Guys I got a Knee Lever Neo and its great for me. I used to game on Crown 309MJ (old one not helpme) with a tense grommet but I don't remember what color now. I am getting used to the knee one but so far I love it.
Love the video man. Just by looking at it I already which one is good and which one is not. Hopefully you would try the new Qanba Gravity Silent Joystick. Cheers!
Thanks for your comment. In my opinion Crazy dongpal is better. Ofc saying one is better than other is totaly subjective and it changes according to personal preference, playstyle.
@@ashihna2953 how long do you play tekken. im impress u can do a specific hard characters move like bryan taunt, and kazuya pewgf. how long u training using arcade stick. i suck at arcade stick then switch to pad again .
@@apisixd2260 I started playing with tekken 7 in 2017 and I has been using stick since then. I also casually played t6 with pad few times around 2014-2015 with my friends in ps3 cafe but we did not even know simple combo. Learning stick and doing hard combo are satisfying, however it does not decide/show if the player is good or not. I am still not a good player and I need to improve my fundemantals such as poking, defence-match ups, side step, etc. I personally suggest new players to learn fundemantal rather than combo or hard execution moves. Nobody told me this so I wasted many of my hours trying hard moves and combos :]
Hi bro! I'm playing Tekken 8 with Hori Alpha Tekken 8 Edition, modified the original Hori lever with a seimitsu LS-32 lever instead, a bigger actuator and a 3LB spring. ¿D you think is al right to start? May be I will chage to sanjunk V6 in the future for comparing. Thank you!
The first lever is very important because it decides how you like and play. For me i used sanwa jlf as first and I like its size and diagonals. It takes lots of efforts to switch one another. I think try as much as possible in the beginning and then decide the one which fits you best
@@ashihna2953 Ok. Thank you! May be I will try your sanwa lever in the future. ¿D you know if It will be compatible with Hori Alpha Stick Tekken 8 Edition? With a bat top Will be perfect. Thank you!
I recommend Korean joystick levers and American joystick levers for all arcade games, including fighting games, beat'em ups, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, shoot'em ups, etc..
Hi, your video is very interesting also your movement is sick i wonder how much time it took for you to master movement. my question is about the arcade stick nacon daija it comes with additional korean stick, what do you think about it?
Hi Mohamed, thanks for your comment. I started with tekken 7 and it took at least 2000+ hours according to steam and ps4 playtime. I tried the bat handle which comes with daija and it is preferably good (the size, weight and feeling are better than the bat handle that comes from razer panthera). In general, I like the ease of handling and the ergonomic of bat top while I like the quickness and responsiveness of japanese lever. Therefore, japanese lever with bat top would be good option for me and i would recommend it to ones who have just started to play with stick. However, i used to play japanese lever with ball top. Since, I need to re-learn many technicques which i can perform on ball top, i continued to play japanese lever with ball top instead of bat top. In future, maybe I would invest more time to japanese lever with bat top.
@@ashihna2953 that's a nice choice maybe i will do that too, im new with arcade sticks so this gives me a wider vision on them, i don't know where can i find sticks like fujin or sanjuk. Anyways Keep up the good work bro 👍
I think there is no tips for that. After doing lots of practice you will not do this mistake over time. I was also doing that mistake in the beginning. It still happens time to time but not as much as before.
@@ashihna2953 I think doing it slowly will help me adjust. Even when it's not the exact right timing to do it(delayed), correcting myself will do it. I just thought of this, lol.
So you liked the Knee lever but if what if you put a 35a on the Sanjuks V6 same as the Knee Lever, will the Knee lever still be your favorite over the Sanjuks V6?
Both are good but I was playing with sanwa jlf and switching from it to knee was easier for me. Sanjuk v6 has the best diagonals and good for pewgf otgf skyrocket but less accurate for qcf like bryan or sometimes do df2 instead of regular ewgf with mishimas other than kazuya
Hey there, Was it easy to install the knee lever in the Hori Stick that you have? I've got the exact same one and was wondering how difficult the modding process is.
nice video but would've been even better if you used the same character for each lever, then we could get a more accurate representation of consistency...
Hello there, Thanks for the video.... I am puzzled by one thing. Is it true that it takes some time for a new Grommet to become more fluid and better with time/use ?
To be honest I do not know and I suggest to check it with the seller. According to website below, it is suitable with obsidian, Q1 and dron(?) . They also wrote it is not compatible with drone so maybe dron means dragon i dont know. There is more information about its dimensions so better to check it via m.istmall.co.kr/us/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=1009993001
Hi, I'm a KOF player who wants to also Play Tekken. Just a few questions.. How many buttons do you need in tekken? Is Tekken Better to play with Square ⬜ or Circular Gate? Is Knee Lever Square or Circular? Thank you.
You need at least 4 button but nowadays 8 is standard. Which gate is up to you, usually they say circular is better. Knee lever and almost all korean levers are circular in principle.
In Tekken 7, you can already find many wavedash tutorial video with K-sticks. I will do such video in future, probably with the release of next tekken game.
Hey man, what tension grommet are you using for the knee lever? And also how much time did it take you to move that fast? I try to do the same thing but my hand gets tired super fast so I hope that is because of the high tension rather than my hand being weak
Hi, I did not change grommet so it is default Knee. I used to play with fujin and grommet was too stif, maybe my hands get used to it and after that Knee feels soft to me.
@@ashihna2953 thank u for ur answer ! I got another question : i just got my V6 and i love it so far (inputs are too clean) but the tension feels to light even though i changed the 30 grommet for a 35. Is it normal ?
@@arnie6605 i would say it is easier to press diagonals (less distance) with sanjuk so pewgf type of moves is easier but you can miss qcf or regular ewgf. On the other hand, Knee is well balanced in any direction and suits more my preference.
@@itspreet1102 i wrote it many times, saying which one is better depends on your preference. Maybe you will like v6 more, i can not tell but I can tell diagonals are easier to hit with v6 so you can do otgf pewgf easier (note regular ewgf becomes harder)
Unfortunately yes because devs and Tournament Orginizers dont care about fairness. They only care money and hitbox pays money to them for being sponsor. Normally, keyboard, hitbox and cross up should not be legal because they press multiple direction at the same time which makes moves way easier like macro does. E.g. slide move was something d df d but these devices turn slide into ff move. If devs want it they would make slide as ff move. Similirly kbd, wdash, ewgf, iwr, difficult moves become easier. Ability to change moves input to simpler is called Macro. It is the same logic but people do not have balls to speak this fact public. There will be always some people who want to cheat, lie to him/herself about this is fair etc. Companies know that there are people who use macro, savescum, usung autoblock etc and somehow satisfy their ego. Thus, companies like hitbox know that their product will sell even if they bend the rules, because there are many people who want to take shortcut, cheat and satisfy their ego.
@@ashihna2953 I understand the points you made but Evo 2022 has made cross up legal so despite our frustrations if a player wins a tournament on cross up then whoz to blame
@@AhsanWasim I would blame the developers as they do not care and draw the lines about what is legal and what is not. In my opinion If they allow crossup, then they should also allow macro devices. Then it would be totally unga bunga show so that these butthurt cheaters can get what they want in their deepest inner desire and they would not need to hide behind some excuses such as we press two buttons it is legal bla bla. Seriously, if macro make hard execution moves %100 easier, then crossup makes it %90. Lets give then this remaining 10 percentage to them. Then they can satisfy their ego but the game would become pointless .
@@FenixPajarito you can play with otto mod, it will not affect your game significantly. You can pick whatever you like but I recommend mishimas or bryan if you like execution.
@@ashihna2953 🤔 Well my Favorite Characters are Kim 🥋 (KOF) Juri (Street Fighter) and wanted to play Hoawarang for Tekken even though he's low tier. But I also will Try Jin but Hoawarang will be the main.
Great video. I ordered a Knee lever. Should be here in a few days. Can’t wait to train with it.
did you tested Knee lever ? what do you think ?
Is the Knee lever good?
I want to know if the lever is good too!!
Great review have you tried a knee v1 with A3 switches yet
Guys I got a Knee Lever Neo and its great for me. I used to game on Crown 309MJ (old one not helpme) with a tense grommet but I don't remember what color now. I am getting used to the knee one but so far I love it.
Just ordered the KNEE lever, THX.
i just oredered one for tekken 8, how has it treated you since you bought it?
Would love to see you try the Seimitsu lsx-NOBI bullet lever, it's suppose to be a japanese lever designed by Tekken player Nobi
Tks bro best review i think buy sjv3
Very good lever in my opinion
Love the video man. Just by looking at it I already which one is good and which one is not.
Hopefully you would try the new Qanba Gravity Silent Joystick. Cheers!
thank you for the video!
Bro keep it up that handcam content. btw, crazy dongpal or taeyoung fanta which one better ?
Thanks for your comment. In my opinion Crazy dongpal is better. Ofc saying one is better than other is totaly subjective and it changes according to personal preference, playstyle.
@@ashihna2953 how long do you play tekken. im impress u can do a specific hard characters move like bryan taunt, and kazuya pewgf. how long u training using arcade stick. i suck at arcade stick then switch to pad again .
@@apisixd2260 I started playing with tekken 7 in 2017 and I has been using stick since then. I also casually played t6 with pad few times around 2014-2015 with my friends in ps3 cafe but we did not even know simple combo. Learning stick and doing hard combo are satisfying, however it does not decide/show if the player is good or not. I am still not a good player and I need to improve my fundemantals such as poking, defence-match ups, side step, etc. I personally suggest new players to learn fundemantal rather than combo or hard execution moves. Nobody told me this so I wasted many of my hours trying hard moves and combos :]
Hi bro!
I'm playing Tekken 8 with Hori Alpha Tekken 8 Edition, modified the original Hori lever with a seimitsu LS-32 lever instead, a bigger actuator and a 3LB spring. ¿D you think is al right to start? May be I will chage to sanjunk V6 in the future for comparing. Thank you!
The first lever is very important because it decides how you like and play. For me i used sanwa jlf as first and I like its size and diagonals. It takes lots of efforts to switch one another. I think try as much as possible in the beginning and then decide the one which fits you best
@@ashihna2953
Ok. Thank you! May be I will try your sanwa lever in the future. ¿D you know if It will be compatible with Hori Alpha Stick Tekken 8 Edition? With a bat top Will be perfect. Thank you!
Best KBD was with the Sanwa JLF, especially on the P1 side. Best wave dash was with the Knee lever.
Привет, спасибо за тесты, хорошая работа и исполнение!
I recommend Korean joystick levers and American joystick levers for all arcade games, including fighting games, beat'em ups, Pac-Man, Dig Dug, shoot'em ups, etc..
Japanese ones work best in 2D fighting IMHO.
3D fighting though, nothing Beats the Korean lever
Hi, your video is very interesting also your movement is sick i wonder how much time it took for you to master movement.
my question is about the arcade stick nacon daija it comes with additional korean stick, what do you think about it?
Hi Mohamed, thanks for your comment. I started with tekken 7 and it took at least 2000+ hours according to steam and ps4 playtime. I tried the bat handle which comes with daija and it is preferably good (the size, weight and feeling are better than the bat handle that comes from razer panthera). In general, I like the ease of handling and the ergonomic of bat top while I like the quickness and responsiveness of japanese lever. Therefore, japanese lever with bat top would be good option for me and i would recommend it to ones who have just started to play with stick. However, i used to play japanese lever with ball top. Since, I need to re-learn many technicques which i can perform on ball top, i continued to play japanese lever with ball top instead of bat top. In future, maybe I would invest more time to japanese lever with bat top.
@@ashihna2953 that's a nice choice maybe i will do that too, im new with arcade sticks so this gives me a wider vision on them, i don't know where can i find sticks like fujin or sanjuk. Anyways Keep up the good work bro 👍
@@ashihna2953 When did you start playing Tekken 7?
@@Stryfe52 since its ps4 launch 2017, with s1
@@ashihna2953 Damn, that’s dedication.
your girlfriend would be proud of you
💀😂
Could you give me any tips on how not to jump forward when doing the forward input for the wavedash/EWGF on 2p side?
I think there is no tips for that. After doing lots of practice you will not do this mistake over time. I was also doing that mistake in the beginning. It still happens time to time but not as much as before.
@@ashihna2953 I think doing it slowly will help me adjust. Even when it's not the exact right timing to do it(delayed), correcting myself will do it. I just thought of this, lol.
@@alvinkim1305 Indead it is correct, just start medium speed. After your muscle memory learns it, you will speed up without mistake
Where can i find the artwork with Kazuya and Heiachi? It's awesome 😮
Sanjuk v3 , Fujin are the best
So you liked the Knee lever but if what if you put a 35a on the Sanjuks V6 same as the Knee Lever, will the Knee lever still be your favorite over the Sanjuks V6?
Both are good but I was playing with sanwa jlf and switching from it to knee was easier for me. Sanjuk v6 has the best diagonals and good for pewgf otgf skyrocket but less accurate for qcf like bryan or sometimes do df2 instead of regular ewgf with mishimas other than kazuya
great vid. have you tried the taeyougn fanta? if so whats your opinion on it?
Thanks. No, I have not tried taeyougn fanta
which Knee lever You used? the IST Rox Dragon? or The Neo?
Have you tried Silent JLF for Mishimas? If so, what are your thoughts?
No, I havent tried it yet.
Hey there,
Was it easy to install the knee lever in the Hori Stick that you have? I've got the exact same one and was wondering how difficult the modding process is.
It was very easy for the hori in my case . Sorry for the late reply
@@ashihna2953 Thanks
nice video but would've been even better if you used the same character for each lever, then we could get a more accurate representation of consistency...
Hello there, Thanks for the video.... I am puzzled by one thing. Is it true that it takes some time for a new Grommet to become more fluid and better with time/use ?
Yes, I think so
Do you hover your left hand or plant it on the stick when using the sanwa?
Hi, I hover my left hand and wrist.
@@ashihna2953 *Takes notes* Thank you!
@@ashihna2953 how about when you play on your lap?
@@alvinkim1305 i always play on lap, put left hand on stick and try to utilize wrist and fingers for sanwa
Btw, Do you play on p1 or p2?
Just to be clear, the sanjuks v6 fits into the nacon daija?
I'm deciding between the CWL 309, and the Sanjuks V6 which one would you choose? I play KOF but I want to try TEKKEN
I would choose sanjuk v6
@@ashihna2953is that include street fighter?
@@TKMichinagaI would say sanjuks v3 for street fighter
Can the Sanjuks V6 fit in the street fighter Panthera stick you got?
Also. Do you like the sanwa japan lever
Yes, I like sanwa and I got used to it a lot
@@ashihna2953 do you know the stock grommet for the V6?
@@kyquinn502 yes, it is 30 (purple).
Ok great. I gotta find some other grommets to try I can't find any of the ist website for v6
@@kyquinn502 just order one of these samducksa, they will fit. You can look here m.istmall.co.kr/us/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=1009992395
Is that the knee neo lever or the ist?
It was normal knee lever the video was 2 years ago 😅
Hey Bro, Can you please confirm if the Sanjuks V3 Lever can be used on the Qanba Dragon Arcade Stick?
To be honest I do not know and I suggest to check it with the seller. According to website below, it is suitable with obsidian, Q1 and dron(?) . They also wrote it is not compatible with drone so maybe dron means dragon i dont know. There is more information about its dimensions so better to check it via m.istmall.co.kr/us/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=1009993001
@@ashihna2953 Yeah ill have to clarify this before i purchase the lever 😅 thanks for your guidance 👍🏻
Is the Sanjuk V6 a Japanese or Korean lever?
Hi, v6 is korean lever. More information can be found in this site. m.istmall.co.kr/us/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=1009992937
Hi, I'm a KOF player who wants to also Play Tekken. Just a few questions..
How many buttons do you need in tekken?
Is Tekken Better to play with Square ⬜ or Circular Gate?
Is Knee Lever Square or Circular?
Thank you.
You need at least 4 button but nowadays 8 is standard. Which gate is up to you, usually they say circular is better. Knee lever and almost all korean levers are circular in principle.
Can you do a wavedash tutorial with V6
In Tekken 7, you can already find many wavedash tutorial video with K-sticks. I will do such video in future, probably with the release of next tekken game.
Hey man, what tension grommet are you using for the knee lever? And also how much time did it take you to move that fast? I try to do the same thing but my hand gets tired super fast so I hope that is because of the high tension rather than my hand being weak
Hi, I did not change grommet so it is default Knee. I used to play with fujin and grommet was too stif, maybe my hands get used to it and after that Knee feels soft to me.
hi, what tension are u using on the V6? thx
Hi, it is 30 tension
@@ashihna2953 thank u for ur answer ! I got another question : i just got my V6 and i love it so far (inputs are too clean) but the tension feels to light even though i changed the 30 grommet for a 35. Is it normal ?
@@remidetimmerman-ruel2640 probably it is normal. Maybe you get used to stiffness of your previous lever?
I wanna hands like yours it’s not the stick 😅
How was the knee compared to the v6?
It depends your preference. Knee lever is better for me
@@ashihna2953 what would you say the main differences were?
@@arnie6605 i would say it is easier to press diagonals (less distance) with sanjuk so pewgf type of moves is easier but you can miss qcf or regular ewgf. On the other hand, Knee is well balanced in any direction and suits more my preference.
@@ashihna2953 which one felt more comfortable for kbd?
@@arnie6605 i think Knee is more confortable for kbd and wavedash
Have u tried hayabusa lever
Yes it is okay if you get used to it but at first it felt too loose-light for me.
Sanjuk v6 or knee is better overall?
Both are good and preferences differ from person to person. For me Knee lever is better
What actuator are you using on the v6?
I am using the stock low collar v6. The bottom body is circle gate and the actuator size is 14.8 mm.
@@ashihna2953 hey man which stick is that with the Tekken 7 art and the Knee lever equipped? Thank you
@@shiki494 the stick with knee lever is "Hori RAP4 Kai Tekken 7 Edition"
@@ashihna2953 Hi there, Is it possible to get an octagonal gate for the V6 ?
Which 1 is best ?
Knee is the best in my opinion
@@ashihna2953 i wanna go for Sanjuks V6..
Is knee levee better than this ?
@@itspreet1102 i wrote it many times, saying which one is better depends on your preference. Maybe you will like v6 more, i can not tell but I can tell diagonals are easier to hit with v6 so you can do otgf pewgf easier (note regular ewgf becomes harder)
Bu hıza bilek dayanmaz
Is hitbox crossup legal
Unfortunately yes because devs and Tournament Orginizers dont care about fairness. They only care money and hitbox pays money to them for being sponsor. Normally, keyboard, hitbox and cross up should not be legal because they press multiple direction at the same time which makes moves way easier like macro does. E.g. slide move was something d df d but these devices turn slide into ff move. If devs want it they would make slide as ff move. Similirly kbd, wdash, ewgf, iwr, difficult moves become easier. Ability to change moves input to simpler is called Macro. It is the same logic but people do not have balls to speak this fact public. There will be always some people who want to cheat, lie to him/herself about this is fair etc. Companies know that there are people who use macro, savescum, usung autoblock etc and somehow satisfy their ego. Thus, companies like hitbox know that their product will sell even if they bend the rules, because there are many people who want to take shortcut, cheat and satisfy their ego.
@@ashihna2953 what about mixbox
@@AhsanWasim same as keyboard and it can access multiple direction at the same time. However, it is more fair than hitbox crossup
@@ashihna2953 I understand the points you made but Evo 2022 has made cross up legal so despite our frustrations if a player wins a tournament on cross up then whoz to blame
@@AhsanWasim I would blame the developers as they do not care and draw the lines about what is legal and what is not. In my opinion If they allow crossup, then they should also allow macro devices. Then it would be totally unga bunga show so that these butthurt cheaters can get what they want in their deepest inner desire and they would not need to hide behind some excuses such as we press two buttons it is legal bla bla. Seriously, if macro make hard execution moves %100 easier, then crossup makes it %90. Lets give then this remaining 10 percentage to them. Then they can satisfy their ego but the game would become pointless .
So which lever is your favorite and Balltop or Battop?
I used to play with sanwa jlf and my hand adjusted for balltops so my favorite is sanjukv3. If I started with battop it might be Knee lever
@@ashihna2953 I currently use otto v5 with 75g micros and circular gate, I play KOF, but want to start playing TEKKEN.
@@FenixPajarito you can play with otto mod, it will not affect your game significantly. You can pick whatever you like but I recommend mishimas or bryan if you like execution.
@@ashihna2953 🤔 Well my Favorite Characters are Kim 🥋 (KOF) Juri (Street Fighter) and wanted to play Hoawarang for Tekken even though he's low tier. But I also will Try Jin but Hoawarang will be the main.
Wth is this insane handcam? lol
I dont even get how you do p1 wavedash with a palm