Are Asian Koreans ,Chinese, Japanese considered less intelligent when they speak English differently from black people in America . Are White Germans, French and Italians considered less intelligent when they speak English differently from black people in America . English has never been a language for any black people in the history of the planet . It is an adopted language and cannot be used as a yard stick for intelligence . Black Jamaicans, Black Nigerians and Black British have adopted the language because of their history . Same with black Brazilians and Portuguese . Deaf People who cannot speak do not lose their intelligence either . There is a difference between language barrier and social bias . Language barrier can be used as scape-goat to reinforce social bias and prejudice . Black people in DC suburbs for example can be biased against black people from Oakland and use how they speak to reinforce their biases and prejudice .
@@pplopde4437 When you come from a place like the US, and people are begging you for money, laid back and perk up to do the "grin and shuffle" for non-blks to get money, blk people are going to look down on them, even the non-blks. The asking people for money for nothing needs to cease. They shouldn't assume blk people from the states are all wealthy. Many that moved there with nothing have acquired way more than they would have ever had in the US. They get more "bang for the little bucks" they have. The other groups of people you mentioned are not known for doing that.
@@pplopde4437 White Americans will treat these people like they are less intelligent because of English language level, not Black Americans, we really don't care.
That's everywhere. You are higher on the hierarchy when you leave America. For example, when people in Europe find out you are from a "good" country then they treat you better.... This happens to everyone.
I lived in Uganda for 18 years and having lived in the US for 10, I can testify that it goes both ways. A lot of Africans assume that foreigners are not that smart either.
It’s not just African Americans who think they are superior to the locals. It’s also the Africans who have lived abroad and returned home after many years.
ok so we should have to have a clear ways to merge into the social structure so we can clearly understand ought nots and oughts. meaning maybe try some type of african american villages. that will serve to fully introduce african american back into african societies. not as a permanent residence but sonething to help control the flow and reduce the stress on all parties. the same should be done for africans coming here although black americans have very little control over that process
Yes. Oshay refer to them as the people who originally are from said countries, ie, Uganda and live in the West. Then, they return to their home countries and act superior to the locals. He said that such groups have been at the forefront of superior/inferior behavior more than African Americans or British Blacks. African Americans or British Black, who are not originally from Africa or whose relations are not from those African countries, may not have the connections in said African countries
Not all so think about that. Low minded returnee some act like that. Also for their own Security Due to betrayals of some local individual its better they be mindful of themselves.
Let me say this: we're seeing the same thing on both sides of the pond. There are two stereotypes: one is that Africans who go to America view themselves as superior to African Americans. On the other side, there are rumors that some African Americans by themselves as superior to Africans. We have to look at the class of people going to both places: middle and upper middle class. Lower classes usually aren't traveling because they can't afford it. More than being lower class, these are usually people who can relate much better to people no matter where they're at in the world. I'll say this: when I was in Ghana most of the African Americans I spoke to denounced other African Americans who thought they were better than Ghanaians. In fact, I don't think I met any African American who thought they were better than Ghanaians. On the other side, I've always heard terrible rumors about Africans believing themselves to be superior to African Americans, but I have never met one person like that, although I'm sure they exist. My point is this: every group has a$$holes, but it's absolutely ignorant and unintelligent to generalize the bad behaviour of a few with the many. Love y'all much. Dr. Taylor
Exactly!!!! I've met africans in america with that mentality, thinking they're something superior because of their african blood and culture. What a trip!
You are lying wooofully, that idea of African come to America and feel superior is just a prove of how white washed black Americans have been, using the same tactics to brush off the accusations laid against them.
Quick story: I told a few of my "black" co-workers that I was moving to Africa, even after I told them all of the positives, they still looked at me like I had 2 heads and also told me I must be out of my mind. Some people are very comfortable in their demise 🤔
for a lot of people out there when you speak about "Africa" then you are not thinking straight. And to Africanas, most people who speak about Africa in that way, then you are not "seeing" straight
As a Ghanaian I would advise you to visit a few times first and even for extended period time past the honeymoon phase and make serious plans before moving to Africa For some of American’s shortcomings they still have good safety nets when times get hard but not in most of Africa. If you plan well you will do great in African but I will always advice my black American brothers and sisters to do their homework diligently and not come based on Emotions cause for example Ghana can be unforgiving.
Golden Heart 8 bus loads of Africans are on their way to the U.S. Border! Absolutely, If Africa is go great why are their people running to the U.S. and Canada "By Any Means Necessary!" Grown people are FREE to do as they will but don't attempt to pass Africa off as some safe haven with all the trapping of paradise, because that it is not. While you criticize someone else for choosing not to go. If the U.S. dollar fail, many of you are going to be SCREWED! Africa has plenty of Human and Political flaws, that are massive that you know nothing about. Many of you think they are feeling you like that! Let the cash stop flowing and you will see a change, pronto! So you may be the one comfortable in your own demise!
Good conversation… and it’s why I continue to shake my head when some Black Americans think that all of their problems will go away once they “return to the motherland” and are surrounded by other people of the same skin colour. People are still people. You will find good ones and bad ones. Ignorant ones and wise ones. No matter WHERE you live or travel to. Judge people by their character and go from there. Forget about the colourism.
No. There is a difference. Africans in Africa naturally have respect for African Americans but when they go there, some are being told to avoid African Americans because they might fall into trouble because of gangsterism, end up getting shot or fall into trouble. And to the mind of Africans, they are in America to hustle, make money and all that, so they would rather avoid African Americans in order to stay focus and get out of trouble but y'all miss understand it as feeling superior. How can a broke African man from a lesser background goes to America and start feeling superior? It's far from that. We all have to work on ourselves to create unity amongst us
@@alexandermathews9710 Former slave state? So most of the world then. Arguably depending on how one looks at it most of the world may still be a slave state
This is a similar narrative and sounds much like that which the Americo- Liberians in Liberia were accused of. In the USA and every location in the world, the working class. or poorer people work for those of more affluence. This is a dangerous narrative that can cause divisional problems amongst people!
I'm going to have to disagree with ODJ about Black Americans not being able to differentiate between dialect and intellect. I'm a Brother from NC who moved to NYC to be a MTA Rail Traffic Controller. I dealt with a lot of New Yorkers who made that mistake. After explaining to them I was hired from NC out of all these NYers coveting and networking for this job, and where I come from you actually have to be smart and qualified to get a decent job, unlike NYC where jobs are plentiful and availability is more important than actual ability. Some took offense as I said that any idiot can get a job in NY, but they left me and country twang the hell alone afterwards.
thanks for the comment bro! I would think many may have that issue but its a good point! Even in the West coast, we thought guys from the South were not as smart as from from Cali.
Country Steve don't get too swell headed. In NY their hiring practices is to hire a certain number of people from other states for civil service jobs like police, fireman, nurse, MTA Rail Traffic Controller, Bus Drivers etc. Don't you see a lot of white police officers and firefighters in crown heights and Flatbush Brooklyn. Why is that? NY hire white guys from NC, SC, PA, NJ and all over the US to police Brooklyn streets. When I use to live in NY I remember thousands of black New Yorkers would go and take the MTA railroad test and Suffolk and Nassau county sheriff's test and whenever a high percentage of black New Yorkers pass the test, they through it out and said their was some irregularities on the test to deny jobs to Black New Yorkers. You are talking a bunch of crap. You got the MTA job because NY have to hire a certain number of people from other states for those jobs. That's written in their hiring practices. You sound like you have a inferiority complex. Bro, I am a Jamaican who parents migrated to NY and I would never disrespect New Yorkers. They are some of the hardest working people and they also know how to hustle. NY has a lot of Caribbean and Southern black Americans who move their to make it what it is today. What you are saying is a bunch of nonsense. Small state mentality. Let go of it and move on with your life.
Living in Ghana I am guilty of looking for the “English” to equate to “understanding”. I have since learned, that one can speak good “English” and be a fool!!
When I was in the Navy, my Jamaican coworker used to always say "I may talk with an accent, but I don't think with one." Just like when an American from either coast listens to someone from the South. We can easily, with bias, think they're slow. Not true at all.
He is still an African. If you take a lion out of Africa and it lives in America fir 400 years breeding with other lions taken out if Africa... You're still left with an African lion 🦁.
One of the Best EP so far. I loved that Jonita’s part about the village city transitions with the locals. I also loved Oshay’s point too about the checking in part. Gaba raised good points too. I learned my lessons from UG too. But as a local that was born there and left at age 6. It was a hard transition at first coming back after 24 years. I had to learn the UG ways from the locals. Even thou I was an Ugandan by birth. I learned that there’s just certain things you’ll need to learn from the locals. Ultimately, I leaned that those from the diaspora have to collaborate with the locals. You can’t do things by yourself. Great EP. I’ll see you guys soon ❤️🫶🏾🇺🇬📲🌍 Shak LDN 🇬🇧via UG 🇺🇬👁️
In America people from the south would move up north for a while. Then go back south to visit family and act like they were rich and better than everyone down south.
It is all that Europeanized mindset. Thumbing nose down to the locals. I remember growing in Nigeria they called the British immigrants from Nigeria, "the been to's". They may be from our neighborhoods, heck from our own extended family, but they have a certain air of arrogance for having lived in or been to the UK. So we called them, "the been to's"
@@sarantoure7233 Yep! Talk to any Nigerian about 50yrs or older, he/she will tell you about the "been to's". They have "been to" America or UK, they struggle to speak to you in American or British accent, people let them cut in front of the line, even within the family, you filter their water, cook their food specially, all kinds of conceited nonesense. It is that "white proximity racism".
I think the difference is Black Americans witnessed Afrikan people come to the states and do the the same exact thing and I dont believe it's out of hate people just tend to stay within their comfort zones and sometimes it's to preserve their own culture.
Its sounds like yall are making an observation about class in the Black community. Wealthy Black people or middle class Black folk will look down on anyone not doing as well as they are regardless of their connection to them. Its gross to see somethibg thst will increase in power as race issues become less prevelant
I've lived and worked in East Africa initially for 9 years, with 2007-2015, and returning in 2021 until present with progresses being experienced, but comparable in my experience to living in Turkey in the early to mid 2000's, but knowing the future is going to be stellar if the progress continues., on its current path😊
I agree with what she has said. We experienced that in Liberia. From my point of view, African Americans and people born outside of Africa need a lot of work on themselves to learn how to integrate rather than separate themselves. One ❤
It’s always us that need to do the work. Moving to places no where close to advanced as where we come from so we need to dumb down, shutup and assimilate instead of uplift. That’s the pan African package.
@@jadekamelion if you say Africans do separate themselves from African Americans when they go to the USA, then you are missing the point of this discussion. I am a Liberian. If you don't know Liberia, Liberia is a country in West Africa where free blacks were repacited in the 1820s and 1821 Liberia, was born. The blacks from America decided to retained the culture, lifestyle and etc they had brought from the United States and for most part did not integrate with the native society. From my point of view, this is Africa, where all blacks are from in the first place, not integrating shows your supremacy. Let's go back to where you said, Africans go to the USA and separate themselves from African Americans, I don't know in what context, but if they do, then it is on an individual level. But what is been discussed here is African Americans or people born out of Africa going back to the motherland and taking themselves superior, is very wrong in my view. Treatments that make people feel as if they are nothing. And don't get me wrong, there is a huge practice of classism in Africa but we that have experienced discrimination, racism and other form of rejection living amongst the majority whites, we should learn from our own experiences, how it made us feel when we are treated in a certain way that has been disrespectful.
@@sankofaa3000 I think this has to do with individual personality. Some people do integrate easily and some people see things very narrowly. No-one is asking you to shut up and dump yourself in the mess of the continent. Of course you need development in your life by lifting yourself but we are saying here. Don't take yourself superior over anyone or feel that you are better then people you met living their lives before you get there. Be the change you want to see in people. Of course It is bothside. Integration also shows your humanity. We don't know everything just because we came from a from abroad.
As a young African American man who's never been to the continent of Africa. I just want to say this. I'm not going to Africa to save anybody. I am moving to Africa to heal physically, mentally and spiritually. I believe the people of Africa can impact me more than I will them. When I first step on those shores. I want to leave everything Westernized about myself behind and fully integrate into whatever culture I happen to be in. Either in West or East Africa. We cannot turn back the hands of time, but I want to live a true African life. The way my ancestors lived. Maybe I'm being naive, but I hope one day to train with the elder wisemen of the glorious tribes.
@Apollo Mayaimi I did a DNA Test and the vast majority of my ancestry comes from Nigeria, Sierra Leone and the Congo. What was your hidden meaning when asking this question?
@davidcaldwell5420 ignore this fool. He is a lost cause from the FBA which stands for Foudantional Born Americans. It is a group of African Americans that see Native African as their real enemy. Since they sold them. Which did happen but that is a very small fraction of the Atlantic Slave Trade. So he is mad that you acknowledging any link to Africa and wanting to learn from the continent. As a native born African I say welcome to your Ancestral home. Hope everything goes according to plan. He is trying to be coy but that is the gist of this exchange with you. He isn't worth your time.
I recognised this behaviour in AA's visiting jamaica back in the late 80's. One woman I recalled was so offensive, she couldn't understand why pple reacted negatively to her. I think the impression given was that we were beneath her. I am pleased to say pple are better informed today and more willing to learn.
M Ghana one can !i've with their own group. But without links to the established groups always expect to be a stranger. There will always be a Liberia or Pre expulsion Uganda serving as a cautionary tale to bring wariness.
Only the insecure ones amongst them would anyway. But we have no such insecurity when it comes to them. They are welcome but will never control anything with us. That is better sought in one of the lesser developed Afrikan countries where folks may not know better.
@@BonsuBigWhale if they're not associating with you, controlling you is not on their agenda. China is already on their way to doing that but of course y'all are submissive to China...
@@BonsuBigWhale nothing has changed with y'all. Always got smoke for people that look like y'all vut won't sat anything to non Black's in your country that don't associate with y'all either... Ghana is not that developed when you still don't have 24 hour electricity and I heard your roads still need a lot of work... Moving to Ghana is definitely over paying for poor infrastructure
Great conversation! So many hard truths exposed. There is an innate imperfection built into people, it’s called “superiority”. It’s even more difficult to digest when a slave wants to enslave on some level, to amplify his own self-importance, because his value has been compromised in some way. Almost every subject that was touched upon boiled down to this, and competition is the mechanism that drives it. We are taught (erroneously) that competition is a good thing, but it only fuels a contentious environment. Competition was on the plantation, in school, in sports, ethnically, in the workspace, nationally in wars, etc. If you can divide them, you can conquer them (no matter who it is). Trying to get one-up on the next person is the ill of society. It was demonstrated in this podcast when Oshay said to his guest, “Let me hurry up an say something before you do all the talking and take over my show”. Or when the guest admitted he felt better than the employees his parents hired. We have to recognize this trait within ourselves (because we’re all guilty) and embrace humility. The world would have you think that humility is a dirty word, but humility unites and empowers people. If we can remove ego from the equation, and want to see the very best for our brothers too, then we are a force to be reckoned with. Thank you again for a great show.
For u to respond like that shows u are in that category....it means u do this evil deeds under the rug...in sneaky ways...😂😂😂the truth revealed ur evil side...this podcast ddnt mention ur name
I am so sorry to hear that our American and European sisters and brothers would take the virus of supremacy to Africa. How can we bridge the gap between us and our African family if we behave in that manner? If we are to make the diaspora powerful, we must shake the habits of our oppressors. This is equally true for Africans who treat members of the diaspora indifferently. My grandmother did not go past the 3rd grade, yet she was an entrepreneur who was able to pass down property, including acres of land to my mother who, despite her higher education, would not have had, had my grandmother not left it to her. Some of the smartest and wisest people I have ever met never graduated high school, yet they know life from an unvarnished level and were able to impart wisdom to me that spared me those hardships through their knowledge. I have longstanding friendships with people whose English is their second language, but by focusing on their messages, I realize they are witty, talented, and wise, and I appreciate our friendship for that reason. What I learned in life is that grace builds bridge that arrogance can't cross.
@@apollomayaimi6816They still think of AAs as the lesser Africans they shipped to America. Now that we've come back better than we left they envy us. AAs are superior... but those of us who come to Africa aren't looking to flex or oppress but to build.
Africans come to the U.S. and do the same thing. Black Americans aren't crying I don't understand... Why can't Black Americans do the same as y'all when y'all come to the U.S.?
In most cases the ones that go abroad and come back are referred to as weak, lazy and stupid, the locals thinks u can’t manage the money and u gonna spend it crazily, like u gonna be paying ppl to do simple stuff for you, they might even call u muzungu or broiler
I’m from Southern Africa living in Australia. The same way AA think intelligence is measured by the way you speak English is honestly the same way we think when it comes to AA. The English we’re taught makes AA English makes them sound unintelligent. I honestly used to think that the AA who are bold enough to come on UA-cam we’re very intelligent especially the ones bold enough to talk about Africa but that’s not the case, most of them say things that are so untrue and don’t research before speaking. And also the accent and speaking fast in English isn’t intelligence either. Our level of intelligence also depends with your environment, our African elders are super intelligent because they are literally nurses, doctors, farmers, engineers and so on without formal education, if compared to AA elders they might actually be all that but with formal education. Being African is being humble, that’s why it’s important to learn from everyone, Africa is so different from the west, you need to learn how people are surviving there and adopt, learn about African medicine, eat clean food, broaden your knowledge about your culture and participate with humility. My family tries to put me on a pedestal just because I’m in the diaspora and taking care of there back home but I always remind them that they shouldn’t do that and that I am just a child because they will let you make decisions you shouldn’t be making coz you have money and it will cause resentment, hate and division in the family. It’s important to remind the people back home that you are just like them instead of looking down upon them, life is like a wheel, you don’t want to get to a point where you lose everything then go back to the people you mistreated and looked down upon for help.
i disagree. i think the uniqueness of african americans especially the ones who come first. is exactly what the continent needs in the right spot. dont get me wrong it needs to be alot of what you said such as humility, relearning of what it means to be african. but what was learned here should not be lost through erasure of the identity and culture. that would be dumb from someone who was attempting to sound smart
This brother something else! He literally just agreed with Tina from the other day regarding the privilege accorded to the American brethren/Sistren in Africa (UG). And yet, on that day, he was dead set in disagreement with Tina. Probably why Tina hasn't been seen back here yet. Come on Kenganda, don't do a smart sistah dirty, y'all need the challenge from a Tina. Yes y'all do!!! 😊😊😊
If it's like that in Africa...I may as well stay here in America and continue the fight for what my ancestors deserve.... I'm not going from 1 dysfunctional family to another 1
that was the very thing we from the Caribbean folks was talking about today. the constant abuse they have been going through. it going to take some time for them to get over the hurt. then to get acclimated with their new surroundings. as a Jamaican it would do you good to take off your shoes and socks and become one with the ground once you get there.
Don't all immigrant groups form communities in their new homes? That's why we have Chinatowns and Little Italy's, etc. in the states. Why are diasporeans being held to a standard that no immigrant group meets anywhere in the world?
Exactly! It’s even like this in the states everybody can claim their ethnicity but when we do it everybody is in a uproar. We watch folks wave their countries flags, eat their ethnic food but when we say anything about who the original Black Americans/African-Americans of the states are then it’s this argument of well what makes them different from immigrants as if we all don’t already know.
@@foreverfly3113 I think it's different because we are supposed be going HOME to be with our brothers and sisters. To me that means trying to integrate with the Africans learning their culture and language and in turn teaching them about our history and struggles and the deviousness of our oppressors, and then finding common ground to live together. It will be a slow process but so satisfying in the end when we have an Africa with all its people at home. UNIFIED UNBEATABLE UNSTOPPABLE..
@@gingerrum4909 I understand and share most of your sentiment. However, I’m not for erasure of my ethnic and subculture either. It’s perfectly fine to be on open to learning and experiencing. However, it shouldn’t be perceived as a threat because of an occasional opposing opinions that can be settled by a conversation or at the ballot box. As an Black American of Transatlantic enslaved heritage what we would bringing back is bedsides our money….. is education, experiences and culture. And this should not be perceived as a threat. It’s not when they continental African and Caribbean communities come to the US. There are literally generations of recent immigrants that cling on to what their gateway ancestors where in the US and nobody telling them to stop claiming their GGG parent that came in 1900. 🤷🏽♀️ The strength your’re talking about is in the our diversity of our race and for some reason we still can’t seem to figure out how to use it. You don’t see European or Asians trying to make each other change. They build upon common respect. Look at Russia and a Ukraine those immiywhere allowed to walk right over people at the border and into homes, apartments and jobs every country they sent too. Why? Because they’ve built an ironclad institution (of racism) that will continue to keep them on top while others we are crying about the basics like food, language and culture that none of all use in our lifetime (meaning 1000’s of languages and cultures). Our US Presidents aren’t multilingual they don’t care if they understand German or French and vice-versa. They’ve made an alliance to keep the resources and wealth they stole hundreds of years ago. And when this war with Russia and the Ukraine is over they’ll rebuild forgive each other almost like it never happened.
Most people want to network but move slowly due to unfamiliar customs & the potential for becoming a victim in a new place. It's to me precautionary & it should never be one sided. No here is superior, the bubble issue is about your level of comfort & finding peaceful moments. Everything new brings about a new feel. It's sometimes the first time feeling this way. We know all too often things can change at the drop of a hat. That's being multicultural & having social awareness. This takes time........
Great points! Leap frogging will continue to happen in Africa and that’s a great opportunity for us eg mobile phones and later mobile money revolution, the very modern railway and road system and different types of real estate etc - we are getting different quality than what exists in western countries with ageing or antiquated infrastructure. Unfortunately how someone communicates is usually used to judge ones intelligence all over the world. As for diaspora returnees (born in Africa) looking down on the ones who stayed is really compared to rural urban migrants too. That said, even in the west, it’s the enforceable laws around wages, rent, relationships etc but it’s the same thing. My point is that privilege is universal unfortunately. Thanks
I'm an American African, but I've never had that mentality about integrating into the local cultures of where i want to plant myself. I've started the tedious work of learning basic Twi language. Setting up a local shop for convince for the locals and next scouting for land to build a home and farm. I'm doing that with the help of locals I trust who will have my back and help me navigate the processes.
I had a feeling this would happen. Unfortunately, the mental/colonial trauma will be imported via black-Americans. Hopefully, our native Africans will (kindly) reject such poison to infiltrate their society whereas we failed here in the West ✊🏿
@@Kevindeal1987 Of course, but it has a different stain as Africa is are homeland - the West (and neighboring territories) isn’t. Africa’s main obstacle is corruption and coups backed by non-African countries - the recent “gold mafia” money laundering in Zimbabwe for example
That 1st women at the 3:00 min mark is not a Black American. She is a Caribbean who grew up in America. In she think she can speak for Black Americans in she can’t.
This is why I keep saying you need a distinguished identity , colour black has nothing unique to it. Take Australia , they have Arboginals that looks like Afro people.
@@princessprincess7708 I agree but that’s not gone work. We have to be gatekeeper’s call them out when they try to speak on us or for us. That’s why folks are now calling themselves FBA because of people like her.
So many know people who have been robbed by African countries ad chiefs. So many have brought fae land etc. It's hard to get electricity in certain places etc. People aren't being stuck up they just don't see it for Africa at the moment with them getting extorted at the airport or in these countries. People feel like I will stay in America because they have recourse when something bad happens and I Africa especially Ghana if you lose everything they don't care!!!
Unfortunately the preservation of the " Obsession to pose like the Exception " syndrome within the African society , has been going on for at least three generations . A detriment which induces vulnerability for the collective . The majority of the freed slaves who were resettled mostly in Sierra Leone and Liberia next door in West Africa embraced living in isolation . They had an attitude of indifference to towards the locals . The same indifference white supremacists had towards them in the diaspora , they decided to get away from by all means . A divisive mindset which is the main reason Liberia ended up having a civil war between the Americo Liberian descedants and those of indigenous background . A civil war which eventually spilled into Sierra Leone that lasted for almost eleven years .In Sierra Leone those of us who reside in the diaspora are called JC (Just Came) , by home based fellow citizens when we go home to visit . Indeed some Africans who live and work abroad go to Africa , after working two or two and half jobs to buy a plane ticket and nice clothes with flossing accessories , go to Africa and act like their shit don't stink when interacting with even their own family members . I usually look at someone who is pretentious like that , just shake my head and laugh .
African American are actually good and well mannered in Africa. It’s the so call expatriates that come back and create their own sub culture in African. They come back like Gabe’s and start say UGn instead of Uganda. Or pronounce Abuja like a total foreign person. Or speak their native like a foreigner. It borderline elitism in my opinion….
The answer to the whole aspect of the matter is the lack of knowledge is the destruction of any people. Embracing the orginallity of our true spiritual connection to the MOTHERLAND is crucial and must be upheld and respectedat all cost. It is also a must that we return to our original culture, and customs it is the only way upon which the AFRAKAN AMERICANS will then be able to begin to govern themselves and bring order that will equally combine and help to restablish a bond with the original people of the soil. We has AFRAKAN AMERICANS mus also realize that we have been stripped from our original selves and that we will never be reconized as the original kings or queens of royalty who were exiled from their original land. Only a King will be able to give the people their status and this is very rarely done. That is the most hurting part about this whole matter. Their is so much more that I want to say. I will always know the truth and uphold it and always remember that there is always away to rise above our circumstances.
The African American to a degree is the evolution of what Africans could be, with the right drive and attitude,. since the African Americans are the most copied culture in the world in every aspect. However, African American culture is not superior, it is flamboyant, in the aspect in which it is seen and heard in broadcast. The African American in Africa if experienced, and professional, more traveled, will grasp the reality instantly, and they will judge others by their accomplishment, and they will conclude African has potential, it's lacking in industry, convenience, work ethic, education, and the ability to adapt the best practices to move Africa forward for all, in most cases, not every case. In the end, you find that the best of everything in most cases has been built and invested in by foreign entity. Also you as foreigner can and will be at a disadvantage because the African sees you as a person of means to be mined for their benefits. But wait there's more ... In general if you move to Africa or any foreign location, on purpose, by default you have be a person of means, or else the realities would be different. Our previous lives of convenient living is greatly diminished, so is the ease of process, and access, that typically In America are accessible to all, and in a variety of languages that give you the opportunity to pursue whatever you happiness, where as in Africa access is hidden, or guarded and only gained by pay and relationships that benefit the key barers. In the end Africa is Africa, and Americans, must lower their expectations to manage to African realities that exist, that we find high stress, but their norm.
I can see this happening because some treat Africans horribly here in the states. We have a huge west and eat African community where I live. I'm more connected to them than I am my own people. I believe it has a lot to do with past trauma and not healing. My best friend is from Ghana I'm visiting with her in May. I absolutely love Ghanaian culture food; music and the dresses are by far the best. the kindest people I know. When I get there the first thing I'm going to do to go to local shop. I'm determined to meet a new friend! I'm half white dad's side came from Ghana through slavery. They were able to trace roots. I am completing my grandfather's mission Loved this conversation.
Thank you for your comments because I for one do not feel that if I settled in another country am obligated to anyone. Because you were born into the culture you may have a different obligation. Africa is not easy and the adjustment to the culture is impossible for someone like me.
You can’t only do this in Ghana…Nigerians will shut you down and run you out of Nigeria if you misbehave..you lots know how we roll.. I guess that is why many of you choose Ghana where you can intimidate Ghanaians and they will be let you.
Bottom line you have to find your place in a new land, money isn’t the be all. I would want to become a part of the community. Teach me the simple ways of life on the continent.
After listening to this, I'm keeping my African American ass right here in America. No. We don't have to check in in Los Angeles. We are not rappers. And Africans & Caribbeans come to America and stay to their own too. Every immigrant groups comes to America and create their own immigrant community.
Why is this a long winded debate.. people are assholes and will act like an asshole if an opportunity presents itself, no matter the ethnic group. hierarchical thinking is the way of the world now 🌍
Nothing personal but the " Bald head Guy " is a keeper for Ace in the Whole to the Show overall....Not a sermon, just an Observation, Oshay , You always bring Fire 🔥 💯 %
Sadly I must agree that their behavior (air of superiority) in some instances borders on arrogance is displayed even when they go to the islands as tourists for the duration of their stay.
@@GStampedeIII you ALSO didn't watch it. A thumbnail has NOTHING to do with the content inside of the video. Look at the comments and you see how people feel.
As a kid I was fortunate to go to Kenya with my stepdad. When American people first arrive to Africa we don’t judge Africans or their culture at first. It is after you are there long enough and get scammed, lied to, played with by the government etc is when you change your attitude towards being close with the locals. Black Americans always get the blame for everything the diaspora does in countries if the person doesn’t have an accent. This is not just in other countries but also in America as well.
I'm black and we don't judge based on how European you speak I don't know why y'all get that delusion from😰 O'Shay Duke Jackson does not speak for black people he just speaks for himself LOL 😆 Us African Americans don't try and kiss nobody's booty cheeks we just do our own thing and try and stay in our own lane. Whenever we do something the whole world tries to reactant be like us, can we just live in peace 😰 The only time we even associate with others is when we trying to find a job if most of us had our way, there would be little to no association with others. Y'all just let the mainstream narrative dictate reality
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Are Asian Koreans ,Chinese, Japanese considered less intelligent when they speak English differently from black people in America . Are White Germans, French and Italians considered less intelligent when they speak English differently from black people in America . English has never been a language for any black people in the history of the planet . It is an adopted language and cannot be used as a yard stick for intelligence .
Black Jamaicans, Black Nigerians and Black British have adopted the language because of their history . Same with black Brazilians and Portuguese . Deaf People who cannot speak do not lose their intelligence either .
There is a difference between language barrier and social bias . Language barrier can be used as scape-goat to reinforce social bias and prejudice . Black people in DC suburbs for example can be biased against black people from Oakland and use how they speak to reinforce their biases and prejudice .
@@pplopde4437 When you come from a place like the US, and people are begging you for money, laid back and perk up to do the "grin and shuffle" for non-blks to get money, blk people are going to look down on them, even the non-blks. The asking people for money for nothing needs to cease. They shouldn't assume blk people from the states are all wealthy. Many that moved there with nothing have acquired way more than they would have ever had in the US. They get more "bang for the little bucks" they have. The other groups of people you mentioned are not known for doing that.
@@pplopde4437 I like this answer good one
@@pplopde4437 White Americans will treat these people like they are less intelligent because of English language level, not Black Americans, we really don't care.
That's everywhere. You are higher on the hierarchy when you leave America. For example, when people in Europe find out you are from a "good" country then they treat you better.... This happens to everyone.
I lived in Uganda for 18 years and having lived in the US for 10, I can testify that it goes both ways. A lot of Africans assume that foreigners are not that smart either.
AbSolutely!
Nah.
It’s not just African Americans who think they are superior to the locals. It’s also the Africans who have lived abroad and returned home after many years.
Absolutely
No goes both ways....
ok so we should have to have a clear ways to merge into the social structure so we can clearly understand ought nots and oughts. meaning maybe try some type of african american villages. that will serve to fully introduce african american back into african societies. not as a permanent residence but sonething to help control the flow and reduce the stress on all parties.
the same should be done for africans coming here although black americans have very little control over that process
Yes. Oshay refer to them as the people who originally are from said countries, ie, Uganda and live in the West. Then, they return to their home countries and act superior to the locals. He said that such groups have been at the forefront of superior/inferior behavior more than African Americans or British Blacks. African Americans or British Black, who are not originally from Africa or whose relations are not from those African countries, may not have the connections in said African countries
Not all so think about that. Low minded returnee some act like that. Also for their own Security Due to betrayals of some local individual its better they be mindful of themselves.
Let me say this: we're seeing the same thing on both sides of the pond. There are two stereotypes: one is that Africans who go to America view themselves as superior to African Americans. On the other side, there are rumors that some African Americans by themselves as superior to Africans.
We have to look at the class of people going to both places: middle and upper middle class. Lower classes usually aren't traveling because they can't afford it. More than being lower class, these are usually people who can relate much better to people no matter where they're at in the world.
I'll say this: when I was in Ghana most of the African Americans I spoke to denounced other African Americans who thought they were better than Ghanaians. In fact, I don't think I met any African American who thought they were better than Ghanaians. On the other side, I've always heard terrible rumors about Africans believing themselves to be superior to African Americans, but I have never met one person like that, although I'm sure they exist.
My point is this: every group has a$$holes, but it's absolutely ignorant and unintelligent to generalize the bad behaviour of a few with the many.
Love y'all much.
Dr. Taylor
Perfectly said
Exactly!!!! I've met africans in america with that mentality, thinking they're something superior because of their african blood and culture. What a trip!
Agreed, it's easy and may I say lazy, to generalise, judge people by their character.
You are lying wooofully, that idea of African come to America and feel superior is just a prove of how white washed black Americans have been, using the same tactics to brush off the accusations laid against them.
No Africans knows your not their people
Quick story: I told a few of my "black" co-workers that I was moving to Africa, even after I told them all of the positives, they still looked at me like I had 2 heads and also told me I must be out of my mind. Some people are very comfortable in their demise 🤔
hahahaha lol,
for a lot of people out there when you speak about "Africa" then you are not thinking straight.
And to Africanas, most people who speak about Africa in that way, then you are not "seeing" straight
Ya im with your coworker, move to the people that sold into white supremacy, im good
As a Ghanaian I would advise you to visit a few times first and even for extended period time past the honeymoon phase and make serious plans before moving to Africa
For some of American’s shortcomings they still have good safety nets when times get hard but not in most of Africa.
If you plan well you will do great in African but I will always advice my black American brothers and sisters to do their homework diligently and not come based on Emotions cause for example Ghana can be unforgiving.
Golden Heart
8 bus loads of Africans are on their way to the U.S. Border! Absolutely, If Africa is go great why are their people running to the U.S. and Canada "By Any Means Necessary!" Grown people are FREE to do as they will but don't attempt to pass Africa off as some safe haven with all the trapping of paradise, because that it is not. While you criticize someone else for choosing not to go. If the U.S. dollar fail, many of you are going to be SCREWED! Africa has plenty of Human and Political flaws, that are massive that you know nothing about. Many of you think they are feeling you like that! Let the cash stop flowing and you will see a change, pronto! So you may be the one comfortable in your own demise!
Good conversation… and it’s why I continue to shake my head when some Black Americans think that all of their problems will go away once they “return to the motherland” and are surrounded by other people of the same skin colour. People are still people. You will find good ones and bad ones. Ignorant ones and wise ones. No matter WHERE you live or travel to. Judge people by their character and go from there. Forget about the colourism.
this goes both ways you have some African who come to America and do the same
No. There is a difference. Africans in Africa naturally have respect for African Americans but when they go there, some are being told to avoid African Americans because they might fall into trouble because of gangsterism, end up getting shot or fall into trouble. And to the mind of Africans, they are in America to hustle, make money and all that, so they would rather avoid African Americans in order to stay focus and get out of trouble but y'all miss understand it as feeling superior. How can a broke African man from a lesser background goes to America and start feeling superior? It's far from that. We all have to work on ourselves to create unity amongst us
Zack
Thanks for the truth Zack!
I've learned STOCKHOLM syndrome is worldwide...almost a race to who can boot lick the best imo
africans who come to a former slave state in glee: are🦝
@@alexandermathews9710 Former slave state? So most of the world then. Arguably depending on how one looks at it most of the world may still be a slave state
This is a similar narrative and sounds much like that which the Americo- Liberians in Liberia were accused of. In the USA and every location in the world, the working class. or poorer people work for those of more affluence. This is a dangerous narrative that can cause divisional problems amongst people!
I'm going to have to disagree with ODJ about Black Americans not being able to differentiate between dialect and intellect. I'm a Brother from NC who moved to NYC to be a MTA Rail Traffic Controller. I dealt with a lot of New Yorkers who made that mistake. After explaining to them I was hired from NC out of all these NYers coveting and networking for this job, and where I come from you actually have to be smart and qualified to get a decent job, unlike NYC where jobs are plentiful and availability is more important than actual ability. Some took offense as I said that any idiot can get a job in NY, but they left me and country twang the hell alone afterwards.
thanks for the comment bro! I would think many may have that issue but its a good point! Even in the West coast, we thought guys from the South were not as smart as from from Cali.
That's NYC for you...
@@Kenganda Oshay you know how ignorant Americans are in general lol
You know Keith?
Country Steve don't get too swell headed. In NY their hiring practices is to hire a certain number of people from other states for civil service jobs like police, fireman, nurse, MTA Rail Traffic Controller, Bus Drivers etc. Don't you see a lot of white police officers and firefighters in crown heights and Flatbush Brooklyn. Why is that? NY hire white guys from NC, SC, PA, NJ and all over the US to police Brooklyn streets. When I use to live in NY I remember thousands of black New Yorkers would go and take the MTA railroad test and Suffolk and Nassau county sheriff's test and whenever a high percentage of black New Yorkers pass the test, they through it out and said their was some irregularities on the test to deny jobs to Black New Yorkers. You are talking a bunch of crap. You got the MTA job because NY have to hire a certain number of people from other states for those jobs. That's written in their hiring practices. You sound like you have a inferiority complex. Bro, I am a Jamaican who parents migrated to NY and I would never disrespect New Yorkers. They are some of the hardest working people and they also know how to hustle. NY has a lot of Caribbean and Southern black Americans who move their to make it what it is today. What you are saying is a bunch of nonsense. Small state mentality. Let go of it and move on with your life.
Living in Ghana I am guilty of looking for the “English” to equate to “understanding”. I have since learned, that one can speak good “English” and be a fool!!
This is a very enlighten conversation. I have learned so much from each of the host. Thanik you so much.!!!
I'm so glad I found you guys!
When I was in the Navy, my Jamaican coworker used to always say "I may talk with an accent, but I don't think with one." Just like when an American from either coast listens to someone from the South. We can easily, with bias, think they're slow. Not true at all.
Great observation.
Oshay is an American success story, not African. He is expanding his audience and income. Dude is evolving. Smart dude.
He is still an African. If you take a lion out of Africa and it lives in America fir 400 years breeding with other lions taken out if Africa... You're still left with an African lion 🦁.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Right good show, loved the story time music and the balance of the three of you energetically ❤
FBA 1st
One of the Best EP so far. I loved that Jonita’s part about the village city transitions with the locals. I also loved Oshay’s point too about the checking in part. Gaba raised good points too. I learned my lessons from UG too. But as a local that was born there and left at age 6. It was a hard transition at first coming back after 24 years. I had to learn the UG ways from the locals. Even thou I was an Ugandan by birth. I learned that there’s just certain things you’ll need to learn from the locals. Ultimately, I leaned that those from the diaspora have to collaborate with the locals. You can’t do things by yourself. Great EP. I’ll see you guys soon ❤️🫶🏾🇺🇬📲🌍 Shak LDN 🇬🇧via UG 🇺🇬👁️
Hey bro! When are you coming back?
Miss Jonita Maya Knows! 🌍🙌🏾 Looking forward to chop it up with you guys again ❤️🌍 🇺🇬📲
And the sister is at her finest in this one 😮 👌🏽 ❤
In America people from the south would move up north for a while. Then go back south to visit family and act like they were rich and better than everyone down south.
😂😂😂 it’s a universal thing
That’s what they did on the West Coast too. 😂
It is all that Europeanized mindset. Thumbing nose down to the locals.
I remember growing in Nigeria they called the British immigrants from Nigeria, "the been to's".
They may be from our neighborhoods, heck from our own extended family, but they have a certain air of arrogance for having lived in or been to the UK. So we called them, "the been to's"
"been to's" that us a good one 😂
@@sarantoure7233
Yep! Talk to any Nigerian about 50yrs or older, he/she will tell you about the "been to's". They have "been to" America or UK, they struggle to speak to you in American or British accent, people let them cut in front of the line, even within the family, you filter their water, cook their food specially, all kinds of conceited nonesense. It is that "white proximity racism".
@@sonofnok2153 it might also be the result of what the "been to" can potentially do for me if aka the love of money.
This whole Episode is so on point. it's not until you try to "fit in " that you understand,_ it's not easy for those involved.
@Kenganda, i need master gabs link, i cant find the pod cast
@@nelsonwelser116 ua-cam.com/video/yK-5oXi1pgk/v-deo.html
@@nelsonwelser116 trying to fit in is a nightmare all over the world if you are a world traveler 😂.
@@Kenganda thanks for the link just subscribed
Loved the Episode. Hopefully one day you can bring over the Afrikan Superstar!
WORDS cannot describe level of value , and the reality of inter evaluation your guest brings...
Just all flavor for any recipe !
I think the difference is Black Americans witnessed Afrikan people come to the states and do the the same exact thing and I dont believe it's out of hate people just tend to stay within their comfort zones and sometimes it's to preserve their own culture.
Its sounds like yall are making an observation about class in the Black community. Wealthy Black people or middle class Black folk will look down on anyone not doing as well as they are regardless of their connection to them. Its gross to see somethibg thst will increase in power as race issues become less prevelant
Its rare for any place not to have classism/elite mindset. It's what humans do unfortunately
I've lived and worked in East Africa initially for 9 years, with 2007-2015, and returning in 2021 until present with progresses being experienced, but comparable in my experience to living in Turkey in the early to mid 2000's, but knowing the future is going to be stellar if the progress continues., on its current path😊
So true, great information..
We need to reach the diaspora with these information before they travel back to Africa.
I agree with what she has said. We experienced that in Liberia. From my point of view, African Americans and people born outside of Africa need a lot of work on themselves to learn how to integrate rather than separate themselves. One ❤
Africans separate themselves from black Americans when they come to America too
It’s always us that need to do the work. Moving to places no where close to advanced as where we come from so we need to dumb down, shutup and assimilate instead of uplift. That’s the pan African package.
@@jadekamelion if you say Africans do separate themselves from African Americans when they go to the USA, then you are missing the point of this discussion. I am a Liberian. If you don't know Liberia, Liberia is a country in West Africa where free blacks were repacited in the 1820s and 1821 Liberia, was born. The blacks from America decided to retained the culture, lifestyle and etc they had brought from the United States and for most part did not integrate with the native society. From my point of view, this is Africa, where all blacks are from in the first place, not integrating shows your supremacy. Let's go back to where you said, Africans go to the USA and separate themselves from African Americans, I don't know in what context, but if they do, then it is on an individual level. But what is been discussed here is African Americans or people born out of Africa going back to the motherland and taking themselves superior, is very wrong in my view. Treatments that make people feel as if they are nothing. And don't get me wrong, there is a huge practice of classism in Africa but we that have experienced discrimination, racism and other form of rejection living amongst the majority whites, we should learn from our own experiences, how it made us feel when we are treated in a certain way that has been disrespectful.
@@sankofaa3000 I think this has to do with individual personality. Some people do integrate easily and some people see things very narrowly. No-one is asking you to shut up and dump yourself in the mess of the continent. Of course you need development in your life by lifting yourself but we are saying here. Don't take yourself superior over anyone or feel that you are better then people you met living their lives before you get there. Be the change you want to see in people. Of course It is bothside. Integration also shows your humanity. We don't know everything just because we came from a from abroad.
@@irina-maria2867 Do Lebanese seperate themselves in Liberia?
What a thoughtful and accurate statement about African Americans in africa
14 mins in and I can say off the rip that this was a good one 💯
As a young African American man who's never been to the continent of Africa. I just want to say this. I'm not going to Africa to save anybody. I am moving to Africa to heal physically, mentally and spiritually. I believe the people of Africa can impact me more than I will them. When I first step on those shores. I want to leave everything Westernized about myself behind and fully integrate into whatever culture I happen to be in. Either in West or East Africa. We cannot turn back the hands of time, but I want to live a true African life. The way my ancestors lived. Maybe I'm being naive, but I hope one day to train with the elder wisemen of the glorious tribes.
@Apollo Mayaimi I did a DNA Test and the vast majority of my ancestry comes from Nigeria, Sierra Leone and the Congo. What was your hidden meaning when asking this question?
stay as u r u r da culture on ur own u u hv ur own ancestors FBA period
@@zisilemoyi2246 Brother, were are you from? And what are you saying?
Just be yourself, be respectful and accept the healing.
@davidcaldwell5420 ignore this fool. He is a lost cause from the FBA which stands for Foudantional Born Americans. It is a group of African Americans that see Native African as their real enemy. Since they sold them. Which did happen but that is a very small fraction of the Atlantic Slave Trade. So he is mad that you acknowledging any link to Africa and wanting to learn from the continent. As a native born African I say welcome to your Ancestral home. Hope everything goes according to plan. He is trying to be coy but that is the gist of this exchange with you. He isn't worth your time.
I recognised this behaviour in AA's visiting jamaica back in the late 80's. One woman I recalled was so offensive, she couldn't understand why pple reacted negatively to her. I think the impression given was that we were beneath her. I am pleased to say pple are better informed today and more willing to learn.
I am focusing on the most constructive results... I am planning to visit Kenya 🇰🇪 so I can see how I can properly connect with Kenya.
Welcome 🎉
Y'all don't get mad at all the other races of people that come there and don't associate with you. I saw a Casino in Ghana that mostly Asians go to...
M Ghana one can !i've with their own group.
But without links to the established groups always expect to be a stranger.
There will always be a Liberia or Pre expulsion Uganda serving as a cautionary tale to bring wariness.
@@BonsuBigWhale it seems like Americans don't care about how you perceive them if that's the case...
Only the insecure ones amongst them would anyway.
But we have no such insecurity when it comes to them.
They are welcome but will never control anything with us.
That is better sought in one of the lesser developed Afrikan countries where folks may not know better.
@@BonsuBigWhale if they're not associating with you, controlling you is not on their agenda. China is already on their way to doing that but of course y'all are submissive to China...
@@BonsuBigWhale nothing has changed with y'all. Always got smoke for people that look like y'all vut won't sat anything to non Black's in your country that don't associate with y'all either... Ghana is not that developed when you still don't have 24 hour electricity and I heard your roads still need a lot of work... Moving to Ghana is definitely over paying for poor infrastructure
Great conversation! So many hard truths exposed. There is an innate imperfection built into people, it’s called “superiority”. It’s even more difficult to digest when a slave wants to enslave on some level, to amplify his own self-importance, because his value has been compromised in some way. Almost every subject that was touched upon boiled down to this, and competition is the mechanism that drives it. We are taught (erroneously) that competition is a good thing, but it only fuels a contentious environment. Competition was on the plantation, in school, in sports, ethnically, in the workspace, nationally in wars, etc. If you can divide them, you can conquer them (no matter who it is). Trying to get one-up on the next person is the ill of society. It was demonstrated in this podcast when Oshay said to his guest, “Let me hurry up an say something before you do all the talking and take over my show”. Or when the guest admitted he felt better than the employees his parents hired. We have to recognize this trait within ourselves (because we’re all guilty) and embrace humility. The world would have you think that humility is a dirty word, but humility unites and empowers people. If we can remove ego from the equation, and want to see the very best for our brothers too, then we are a force to be reckoned with. Thank you again for a great show.
When you speak on AA, please do not speak on the behalf of us all. Speak for yourself and yourself only. ❤
Yes let me do exactly what you asked because you pay for this podcast and finance things God I'm sorry
@@Kenganda you funny
For u to respond like that shows u are in that category....it means u do this evil deeds under the rug...in sneaky ways...😂😂😂the truth revealed ur evil side...this podcast ddnt mention ur name
I totally agree. There are 40 million plus African Americans in the world.
@@quitefrankly6815 50 million strong now
I am so sorry to hear that our American and European sisters and brothers would take the virus of supremacy to Africa. How can we bridge the gap between us and our African family if we behave in that manner? If we are to make the diaspora powerful, we must shake the habits of our oppressors. This is equally true for Africans who treat members of the diaspora indifferently. My grandmother did not go past the 3rd grade, yet she was an entrepreneur who was able to pass down property, including acres of land to my mother who, despite her higher education, would not have had, had my grandmother not left it to her. Some of the smartest and wisest people I have ever met never graduated high school, yet they know life from an unvarnished level and were able to impart wisdom to me that spared me those hardships through their knowledge. I have longstanding friendships with people whose English is their second language, but by focusing on their messages, I realize they are witty, talented, and wise, and I appreciate our friendship for that reason. What I learned in life is that grace builds bridge that arrogance can't cross.
@@apollomayaimi6816They still think of AAs as the lesser Africans they shipped to America. Now that we've come back better than we left they envy us. AAs are superior... but those of us who come to Africa aren't looking to flex or oppress but to build.
Africans come to the U.S. and do the same thing. Black Americans aren't crying I don't understand... Why can't Black Americans do the same as y'all when y'all come to the U.S.?
Sounds like you are crying
@@enosger I'm still speaking facts... I can care less I don't want to move to Africa... I have property in the U.S. and the Caribbean ❤️✌🏾
@@enosger How do the Europeans and Asians behave in Africa?
In most cases the ones that go abroad and come back are referred to as weak, lazy and stupid, the locals thinks u can’t manage the money and u gonna spend it crazily, like u gonna be paying ppl to do simple stuff for you, they might even call u muzungu or broiler
I’m from Southern Africa living in Australia. The same way AA think intelligence is measured by the way you speak English is honestly the same way we think when it comes to AA. The English we’re taught makes AA English makes them sound unintelligent. I honestly used to think that the AA who are bold enough to come on UA-cam we’re very intelligent especially the ones bold enough to talk about Africa but that’s not the case, most of them say things that are so untrue and don’t research before speaking. And also the accent and speaking fast in English isn’t intelligence either. Our level of intelligence also depends with your environment, our African elders are super intelligent because they are literally nurses, doctors, farmers, engineers and so on without formal education, if compared to AA elders they might actually be all that but with formal education. Being African is being humble, that’s why it’s important to learn from everyone, Africa is so different from the west, you need to learn how people are surviving there and adopt, learn about African medicine, eat clean food, broaden your knowledge about your culture and participate with humility. My family tries to put me on a pedestal just because I’m in the diaspora and taking care of there back home but I always remind them that they shouldn’t do that and that I am just a child because they will let you make decisions you shouldn’t be making coz you have money and it will cause resentment, hate and division in the family. It’s important to remind the people back home that you are just like them instead of looking down upon them, life is like a wheel, you don’t want to get to a point where you lose everything then go back to the people you mistreated and looked down upon for help.
This deserves thousands of like 👍🏿
@@sionrouge1697 what are you talking about?
You must be a white south african therefore keep yo azz in Australia with that bullshit.
i disagree. i think the uniqueness of african americans especially the ones who come first. is exactly what the continent needs in the right spot. dont get me wrong it needs to be alot of what you said such as humility, relearning of what it means to be african. but what was learned here should not be lost through erasure of the identity and culture. that would be dumb from someone who was attempting to sound smart
You are Zimbabwean say it.
Jonita is looking lovely today! 👏🏽 👏🏽
This brother something else! He literally just agreed with Tina from the other day regarding the privilege accorded to the American brethren/Sistren in Africa (UG). And yet, on that day, he was dead set in disagreement with Tina. Probably why Tina hasn't been seen back here yet. Come on Kenganda, don't do a smart sistah dirty, y'all need the challenge from a Tina. Yes y'all do!!! 😊😊😊
If it's like that in Africa...I may as well stay here in America and continue the fight for what my ancestors deserve.... I'm not going from 1 dysfunctional family to another 1
True
I think Americans have the same ‘centre of the world’ complex, whether white or black…..
I love this show. Gabs joanita and maintain are wonderfully entertaining! Oshay did it again
Now, I am worried they have destroyed my chances of just visiting as a normal person...
that was the very thing we from the Caribbean folks was talking about today. the constant abuse they have been going through. it going to take some time for them to get over the hurt. then to get acclimated with their new surroundings. as a Jamaican it would do you good to take off your shoes and socks and become one with the ground once you get there.
Good Topic and discussion.
Don't all immigrant groups form communities in their new homes? That's why we have Chinatowns and Little Italy's, etc. in the states. Why are diasporeans being held to a standard that no immigrant group meets anywhere in the world?
Exactly! It’s even like this in the states everybody can claim their ethnicity but when we do it everybody is in a uproar. We watch folks wave their countries flags, eat their ethnic food but when we say anything about who the original Black Americans/African-Americans of the states are then it’s this argument of well what makes them different from immigrants as if we all don’t already know.
@@foreverfly3113 I think it's different because we are supposed be going HOME to be with our brothers and sisters. To me that means trying to integrate with the Africans learning their culture and language and in turn teaching them about our history and struggles and the deviousness of our oppressors, and then finding common ground to live together. It will be a slow process but so satisfying in the end when we have an Africa with all its people at home. UNIFIED UNBEATABLE UNSTOPPABLE..
@@gingerrum4909 I understand and share most of your sentiment. However, I’m not for erasure of my ethnic and subculture either. It’s perfectly fine to be on open to learning and experiencing. However, it shouldn’t be perceived as a threat because of an occasional opposing opinions that can be settled by a conversation or at the ballot box.
As an Black American of Transatlantic enslaved heritage what we would bringing back is bedsides our money….. is education, experiences and culture. And this should not be perceived as a threat. It’s not when they continental African and Caribbean communities come to the US.
There are literally generations of recent immigrants that cling on to what their gateway ancestors where in the US and nobody telling them to stop claiming their GGG parent that came in 1900. 🤷🏽♀️
The strength your’re talking about is in the our diversity of our race and for some reason we still can’t seem to figure out how to use it. You don’t see European or Asians trying to make each other change. They build upon common respect. Look at Russia and a Ukraine those immiywhere allowed to walk right over people at the border and into homes, apartments and jobs every country they sent too. Why? Because they’ve built an ironclad institution (of racism) that will continue to keep them on top while others we are crying about the basics like food, language and culture that none of all use in our lifetime (meaning 1000’s of languages and cultures). Our US Presidents aren’t multilingual they don’t care if they understand German or French and vice-versa. They’ve made an alliance to keep the resources and wealth they stole hundreds of years ago. And when this war with Russia and the Ukraine is over they’ll rebuild forgive each other almost like it never happened.
Most people want to network but move slowly due to unfamiliar customs & the potential for becoming a victim in a new place. It's to me precautionary & it should never be one sided. No here is superior, the bubble issue is about your level of comfort & finding peaceful moments. Everything new brings about a new feel. It's sometimes the first time feeling this way. We know all too often things can change at the drop of a hat.
That's being multicultural & having social awareness. This takes time........
Great points! Leap frogging will continue to happen in Africa and that’s a great opportunity for us eg mobile phones and later mobile money revolution, the very modern railway and road system and different types of real estate etc - we are getting different quality than what exists in western countries with ageing or antiquated infrastructure. Unfortunately how someone communicates is usually used to judge ones intelligence all over the world. As for diaspora returnees (born in Africa) looking down on the ones who stayed is really compared to rural urban migrants too. That said, even in the west, it’s the enforceable laws around wages, rent, relationships etc but it’s the same thing. My point is that privilege is universal unfortunately. Thanks
Hey Joanita you're looking bussing as usual, no simping, just real talk!!!😘
I'm an American African, but I've never had that mentality about integrating into the local cultures of where i want to plant myself. I've started the tedious work of learning basic Twi language. Setting up a local shop for convince for the locals and next scouting for land to build a home and farm. I'm doing that with the help of locals I trust who will have my back and help me navigate the processes.
Great convo! Also, Joanita love the hair 😊
I had a feeling this would happen. Unfortunately, the mental/colonial trauma will be imported via black-Americans. Hopefully, our native Africans will (kindly) reject such poison to infiltrate their society whereas we failed here in the West ✊🏿
Liberia is a great example.
But africa was colonized right and still kinda is right?
@@Kevindeal1987 Of course, but it has a different stain as Africa is are homeland - the West (and neighboring territories) isn’t. Africa’s main obstacle is corruption and coups backed by non-African countries - the recent “gold mafia” money laundering in Zimbabwe for example
@@7Fields16 What about the Lebanese in Liberia?
Juice Chronicled do you feel the same way about the Arabs, Chinese, and countless Europeans in Africa?
That 1st women at the 3:00 min mark is not a Black American. She is a Caribbean who grew up in America. In she think she can speak for Black Americans in she can’t.
This is why I keep saying you need a distinguished identity , colour black has nothing unique to it.
Take Australia , they have Arboginals that looks like Afro people.
@@princessprincess7708 I agree but that’s not gone work. We have to be gatekeeper’s call them out when they try to speak on us or for us. That’s why folks are now calling themselves FBA because of people like her.
@@brotherkareem181 It worked in Australia. I give you knew identity.
Americans Afro Aborginals.
There!
@@brotherkareem181 It is going to work. You just don't want to see it. For whatever reasons.
Could you please drop his podcast link 🙏 Thank you.
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@@Kenganda Thank you.
So many know people who have been robbed by African countries ad chiefs. So many have brought fae land etc. It's hard to get electricity in certain places etc. People aren't being stuck up they just don't see it for Africa at the moment with them getting extorted at the airport or in these countries. People feel like I will stay in America because they have recourse when something bad happens and I Africa especially Ghana if you lose everything they don't care!!!
Here before the comments on Liberia.
An intelligent man is *Dr.Kambon* He has transformed himself into his true identity as an AFRICAN!
Dr. Kabom is literally in Africa teaching them about their own history
33:00 That’s a hell of an origin story 😭
She hit it right on the head. True all the way!
Africans are often judged on how they speak European languages.
That’s universal not just Africans 😂😂😂.
Not realising that we more intelligent than them.
Unfortunately the preservation of the " Obsession to pose like the Exception " syndrome within the African society , has been going on for at least three generations . A detriment which induces vulnerability for the collective . The majority of the freed slaves who were resettled mostly in Sierra Leone and Liberia next door in West Africa embraced living in isolation . They had an attitude of indifference to towards the locals . The same indifference white supremacists had towards them in the diaspora , they decided to get away from by all means . A divisive mindset which is the main reason Liberia ended up having a civil war between the Americo Liberian descedants and those of indigenous background . A civil war which eventually spilled into Sierra Leone that lasted for almost eleven years .In Sierra Leone those of us who reside in the diaspora are called JC (Just Came) , by home based fellow citizens when we go home to visit . Indeed some Africans who live and work abroad go to Africa , after working two or two and half jobs to buy a plane ticket and nice clothes with flossing accessories , go to Africa and act like their shit don't stink when interacting with even their own family members . I usually look at someone who is pretentious like that , just shake my head and laugh .
I love this Show 😀 ❤️
African American are actually good and well mannered in Africa. It’s the so call expatriates that come back and create their own sub culture in African.
They come back like Gabe’s and start say UGn instead of Uganda. Or pronounce Abuja like a total foreign person. Or speak their native like a foreigner. It borderline elitism in my opinion….
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The answer to the whole aspect of the matter is the lack of knowledge is the destruction of any people. Embracing the orginallity of our true spiritual connection to the MOTHERLAND is crucial and must be upheld and respectedat all cost. It is also a must that we return to our original culture, and customs it is the only way upon which the AFRAKAN AMERICANS will then be able to begin to govern themselves and bring order that will equally combine and help to restablish a bond with the original people of the soil. We has AFRAKAN AMERICANS mus also realize that we have been stripped from our original selves and that we will never be reconized as the original kings or queens of royalty who were exiled from their original land. Only a King will be able to give the people their status and this is very rarely done. That is the most hurting part about this whole matter. Their is so much more that I want to say. I will always know the truth and uphold it and always remember that there is always away to rise above our circumstances.
Oshay chooses to speak facts again. He never miss.
Oshay is a trailblazer and we more in fields of economics coz that's centre of gravity
Bruh, brilliant!
Speaking the truth celebrity junk. As a African , who is naturalized American. I totally agree with you 100%
I think this goes both ways. I’ve seen instances of both.
I agree with the whole panel.😮❤
The African American to a degree is the evolution of what Africans could be, with the right drive and attitude,. since the African Americans are the most copied culture in the world in every aspect. However, African American culture is not superior, it is flamboyant, in the aspect in which it is seen and heard in broadcast. The African American in Africa if experienced, and professional, more traveled, will grasp the reality instantly, and they will judge others by their accomplishment, and they will conclude African has potential, it's lacking in industry, convenience, work ethic, education, and the ability to adapt the best practices to move Africa forward for all, in most cases, not every case. In the end, you find that the best of everything in most cases has been built and invested in by foreign entity. Also you as foreigner can and will be at a disadvantage because the African sees you as a person of means to be mined for their benefits. But wait there's more ... In general if you move to Africa or any foreign location, on purpose, by default you have be a person of means, or else the realities would be different. Our previous lives of convenient living is greatly diminished, so is the ease of process, and access, that typically In America are accessible to all, and in a variety of languages that give you the opportunity to pursue whatever you happiness, where as in Africa access is hidden, or guarded and only gained by pay and relationships that benefit the key barers. In the end Africa is Africa, and Americans, must lower their expectations to manage to African realities that exist, that we find high stress, but their norm.
Oshay great Job, why don't you speak about Afro-brazilians and invite them, your channel has the capacity to educate the diaspora, leverage on that❤.
He do sometimes just not a lot
I follow the guidance of Mr. Neeley Fuller Jr.... "I'm still learning"
I can see this happening because some treat Africans horribly here in the states. We have a huge west and eat African community where I live. I'm more connected to them than I am my own people. I believe it has a lot to do with past trauma and not healing. My best friend is from Ghana I'm visiting with her in May. I absolutely love Ghanaian culture food; music and the dresses are by far the best. the kindest people I know. When I get there the first thing I'm going to do to go to local shop. I'm determined to meet a new friend! I'm half white dad's side came from Ghana through slavery. They were able to trace roots. I am completing my grandfather's mission Loved this conversation.
Thank you for your comments because I for one do not feel that if I settled in another country am obligated to anyone. Because you were born into the culture you may have a different obligation. Africa is not easy and the adjustment to the culture is impossible for someone like me.
Do foreigners have an “automatic obligation” to create value for Black Americans when they come to the US?
You can’t only do this in Ghana…Nigerians will shut you down and run you out of Nigeria if you misbehave..you lots know how we roll..
I guess that is why many of you choose Ghana where you can intimidate Ghanaians and they will be let you.
@@ngoziokafor5682 did you reply to the wrong person?
Very interesting love the episode
Bottom line you have to find your place in a new land, money isn’t the be all. I would want to become a part of the community. Teach me the simple ways of life on the continent.
After listening to this, I'm keeping my African American ass right here in America.
No. We don't have to check in in Los Angeles. We are not rappers.
And Africans & Caribbeans come to America and stay to their own too. Every immigrant groups comes to America and create their own immigrant community.
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Why is this a long winded debate.. people are assholes and will act like an asshole if an opportunity presents itself, no matter the ethnic group. hierarchical thinking is the way of the world now 🌍
Groups come to America and basically segregate themselves as well so it shouldn't be an issue. Blending into a new society takes time.
One love my global African family.
“ Cursed Be Canaan “ a servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.
This is all biblical in so many ways
Is your co host over there weaving it up lmao 😅
Some people smh, says this Nigga this Niggaa then they complain its coming from other race of people.
Nothing personal but the " Bald head Guy " is a keeper for Ace in the Whole to the Show overall....Not a sermon, just an Observation, Oshay , You always bring Fire 🔥 💯 %
Sadly I must agree that their behavior (air of superiority) in some instances borders on arrogance is displayed even when they go to the islands as tourists for the duration of their stay.
As a Black American this is food for my soul...I liked the story at 31:00
I would not even recognize that as Kanye. Sugar Bear?
They got Kanye West looking like Morgan Wallen on the thumbnail 😂😂😂😂
Not interested in the negativity.
you haven't even watched it and yet you are speaking what you do not know.
@@Kenganda like the thumbnail isn't negative. Don't throw rocks and hide your hand.
@@GStampedeIII you ALSO didn't watch it. A thumbnail has NOTHING to do with the content inside of the video. Look at the comments and you see how people feel.
@@Kenganda the comments are negative too.
As a kid I was fortunate to go to Kenya with my stepdad. When American people first arrive to Africa we don’t judge Africans or their culture at first. It is after you are there long enough and get scammed, lied to, played with by the government etc is when you change your attitude towards being close with the locals. Black Americans always get the blame for everything the diaspora does in countries if the person doesn’t have an accent. This is not just in other countries but also in America as well.
Huh??? What the fk is oshay talking about??!🤔🤔🤔
I'm black and we don't judge based on how European you speak I don't know why y'all get that delusion from😰
O'Shay Duke Jackson does not speak for black people he just speaks for himself LOL 😆
Us African Americans don't try and kiss nobody's booty cheeks we just do our own thing and try and stay in our own lane.
Whenever we do something the whole world tries to reactant be like us, can we just live in peace 😰
The only time we even associate with others is when we trying to find a job if most of us had our way, there would be little to no association with others.
Y'all just let the mainstream narrative dictate reality
Oshay Duke Jackson, May Africa bless you to the highest limit. You are blessed with intelligence. AFRICA has blessed your knowledge of understanding.
Your history is our history too
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Those same people act the same here in the US, I had to deal with them in the work place, more so the women.