This Was One Of The Most Hostile Panels That Frank Luntz Has Ever Held (HBO)
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Update May 19 2021: VICE News produced a series of seven panels moderated by Frank Luntz from December 2017 to January 2019. Recently, it was reported that Luntz was on Ted Cruz’s reelection campaign payroll in 2018. VICE News was unaware of this affiliation, and Luntz did not disclose this information at the time of these productions.
"People had to suffer great deals for something most of the country doesn't want, which is a wall."
Frank Luntz talks with Californians about the longest shutdown in history on VICE News Tonight.
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“The Democrats are frightened because he's delivering on every single promise.”
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the dems should have hired Luntz a long time ago we still can he is one sharp tack
Is there a full version of this?
When did vice start tossing Republicans salad?
VICE News is vice pro trump ?
None of the wall supporters can give actual verifiable stats and evidence that illegal immigration is A.) a WORSENING problem B.) that a wall would actually be effective in stopping what historically declining illegal immigration is occurring.
Why? Because illegal immigration is trending down since 2014 and even Trump's own administration stats show that MOST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and DRUGS cross at PORTS OF ENTRY and OVER STAY VISAS!!!!
Wake up you right wing sheeple fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL. "If Trump is responsible for the shutdown, why doesn't Trump get credit for opening the government back up?" For the same reason someone who steals your car doesn't get a reward for bringing it back.
nice one
Facts
Oh God! It would seem straight forward right?
@@fredrichoshunrinde873 right its common sense, but these gullable fools shows us that common sense isnt common at all
Didn't they only agree to a short term budget because workers unions were threatening to not show up to work?
Trump repeatedly promised that Mexico would pay for the wall. Let nobody forget that.
Obama repeatedly promised you could keep your doctor. Let knowbody forget that.
@@iancornell141 whataboutism doesn't change the fact that Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall
Trump never promised to end ISIS but he did it
@@phanatic215 im simply using that as example of how Presidents make claims they never fulfill
@@brianlopez1340 only in his mind
First thing McConnell proposed after reopening the govt: repealing estate taxes for billionaires
Priorities old chap.
My umpteenth yacht is of the utmost priority don't you know?
@@bakedbean37 Tax deductions for private jet owners were a part of the tax bills proposed by this admin WTF!
Don't forget anti BDS laws that Congress was worried about that were passed. Make Israel Great Again. Our politicians don't care about us.
@TraitorShamer and have been fooled into thinking one day on some planet they'll be the bajillionaire..
You know this talk about taxes keeps going on but has one politician Republican or Democrat talk about reducing spending or have a more moderate budget? The problem isn’t in the who’s who in being taxed, the problem is what we’re spending all this damn money on.
Tax CUTS for rich folks was more important than our CRISIS .
This.
remember this whenever anyone claims the republicans and the elite actually give a shit about the people. Tax cuts on the wealthiest are absolutely morally unjustifiable.
Daniel Harvey IV they finance our fraud aka selections election and they always get a great return on their blood money investment
Come up with a multi million idea and you will be rich soon and stop hating rich people because without them you will be unemployed
its really sad how uninformed some people are on the process of government...maybe if they know how shit worked they would have a better perspective
Confirmation bias my friend. You think those people that have picked a side are ever going to look for factual information that conflicts with their bias?
phanatic215 lol that’s literally my favorite thing to do
@13randon 13axter citizens don't. They pick a side, then agree with whatever politician that has that letter next to their name...even if it's in their worst interest.
Thank the frequent, widespread public education cuts (since Bush Jr) for that.
plato's ship of state my friend..
Did NO ONE bring up that Donald Trump has always employed & still employs a LOT of illegal immigrants?
"The Associated Press has found documentation showing that Melania Trump broke immigration law when she first came to the US in 1996 - by entering the country on a tourist visa and then working as a professional model."
Hmm I wonder how many of them he has actually ever paid?
I like this. Can you please post more?
these are the best things vice posts
@Zeth Wilson these conversations always feel so real and honest, and polite and confrontational at the same time.
I love it
How much does Frank Luntz hate his life?
I mean he's not that bright just like some of the idiots he polls.
Always like when VICE airs this segment. It not only shows the division of opinion, but the passion and emotion that come with these arguments that are often ignored
As well as the fact that many people are simply ill informed on the details and nuance
@@derek4412 agreed. Host was framing the questions to inflame and stoke emotions. Notice how it quickly escalated? Another 5 minutes and they would be scream shouting, cursing, or walking out. Some had very short fuses.
@@derek4412 I think this helps everyone see the other side's thinking.
@@janewright315 you'd have pretty wishful thinking to assume that most Americans are well informed enough to have a civil discussion regarding politics. Just take a look at every single one that identifies as anything other than independent. It's because they don't want to have to think too hard about what ideology they should be holding.
@@CarrizalesVO eliminating religion and fairy tales which glorify stupidity and lack of questioning and critical thinking would be a good first step in combination with properly funding and managing education
If you believe that we need a wall please go into your garage, turn on your car, and wait.
& take deep breathes
but mass shootings a crisis? nah 🤦🏻♂️
Number Eight or Nine? I can’t tell if you’re just really stupid or sarcastic
Yeah we could of paid a lot of mental health medical bills today instead of illegal baby doctor bills today. That would hopefully help the future epidemic of kids deciding to shoot everyone. I agree with you.
@@RickyB418 or reduce the military budget since it's bigger than any other country's budget in the world. And stop giving the rich tax breaks and making them contribute more.
There is a bill trying to add a 50% ammo tax in Connecticut. Not sure how that is gonna stop mass shootings.
I blame Mr. Burns.
Peter dude is obviously russian bot lol
"everything I don't like is a Russian bot" the msnbc guide to circumventing discussion
I don't disagree though that he's a moron
@C caymer um I'm pretty sure were also a part of the problem to
@C caymer Trump 2020 baby!
@C caymer how are central-american immigrants (whether illegal or legal) making the country worse? Not like they're stealing jobs that YOU'D take, I'm sure.
2:15
“Who’s the other senate guy?”
“McCarthy!”
Vice, can you at least invite some somewhat educated people next time?
Or someone who was born in the millennium.
That would be a much much less accurate representation of average Americans. A majority of Americans can't name a single SCOTUS Justice, so the odds of them knowing the Senate Majority/Minority Leaders? Not so good.
Also, remember that Frank Luntz is a pollster---he especially is looking for people that fit in the middle of the bell curve of whatever the group is (registered voters, Democrats, Republicans, those aged 40-54, etc)
Everyone is having a conversation and then the swedish guy starts😂
I appreciate how Frank tried to rationalize the situation when half the room said the shutdown was a good thing.
The collapse of an empire.
And the rest of the world is watching it and 🤦🤦🤦.
Trump- Mexico will pay for the wall
His supporters- ok
Trump- I really meant you will pay for it
His supporters- umm, ok
"Hostile", that sounded tamer than most of my family get togethers when politics gets brought up. lol
Gotta get that clickbait *eyerollllllll* (DO BETTER, MEDIA.)
Frank Luntz is Lucifer's AD guy.
This isn't "hostile" ... This is just people talking ... Why should people be afraid to disagree with each other?
Is this the full video or is their a longer version somewhere else. It seemed very edited down and ending almost on a cliff hanger and I wanna see the whole thing.
Still lovin the Frank Luntz segments! These mini polls are one of the best chunks of journalism out there. Keep 'em coming!
I love the one chick at the end, she's like, "nobody ever listens to me, and it's my time and I don't care if it sounds stupid or not, I'm going to say it then people are going to hear it".
I hear she got a job at Fox ;)
Wall is not gonna stop them!!! El chapo had tunnels under his bathtub in every hideout :D
I love that the former is the only one with a lick of sense
“Trumps for the working people”
LOL
The description they provided for the video: "Frank Luntz talks with Californians about the longest shutdown in history on VICE News Tonight.", should be the title...
The guy who speaks with an accent knows more about American laws than native born Americans.
Super Bowl stadium: 1.6 billion. Wall: 5 billion.
Wooooo........that woman at the end has drank the Kool-Aid !!!!
Ol Frank at it again.....Mr Death Tax himself......lol
You can just hear the crazy from that one at the very end.
The chick in black? She was a real piece of work.
Did you know there is a place in the world where building a big wall is more important than taking care of the population with a National health care system.
The only dude who was informed on this panel was the guy conceding that allowing a precedent of bypassing Congress and declaring a national emergency is not the way.
LOL @ the woman who said "for the everyday American worker. That's why he reopened the government" @1:05. Seriously? He caused the problem to begin with, so he should get a pat on the back for temporarily solving it?
If somebody sets fire to a house and burns it down and then puts the fire out using water, does he get rewarded for putting the fire out? Stupid question he asks...that guy.
As everyone one argues, I just wanna sit and watch the cute anime girls playing instruments.
Is there a link to longer versions of these panels?
If someone created a video dictionary, this video should be the definition of the word Democracy.
That Senate Republican guy ... McDougle... McGrady... McCarthy!!
LMFAO
To understand this shutdown it helps if you understand everything involved, and if you do, then you know your heads of state.
Why did you skip so many people in the start?
As a U.S Marine veteran, Billions of dollars (from the wall budget )can go far in healthcare and homelessness instead. Our commanding in chief cannot dictate his proposals without consulting Congress.
The one guy who is worried about eminent domain, got your back.
We should be having such heated debates over policies to combat climate change. The real tragedy of trump is the time lost to distraction about BS. Time we do not have.
Climate change isnt real. Change my mind.
Tia Sprockett can I actually try to change your mind or just bluffing?
@@Thebobbyman no im really serious, I have a open mind
I mean the only debate to be had there is where to allocate resources and what rules to impose to combat it. A debate about the topic itself is nonsensical, given the amount of scientific data we have.
@@fakesmilez1 Agreed! I fixed my comment for clarity.
If I was there I would just repeat over and over ... “ when is the check from Mexico coming?? “
I clicked mostly because these Frank Luntz panels are always great (I am NOT getting into him or the politics), but I also had to make sure he was gonna keep bringing the heat in these vids he does...he didn't disappoint. (Talking about his Independence AF1's for anyone who was wondering what the Hell I'm on about...)
As a US taxpayer I don't want to pay for it.
Is this the whole episode for this segment?
The german immigrant and that russian chick talia. Lol
I would like to listen to this without the cuts. There is such a wide gradient of thought in that room a five minute video doesn't do it justice.
Trumpers: People need to respekt muh President!
Also Trumpers: Is Nancy Pelosi committing treason!?
I see a "Karen". Can you spot the Karen?
Remember how congress approved a total of 5 billion for the "Cash For Clunkers" program back in 2009? A 2017 study in the American Economic Journal found that the program, intended to increase consumer spending, reduced total new vehicle spending by $5 billion.
This show is the best content VICE makes
hurry up Elon, i need to move to Mars
Everyone on here is just the mirror image of one another, comments included lol.
Am I the only one who thought that this was constructive? Actually figuring out what people think about the issue?
whats with the low couches- they all look like they're squatting lol
The women who is a voice coach would say a government shutdown is okay🤣🤣
This is normal and I love that these folks are openly arguing. It’s not awful it’s beautiful. It’s awful when nobody can argue anymore on politics. It’s perfectly normal to disagree! Even if it gets heated. Free people argue over issues, thankfully and hopefully forever.
Ummm, no one was actually that hostile at all.
The dude who sounds like Klaus from American Dad actually thinks his opinion matters, he’s not even an American.
Frank Luntz clearly makes a lot of money. That living room looks sweet
Well then I’ll just sit back and grab the popcorn...
omfg someone gathered these people from walmart except the architect.
Frank, I wish you would do a little more to moderate it.
I understand the desire to display the heated arguments and debates, but this tease only feeds the fire as it leaves out any resolution.
You really think people are going to spend the time digging into the meat of these debates? No, they'll take what they see here as the voice of this polarized paradigm. I like that your panels are expanding and I like that there is more rational debate.
That said, some moderation of the tone while allowing the panelists to express their view would be helpful to discourse without influencing their ideas.
Finally people talking realistically
They should have had some govt. workers who weren't paid during the shutdown join in....
YES!
Hostile? I thought I’d people exchanging blows 😂
The national emergency option will set a scary precedent. People must remember that the power between political parties goes back and forth. Your party may not always be in power
Bring these people back today!! I want to hear what they have to say today! Shamful what's happening at the boarder. You realize those who are doing it the legal way can't get in now
'At the border'
Those people who answered "media", I just was absolutely befuddled. They don't have ANY part in these decisions!
That Jordan kid seems like the only one that is remotely informed about what they're talking about.
Almost none of these people had any knowledge about this.
4:46 whoaaa there gabiru slow down a bit.
Sight, I notice that I just dont care anymore
I always admired channels who reach this high.... thank you for inspiring me, and I'll keep posting videos until someone notices it... God bless to all small channels, we all can make it, just trust the process....
WORLD WONDERS You can do it dude.. just keep goin
@@rubenlasmarias3950 uhh?
Love these interviews. Instead of pundits who talk 24 hours straight, can the news just go to the people every once and a while.
Anybody hostile towards Frank Luntz is ok with me.
horrible. they don't know anything! 'who's the senate guy...' brrr
The guy with the glasses sounds like he may have jumped the fence.
"People had to suffer great deals for something most of the country doesn't want, which is a wall."
Sorry Vice, that's not what I heard.
12,000 to 14,000 to 18,000 people. I think that’s a national emergency in any state. I as 1 person invading Mexico would be put in jail for the same.
They talk about our country like it’s a tv show. They’re all debating on the plot, who did what to whom, and what’s gonna happen next..
NEPOTISM
WHY WON'T FRANK LUNTZ GO AWAY????????? He only has job because of NEPOTISM!!!!!!!
Who's the other guy?
Everyone: Mcshumer, McCoshi, McSchamalapa
Omg that lady at the end. 🤦🤦🤦🤐🤐🤐
That German pissed me off
Vice stop interrupting the interviews. You did it with the Black conservatives and now this video. I want to see the whole thing.
You have to love the guy who actually said "We are the only country in the world that doesn't have border guards, we have border patrol"....umm what?
Anything happens: "Orange man bad!"
Thank goodness some of them are brave enough to stand up to the rhetoric.
I've seen Frank Luntz host much more hostile panels than this.
This is great, the big rollers had these pions confused and emotional. Lmaol.
The problem with society is that people are fed "Facts" from both sides. It comes down to bias when it comes to which "facts" you want to believe. How are the masses ever going to know the hard truth if it's being suppressed?
For either side to declare a national emergency and shutdown the government to invoke any agenda can lead to very serious situations. Period.
Food for thought "when you lose, don't ever lose the lesson." class dismissed....
fighting for something and saying "F you, I don't do compromises and I'll shut down the government if I don't get funding for the wall" are two completely different things.