“There’s no helping how things have turned out. Although there’s no one to blame for this besides me since you were tiny children when I drove the idea of revenge into your heads, but I’ll now act as if I said the opposite and your causing me pain because you ignored my plea for forgiveness”. Can’t believe she said that first part as if she wasn’t to blame for all of this
Not everyone can live your venerable and sublime lifestyle. Very few are as forgiving and magnanimous as you. Unlike you apparently, everyone will end up "as dead as their" father eventually. Revenge or no. Prostate health must be a nightmare at around your 500th year!😉
I am in awe. It was a beautiful story but man, all this time I thought you were Japanese. You even show an accent when speaking English in your narrations. Well done, sir! Keep it up. If no one else, I’ll say that you make Japan proud
Thorough their unwavering devotion, they have achieved true immortality. It’s amazing that their legend lives on hundreds of years later. Thank you for sharing this amazing story in such beautiful detail!
It’s not often anymore that I stumble across a YT channel that has content that is intensely fascinating along with a length format I prefer. Amazing work.
Loved this man. Watching the new Shogun miniseries reinvigorated my love for Japanese history instilled in me by my grandfather, who recently passed away, when I was 11 years old; he presented to me a katana taken from a Japanese officer in WW2. I didn’t have the internet to provide so much info, so what I had access to was books and documentaries with much misinformation. Would you be interested in writing a history book on the history of Japan for English readers? Specifically ancient through early modern? Thanks for your amazing channel.
Really enjoyed hearing your rendition of this story! I agree with the person who commented on the visuals-they are beautiful and add so much to the video!
Very, very cool content. Loved this story, and really enjoyed the accompanying art. This is top shelf stuff: thanks for putting out this kind of quality. Will definitely check out more of this creators content.
Great video! I've been watching your videos since January or so, and it's been very captivating following since Episode 1. I think you should continue adding these legends and myths inbetween the historical videos, it's a real nice breath of fresh air.
I just found your channel from The Shogunate video, and I'm certainly glad I did. I've been a fan of Korean and Chinese history for many years and recently started learning more about Japan. This first video of yours I watched was fantastic! I look forward to going through your channel and watching all your stuff. I feel like a kid in a candy store. Subbed and the bell on!!🤜🤛 Edit- I forgot to mention the Legend style video, it was very good but looking forward to seeing your historical videos even more.
I enjoyed this Story a lot, the fact that even a shrine was created for the brother is a real cool thing ^^ I wouldn't mind hearing you tell more storys from Japans history that are not as much known to the greater world itself
こんにちはAdamさんこの動画は面白かったそれもイントロがすごかった This was great the intro was great and it’s was good to it wast interesting to learn the history of the story and I would definitely watch more videos like this i also like the pictures you used they were really great visual for the story 相変わらずすごい動画をつくっていたお疲れ様でした次の動画を楽しみしています
I think the overall lesson is that although vengeance is a terrible thing that can lead to a viscous cycle of violence and should not be the path to follow given the price is always too high. Despite this it doesn't make people who go down that path bad people. We must remember that people can be led astray when overcome with emotions and fully admiring or vilifiying those actions can prevent us from learning and reflecting on those situations and ironically make us more prone to that same folly
I'm very much interested in more legends! My highlights of this one are how the brothers kick the pillow away from their target, like that just adds insult to injury and the lord only declaring judgement once he realizes he'd have an endless string of murders on his hands otherwise.
There is a Japanese film titled "Soga Monogatari: Fuji no Yashuu" ("Tale of the Soga Brothers: The Night Attack on Fuji") that was released in 1956, but I'm not sure if it has ever made its way out of Japan. The story was also included in the most recent Taiga Drama TV series!
If anyone is reading this could they by chance link me to the exact source or some sources of the picture where he’s stabbing him and the blood is spraying everywhere
Lots of the history so far in your videos talks about buddhist temples. Haven't heard anything really about Shintoism. Now I'm beginning to wonder how Shintoism survived.
Shinto is kind of a unique thing in that it’s not really a “religion” in the traditional sense - no scriptures, no behavioral/lifestyle restrictions it’s pushing, etc. (Even the name for it, “Shinto,” is a relatively modern creation.) Combine that with the fact that it’s the native belief system and cultural foundation of the Japanese people, and you get something that doesn’t really need to struggle to continue existing. That being said, throughout most of premodern history Shinto was very closely tied to Buddhism, with many prominent temples having attached/associated Shinto shrines, so as long as Buddhism was thriving Shinto was too. It is definitely interesting that we don’t see shrines and priests being larger players on the historical stage though 🤔
@@hobokoala2623 Interesting. I really need to read up on the legend of Tametomo in more detail. I only know the very broad strokes. He's another guy for whom a ton of premodern imagery exists, so he'd potentially be very easy to make a video on.
If you check the final item in the "image sources" section of the video description, I've got a link to the Twitter profile of the guy who uploaded hq scans of the whole thing! If you go through his uploaded images they should be in there.
Two wrongs never make it right. A wasted life filled with hate and revenge. To homer the two fools is a foolish endeavor. That was the heart of a samara’s life
Yamamoto Tsunetomo wouldn't approve this shit. He'd say - "that the boys took so long to take revenge is regrettable. Also fanning the thoughts of revenge and then retracting from it indicates the mothers foolishness."
That's kind of how I was inclined to interpret it too. By the time the boys were grown up, she'd had a lot of time to come to terms with her husband's murder.
Well from what's presented here i can excuse their mother changing her mind about revenge, she originally Stoked them with it out of initial grieve from losing her husband. As time pass and she came to her senses she probably realised that this was not a very good idea for her children, of course at that point it's already too late.
In a lot of the early 20th century pre-war books that I looked at, both stories were often in there together, so it seems that they were kind of on the same footing. If anything, I wonder what has caused the 47 ronin story to maintain its popularity in the modern era (especially in the west). I'd love to look into it sometime.
Great narration and translation of a beautiful story - the last few minutes of of the video seeking a “didactic purpose” are clumsy, contrived, cheesily moralistic within a Judeo-Christian Western idiom, and ultimately a waste of time. Like seeking “morality” in the Iliad. It is a tale of heroism and valor, not a Japanese Aesop fable.
“There’s no helping how things have turned out. Although there’s no one to blame for this besides me since you were tiny children when I drove the idea of revenge into your heads, but I’ll now act as if I said the opposite and your causing me pain because you ignored my plea for forgiveness”. Can’t believe she said that first part as if she wasn’t to blame for all of this
Yeah that's pretty much exactly how I felt reading the text... I'm curious to know how the original medieval manuscript portrayed that part.
The Soga Brothers ended up just as dead as their father's murderer. Revenge is not always the answer?😢
Not everyone can live your venerable and sublime lifestyle. Very few are as forgiving and magnanimous as you. Unlike you apparently, everyone will end up "as dead as their" father eventually. Revenge or no. Prostate health must be a nightmare at around your 500th year!😉
@OasisTypeZaku death is to be embraced, not feared! It is Reality!
An observation as belated and empty as that of Reiner's mother at the end of _Attack on Titan._
I am in awe. It was a beautiful story but man, all this time I thought you were Japanese. You even show an accent when speaking English in your narrations. Well done, sir! Keep it up. If no one else, I’ll say that you make Japan proud
Thorough their unwavering devotion, they have achieved true immortality. It’s amazing that their legend lives on hundreds of years later. Thank you for sharing this amazing story in such beautiful detail!
It’s not often anymore that I stumble across a YT channel that has content that is intensely fascinating along with a length format I prefer. Amazing work.
Loved this man. Watching the new Shogun miniseries reinvigorated my love for Japanese history instilled in me by my grandfather, who recently passed away, when I was 11 years old; he presented to me a katana taken from a Japanese officer in WW2. I didn’t have the internet to provide so much info, so what I had access to was books and documentaries with much misinformation. Would you be interested in writing a history book on the history of Japan for English readers? Specifically ancient through early modern? Thanks for your amazing channel.
Really enjoyed hearing your rendition of this story! I agree with the person who commented on the visuals-they are beautiful and add so much to the video!
This was amazing, I hope your channel continues to gather momentum.
All hail the algorithm
This is one of the best stories I've ever heard. Thanks for sharing these.
I hate that this channel doesnt have 10x the subs. Such high quality stuff, I come back to rewatch things time and time again. Thank you.
Very, very cool content. Loved this story, and really enjoyed the accompanying art. This is top shelf stuff: thanks for putting out this kind of quality. Will definitely check out more of this creators content.
Thanks for the kind words! I’m honored to have your viewership!
great overview of the Soga Brothers, so now watching the kabuki play will be much easier for me!
Absolutely fascinating! I love legends and ancient stories such as these and would absolutely love to hear some more! Thank you for the great video!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! The reaction has been positive so far, so I think I will definitely do some more!
Great video! I've been watching your videos since January or so, and it's been very captivating following since Episode 1. I think you should continue adding these legends and myths inbetween the historical videos, it's a real nice breath of fresh air.
Thank you for that feedback! Making them is a nice break for me as well, so I think I'll try to keep making them occasionally.
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
I just found your channel from The Shogunate video, and I'm certainly glad I did. I've been a fan of Korean and Chinese history for many years and recently started learning more about Japan.
This first video of yours I watched was fantastic! I look forward to going through your channel and watching all your stuff. I feel like a kid in a candy store.
Subbed and the bell on!!🤜🤛
Edit- I forgot to mention the Legend style video, it was very good but looking forward to seeing your historical videos even more.
Thanks for making your way over to the channel! More historical videos are on their way!
Excellent presentation. Yes, more like this are most hoped for.
Great video! I would indeed like to see more of this type of story. I think they would be a nice complement to your chronological period videos.
That's what I was thinking as well. I'm glad you feel the same way! Thanks as always for watching!
I enjoyed this Story a lot, the fact that even a shrine was created for the brother is a real cool thing ^^
I wouldn't mind hearing you tell more storys from Japans history that are not as much known to the greater world itself
answer to your question at the end of the video: absolutely! very much enjoyed this one! well translated, well executed!
Thank you so much! I will continue to be on the lookout for more legends to make similar videos about!
Fascinating story! And your narration is PERFECT for this!!!
こんにちはAdamさんこの動画は面白かったそれもイントロがすごかった This was great the intro was great and it’s was good to it wast interesting to learn the history of the story and I would definitely watch more videos like this i also like the pictures you used they were really great visual for the story 相変わらずすごい動画をつくっていたお疲れ様でした次の動画を楽しみしています
Thank you as always for watching! 楽しんでいただけて嬉しいです！And thank you for the feedback re: more videos like this.
Fantastic story telling. I was riveted.
This is goat! Please do the Igagoe vendetta next ありがとう
Ooh I hadn't thought about that one. I will put it on the list!
I really enjoyed this video. It was very well done. You deserve far more subscribers.
this was a great story. thanks for sharing.
Great stuff as always
Thank you!
excellent content as always, would love to see more stories like this
It is a good story . Thank you .
I think the overall lesson is that although vengeance is a terrible thing that can lead to a viscous cycle of violence and should not be the path to follow given the price is always too high. Despite this it doesn't make people who go down that path bad people. We must remember that people can be led astray when overcome with emotions and fully admiring or vilifiying those actions can prevent us from learning and reflecting on those situations and ironically make us more prone to that same folly
Very, very well put 👏
Really wonderful video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm very much interested in more legends! My highlights of this one are how the brothers kick the pillow away from their target, like that just adds insult to injury and the lord only declaring judgement once he realizes he'd have an endless string of murders on his hands otherwise.
I'm hoping to get another one out this month for Halloween! (Don't be mad at me if I'm late though!😅)
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory that's good to know. I won't be mad, no worries! 😁
Great story
Marvelous retelling of this classic tale. Does anyone know if the story has ever been adapted to film?
There is a Japanese film titled "Soga Monogatari: Fuji no Yashuu" ("Tale of the Soga Brothers: The Night Attack on Fuji") that was released in 1956, but I'm not sure if it has ever made its way out of Japan. The story was also included in the most recent Taiga Drama TV series!
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory thank you! I will see if I can find these.
Wow very very good story
As far as I can understand, Japan has always been in state of war or semi-war. I am now watching video 12 of the other series. BRgds
The Kosodes are also symbolic - the autumn flower pattern represents the Mon of the Minamoto clan and the butterfly represents the Taira.
Please also a video about the 47 ronin.
Someday, without a doubt!
Is there any translation in English on the Tale of the Soga Brothers?
Can I get a link of your hip hop music at the beginning of every episode?
Enjoy!
ua-cam.com/video/6WPxNzWHVeM/v-deo.html
If anyone is reading this could they by chance link me to the exact source or some sources of the picture where he’s stabbing him and the blood is spraying everywhere
Lots of the history so far in your videos talks about buddhist temples. Haven't heard anything really about Shintoism. Now I'm beginning to wonder how Shintoism survived.
Shinto is kind of a unique thing in that it’s not really a “religion” in the traditional sense - no scriptures, no behavioral/lifestyle restrictions it’s pushing, etc. (Even the name for it, “Shinto,” is a relatively modern creation.) Combine that with the fact that it’s the native belief system and cultural foundation of the Japanese people, and you get something that doesn’t really need to struggle to continue existing. That being said, throughout most of premodern history Shinto was very closely tied to Buddhism, with many prominent temples having attached/associated Shinto shrines, so as long as Buddhism was thriving Shinto was too. It is definitely interesting that we don’t see shrines and priests being larger players on the historical stage though 🤔
Nice
How about a dive in to Minamoto no Tametomo and the plague spirit and why a screen print of their meeting is on a CDC document about small pox
Wow, really? I’ll need to look into that, that’s surprising.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory I think the short of it was the island he as exiled to missed a small pox outbreak that was getting everyone else.
@@hobokoala2623 Interesting. I really need to read up on the legend of Tametomo in more detail. I only know the very broad strokes. He's another guy for whom a ton of premodern imagery exists, so he'd potentially be very easy to make a video on.
The brothers spent their short lives doing nothing but focusing on killing somebody.
Pretty much! It's depressing from a modern viewpoint, but it sheds a clear and interesting light on the value differences between then and now.
Any link to the Kodansha Soga Brothers picture book ? I am looking for it like crazy.
If you check the final item in the "image sources" section of the video description, I've got a link to the Twitter profile of the guy who uploaded hq scans of the whole thing! If you go through his uploaded images they should be in there.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory thanks for reply! actually yesterday I check all his twitter and cannot find lol
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory Found! thanks!
@@alextorres1038 Glad you could find it!
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory Collecting books for my daughter!
Yes!
Tying ones kimono sleeves is known as tasukigake たすき掛け
Epic
Two wrongs never make it right. A wasted life filled with hate and revenge. To homer the two fools is a foolish endeavor. That was the heart of a samara’s life
I am inclined to agree
"Revenge of the Soga Brothers" sounds like a bada-- spin-off of Double Dragon.❤
Yamamoto Tsunetomo wouldn't approve this shit. He'd say - "that the boys took so long to take revenge is regrettable. Also fanning the thoughts of revenge and then retracting from it indicates the mothers foolishness."
What song are you using in the intro?
It's a beat that I made sampling an old song from the Lone Wolf and Cub movies called Tetego-bashi (ててご橋)
I think the mother's desire for revenge decreased as time went on. People do tend to lash out in grief after all.
That's kind of how I was inclined to interpret it too. By the time the boys were grown up, she'd had a lot of time to come to terms with her husband's murder.
No relation to Soga no Umako? 😅
Haruo Minami sang a song about the vengeance.
Ooh interesting, I will check that out.
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so in the strange case of these stern young men
ya couldn't say"man,your mom is ugly!"
jeez muscles
Well from what's presented here i can excuse their mother changing her mind about revenge, she originally Stoked them with it out of initial grieve from losing her husband. As time pass and she came to her senses she probably realised that this was not a very good idea for her children, of course at that point it's already too late.
Yeah that's kind of how I've chosen to interpret it too. It's a fairly natural progression when you think about it, I suppose.
Missing some crucial details in the story
The American version, of course, is Patti Monogatari: ua-cam.com/video/oyHDMKoF_zI/v-deo.html.
Yippee aye ay, Sukenari!
私は日本人でこの動画見てるけどこの話は知らなかったｗ
Maybe this story has become less known because of 47 samurai?
In a lot of the early 20th century pre-war books that I looked at, both stories were often in there together, so it seems that they were kind of on the same footing. If anything, I wonder what has caused the 47 ronin story to maintain its popularity in the modern era (especially in the west). I'd love to look into it sometime.
Great narration and translation of a beautiful story - the last few minutes of of the video seeking a “didactic purpose” are clumsy, contrived, cheesily moralistic within a Judeo-Christian Western idiom, and ultimately a waste of time. Like seeking “morality” in the Iliad. It is a tale of heroism and valor, not a Japanese Aesop fable.
A shop in Israel is selling the book "new" for $148.00 USD.
It seems to be quite a rare book indeed!
Blue eyed Samurai?!
🤗 ｐｒｏｍｏｓｍ