Aaayyy, I got all the references!! 🤣😂 See this was a missed opportunity. See if they used these concepts, working with the Variants and have them interact with both Viola and Brave Cereza, we would have gotten to know them better and explore their world a some more and understand their background rather than rely on the journals we have to find. Then for Bayos one and two (1 and 2) we could return to their world, the first realising who Brave Cereza was as you said and Viola having more interactions. An epic demon battle with each respective contract partners and the demon we have as Brave Cereza, then they end up dying. Rather than out the blue. I enjoyed the game as it was, but imagine a multiplayer with both Cereza and Viola and we get more cutscenes that should fit better. And a Jeanne riding bike as Sigurd does hacks or something for their section. Gah, so many missed opportunities that I would have been happy to wait for. 😭😭 Especially the Dorito fight being referenced. 😭😭
It explains what the heck they were doing there because there's honestly no reason for them, they just show up, be fabulously Bayonetta and then. Nothing. Nor does it explained how they fused, they could have called it Hecate's Harmony since the triple moon goddesses clearly on the develepors minds.
@@WannabeWryter also, it would be better if the whole singularity NOT knowing jack shit about the trio if cereza did the whole DO IA BAYONETTA shtick but more quietly when she was still grabbed forcing the entire life or death situation to fruition. we can hope that bayo4 takes on the direct sequel on what happened with 3.
I hate this because the concept art shows the story I desperately wanted for the Bayonetta 3 story. Re-visiting everything from the past few games, B1 and B3 having their dialogue, having flashbacks, etc. This game should've been about the relationship between Bayonetta and HERSELF. Her development, her self-empowerment, her strength. Instead, it went on and on about Bayonetta loving Luka and Fairies? Great video, by the way, thank you for sharing this with us, I love this kind of content, despite how annoying it is to see what we could've had.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Honestly that doesn’t excuse it at all. If that’s what they was doing then origins should of come out first so we know what exactly is going on. I highly doubt that would help though considering Bayo 3’s story didn’t really make sense anyway 😅
All I wanted was characters interacting How can you do a multiverse and not have the character interact at all 😭 Of all the variants, the only one that stood out was Egypetta
Seriously, it was the least multiverse multiverse game I've seen there was probably about 2 mins worth of bayos interacting and it wasn't really that interesting imo-
It’s like that with a lot of character designs they always have a really cool one that’s just like why not. And then they add dlc skins some games and never use the concept ones which agaun are sometimes better than the dlc
That's a universal truth. What you imagine, without reality throwing rivers' worth of cold water on it, is more uninhibited than what the end product is. It's that meme about how the architect's initial plans were changed to near total unrecognizability due to passing the filters of engineers, accountants, and owners' input to the project...
@@Matiasfv Fun fact, Labolas or the species/pack of Labolas are literally pet dogs that somehow wandered into the Inferno. So basicially they're just giant stray dogs that also become a giant dog version of themselves. So maybe that's why considering the only Demons that are considered "feral" are the Gamorrah race, Phantasmaraneae and Sin Gamorrah. all of the other ones are pretty tame unless crossed, The Horse from Bayo 2 (I can't rememeber the name of it) seemed to be nearly completely loyal to Bayo based on her not even using her Weaves to control it, similar to a form of Demon Slave.
the concept art looks so much cooler than the games final depictions lol i wonder why this was cut in favor of what we got. it feels like this wouldve made kamiya's statements of needing to play 1 and 2 more grounded than the plot we got
It's all conceptual, just because it was drawn means it was going to be used. The research phase rarely goes beyond that, most of the ideas you've seen in that book would probably have been discarded in the end
The thing about concept art and VG concepts in general is... more often than not they don't become part of the final product. Extra Ctedits Gaming has an entire series about the difficulties of game development and it oftentimes boil down to time and money...
Definitely wish that Brave Cereza met Rosa and older Bayo back at that fight in front of the Umbran church before it was destroyed. I most definitely wouldlve waited a little longer for these concepts. Least then the locations would be based on Bayos that we know instead of knew ones we dont. Hell some of the locations couldlve been based on Rosa's and Baldur's origins, which is why I'm hoping the tweet I sent to Kamiya about a possible prequel game based on the Clan Wars and Rosa and Baldur will be given more thought.
I know it is because of the trilogy ending but in the final dance scene during the first credit because we also see pictures of bayonetta 1 and 2 i always asume than it was all 3 bayonetta dying at the same time correct me if im wrong please
I wouldn't mind too wait an extra four years. I wonder about everyone's reaction if platinum games would use the prototype idea instead of what we got now.
I am convinced the explanation at the start of Bayo 3 made a lot of Bayonetta fans misunderstand how multiverse shenanigans work because Bayo 1/2 being "different" Bayos technically isn't a plothole when you consider that there can be two multiverse Bayonettas that are exactly the same except one is only slightly different. Multiverse doesn't imply that every Bayonetta is really unique. A difference between two multiverse Bayonettas could literally what they had for breakfast that morning.
This. Even after what she said, she never told if she was voicing Both Bayonetta's and Cereza, or just Bayo's. If yes she deserve more than what she was offered.
It is what it is, and since she basically got caught lying about the offered value and broke the NDA anyway, there's no reason to think she wouldn't have exaggerated even more, if that was the case. She basically threw the whole franchise and the people who work in it under the bus for her own selfish reasons, and honestly most of us are glad she got cut off completely
7:15 i would've loved to see Latin American witches 😭 I can just imagine how cool they would look and i feel like they would be super strong too omg 👀🤭
@@endless2239 the temple shown is inspired by aztec architecture, which is in modern Mexico, so it probably has nothing to do with South America, much less so with the Amazon 😂😂
@@diegorodrigues2685 true, I don't think I even paid much attention to the concert art tbh, normally I put these videos on the speaker and do other stuff. the temple in the left is quite telling on the Aztec/Maya influence, guess I just went with what Rakunx said in the video 😅 "Amazon and South America" yet again, the man is Australian so what does he know XD
Yeah. Bayonetta 3 probably would have won game of the yet if the team went this route. I’m pretty sure every Bayo fan wanted all 3 Bayonettas to meet even with the whole Spider-Man thing going on.
I feel like the concept art could be used in the future for like an aftermath of Bayo 3 as I think even though most things were restored, I imagine there would still be damage left or angels and demons being different after or even before bayo 3 events. Plus wouldn't want some awesome ass concept art to go to waste
omggg we were robbed of so much, all these concepts are SO COOL and I'm so curious as to how all these different ideas would've looked in the game including the better story and past locations
Please remember that just because we didn't get what the concepts implied, doesn't mean we won't get it. Kamiya wanted Butterfly to appear in full in the first game and hit technical problems. There's a possiblity of seeing a more refined version of the concept in the future
I was kind of thinking they’d utilize one of the pieces of lore from Luka’s journal in the first game. It said that the Ithavoll Group was developing technology to harness the energy of dead Witches.
I remember when back when after bayo 3 was announced. There was a rumor going around that bayonetta 3 would give you an option to play multiplayer through the story mode. That might have been an idea that originally since you see two bayonetta in the concept art for the levels and even imagery of duality in the teaser trailer
All I see are missed opportunities. Looking at the concept art, I think everyone would had preferred the three Bayonettas adventuring together to take down Singularity than what we got.
Alternate ending where the bayonetta from 1&2 say goodbye to bayo 3 before returning to their timelines. Bayo 2 : well it seems like we should be going now Bayo 1 : i guess we should go back now *the 2 bayos slowly disappear* Bayo 1 to bayo 3 : oh! Before i go i never go to say this. The time we spent together was wonderful and i am really proud of you. You truly are a bayonetta like us. Bayo1 and 2 : *disappears* Jeanne : well i guess everything is taken care of then. Lets go home... cereza Jeanne and bayo3 return home to their restored universe and viola gets to return to her mom in her restored universe. Angels attack and bayo 3 says : here we go again... LET’S DANCE BOYS!!! *credits roll*
Honestly I'm glad they didn't gave Bayonetta those long ass braids they don't look good and the shorter braids hanging on her shoulders look a lot more like little Cereza.
Bayo3 definitely feels like a salvaged project that wasn’t working. It has some open world, even multiplayer player feeling mechanics that clearly got repurposed to get it out the door. The story seems to have taken the biggest hit and I’m rather curious how it got from this concept to the final product.
I think what's most interesting to me about the Bayo2 world concept is how good it actually would have lent itself to a world ending narrative. The town that was once bright and growing, Fimbulventr -- aka also the name of the eternal winter in Norse myth that preludes the end of the world/9 realms -- being frozen over as a sign of the impending doom Singularity could have brought. aka, a multiversal ragnarok. It could have been SO good.
we need a new bayo game and this time with rakunx has the game director :0 , man this concepts are insane im guessing they left out so much cuz of time development but still they could have made so much with bayo 3, so many missed oportunities such has the one explained when brave cereza visits vigrid after so many years and everything its just dry/dead and has you progress, brave cereza starts getting this memories back when she meet bayo 1 and then in the ending when bayo one aproaches brave cereza to tell her: you have grown so much since we last meet, im proud that you become a strong witch capable of saving the multiverse and even you took your magic to levels i thought they were imposible, you have become a brave witch, ill miss you little one, take care and remember "no cockroaches or crying babies" then fades away smiling (still 100% better than the viola trash we got lol) (also sorry for my bad english)
I've already waited over a decade to personally be able to play a Bayo game. I would have easily waited a few more years to get something more like this than the very mid story we ended up getting
I do think and believe that Bayo 3 should've be held back another couple yrs more or 5 if they had all these initial good ideas. I also felt rhis way with Bayo 2 when it came out. There some parts in Bayo 2 that falls kinda flat and isn't really to in depth like Bayo 1 was.
Bayo3's development started shortly after 2 was released from what I remember, then Bayo3's story and development was changed when DMC5 was released. It seems the story structure and gameplay were far too similar, so they opted to do something different. Not to mention there was the whole MCU Spiderman thing that further took away from the impact of having Multiverse interactions. (For those that don't know the plot was leaked sometime before the film was out so it would make sense that Platinum would want to avoid similarities to other media) There's also the fact that the game needed to be made in a way for the Switch could actually run it. So, a lot of these ideas were probably too taxing on the hardware so set pieces would have needed to be scaled back or cut entirely. All and all, I still love the final game. Unlike some people that would rather spit on the devs for doing their best to actually release a finished game then show little appreciation for it because the game didn't come out exactly how they wanted it. It's really frustrating
"He was, and yet he was the strongest Dorito I've ever faced" 🤣This made me crack up lol. I would've waited 2 or 4 more years for the type of content that was supposed to be in Bayonetta 3. I wish we kind of met Balder in some other universe along with more lore on the Lumen Sages. Also that concept of what was supposed to be Thule was INSANE.
Brave Cereza in a hazy Vigrid having images of B1 Bayonetta meeting her for the first time, only for the illusions to transform into Joy angels and you fight them once more in B3
Id wait for this to be a Dlc and just mix this with what they had in mind for bayonetta 4 . Bcs omg WHY DID THEY NOT JUST GHOST US LIKE BEFORE THEY WOULD TEASE US ?!😢 bcs this is so good
Im honestly wondering if they maybe pulled a lot of bayo1 and bayo2 concept after the relationship with Hellena Taylor broke down. Especially compared to these concepts, it felt like platinum tried to segrigate bayo1 and bayo2 from Brave Cereza having them only appear at the very end. 😫😫
That's a good point, if I remember correctly the first hint at Taylor's exclusion from Bayo 3 was when she replied to someone on twitter saying we'd have to imagine the game without her.
Look, I would wait TEN more years if Bayo 3 was actually fully realized. What I feel while playing the game is that KAmiya acted like a spoiled child and didn't know what do to and how to do with the time given, knowing that even Nintendo had to come to them and say: Hey turn back to the setpieces of Bayo 1 and 2 because this open world you want will not happen on the Switch. Frankly, to me at this point, B3 feels like DMC: Devil May Cry of Bayonetta. It's like, a Game that is fun to play but a game I won't be coming back with the passing of time.
In the recent theories from Rakunx regarding the lore of Bayonetta 1 & 2 their main areas being deserted mainly (Vigrid, Fimbulventr) I would like to think they took Singularity and his challenge to the Arch Eve to these respective areas Vigrid being burned by the lava from Fortitudo, and Fimbulventr being flooded and destroyed by Aesir resulting to the wasteland vibe from the artworks. Removed content from the games would add more lore hence the reason why they’re aware of Singularity and the Homunculi’s presence thus calling him ‘Lady Killer’ barely surviving, as the two Bayonetta variants are not able to kill their challenges (meaning those bosses who contain the chaos gear) and the art of Demon Slave to devour and contain the multiversal threats reviving and reviving by forming into one again until they unite with Pure Cereza thus learning the process of Sin Summons learning to completely merge with their summons sanctified seasoning or not.
Those concepts are amazing...the jungle level looked fun. I always thought there would be another chance to go back to Vigrid at least, and go through the third door. It'd certainly have been nice to see the dynamic between the first two original Bayo's and the new one for a bit longer...or to at least see how they got to the end to save her. It's hard to twist the mind around what it could have been...it almost looks like it would have had to have been split into an extra game or DLC to explain it all.
I've read the book and Bayonetta 1 would've died to a parasitic fortitudo, so I'm now extremely glad we got 3 the way it is because if they had disrespected OG Bayonetta like that I would've dropped the series
So much crazy stuff going on, I really wanted more. Who knows if we'll get DLC about those stages, but it would be so awesome. I would have also really liked to see all the Bayonettas interacting with each other
We didn’t really kill Aesir, if he’s supposed to be like some sort of Fate / Primordial Deity, we pretty much put him in a time loop, his spirit is eternal, but he is cursed to die and reincarnate only to lose over and over again.
Okay omg- tbh the OG locations look so good- Okay this might be a unpopular opinion, but I think it is good that they gave us the Bayonettas at the end, since I think it would then taken away the attention from Brave cereza!! Also then, i have no idea, which cool plot they could give us ah the end, which would be this cool as in Bayonetta 3!! But daaim those new locations r so good, also its funny, bc I was replayin Bayo 3 yesterday and was actually thinkin, DAAAIM I want a snow land for Bayonetta 4, bc snow is just soo beautiful- I would’ve lose my shit over a snow kingdom- Also the vigrid with the dead tree and stuff is probably my fav- Idk i think it is just so fascinating, when the plants and earth is takin their land back and they covet everything in plants!! It is just so beautiful tbh💜 Also why I am really happy with the Bayonetta 3 locations, is bc it is sunthin new, if we would have revisit all those locations again, I would be kinda disappointed, bc we have already seen it- But for the future Bayonetta games, I wouldn’t mind to revisit sum locations, bc I think it would have been too early, I think if they would wait to show us the old locations again, that would be perfect💜
Awesome video Rakun Im not really fan of the whole multiverse thing and your videos help a lot on making things clear and straight. What are your expectations on Bayonetta Origins?
Thank you Feudal :,) and so sorry for my late reply! I hope my latest videos can show how I felt about Origins 🥹 btw! You may join our Rakunity Discord if you haven’t already! 😊 discord.gg/Z2btNgKhHW
Knowing that THIS could’ve been more inline with the original story just makes me more upset. I love the game itself in terms of gameplay, but the story was SUCH a let down. I definitely would’ve waited longer if this was going to be the finished product
Like imagine if we got more explanation as to whether or not Bayonetta 3 Cereza IS in fact the brave Cereza, and how her upbringing shaped her. It would explain her sudden ability to use demon slave and deadly sin. Maybe the final battle could’ve been more epic. And they could’ve done away with that Luka plot. If they wanted to introduce us to the Faeries, they could’ve saved it for something else
As much as I loved the game, it really did feel like something happened behind the scenes and many elements felt undercooked. If they're still going all in on multiverse then I hope these ideas get revisited again.
9:30 reminds me of Iridescent, the first of the Arch Homunculi Brave Bayonetta fights. I always thought it was strange how climactic and final that boss felt, and how it's the only one that has three phases: the Giant shark form, the Core form, and finally Godzilla form.
Would be interesting to see how this gets reused with Viola's "badass evolution" arc. Possibly even learning forbidden Lumen Sage techniques from Rodin
7:12 I actually thought that this place in the art was reminiscent of Teotihuacan where it is said the demon Miclantecuhtli is from with it showing in the first art piece the demon bat flying in the distance
Honestly the best thing Nintendo could've done was having multiple endings, one where brave Bayonetta dies, one where she doesn't and maybe another one or two.
This could have been a great plot for Bayo 3. If i can write the story of Bayo 3. I would want it something like this: Singularity (or Sigurd) unlocked the power of multiverse (just like the official story) but instead of making him strong like a god for no reason, i give him a power to teleports his foes to other universes to get rid of the trouble. Our main Bayo (Brave Cereza) minding her business eventually tangle in the mess that Singularity made, B3 confronted Sigurd and getting an upper hand on the fight is about to finish him off (because we knew that B3 is the most power variant of all). Desperately Sigurd teleported her to the other multiverse (which buy him some time to recover). Sigurd noticing the threat of all bayos are to his plan, he making an effort to run avoid the fight as much as possible. After B3 been teleported away, she found herself in Tokyo Bayonetta's universe. First 3 chapter stay the same, Tokyo Bayo dies (due to her being a newly witch and laxs of experiences). B3 defeated the hurmunguly, bla bla bla... and return to the first place where she fought Singularity only this time hes nowhere to be seen, B3 universe is completely destroy after he striped all the energy that he need to build his perfect universe, This is where they introduce Viola (same from before she falls from the sky). Viola been teleported here after encounted Sigurd with B0 (her mom). After some explaining Viola team up with Cereza to find Sigurd. Same with the cannon event, Viola tells B3 about Thule. The next 3 chapter is where Cereza travel around to find Sigurd, she ended up in China, only this time Chinese Bayo was not please about the invasion, Misunderstood the person behind the invasion is Brave Cereza, Chinese bayo attacked Cereza (And eventually lost, because she is weaker). After some explain, Chinese Bayo help out and later on located where Sigurd is, A fight broke out, Singularity can defeate Chinese Bay but fails to beat Cereza, using his trick once again, he teleported both of them away and fleed. This is when B1 and B2 comes in. China Bay and Cereza been teleported to B1 universe where B3 and B1 interacts with each other.
We were robbed....EVERYTHING about this looks so much better! Even the small red Viola looks better. I would've waited longer to get this. But honestly, seeing that there were production problems through the development of the game, I think the end result was sadly inevitable.
honestly, if this plot of Bayonettas working together was repurposed as the multiverse Bayonetta’s being recruited by Brave Bayonetta throughout the story, that’d be cool too
The one who makes the other 2 reason and act to a level headed manner, even though Cereza is indeed probably the most level headed one, she is still way too sadistic for her own manner
Aaayyy, I got all the references!! 🤣😂
See this was a missed opportunity. See if they used these concepts, working with the Variants and have them interact with both Viola and Brave Cereza, we would have gotten to know them better and explore their world a some more and understand their background rather than rely on the journals we have to find.
Then for Bayos one and two (1 and 2) we could return to their world, the first realising who Brave Cereza was as you said and Viola having more interactions.
An epic demon battle with each respective contract partners and the demon we have as Brave Cereza, then they end up dying. Rather than out the blue.
I enjoyed the game as it was, but imagine a multiplayer with both Cereza and Viola and we get more cutscenes that should fit better.
And a Jeanne riding bike as Sigurd does hacks or something for their section.
Gah, so many missed opportunities that I would have been happy to wait for. 😭😭 Especially the Dorito fight being referenced. 😭😭
I lowkey like this plot better. In all honesty this is what I expected in terms of the plot, all the 3 Bayos working together.
if this was how it ended, then we'd have more hype than it already has!
It explains what the heck they were doing there because there's honestly no reason for them, they just show up, be fabulously Bayonetta and then. Nothing.
Nor does it explained how they fused, they could have called it Hecate's Harmony since the triple moon goddesses clearly on the develepors minds.
@@WannabeWryter also, it would be better if the whole singularity NOT knowing jack shit about the trio if cereza did the whole DO IA BAYONETTA shtick but more quietly when she was still grabbed forcing the entire life or death situation to fruition.
we can hope that bayo4 takes on the direct sequel on what happened with 3.
I hate this because the concept art shows the story I desperately wanted for the Bayonetta 3 story. Re-visiting everything from the past few games, B1 and B3 having their dialogue, having flashbacks, etc. This game should've been about the relationship between Bayonetta and HERSELF. Her development, her self-empowerment, her strength. Instead, it went on and on about Bayonetta loving Luka and Fairies?
Great video, by the way, thank you for sharing this with us, I love this kind of content, despite how annoying it is to see what we could've had.
Exactly they better make dlc
To be honest, the faeries plotline with Luka and Viola would best be saved for Bayonetta Origins.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Honestly that doesn’t excuse it at all. If that’s what they was doing then origins should of come out first so we know what exactly is going on. I highly doubt that would help though considering Bayo 3’s story didn’t really make sense anyway 😅
@@ROT695 Never claimed it did.
i blame tencent 😬😬
All I wanted was characters interacting
How can you do a multiverse and not have the character interact at all 😭
Of all the variants, the only one that stood out was Egypetta
Seriously, it was the least multiverse multiverse game I've seen there was probably about 2 mins worth of bayos interacting and it wasn't really that interesting imo-
When your concept art is better than the actual finished product
shut up
It’s like that with a lot of character designs they always have a really cool one that’s just like why not. And then they add dlc skins some games and never use the concept ones which agaun are sometimes better than the dlc
That's a universal truth. What you imagine, without reality throwing rivers' worth of cold water on it, is more uninhibited than what the end product is. It's that meme about how the architect's initial plans were changed to near total unrecognizability due to passing the filters of engineers, accountants, and owners' input to the project...
Destiny: first time?
Any high end creative knows this happens, too many cooks and not enough time
Labolas is one of the cooler infernal summons. He grew on me after he replaced Gimorrah in Bayonetta 2
Same, I didn't miss gamorrah at all, labolas seems to be loyal to bayo.
@@Matiasfv Fun fact, Labolas or the species/pack of Labolas are literally pet dogs that somehow wandered into the Inferno. So basicially they're just giant stray dogs that also become a giant dog version of themselves. So maybe that's why considering the only Demons that are considered "feral" are the Gamorrah race, Phantasmaraneae and Sin Gamorrah. all of the other ones are pretty tame unless crossed, The Horse from Bayo 2 (I can't rememeber the name of it) seemed to be nearly completely loyal to Bayo based on her not even using her Weaves to control it, similar to a form of Demon Slave.
@@kiraphobia222 I thought Labolas was a cat?
@Wonderful Rose yeah, when you summon I next to the Umbran Tear Cats, the little guys reacts.
@@wonderfulrose477 the Labolas in Bayo 2 is a dog but the Labolas in Bayo 3 is a litter of cats fused together
Braze Cereza revisiting the timeline from Bayo 1 would have been such a good plot
Platinum really dropped the ball with Bayo 3, biggest fall from grace in a long time.
We really were robbed of such an amazing story, this is such a sinful act...
the concept art looks so much cooler than the games final depictions lol i wonder why this was cut in favor of what we got. it feels like this wouldve made kamiya's statements of needing to play 1 and 2 more grounded than the plot we got
I definitely would have waited 2-4 years for all this.
Oh come on even I can’t defend bayonetta 3 after this
same
It's all conceptual, just because it was drawn means it was going to be used. The research phase rarely goes beyond that, most of the ideas you've seen in that book would probably have been discarded in the end
The thing about concept art and VG concepts in general is... more often than not they don't become part of the final product. Extra Ctedits Gaming has an entire series about the difficulties of game development and it oftentimes boil down to time and money...
Definitely wish that Brave Cereza met Rosa and older Bayo back at that fight in front of the Umbran church before it was destroyed. I most definitely wouldlve waited a little longer for these concepts. Least then the locations would be based on Bayos that we know instead of knew ones we dont. Hell some of the locations couldlve been based on Rosa's and Baldur's origins, which is why I'm hoping the tweet I sent to Kamiya about a possible prequel game based on the Clan Wars and Rosa and Baldur will be given more thought.
I know it is because of the trilogy ending but in the final dance scene during the first credit because we also see pictures of bayonetta 1 and 2 i always asume than it was all 3 bayonetta dying at the same time correct me if im wrong please
Better hope you don't get blocked because of that.
@@thebeastfromwithin3024 Got a reply back from him before from a previous tweet so I'm hopeful
@@jaynoir8937 that's great to hear.
Whelp got my answer from the man himself" a RTS of witches + demon army vs. wise men + angel army... well, let's get Blizzard to make that one..."
I wouldn't mind too wait an extra four years. I wonder about everyone's reaction if platinum games would use the prototype idea instead of what we got now.
I would rather have been playing along with Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 then all those variants who died in 15 seconds
I am convinced the explanation at the start of Bayo 3 made a lot of Bayonetta fans misunderstand how multiverse shenanigans work because Bayo 1/2 being "different" Bayos technically isn't a plothole when you consider that there can be two multiverse Bayonettas that are exactly the same except one is only slightly different. Multiverse doesn't imply that every Bayonetta is really unique. A difference between two multiverse Bayonettas could literally what they had for breakfast that morning.
This is actually so much better than what we got
If hellena had to voice all three bayos the whole game talking to each other, she deserved a fat check
Agreed.
she needed that fat check tbh if this was how it actually came to be.
She was to be given a fat check. Her acting she deserves a fatter one is what got her in hot water. That and how she lied about it...
This. Even after what she said, she never told if she was voicing Both Bayonetta's and Cereza, or just Bayo's. If yes she deserve more than what she was offered.
It is what it is, and since she basically got caught lying about the offered value and broke the NDA anyway, there's no reason to think she wouldn't have exaggerated even more, if that was the case. She basically threw the whole franchise and the people who work in it under the bus for her own selfish reasons, and honestly most of us are glad she got cut off completely
7:15 i would've loved to see Latin American witches 😭 I can just imagine how cool they would look and i feel like they would be super strong too omg 👀🤭
would've made sense also if this is where we got Mictlantecuhtli
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@@wahwaffles OMG YES that would've been way better
@@endless2239 the temple shown is inspired by aztec architecture, which is in modern Mexico, so it probably has nothing to do with South America, much less so with the Amazon 😂😂
@@diegorodrigues2685 true, I don't think I even paid much attention to the concert art tbh, normally I put these videos on the speaker and do other stuff.
the temple in the left is quite telling on the Aztec/Maya influence, guess I just went with what Rakunx said in the video 😅 "Amazon and South America" yet again, the man is Australian so what does he know XD
Yeah. Bayonetta 3 probably would have won game of the yet if the team went this route. I’m pretty sure every Bayo fan wanted all 3 Bayonettas to meet even with the whole Spider-Man thing going on.
Dlc idea: bayonetta 1 and 2 journeys to the end of the game. This would show us what they went through before the final battle.
That's a really good looking concept, it's sad that we got trash instead.
I feel like the concept art could be used in the future for like an aftermath of Bayo 3 as I think even though most things were restored, I imagine there would still be damage left or angels and demons being different after or even before bayo 3 events. Plus wouldn't want some awesome ass concept art to go to waste
omggg we were robbed of so much, all these concepts are SO COOL and I'm so curious as to how all these different ideas would've looked in the game including the better story and past locations
Please remember that just because we didn't get what the concepts implied, doesn't mean we won't get it. Kamiya wanted Butterfly to appear in full in the first game and hit technical problems. There's a possiblity of seeing a more refined version of the concept in the future
Ngl, I feel like these concept arts might have been more fun or even better than what we got. Just my opinion Xd
I was kind of thinking they’d utilize one of the pieces of lore from Luka’s journal in the first game. It said that the Ithavoll Group was developing technology to harness the energy of dead Witches.
Ok whose fault is it that the game didn't follow this direction?!?! 😤
Nobody. Reality is an unpleasant constant in everything...
I remember when back when after bayo 3 was announced. There was a rumor going around that bayonetta 3 would give you an option to play multiplayer through the story mode. That might have been an idea that originally since you see two bayonetta in the concept art for the levels and even imagery of duality in the teaser trailer
I wish.
Man, what this game could have been; story, art direction, and combat wise.
Sometimes directors choices make little sense in a lot of mediums 😅 like I prefer brave cerezas concept hairstyle more than the one she ended up with
All I see are missed opportunities. Looking at the concept art, I think everyone would had preferred the three Bayonettas adventuring together to take down Singularity than what we got.
I hate the Bayo 3 story. What we’re they thinking?🤦♂️
We’ve been had. The game would’ve really became a legendary game.
How would she be defeated by man made weapons when her powers are supernatural being from hell???
Alternate ending where the bayonetta from 1&2 say goodbye to bayo 3 before returning to their timelines.
Bayo 2 : well it seems like we should be going now
Bayo 1 : i guess we should go back now
*the 2 bayos slowly disappear*
Bayo 1 to bayo 3 : oh! Before i go i never go to say this. The time we spent together was wonderful and i am really proud of you. You truly are a bayonetta like us.
Bayo1 and 2 : *disappears*
Jeanne : well i guess everything is taken care of then. Lets go home... cereza
Jeanne and bayo3 return home to their restored universe and viola gets to return to her mom in her restored universe.
Angels attack and bayo 3 says : here we go again... LET’S DANCE BOYS!!!
*credits roll*
Instead of an actual continuation of the story we got "WHAT IF BAYONETTA WAS FRENCH?", so lame
Honestly I'm glad they didn't gave Bayonetta those long ass braids they don't look good and the shorter braids hanging on her shoulders look a lot more like little Cereza.
Bayo3 definitely feels like a salvaged project that wasn’t working. It has some open world, even multiplayer player feeling mechanics that clearly got repurposed to get it out the door. The story seems to have taken the biggest hit and I’m rather curious how it got from this concept to the final product.
Yeah. From all the reviews I've watched and heard the story, it feels disjointed like not a Bayonetta story at all.
I'm not even 2 minutes in and I'm already pissed off that this was thrown out in favour of the plot we got.
I really really think that Bayonetta 3 NEEDS a remodel, with both the visuals and the entire story, in fact almost everything needs to be redone
I would soooo wait 3-4 even 5 years to play something this extensive and detailed
The bird golem, the humonculi "gatekeeper" and the 8:46 humonculi look so cool
I think what's most interesting to me about the Bayo2 world concept is how good it actually would have lent itself to a world ending narrative. The town that was once bright and growing, Fimbulventr -- aka also the name of the eternal winter in Norse myth that preludes the end of the world/9 realms -- being frozen over as a sign of the impending doom Singularity could have brought. aka, a multiversal ragnarok. It could have been SO good.
Bayonetta got the concept much better but couldnt made it to the final product.
Welcome to sega sister
I mean the scene where she is saved by Bayonetta 1, already confirms she is Brave Cereza. It’s too damn obvious.
Of course I would've been waiting for years to see this outstanding concept...
we need a new bayo game and this time with rakunx has the game director :0 , man this concepts are insane im guessing they left out so much cuz of time development but still they could have made so much with bayo 3, so many missed oportunities such has the one explained when brave cereza visits vigrid after so many years and everything its just dry/dead and has you progress, brave cereza starts getting this memories back when she meet bayo 1 and then in the ending when bayo one aproaches brave cereza to tell her: you have grown so much since we last meet, im proud that you become a strong witch capable of saving the multiverse and even you took your magic to levels i thought they were imposible, you have become a brave witch, ill miss you little one, take care and remember "no cockroaches or crying babies" then fades away smiling (still 100% better than the viola trash we got lol) (also sorry for my bad english)
I've already waited over a decade to personally be able to play a Bayo game. I would have easily waited a few more years to get something more like this than the very mid story we ended up getting
I do think and believe that Bayo 3 should've be held back another couple yrs more or 5 if they had all these initial good ideas. I also felt rhis way with Bayo 2 when it came out. There some parts in Bayo 2 that falls kinda flat and isn't really to in depth like Bayo 1 was.
Bayo3's development started shortly after 2 was released from what I remember, then Bayo3's story and development was changed when DMC5 was released. It seems the story structure and gameplay were far too similar, so they opted to do something different. Not to mention there was the whole MCU Spiderman thing that further took away from the impact of having Multiverse interactions. (For those that don't know the plot was leaked sometime before the film was out so it would make sense that Platinum would want to avoid similarities to other media) There's also the fact that the game needed to be made in a way for the Switch could actually run it. So, a lot of these ideas were probably too taxing on the hardware so set pieces would have needed to be scaled back or cut entirely.
All and all, I still love the final game. Unlike some people that would rather spit on the devs for doing their best to actually release a finished game then show little appreciation for it because the game didn't come out exactly how they wanted it. It's really frustrating
"He was, and yet he was the strongest Dorito I've ever faced" 🤣This made me crack up lol. I would've waited 2 or 4 more years for the type of content that was supposed to be in Bayonetta 3. I wish we kind of met Balder in some other universe along with more lore on the Lumen Sages. Also that concept of what was supposed to be Thule was INSANE.
If you pay attention to the order of the weapons, you'll notice that the cruel altea is after simoon even though it's one of the last weapons you get
Oh my ! I would have loved to see more of Bayonetta 1 and 2 in the first game. I wonder if record of time of B2 was supposed to be a Bayo 3 cutscene
Brave Cereza in a hazy Vigrid having images of B1 Bayonetta meeting her for the first time, only for the illusions to transform into Joy angels and you fight them once more in B3
Why do i feel like we just got robbed out of this masterpiece...😔 This look sooo freaking good
Can we get alternatif DLC with all of this in it?😩😩
Id wait for this to be a Dlc and just mix this with what they had in mind for bayonetta 4 . Bcs omg WHY DID THEY NOT JUST GHOST US LIKE BEFORE THEY WOULD TEASE US ?!😢 bcs this is so good
Im honestly wondering if they maybe pulled a lot of bayo1 and bayo2 concept after the relationship with Hellena Taylor broke down. Especially compared to these concepts, it felt like platinum tried to segrigate bayo1 and bayo2 from Brave Cereza having them only appear at the very end. 😫😫
That's a good point, if I remember correctly the first hint at Taylor's exclusion from Bayo 3 was when she replied to someone on twitter saying we'd have to imagine the game without her.
Nah I think we all need one thing: for Rakunx to become a storywriter for Bayonetta
When I thought I couldn’t be more disappointed 😢
They should remake the fame, cause this was sich a cool premise, the designs and everything 😭
Im still happy with the Bayo 3 we got, but DAMN
Look, I would wait TEN more years if Bayo 3 was actually fully realized.
What I feel while playing the game is that KAmiya acted like a spoiled child and didn't know what do to and how to do with the time given, knowing that even Nintendo had to come to them and say: Hey turn back to the setpieces of Bayo 1 and 2 because this open world you want will not happen on the Switch.
Frankly, to me at this point, B3 feels like DMC: Devil May Cry of Bayonetta. It's like, a Game that is fun to play but a game I won't be coming back with the passing of time.
We were fucking robbed. This living cathedral thing is just awesome
I would have absolutely waited 2-4 years! ❤️
These ideas must come back as dlc
In the recent theories from Rakunx regarding the lore of Bayonetta 1 & 2 their main areas being deserted mainly (Vigrid, Fimbulventr) I would like to think they took Singularity and his challenge to the Arch Eve to these respective areas Vigrid being burned by the lava from Fortitudo, and Fimbulventr being flooded and destroyed by Aesir resulting to the wasteland vibe from the artworks.
Removed content from the games would add more lore hence the reason why they’re aware of Singularity and the Homunculi’s presence thus calling him ‘Lady Killer’ barely surviving, as the two Bayonetta variants are not able to kill their challenges (meaning those bosses who contain the chaos gear) and the art of Demon Slave to devour and contain the multiversal threats reviving and reviving by forming into one again until they unite with Pure Cereza thus learning the process of Sin Summons learning to completely merge with their summons sanctified seasoning or not.
They should use this for Bayonetta 4 (5 if you count the spinoff they recently released).
Those concepts are amazing...the jungle level looked fun. I always thought there would be another chance to go back to Vigrid at least, and go through the third door. It'd certainly have been nice to see the dynamic between the first two original Bayo's and the new one for a bit longer...or to at least see how they got to the end to save her. It's hard to twist the mind around what it could have been...it almost looks like it would have had to have been split into an extra game or DLC to explain it all.
I've read the book and Bayonetta 1 would've died to a parasitic fortitudo, so I'm now extremely glad we got 3 the way it is because if they had disrespected OG Bayonetta like that I would've dropped the series
So much crazy stuff going on, I really wanted more. Who knows if we'll get DLC about those stages, but it would be so awesome. I would have also really liked to see all the Bayonettas interacting with each other
Dude just imagine we got all of this video in the game
We didn’t really kill Aesir, if he’s supposed to be like some sort of Fate / Primordial Deity, we pretty much put him in a time loop, his spirit is eternal, but he is cursed to die and reincarnate only to lose over and over again.
Okay omg- tbh the OG locations look so good-
Okay this might be a unpopular opinion, but I think it is good that they gave us the Bayonettas at the end, since I think it would then taken away the attention from Brave cereza!! Also then, i have no idea, which cool plot they could give us ah the end, which would be this cool as in Bayonetta 3!!
But daaim those new locations r so good, also its funny, bc I was replayin Bayo 3 yesterday and was actually thinkin, DAAAIM I want a snow land for Bayonetta 4, bc snow is just soo beautiful-
I would’ve lose my shit over a snow kingdom-
Also the vigrid with the dead tree and stuff is probably my fav-
Idk i think it is just so fascinating, when the plants and earth is takin their land back and they covet everything in plants!!
It is just so beautiful tbh💜
Also why I am really happy with the Bayonetta 3 locations, is bc it is sunthin new, if we would have revisit all those locations again, I would be kinda disappointed, bc we have already seen it-
But for the future Bayonetta games, I wouldn’t mind to revisit sum locations, bc I think it would have been too early, I think if they would wait to show us the old locations again, that would be perfect💜
Welp Kamiya already told us that if we didn't like the ending for bayo 3, don't play bayo 4
This hurts my heart! I appreciate Bayo3 but I would've much rathe have had this than what we got.
Just to fuck with us, they should release this as a full game but call it bayonetta 3: alternative
Awesome video Rakun Im not really fan of the whole multiverse thing and your videos help a lot on making things clear and straight. What are your expectations on Bayonetta Origins?
Thank you Feudal :,) and so sorry for my late reply! I hope my latest videos can show how I felt about Origins 🥹 btw! You may join our Rakunity Discord if you haven’t already! 😊 discord.gg/Z2btNgKhHW
@@Rakunx Sorry for late respond but no need to apologize I can understand you can be busy with Bayonetta theories
Knowing that THIS could’ve been more inline with the original story just makes me more upset. I love the game itself in terms of gameplay, but the story was SUCH a let down. I definitely would’ve waited longer if this was going to be the finished product
Like imagine if we got more explanation as to whether or not Bayonetta 3 Cereza IS in fact the brave Cereza, and how her upbringing shaped her. It would explain her sudden ability to use demon slave and deadly sin. Maybe the final battle could’ve been more epic. And they could’ve done away with that Luka plot. If they wanted to introduce us to the Faeries, they could’ve saved it for something else
Someone sent this to Superbutterbuns she need to know.
As much as I loved the game, it really did feel like something happened behind the scenes and many elements felt undercooked. If they're still going all in on multiverse then I hope these ideas get revisited again.
9:30 reminds me of Iridescent, the first of the Arch Homunculi Brave Bayonetta fights. I always thought it was strange how climactic and final that boss felt, and how it's the only one that has three phases: the Giant shark form, the Core form, and finally Godzilla form.
These concept arts look like that game horizon zero dawn
Would be interesting to see how this gets reused with Viola's "badass evolution" arc. Possibly even learning forbidden Lumen Sage techniques from Rodin
7:12 I actually thought that this place in the art was reminiscent of Teotihuacan where it is said the demon Miclantecuhtli is from with it showing in the first art piece the demon bat flying in the distance
curious, would we get another demon pact? the winged serpent perharps?
*6:25** The more I wanna tear a new one in the Bayonetta 3's development team.*
Their is a thing about bayonetta the concept is always better and you ask yourself: WHY did they abandon that!!!
I do like how Bayonetta 3 ended up, however this would have been so much cooler 😭
Honestly the best thing Nintendo could've done was having multiple endings, one where brave Bayonetta dies, one where she doesn't and maybe another one or two.
This could have been a great plot for Bayo 3. If i can write the story of Bayo 3. I would want it something like this: Singularity (or Sigurd) unlocked the power of multiverse (just like the official story) but instead of making him strong like a god for no reason, i give him a power to teleports his foes to other universes to get rid of the trouble. Our main Bayo (Brave Cereza) minding her business eventually tangle in the mess that Singularity made, B3 confronted Sigurd and getting an upper hand on the fight is about to finish him off (because we knew that B3 is the most power variant of all). Desperately Sigurd teleported her to the other multiverse (which buy him some time to recover). Sigurd noticing the threat of all bayos are to his plan, he making an effort to run avoid the fight as much as possible.
After B3 been teleported away, she found herself in Tokyo Bayonetta's universe. First 3 chapter stay the same, Tokyo Bayo dies (due to her being a newly witch and laxs of experiences). B3 defeated the hurmunguly, bla bla bla... and return to the first place where she fought Singularity only this time hes nowhere to be seen, B3 universe is completely destroy after he striped all the energy that he need to build his perfect universe, This is where they introduce Viola (same from before she falls from the sky). Viola been teleported here after encounted Sigurd with B0 (her mom). After some explaining Viola team up with Cereza to find Sigurd. Same with the cannon event, Viola tells B3 about Thule. The next 3 chapter is where Cereza travel around to find Sigurd, she ended up in China, only this time Chinese Bayo was not please about the invasion, Misunderstood the person behind the invasion is Brave Cereza, Chinese bayo attacked Cereza (And eventually lost, because she is weaker). After some explain, Chinese Bayo help out and later on located where Sigurd is, A fight broke out, Singularity can defeate Chinese Bay but fails to beat Cereza, using his trick once again, he teleported both of them away and fleed. This is when B1 and B2 comes in. China Bay and Cereza been teleported to B1 universe where B3 and B1 interacts with each other.
We were robbed....EVERYTHING about this looks so much better! Even the small red Viola looks better. I would've waited longer to get this.
But honestly, seeing that there were production problems through the development of the game, I think the end result was sadly inevitable.
That concept art for Thule is great, it truly looks like an island that extends into multiple dimensions
honestly, if this plot of Bayonettas working together was repurposed as the multiverse Bayonetta’s being recruited by Brave Bayonetta throughout the story, that’d be cool too
I think the bird golem ties into the South America level. The outlines look like the Peru Nazca lines, which would be cool
this was all cut because of Hellena Taylor not returning 🙃
All I can ask to the producers of Bayonetta 3 is "WHY?"
I like to blame Helena Taylor for the reason we didn't get a cooler bayo3 🙃
Singularity looking like Lucifer from SMT 4
6:50 ngl, I would've too. Like if there is something i really dislike is rushed stories and games
5:02 more than Naive, i would call her the most flamboyant, sassy and the most aura mater out of them, more than "naive and easy going"
The one who makes the other 2 reason and act to a level headed manner, even though Cereza is indeed probably the most level headed one, she is still way too sadistic for her own manner
Nah why did they scrap this 💀