Going Darkside On My Ultra
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Sorry for the repost, I had to reload this after I edited it. The first go round got me a copyright strike for the clip with the BMW 1600 and the car tire. You can see where the issue was at 4:38.
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You may notice some difference in handling with a sport bike that leans over more, but on a cruiser that doesn't lean over as far, there isn't much noticable difference at all. The cost and mileage alone is enough to keep me using Car tires. Traction is better and stopping is perfect.
Exactly. Thank you for the feedback
I've been Darkside on my '06 Yamaha Stratoliner S for 3 years now, love it. Never going back! Riken Raptor 205/50/17
On my 2nd Darksided Cycle:
Will never revert to overpriced & jokingly short lived M/C rear tire-
for a near daily commuter - I tide every decent weather day - 20,000 annually.
I'd be changing a rear tire every 4 months ! Nuts !
Plus the rear car tire is FAR stronger - no load worries, higher speed Z rated - and far less likely to flat.
I have Petlas R741 205/55r17 Z rated high performance radial.
Fit rim perfectly easy mount on my 2008 Suzuki V-Strom 650.
Chain clearance barely fits.
Theres a narrower 195 tire in a 17" that also should fit, its a winter snow & ice tire - I may try that once this one wears out.
God bless all y'all !
I think within the next 6-12 months I am going to trade in or sell my ultra. It has 102,000 miles on it now and I would like a refresh. That said I will probably have to go back to a MC tire because they will complain on a trade or outright sale.
Cool bike, good tire and a great song.
I am running dark on my Honda GL1800, my Honda PC800 and my Suzuki Burgman 650. Love them all and will never go back to a motorcycle tire in the rear.
Amen thank you for commenting!!
I have a 02 GL 1800 what tire are you running? Thanks.
@@davelynch2532 The most common size for the GL1800 is a 195/55/16. I no longer have the bike but any good all season radial should work for you. I preferred the run-flat tires for extra safety.
Beautiful dashboard on that bike.
My goldwing speedometer runs off front tire gl1500 I'm dark siding a 195/65/16 to run same rpm as MC tire. Run 28 psi 41 will wear center out on tire love it!
Good stuff thank you!
Yee Haw
You will never go Back. I love it
@@brothercowboy8395 😄😂
My older brother switched to a car tire on his Kawasaki Vulcan, 2000cc. First time I saw it he had around 5500 miles on it. Until he told me I honestly didn't notice, just drove to the parts store about 15 miles each way. He showed me how the edge of the tread had rounded over time. Said at first there was a definite "roll or bump" sensation when cornering. Over time it wears in and must be fairly smooth or I think I'd a noticed. I don't plan on dark siding my Vulcan 900 but I want to buy a Honda Goldwing and will run it dark side, possibly double dark side.
Good stuff thanks!
what would be your reasoning for double dark? Just esthetics?
@@gcragg11 honestly I've heard a few guys talking about "getting a better ride and grip" and figured I'd try it out. Just a matter of try when my rear tire, still a Motorcycle tire, has some life left. That way I can give it a try. If I like it, cool and if not no problem just switch back.
Quick addition, I forgot to mention the main reason I've heard this is worth it, supposedly a rear tire (drive tire) will outlast a front because they are designed to put the bikes torque on the road. Time will tell.
For posting have not gone dark Saturday yet but completely fed up with high prices of motorcycle tires soon as I can find someone to mount and balance I'll go dark side in a heartbeat way I figured if you haven't tried it just like sex don't knock it
Speedo should not change as most have the pickup on the front wheel. The other thing is, braking, doing a burnout, how does that compare. Perhaps find a deserted road, jump on the rear brake, let the ABS do it's thing and see how long it takes to stop. Then try it with the car tyre. I think it may surprise some people. Also how does it feel in the wet.
Was convinced to try it. Ran it for for close to 1000 miles. Heavy bike made it unstable for corners. And yes I tried changing air pressure. Also did some looking at tire construction. Side walls are much thinner on the car tire. Just not for me
And that happens. Doesn’t work on my Fatboy but works well in my ultra. Definitely not for everyone and every bike. Thanks for commenting
Thinking about putting a 195/60R16 CT on the rear of my 16 Ultra Limited. According to the TSC its almost a perfect match. I'm running the 180/65B16 original tire with 7500 miles and about 1/32nd left. The "Back of the Dragon"" likes eating my tires.....they must taste good. Anyway been putting a lot of thought into this and you helped make up my mind. I also watched your 2500 and 15K reviews. Great info. Thank you. Subscribed!!!!
Appreciate it my man thank you. Just released a video swapping tires. Check that one out too. It was posted last week.
@@YogisCycleService Been changingt my own tires quite a few years but always ready to learn something new. Will definitely check it out! Thanks brother. Ride On😎
@@stevemeade6072 I hear that. This was more a look at the tire at end of life and how it did and how far it made it. I figured if you watched the other two about it this would close that life cycle so to speak.
@@YogisCycleService Watched it Yogi. More good info. Do you think the 155/60 would be a good match for my bike or should I move on up to a 205/55 like you did? I haven't completely decided yet. Would love to know what influenced your decision as I plan on changing mine later this winter. Hopefully going to put some miles on this weekend with a beautiful weather forecast for Southwest VA! Your opinion means a lot. Thanks....Steve
@@stevemeade6072 the 2014 I have and the 2016 as you know are essentially the same bike. For me that size tire is perfect for it. This past weekend exactly 1 week after the tire change I put on 1,000 miles going to Florida and back. Tire did awesome. Didn’t feel like there was a break in period like the last tire. Hit triple digits on the highway, was on plenty of back roads and not one issue. Very happy with it so now I will see how it holds up. Still running about 41 PSI give or take a pound
If you research it back to WW2 when everything was rationed. Bikers were going
double dark. I do run dark on my 08 wing and have since 2008, but I don't think I would put a CT on the front and run double Dark.
Yea I have heard of that and saw a bunch of posts on it. I don’t think double dark is for me either. I do like it on the back though
Double dark is ct on rear and a rear mt on front. Total dark is a ct on front and rear. I have 100k+ miles running darkside and about 30k miles running total dark. It's a learning experience running a ct up front but i prefer it now.
I'm gonna do it! Thx!
Before Biden. Look at those gas prices.
Lol very true
The ignorance of how free markets work in a capitalist economy is astounding! The President has no influence over prices.
Petroleum (gasoline) prices are set in free markets. Geopolitical forces, OPEC production limits (especially) in combination with other market forces determine prices. Did you know oil company profits have been at record levels for several years? How? Companies set the prices without political influence.
Give it a rest guys. Bullshit draws flies.
So you want to tell me there was no shortage of fuel after February of 2022 which was the result of political decisions being made were the president actually had a pretty big say
@genegarrett4172 then went gas prices came down a little why was he giving a speech taking credit for it ?
@@genegarrett4172 drill and refine oil in our country its cheaper. Stop drilling and outsource oil it goes up. Print so much money it devalues our dollar worth, this causes inflation. To corporations profit is profit. Whether its 50 cents out of $2 a gallon or 50 cents out of $5 a gallon..
The government controls every other aspect of our lives. They didn't stop at fuel prices.
Good stuff
Rutted asphalt, grooved pavement and any uneven surface wanted to pull the bike off course. Actually pulled me off the road in the Black Hills. Very scary ride.
Cool story, bro.
@@countryjoe3551 Just reread my post....spell checker🙄. When bike was pulled off road I wasn't going very fast & had a good shoulder.
Man I don't understand how anyone could possibly get 20,000 + miles on a rear tire. I get consistently around 6,000 on rear
I have a 2019 FLHTK (ultra limited ) ride on average 10-15k per year I run a tire till it’s completely wore out and get anywhere between 17k -22k on my rear tire
@@silverfoxstacker1588 I get about the same mileage (13-17k) running Dunlop 402 on my 92 FLHTC. The original Dunlops in 92 only last 10k. Going to try the elites next time.
I've heard that insurance companies are aware of darksiding and that in the case of an accident that happens with a car tire on a motorcycle they will deny any claims.
I heard rumor of that but never heard of it actually happening to someone. Wives' tale? maybe
@@YogisCycleService maybe. But I wouldn't exactly put for profit insurance companies at the top of my list of things I consider trustworthy.
@@coachmarc2002as long as whatever tire your using is in compliance with DOT standards you'll win even if they deny.
I thought about getting one for my v rod. I figure if it's a 240/40-r18, I should be fine, right? 😬
There's some sticky car tires available. Just nervous and don't want it to look dumb either
Haven’t seen that before and wonder how that would be.
I have a Kawasaki 1600 Nomad with a DMC sidecar and the bike doesnt lean at all. I want to put a car tire on the bike, but no one will do it for me. I usually dont go faster than about 70 mph on this bike. I guess i will have to do this by hand.
Yes more than likely you will. Use dyna balance beads to balance it
Now go with a 160/60 on the front. It's AMAZING
Interesting thank you
What tire are you runnin back there . I’m sure you’ve said it but I can’t seem to find it . Thank you
I pull a trailer on my really long runs 4k in one trip tried the dark side it was ok but with the trailer not so good
Dark side wasn't for me
Interesting. I could tell no difference when pulling my trailer when using a CT on my GL1800 Goldwing. I was mighty glad I had a CT on the back of my bike as it was a run-flat and I sure enjoyed the peace of mind it gave me running down the interstate at 80 mph.
And if not what size tire would you dark side?
Why did you not go to a 195/60? A 60 will true up your speedo and a 195 will help with the cornering. I run a 195/60/16 on my wing and will maybe try a 185 on my next one. I have done almost 200,000 miles on a ct and will never go back to a mt.
Right on good stuff. I honestly got that size based on a conversion chart I saw on a website that is no longer active but it had a ton of cross reference sizes to stock on a bazillion different bikes. If you have been running then that long I am sure you have seen or maybe even contributed to that site. I have it saved on a drive somewhere because I pulled it from the site before they didn’t renew hosting.
I may just try that next tire. I have about 7,000 on this one now and am getting ready to do another 2,000 plus in a few weeks going up north
commander 2 is a very good tire but 23000 miles i got to question that
First commended 2 I got 21,000 miles out of it. Blew my mind also. I get 12-13k on my softail max. Not sure why so much more on a heavier bagger
@@YogisCycleService got an 05 venture why yamaha put a 15" mini bike tire on the rear makes no sense going to try this car tire thing someday and see how it goes
@@dennytuma if you try it let me know what you think. May be hard to find a good tire in 15” 🤷🏻♂️
@@YogisCycleService ok
Good luck
I wish u would have tried hard breaking to see how well it slowed down.
It performs as a normal tire. I have 10,000 miles roughly on it now and it’s fine
CT's stop shorter distance than MC tires.
I dark sided my scooter with a wheelbarrow tyre
😂🤣 nice
What you stuck a tube and a Darkside Tire anyone done that ?
I have a question about the 205 55R 16 tire that I’m about to put on my 2014 screaming eagle is there going to be an issue with the drive belt looks like it’s going to be pretty close
My question is if a Michelin last 23-25k and a car tire with a compound that is of a sport type gets around 30-32k why take the chance. Anyone running a hard rubber 50-60k mileage tire on a bike is crazy imho. I guess if one was running just interstate highways no curves maybe but still a no go for me.🤣
22 to25 i would love to see that try 15 to 17 miles not km
Can I run a 200,55,16 on a 2008 gl 1800
What was your original bike tire size before you went to Bridgestone. I have a 130/90/b16. Just need to know what car tire size I need
180/65 16
I have the same motorcycle as you what dark side front tire would I put on appreciate an answer
GOLDY SMITH I am running a Michelin Commander II. I am not going darkside on the front.
You would need to put a rear motorcycle tire on the front to be considered double Darkside. I have a 160/60/18 on the front of my victory. I absolutely love the ride
@@joshsutcliffe6099 *a rear, reverce mounted.
what size tire are you using on the back?
Put a Arroyo grand 2. 205 50 17 on my Yamaha warrior . I checked the diameter against the Bridgestone and perilli I had on previously. That gives rotations per mile. Arroyo was fewer so uses less ram. Stock was 200 50 17. Didnt want to go bigger as that could cause clearance problems. Not on sides because I've got lots of clearance but didn't want to hit fender on bumps when shocks bottom out. If I could have I'd prefer a 225 50 17 for even fewer revs. Tire weighs only about 6. Or 7 pounds more than bike tire so on a cruiser it doesn't matter. Stops better handles almost the same as bike tire and after getting used to it no big deal. Some crappy bike tires handle worse. No worse than stock Bridgestone. I run 41 psi. Cushy ride and good on corners. 3 to 4 times the contact patch so brakes much better. It always bothered me at stop signs an lights because 2 inch patch would slide even with little brake applied especially in the wet. Just make sure to use the right tire. No squared off edges or really cheap tires because the rubber is cheap and doesn't grip. I read about Arroyo grand 2 and it was rated good on wet and dry. Good handling and few complaints. Even some expensive tires aren't good in rain etc. Long mileage usually have harder rubber and less traction. Same with bike tires. Read reviews like I did and go from there. I'm satisfied with the ride and after 4000 miles and a worn out perilli I'm looking forward to many miles
How does that tire runs on uneven road, dirt jeep trails, in parking lots and gas stations? Harder to ride ?
I did a 2500 mile update that answers a lot of those questions, check it out and thank you for asking!!
Can you lean as far with a car tire then you can with a bike tire still?
I can't drag my floorboards more then I already do if thats what youre asking yes
Did tire help to lower which is what I want
Depending on profile size it will yes. The profile I did get did lower it and it did throw my speedometer off as a result. I am going to bump it up some next tire to try to get that back closer to where it should be plus I can’t get my scissor lift under it anymore and that’s a pain also. It is lowered an inch already before the tire difference.
We had to darkside my buddy's Yamaha Stratoliner in an emergency on my New England Loop ride last fall. It definitely slowed the handling and "pushed" the bike. That alone is enough reason for me never to darkside, but there are others... Good luck with your's.
Did you have a run flat tire they have a heavier side wall.
William Klump 😂😂😂😂😂
This would probably only good to ride in Florida where the roads are straight as can be. Terrible idea.
Terrible assumption.
See Yellow Wolf ride Deals Gap and get back to me:
ua-cam.com/video/37XLJNLpzxQ/v-deo.html
I'll follow you down the Sidewinder out of Kingman on my Road king... Lets see how that works out... Videos like this are dangerous and cause people to try going dark side. Yeah I did once on a VTX1800 I had back in 2003, because of a similar video I watched.
took it right back off after a week. I used a Yokhama Advan track racing tire so as to have maximum grip. Yeah it has plenty of traction but you always feel like you're coming out of a rut when turning and while going straight the ruts will move you around way more on the freeway. If you don't feel any difference then you are not one with your bike. Road feel to me is very important. Car tires belong on cars and motorcycles need motorcycle tires...
Um ok. Where is the sidewinder? This summer?
Arizona?
Any recommendations for dark side on a 96 Vmax with a sidecar? 15" rear wheel
Off top of head no but Facebook has a page devoted to darkside riding with all types of bikes and riders on it and this question would quickly get answered there
@@YogisCycleService I'll see if Marky Zucks has forgiven me and will let me on again 🤣
@@andyscreen2364 ha ha good luck!!
How do you tell what size I need
Please tell me how you narrate your videos. You do very good over the footage narration. I would like to do the same thing with my GoPro hero 7 silver. I'm not sure if it's possible I just want to make my videos better like yours. Thank you.
Dark side... yes it "works". There is no redundancy on the bead. In the corners you have to continuously countersteer so really the handling is shit. Also the number one problem is if (or when) you get into an accident and the insurance finds you were riding dark side. You are screwed. So if you want to put at risk your 40,000 + bike to save a little bit of money then go for it. Personally I will never put at risk my ride to save a small amount of money.
Wow do you ever not know what you are talking about! Nothing you said was true. Nothing. Perhaps you are just one of those that enjoys making a fool of himself. That's pretty obvious even.
Darkside is fine for these bikes since they don't lean enough for it to be dangerous.
There is a video of a Goldwing 1800 running at Deals Gap that proves you wrong.
I have a 2018 ultra....it looks like a 205 would rub....is the clearance the same on yours and mine?
I believe its the same and no I havent had any rub issues
Thank u
Got it done. Works well
@@rrkr3298ify awesome
It’s pronounced “Electraglide”
You know, I have always agreed with your videos until now. A motorcycle and a car tire are 2 different animals. Cars steer totally different from motorcycles. As I notice the chicken strips on your back tire, you may get away with it. Praying it doesn't bite you.
My man I appreciate your input I really do. Good news is I have 10,000 miles on it so far and it’s working out pretty well
Hey we have to be controversial every now and then don’t we? Lol
@@YogisCycleService some times. I really believe the most important piece of safety equipment on a bike is your tires. I may ride with a guy running a car tire but probably not next to him. :-) It's all good.
Steve Hill, do you have experience with darkside? Do you have wrenching/biking experience in general?
@@HellfighterSteve "not next to him" because you stay far behind.
Yogi this is the same video
Yeah I know, sorry. First video got taken down by UA-cam. Apparently the clip I used was "unauthorized" and despite every effort I tried to make to point the source and even a link to it so the owner could get more views he wasnt happy and I got a copyright strike as a result. Live and learn
@@YogisCycleService sorry yogi I must have seen it before they took it down.
Rodney Barcus well I am happy to see you’re catching my vids as they come. Thank you for the support!!
Harley riders have been running car tires on the rear since after the war. Nothing to see here folks.
Auto tires on a bike = death wish
Do you have experience? Can you proof ONE darkside related accident? No? Ok, have a nice day.
Do you really need one month... and more?
Sorry but recommending this is totally insane. Car tire/wheel beads is totally different from M/C tire/wheel beads, car tires sidewalls are designed thinner. The motorcycle tires have a lot more weight, stiffer sidewalls and a bead actually designed for MC wheels. It's going to corner like an old Goodyear SpeedGrip in the sharp mountain curves...which is deadly IME..Try coming down the mountain in Cherokee at 60-75 mph and see if you still like it.
.Fact: You're asking for trouble,especially if you ever experience a flat tire with that car tire. And if you have an accident, your insurance company is likely to deny your claim if they find out about the car tire on your bike. Good luck, you're going to need it.
Actually I was up that way a few weeks ago in the NC and TN mountains and it didn’t feel any different to me and for the past 12,000 miles it has seemed to work pretty good so I respectfully disagree but thank you for your post. Truth be told I was actually out running most all of my brothers with motorcycle tires both going up and down the mountain. Next time I will be sure to video that also
@@YogisCycleService But you cannot escape the fact that that car tires and wheel beads are totally different from motorcycle tire and wheel beads ..Please go to almost the very end of this video and see why it's not good .At least educate yourself on the subject. A man from Dunlop explains and shows the differences.ua-cam.com/video/5dbKoavfmqU/v-deo.html and it continues on the Part2 here. ua-cam.com/video/4EZYtAEuG04/v-deo.html. At least have a look at them to see why it's actually not a good idea, for your own safety. Just trying to help . BTW, you're not very far from where I live at all. Liberty is just a hop and a skip away. I've been on the roads you show in your video.
@@fireball1322 Another assumption mechanic. Do you have experience? If so, what kind? If the bead holds air, all is fine. Never had a bike rim/ct combimation theat failed. Did you ever took a CT off from a bike rim? Well, that is a hard job. You even can run flat and the CT will stay in place.
"At least educate yourself"... i don't need your keyboard theory, i am a daily biker/wrencher since the 70's, wondering if you can teach me something, but you can try...
@@corneilcorneil I worked for HD as a mechanic for @ 10 years at a dealership. Yes I changed tires on them too.. I still work on them at home. I have accumilated @ 100,000 miles riding on Harleys. I've changed car tires for several different tire stores for a few years long before that. I also was into muscle cars and owned a 69 Chevelle SS 396 on which I made engine mods and also fully restored. My question to you is have you ever looked at the differences between car wheel tire beads and those on H-D rims (as well as other motorcycle wheels? There is a reason why they are different..
@@fireball1322 Yes, there is a reason, but do you have darkside experience? Your family can work 4 generations for Dunlop, but that don't make somebody a daily rider with year off darkside experience. I follow every conversation and the answer is always the same: no experience, pure assumptions.
Unfortunately most insurance companies are aware of people using car tires on motorcycles and are not honoring claims.
@Jack's beautiful shirt Proof? The world is bigger than your village...
DOT certified is all they care about, and doubtful they will ever ask...
Foolish
You've convinced me Bro.
One thing I may add after driving a semi fir somewhere near 3mil miles....
STFO of the L lane ESPECIALLY when you're three digits or more in speed as when you get stopped, you and your beautiful machine will not pass go, will not collect 200.00 and with both get a free ride to jayol which will cost you a lot to rehab your collective freedom.
The only times you should be in the L lane when not mandated is helping something safely merge or when there's something in the R lane you need in your rearview or the R lane is too rough to ride or your vision is impaired by being in the R lane and all should be temporary
It's not clever to show the public it's ok to do a dangerous / illegal mod of fitting a car tyre to bike... Madness
I’d never do this on my goldwing, riding in straight line then turning for bend rider must feel the tyre balancing on the edge, scary,, proper scary.🤭
@@garyedwards8142 Funny assumption from somebody with zero knowledge or experience. Shame yourself.
Putting a car tire on your motorcycle causes serious instability with handling and is not recommended by any manufacturer or safety organization. Its just stupid!
I find it just _hilarious_ how many ignorant people there are out there who have _never in their lives_ tried darksiding yet, astonishingly, they believe somehow that they are experts on the practice. Dissing something you know _absolutely nothing_ about is not just ignorant, it's just stupid!! 🤦♂
And if not what size tire would you dark side?
I've heard that insurance companies are aware of darksiding and that in the case of an accident that happens with a car tire on a motorcycle they will deny any claims.
You heard wrong. As long as it's a DOT approved tire then it does not matter.