between theese two hypotheses.
Having Sheara becoming Quaithe creates a potential very interesting story with connections to other characters. Solid and already existing connections. Also with the potential of the three parallel ongoing supports towards Jon, Bran and Danaerys (with all its different versions concerning how consciouss and in active cooperation they are with or not with each other.)
Ashara as Quaithe also builds up a unique story for that character and maybe connections to what Lyanna knew. I prefer Ashare being with Howland. That’s an enough compelling story in itself.
My point at this stage is that if it isn’t Sheara than it is mostly/only a version of “Quaithe being Quaithe”. Adding Alyssa into they doesn’t really change any fundamentals of what we know.
David u look so good brother praise Garth
Thank you guys for an epic theory breakdown. Love Quaithe theory. Shoutout Moira White Mask
Just started watching! Missed the stream cos i got called into work on my usual LML stream day! Also new place looks cool David! Hope your happy there! 😊😊😊😊
Been following you since you and Quinn did your Ides Of March T.W.O.W series!
You and Tim should record audiobooks for The entire ASOIAF Universe doing different characters and voices. Just sayin 💯
49:00 biggest bobblehead of agreement-sleep paralysis Quaithe’d have you insomniac for the rest of for-effin’-ever
Great stream 👍
Excellent stream!
Could Meera be the heir simply because they are taking seriously Jojen's green dreams (which are allegedly never wrong) and that he knows when he will die (presumably he knows it is before Meera)?
Quaithe makes me think of the death tarot card. The card didn't represent actual death, but leaving things that no longer serve us and transformation. She started communicating with Dany at a time where both of those things were present in her journey
Thanks!
thank you!
The way I thought Tim had disappeared for a few weeks and came back with full sleeves. 😭
Thank you for the effort !
And congrats for the new place
Tim has some incredible insight
@19:00 Just a minor correction but I believe Silver only dies in the Red Waste on the show. Barriston rides her to battle in one of the WoW Mereen chapters.
Please... Please.. Please.. Do Dunk and Egg again "just for the story... and the voices".
1:46 super excited for this stream 😁 (plz let it be Shiera hehe 🥰)
What if Quathe is just Quathe, but she’s from the first long night? I doubt it, but it’s a fun little thought.
You think you know someone and all of a sudden this mf Tim in Yellow is fully tatted?
aka "Mr. Timfoil"
Broken thunderbolts are a meteor reference. This is spelled out in The King of Elfland’s Daughter with the witch who uses a “thunderbolt,” metal from a meteorite, to make the hero’s magic sword.
At @1:10:30, to note, Diana/Jyana and Howl’s Moving Castle: The author of the book is Diana Wynne Jones 😉 so there’s another Diana reference and again I am blown away by the world building and cross referencing.
OHHH WOW nice catch!!
Jon + Lyanna = Jyanna... what a good nickname for Ashara to adopt
Praise Garth
🌳🌚🌠🐉
Hmmm didn’t notice until watching this, but Quaithe is the only one to tell her the truth when the three Qartheen representatives come to her in Vaes Tolorro. The others try to flatter Dany and use different languages, but Quaithe tells her plainly in the Common Tongue that they come seeking dragons. Might be a good sign going forward that Quaithe is telling Dany the truth and has her (or the world’s) best interests at heart.
Couple of thoughts on Elissa Farman's voyage West:
1. We only have the word of the sailors who turned back as to what happened. It's possible that their tales of terrifying storms and red skies are lies, pre-arranged with Elissa. May be they wanted to go back and she allowed them, but made a deal whereby they spread these tales to either a) stop people following her, and/or b) cover up what they _really_ found. That opens up the possibility of more information coming out, because it's unlikely that every sailor on the ships that returned would keep their silence forever. It may be that there's a dusty old scroll of some old salt's deathbed confession lying around waiting tobe discovered somewhere.
2. How did Corliss Velaryon know what Sunchaser looked like? Paintings are rare, expensive and time-consuming in Westeros, so it seems unlikely that somebody on the run, building ships to a time crunch, would have any incentive to commission one. That just leaves written accounts, but unless Sunchaser was VERY distinctive in some way, it's had to imagine a 200+ year old ship that's been damaged and repaired countless times being that easy to ID any more.
Imagine having a shoggoth garden gnome.
So good 🎉
tim is tapped in with the hat man🫡
The phrase "There are no children in Asshai" could mean "There are no Innocences in Asshai" meaning even the children that live there are currupted by evil or do evil things. I believe it is an old fantasy troop or a reference to something that I can't remember. Only an old movie pops up when I search. I don't think is the reference.
Middle guy !! Hell yea
honestly, the only fans would hit
Great as!🎉🎉
The Benadryl Hat Man is the homie
Great stream, but I am kinda confused where you got those Japanese meanings from. As far as I know, none of these words sound anything like Shiera, maybe with the exception of "poetry" （詩）, which is pronounced "shi". Still "shi" could also be the number four （四）, death（死）or many other things depending on how it is written.
Just a thought/suggestion, the Tim Squisher emoji () still needs a white outline. ❤
Hi, Mr Waste : )
Stupid round planet making it so I'm not awake when Dave's vids come out
Someone should take a big hammer to our world and make it so time would be as it is for a a tree: optional
Anyway, keep up the good hammering, and cheers(skål)
🎭🐺🐉🎭
I think I'm going to move the start time ahead 3 hours very soon
Yeah I always feel like the late Lord Krog
It's all good though- as long as the streams keeps flowing I'm happy as a Hodor
: )
It sounds a bit like "quaich" which is a traditional Scottish two-handled drinking cup. That's all I got.
Do you think GRRM is using Quetzalcoatl, but with a female name spin, to remind him of who Quaithe is (Quetzalcoatl was the 'god of the morning star')?
I think Mallora Hightower is the most likely candidate to be Quaithe
So for Elden Ring, look at Ranni compared to Dany. Shes a moon queen who wishes the break the wheel of religious slavery. She has a dragon. Dies but is brought back to life. The player who marries her becomes her consort which is what I think Jon will become. This protagonist also is someone who dies and comes back to life. Ranni wants to restore death to her land, which Dany has to do too
25:05 one more example of a "stone man" being "no one"!
Has anyone heard the theory that Ashara Dayne's parents are Rhaella Targaryen and Steffon Baratheon? Septa Shaena's Secrets has a video on it. Some fascinating theories worth checking out...
Dope
Drat! I tried to be first but yall just too fast 😂 thanks though fr😊
Why did GRRM just drop Elissa's ship in Asshai? Because it shows that Westeros can be invaded from the West & it's a reference to Magellan perishing during his circumnavigation.
the comparison of asshai to 4chan is hilarious 😂
Is Quaithe mask made of weirwood? Effectively skinchanging a tree face
I love Shiera so I would like her to be Quaithe but honestly what Bloodraven says kinda implies she is dead. He says: "I have my own ghosts, Bran. A brother that I loved, a brother that I hated, a woman I desired. Through the trees, I see them still, but no word of mine has ever reached them. The past remains the past. We can learn from it, but we cannot change it." So at the very least he thinks that she is dead which is also possible but it would mean that they dont work together.
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Can't wait for elden ring
1:33:31 @DavidLightbringer So I am listening to this late. I notice you guys don't point out the Authrian references much. Blood Raven is also a direct reference to Merlin, a Wizard who is trapped in a cave by his, depending on the telling unrequited, love. Niume, entraps and entombs her unresisting mentor within a tree, in a hole underneath a large stone, or inside a cave. Merlin also in more recent legends uses his entombment as an opportunity to time travel, and learn about things in the future, making his tomb a place outside time. Merlin takes Arthur on these trips teaching him about the world, magic, and what it means to be a good king to prepare him to rule England. Pretty much a direct beat for beat rip
yeah no kidding wow. as I often admit, I'm not well versed in Arthurian myth
@@DavidLightbringer I've watched hundreds of hours of your content just never comment or make it to live streams, So many missed Memory Sorrow and Thorn references too. I usually have your stuff on in the background so I'll try to comment more when I see it. Quaithe is also a reference to Utuk'ku, Lady Silver Mask, from MST the Terrible Queen of the Norns and Great Grandmother of Ineluki. I have a very strong suspicion Quaithe is going to end up being Shiera Seastar based on everything GRRM is drawing from and is somewhat opposed to Bloodraven either directly or is just betting on a different horse, Danny.
Cool
Interesting, but I don't buy any of these. One thing I do wonder is if Melisandre and Quaithe, both being shadow binders, were trained and sent out to find the promised one by the same person or organization. Fits with your "tutelage triangle".
Elissa went Far, Man!
Yes❤
In Deep Geek just released a video on Quaithe! Would be awesome to see y'all together some day!
Quaithe the raven, Quoth the raven...
Honestly I wasn't a fan of Quaithe during my first read of asoiaf. I don't like riddles, they make me feel stupid 😂. But I've been more and more intrigued by her now that I know about theories of her hiding identity. I had a thought : Maybe Dany is not the only one who can see her and that's why she disappears when Missandei appears or anyone else. She could be really here, in the room with Dany, and could even touch her if she liked like the show version of the Night King touching Bran in a vision.
Is she a shadow from ashai, ashara, or shiera seastar is a bit of a tongue twister
david
mythic concepts needs an update😢😢😢😢
pleaseee ive been dyin now
please… the bastard channel needs new stuffs!!!!!
please david
please
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Took you guys 30 minutes to say that Tim has no sleaves of ink!
Great stream @David Lightbringer
Do you think you'll have Quinn's for a ASoIF/ Dune summit?
Also I.have a theory she (Quathe) has used or something like Faceless Man type & can be anyone (instead of no one) under that mask. It would certainly keep her identity well hidden.
Quinn’s older crossover with LML is what lead me to Dave’s channel all those turns of the moon ago.
1:25:22 of course, a bleeding star character invokes none other than Nissa-Nissa who it is said broke moon.
Surely Dany would comment if Quaith has Targ purple eyes?