So, for the average GT Pro, road rider/owner, there's not enough changes to warrant an early PX of their existing Triumph Tiger GT Pro. No better a dash, and only a little bit more power above 5krpm, where the bike seldom goes ( Except for bragging rights down the pub). Thanks for the review. Im constantly Inundated by Triumph marketing emails, though they've not really plugged the new bike, but then it'll sell well anyway, because, even with its minor faults, it's still a great bike.
It looks pretty. Pretty. One of the few 3 cylinder bikes if that's your thing. I like it. Honestly, we are somewhat spoiled for choice with all the bikes out nowadays. They are all just different flavours, but all pretty solid machines.
Seldom goes over 5k RMP? Speak for yourself old man! But yes if you have the previous generation of course you shouldn't take a massive financial hit for 13% more power. Give it a few more years, get your money's worth from that bike. And please for the love of god, do yourself a favor and twist that throttle once a while lol.
Had a test drive yesterday on the GT Pro. Very easy to drive, nice grunt from the AKRAPOVIČ, easy to manoeuvre in traffic, which was a surprise. The tech is an upgrade from my 660, but it could be a bit fast, and it does take quite a long time for the display to be ready after turning the key; just something you need to get used to, I suppose. I wish more bikes had Carplay.
Here one with Gt 2024. I just have fog lights and Triumph shift assist. I believe is enough. Too much tech for me, and preload behind is used rarely once u get what u feel is ok. From my point of view, one of the best bikes in versatility u can get. I tried gt off road (nothing risky) and i had very good feeling. Also i can say with no doubt, is one of the easiest rides, very light, good response. A bit vibration, but i like it, we ride a bike, not a car. Bad things to say something, still heat on ur knees, trolley in this bikes are huge compared with my versys, were more integrated. Enjoy
My question Adam is how does it compare to the Norden 901 offroad. On road they would be fairly similar I believe but how does the offroad handling, balance and poise compare to those bikes with the low-slung saddle fuel tanks and their lower centre of gravity? Does the Tiger carry its weight up high or does it hide it well? Can you feel that extra weight over the Norden?
Had a test ride a few years ago and wasn't impressed by the vibration they'd introduced to give it character. Have they engineered out this unwanted character with the new internals?
I test rode both he GT Pro and the Rally Pro at a dealer. It was 72˚F. The dealer turned on both the seats and grip heaters and after 10 minutes it was barely noticeable. He said he would have his tech check to see if they were working properly. 🤔
The Showa suspension on the Rally Pro is much better suited for that. The Rally Pro on road handles better than expected given it has a 21" front wheel.
Good to have some feedback on service intervals. 6k on the old one and 12k valves check. All in very expensive. What about this new model?? Good review that apart Adam. Thanks
Triumph now schedules valve clearance checks at 16,000 mi. Checked my Tiger valves myself at 19,000 mi and all were within spec. Will do the next check at 40,000 mi as I am not a rev junkie and seldom over 6000 revs. If you like to flog your engine you might want to follow Triumphs schedule. JMO
Screen information is under the subtitles. For us who need subtitles, this was not smart since we need to stop the video, turn off subtitles too see what you wrote, than turn the subtitles on and start the video. This makes it very hard for us to watch the video and get all the information you give us. Please do something about it in the next video ❤
They could've worked on reducing some weight. The upcoming bmw f900 gsa is touted at 219 kgs if I'm not wrong (don't know the exact version cos everything is an optional accessory on that it would seem).
You simply can not blame preload on the rear for any rider scrapping pegs. As it’s more about body positioning and corner entry control. No doubt preload plays a role, just not the first part as a great rider can adapt with the required skills.
Preload exists because we don't weight the same. Our riding styles are not the same. Blows my mind that GT PRO does not let you set up preload for your own weight. GT is better, you can actually set up the preload.
@@TheMrColak As an ex Australian Superbike pro racer I know more than most how to set up a bike. Both of the comments missed what I was actually referring too! Scrapping pegs! Not about different rider weights etc… 😬
@@marcusgeorge1825 You should not assume everyone is a pro rider like you are. Setting up preload properly should be the first thing they all do, before even thinking of reviewing new bikes!
After my test ride last week, I have to say the heat on my left knee was unbearable. I have a high tolerance to heat and pain living in the Arizona desert. But it was 70˚F out and my knee was burning from the engine heat. Felt like I was leaning on the exhaust header. Total deal breaker for me.
I test road it in November at 7 C temperature. I can't recall if I used first or middle heat setting. But I remember that it was plenty warm and not the highest setting. Maybe you use a really thick gloves and that's the issue? People also to me complained about Honda heated grips. Toured Europe with NC750X 2021 model, and never ran them on the hottest setting (except for a very short time until it starts to feel too hot) even if it's < 10 C and raining all day. But I don't use winter gloves, I use normal gloves, thus grips are always hot enough and keep my hand warm.
@@PovilasPanavas Yes, I have tried summer gloves and thick palmed winter gloves. The summer gloves do allow some heat to come through however, in the winter, the top of the hand is cold. Wearing winter gloves where the palm is thicker, the heat does not penetrate through the glove. Using the same pair of winter gloves, I ride my BSA Gold Star where I have fitted Oxford touring heated grips. Using the Oxfordshire, the problem completely disappears and my hands are nice and warm. Back to the Tiger, I have now resorted to heated gloves where the palm materials is relatively thin. The weak heat radiation from the Tiger grips does now work to a greater or lesser degree and with the heated gloves, my hands are now what I would call acceptable. Riding the BSA, I do not need to wear the heated gloves as the Oxfords are more than powerful. This is a problem across the Triumph range, not just the Tiger but Triumph do not appear to recognise there is some sort of issue.
I actually asked Triumph to check my 900 gt pro heated grips as they don't get that hot. My fingers were cold this morning. Thin or thick gloves make bo difference. My old fjr1300 had lovely warm grips.
Something reviewers of Rally Pro’s are very poor at is referencing the fact that to get the most out of off-road modes, you need to manually adjust the suspension. This changes the rake angle of the front tyre and makes a big difference to off road performance. I hope therefore that when you put this bike up against others in its class, that you will set it up accordingly. Otherwise the review will be flawed. Thanks!
Maybe this is a quibble but, shouldn’t the word “new” only apply to the first model of a lineup, examples in this case being the 2010 Tiger 800 and the 2020 Tiger 900?
I’m thinking of buying the rally pro because I love the looks of it my only concern is how good it would be on road as road is the only place I will be using it. I like the gt pro but prefer the rally looks
Need to get us to upgrade from our current decent bikes somehow. Some people are after the tech, some are after the power, some the comfort. Me, I’m mainly after the barely ridden bikes the other bunch is looking to get rid of.
Curious to try this new spec. I test rode the previous iteration a couple of times (as I really wanted to buy it) but was really underwhelmed by the engine.
There is no rear preload setting on 900 gt pro. How did you setup the preload for your weight? Solo rider means no preload at all. That is why they were scraping pegs. GT pro does not let you setup preload for your own weight and riding style. Huge triumph omission. By the way you cannot change rear preload on the go. You have to stop for it to actualy change.
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2uiyou cannot setup pre-load for a solo rider. You can choose these values: 0% preload, 90% preload, 94% preload and 100% preload. There is no way to set up correct preload based on your own weight, which is the whole point of the preload.
Got to be honest i like both these bikes. However, the Rally is much too tall ,I'm 5ft 9, and wouldn't feel comfortable even on the low seat setting, Enjoyed the review 😊,
I'm 5'7" with 30" inseam and I could almost flat foot the Rally Pro with the seat in the low setting. I had the balls of both feet down at the stop lights. Maybe the dealer had the preload cranked up too high. Always check the sag first.
That is why you still rock a telefon from 1963 and you have no cellphone and this comment was written by a friend of yours on his computer, because electronics are bad. Right?
Those are some great improvements, especially 13% more power for the road! Time to talk to the wife about an upgrade…… (upgrading the bike, not her 😂)
So, for the average GT Pro, road rider/owner, there's not enough changes to warrant an early PX of their existing Triumph Tiger GT Pro. No better a dash, and only a little bit more power above 5krpm, where the bike seldom goes ( Except for bragging rights down the pub). Thanks for the review. Im constantly Inundated by Triumph marketing emails, though they've not really plugged the new bike, but then it'll sell well anyway, because, even with its minor faults, it's still a great bike.
It looks pretty. Pretty. One of the few 3 cylinder bikes if that's your thing. I like it. Honestly, we are somewhat spoiled for choice with all the bikes out nowadays. They are all just different flavours, but all pretty solid machines.
Seldom goes over 5k RMP? Speak for yourself old man! But yes if you have the previous generation of course you shouldn't take a massive financial hit for 13% more power. Give it a few more years, get your money's worth from that bike. And please for the love of god, do yourself a favor and twist that throttle once a while lol.
Had a test drive yesterday on the GT Pro. Very easy to drive, nice grunt from the AKRAPOVIČ, easy to manoeuvre in traffic, which was a surprise. The tech is an upgrade from my 660, but it could be a bit fast, and it does take quite a long time for the display to be ready after turning the key; just something you need to get used to, I suppose. I wish more bikes had Carplay.
Here one with Gt 2024. I just have fog lights and Triumph shift assist. I believe is enough. Too much tech for me, and preload behind is used rarely once u get what u feel is ok. From my point of view, one of the best bikes in versatility u can get. I tried gt off road (nothing risky) and i had very good feeling. Also i can say with no doubt, is one of the easiest rides, very light, good response. A bit vibration, but i like it, we ride a bike, not a car. Bad things to say something, still heat on ur knees, trolley in this bikes are huge compared with my versys, were more integrated. Enjoy
It’s worth the change, just to get rid of those gash rev counters!
looking at selling my v strom 650 after winter and getting a tiger 800 :)
The Tiger will be a revelation after the strom, try to find a 3rd gen Tiger 800 ( mod year 2018 or 2019 ) as there are numerous improvements.
got a 660 which I love, but the new 900 looks really nice; looking forward to a test drive!
My question Adam is how does it compare to the Norden 901 offroad. On road they would be fairly similar I believe but how does the offroad handling, balance and poise compare to those bikes with the low-slung saddle fuel tanks and their lower centre of gravity? Does the Tiger carry its weight up high or does it hide it well? Can you feel that extra weight over the Norden?
I have one on order. It is sad to read that the mode-switching restriction is still there. It's so annoying. Great review!
Had a test ride a few years ago and wasn't impressed by the vibration they'd introduced to give it character. Have they engineered out this unwanted character with the new internals?
In other tests they have said the vibes are virtually all gone.
Little less vibs. New rubber mounts on the bars and the engine is working less - more refined
Wonder what's in store for the 850.
That triple sounds really nice.
yup
Hope the Ducati is included in that upcoming comparison???
Good point
Hi! One weakness of the Tiger 1200 is the heated grips, they barely heat. Is it the same on the new 900?
OEM heated grips are always poor when compared to the basic Oxfords. Can’t see these being any different.
@@903lewtest rode rally pro yesterday , heated grips were hot , so was seat . I haven't ridden the old tiger .
@@colin9967 That’s a good improvement! What were your temperatures?
@@903lew 9 degrees , raining , summer gloves . Had to turn them down . Enjoyed the bike , waiting for GT demo to arrive .
I test rode both he GT Pro and the Rally Pro at a dealer. It was 72˚F. The dealer turned on both the seats and grip heaters and after 10 minutes it was barely noticeable. He said he would have his tech check to see if they were working properly. 🤔
Do you think - with proper tires - the GT pro would get on well with 1 track logging roads?
The Showa suspension on the Rally Pro is much better suited for that. The Rally Pro on road handles better than expected given it has a 21" front wheel.
I am looking for a 80-20 mix of highway touring & off-roading. Which one do u suggest: 850 GS or 900 GT ?
Good to have some feedback on service intervals. 6k on the old one and 12k valves check. All in very expensive. What about this new model?? Good review that apart Adam. Thanks
Triumph now schedules valve clearance checks at 16,000 mi. Checked my Tiger valves myself at 19,000 mi and all were within spec. Will do the next check at 40,000 mi as I am not a rev junkie and seldom over 6000 revs. If you like to flog your engine you might want to follow Triumphs schedule. JMO
Valve now at 18,000miles. Thanks, I try my best
my 12k service last week was $1,551...crazy expensive bike to maintain (if you care about the warranty...).
Maintenance expenses are way overpriced ! I'll never ever buy another triumph again
@@Frank-xo7zj really
Screen information is under the subtitles.
For us who need subtitles, this was not smart since we need to stop the video, turn off subtitles too see what you wrote, than turn the subtitles on and start the video. This makes it very hard for us to watch the video and get all the information you give us.
Please do something about it in the next video ❤
You mentioned a few times the off road tires on the Rally Pro - what are they - Brand / Model ?
I second this question.
Metzler Torrance next or Bridgestone battle-axe. Depends on the version.
Anakee wild - I will double check notes
@@bobjohnson1633 that's the standard road biased tire
They could've worked on reducing some weight. The upcoming bmw f900 gsa is touted at 219 kgs if I'm not wrong (don't know the exact version cos everything is an optional accessory on that it would seem).
Being that I easily pick up my scrambler 1200, I'm not sure what the issue people have with a little bit more weight is.
Would there be a big difference with road handling on the new 900 Rally Pro to my GTPRO 900 ive got now
As an oldie cant see with these TFTs how a rider keeps their eyes on the road 😂😂
I don't know what your problem with them is. It's bright and clear in direct sunlight on mine.
@@bobjohnson1633 was thinking more fiddling around with all the menus whilst zooming along
You simply can not blame preload on the rear for any rider scrapping pegs. As it’s more about body positioning and corner entry control. No doubt preload plays a role, just not the first part as a great rider can adapt with the required skills.
Preload exists because we don't weight the same. Our riding styles are not the same. Blows my mind that GT PRO does not let you set up preload for your own weight. GT is better, you can actually set up the preload.
Less the preload and more the light springs made for small people.
I have to buy aftermarket springs for my scrambler 1200 because I lift weights.
@@TheMrColak As an ex Australian Superbike pro racer I know more than most how to set up a bike. Both of the comments missed what I was actually referring too! Scrapping pegs! Not about different rider weights etc… 😬
@@bobjohnson1633 You lift weights. We’ll good for you. Refer my original and added comment.
@@marcusgeorge1825 You should not assume everyone is a pro rider like you are. Setting up preload properly should be the first thing they all do, before even thinking of reviewing new bikes!
After my test ride last week, I have to say the heat on my left knee was unbearable. I have a high tolerance to heat and pain living in the Arizona desert. But it was 70˚F out and my knee was burning from the engine heat. Felt like I was leaning on the exhaust header. Total deal breaker for me.
Not good at 70 degrees, imagine when it’s over a 100 degrees there 🥵
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve That's what I told the salesman.
Question - Have triumph fixed the heated grips? Are they nice and toasty? Rather that useless in the winter?
See above
I test road it in November at 7 C temperature. I can't recall if I used first or middle heat setting. But I remember that it was plenty warm and not the highest setting. Maybe you use a really thick gloves and that's the issue?
People also to me complained about Honda heated grips. Toured Europe with NC750X 2021 model, and never ran them on the hottest setting (except for a very short time until it starts to feel too hot) even if it's < 10 C and raining all day. But I don't use winter gloves, I use normal gloves, thus grips are always hot enough and keep my hand warm.
@@PovilasPanavas Yes, I have tried summer gloves and thick palmed winter gloves. The summer gloves do allow some heat to come through however, in the winter, the top of the hand is cold. Wearing winter gloves where the palm is thicker, the heat does not penetrate through the glove. Using the same pair of winter gloves, I ride my BSA Gold Star where I have fitted Oxford touring heated grips. Using the Oxfordshire, the problem completely disappears and my hands are nice and warm. Back to the Tiger, I have now resorted to heated gloves where the palm materials is relatively thin. The weak heat radiation from the Tiger grips does now work to a greater or lesser degree and with the heated gloves, my hands are now what I would call acceptable. Riding the BSA, I do not need to wear the heated gloves as the Oxfords are more than powerful. This is a problem across the Triumph range, not just the Tiger but Triumph do not appear to recognise there is some sort of issue.
@@bankruptpensioner I see :( For sure would be nice to just use heated grips and do not play with heated gloves, etc.
I actually asked Triumph to check my 900 gt pro heated grips as they don't get that hot. My fingers were cold this morning. Thin or thick gloves make bo difference. My old fjr1300 had lovely warm grips.
who rides above 5 or 6k rpm mostly? what important is power delivery till below 5k rpm.
I’d love it if manufacturers did model launches on the Hardknott Pass!
In December?!
@@bennettsbikesocial Absolutely! A real test of the product!
Something reviewers of Rally Pro’s are very poor at is referencing the fact that to get the most out of off-road modes, you need to manually adjust the suspension. This changes the rake angle of the front tyre and makes a big difference to off road performance.
I hope therefore that when you put this bike up against others in its class, that you will set it up accordingly. Otherwise the review will be flawed. Thanks!
Yes, you should adjust. Factory suggested adjustments are listed in the manual and are quick and easy to do
Will this be a substantial upgrade from tiger 800 xrx in terms of power ?? ( 2016)
I upgraded from a 2015 800 xrx and it's worth every penny!
Thanks 🙏
Do you also find it less top heavy compared to 2015 ?
Maybe this is a quibble but, shouldn’t the word “new” only apply to the first model of a lineup, examples in this case being the 2010 Tiger 800 and the 2020 Tiger 900?
I’m thinking of buying the rally pro because I love the looks of it my only concern is how good it would be on road as road is the only place I will be using it.
I like the gt pro but prefer the rally looks
Bikes these days seem to be getting power boosts almost yearly just for the sake of it.
Need to get us to upgrade from our current decent bikes somehow. Some people are after the tech, some are after the power, some the comfort. Me, I’m mainly after the barely ridden bikes the other bunch is looking to get rid of.
New for 24' ?
Curious to try this new spec. I test rode the previous iteration a couple of times (as I really wanted to buy it) but was really underwhelmed by the engine.
It's the 900. It's gonna be the same. It doesn't even have a difference until you hit over 6000rpm.
Those colours are extra, so base price don't apply to them. Though, it's only +200£
There is no rear preload setting on 900 gt pro. How did you setup the preload for your weight? Solo rider means no preload at all. That is why they were scraping pegs.
GT pro does not let you setup preload for your own weight and riding style.
Huge triumph omission.
By the way you cannot change rear preload on the go. You have to stop for it to actualy change.
Not sure what you’re talking about? It’s got electrically adjustable preload and separate damping, selectable by the rider.
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2uiyou cannot setup pre-load for a solo rider. You can choose these values: 0% preload, 90% preload, 94% preload and 100% preload.
There is no way to set up correct preload based on your own weight, which is the whole point of the preload.
So, was that Kate in front of you?
She's a journalist from the USA but Chad's unsure of her name, sorry.
IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE PANNIER SEAT FOR 2024 ? tHERE IS NO BUTTON TO CHANGE RIDE MODES; QUICKLY (ROAD TO RAIN) VS GOING THRU THE MENU'S ?
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Got to be honest i like both these bikes. However, the Rally is much too tall ,I'm 5ft 9, and wouldn't feel comfortable even on the low seat setting,
Enjoyed the review 😊,
The rally is indeed great fun. I’m 5’7” and only nervous when stopping on uneven ground
My wife is 5'8", has the 2023 Rally Pro Aragon with low suspension, and she is quite happy on it.
I'm 171cm nearly 5'7 for ref
I'm 5'7" with 30" inseam and I could almost flat foot the Rally Pro with the seat in the low setting. I had the balls of both feet down at the stop lights. Maybe the dealer had the preload cranked up too high. Always check the sag first.
gt pro; 2 up riding reveiw for an extra 70 kg?
Maybe I'm a lone weirdo but, tft, modes & auto anything makes me instantly a non buyer....
Yep weird!
You are not alone. 👽
That is why you still rock a telefon from 1963 and you have no cellphone and this comment was written by a friend of yours on his computer, because electronics are bad. Right?
OTHER SITES SAY WEIGHT IS 200KG; GT OR PRO ? 222 IS THE SAME WEIGHT AS THE BMW 750GS; THATS TOP HEAVY AND NOTICEABLE !
Way too much technology on these bikes now. They are more like cars.
WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE DIGITAL RPM . VS THE COLOR WHEEL, THATS NO HELP