@@yappi_door10Why prioritise speed instead of damage? Otherwise, it would be jumpstart nailgun that is bad, because it doesn't do conduction in an instant, but increases damage. And if we want more damage rather than speed, then jumpstart sawblade is bad, because it's not like saw trap will hindrance you in any way at all, meaning that there is no need to NOT switch to blue sawblade launcher, but if you do it fast, then it defeats the purpose of jumpstart nailgun, but in the end, it's not like you don't already have enough saws in your saw trap to shoot even more, so jumpstart nailgun is a better choice simply because it does the same thing for you but can deal a tiny bit of extra damage, which is basically useless if you instantly go for saw trap as soon as you attach the wire to the enemy, but it's not like doing an actual saw trap is going to hindrance you-- Jumpstart paradox, or am I just stupid?
Everyone keeps talking about what happens when shooting coin, but not core or other things like core. 5.25 is a lot but the fact that core snipe gets punished with reload time is why I don't use it.
Some things that I think show taken notes from: About alternative marksman: 1-it DOES NOT intended to use for multiple enemies. It is used for single targets like boss fight since the split coin mechanics are for single targets 2-its more skill based than the def marksman. Because if you don't land the split shot you have to wait for reload time and it's kinda punishment/rewarding situation and more skill based imo(I don't use the alt marksman to be clear, I'm just correcting things) About some other weapons like alt shotgun and normal nail gun: 1-nailgun is now op as fuck specially in the cyber grind. With conducting buf to nail gun it's satisfying as fuck when I DESTROY the hords of enemies with conducting. The sawgun is so op too, but this doesn't mean the nailgun is shit and I like it more because you have to actually put skill and effort in conducting unlike just putting down magnet and saws 2-alt shotgun has some fucking crazy techs. It's hard to use and needs a lot of skill to put them in practice, but the dps ability of jackhammer is op
alt marksman carried my ass through some self made challenges, but i usually forget to unequip it when i enter cybergrind and i am too lazy to change it. therefore its the worst weapon, making me actually remember a tiny little detail and NOT letting me be lazy
I find alt marksman more fun to use compared to the normal one, the ping is so satisfying and the bonus damage that you can just spam if you hit the coin at the right moment makes this marksman in my humble opinion superior on bosses and cybergrind. You already have so much crowd control in cybergrind anyway the split coin makes hardly a differance. Rocking 3 alt revolvers is the shit.
Alt marksman got me 2 new cybergrind records so it is a great weapon in my eyes. If you’re good enough to consistently hit the splitcoin, it’s 999999x better.
@@spicetea4060 if you hit a splitshot window with the slab piercer then switch fast to the alt marksman, then try and get the split shot window with the improved drawing time, u actually can but too specific
Unironically, the alt marksman is great for bosses. It's pretty useless at everything else, but the combo of coins and an alt revolver is pretty strong.
I like the alternate revolvers more than the standard ones, the standard ones feel way too weak to use for me, and splitcoins are unnecessary in my opinion for multitarget since conductor exists (overheat nail+jumpstart saw is great for that). I’d rather hit a single enemy harder than do a very small amount of damage to 2 enemies. If I ever use a standard revolver again though it’ll probably be piercer if they buff it somehow (such as increasing the locational damage bonus to the charge shot). Also about the “just hit the one frame window” thing, it does actuality bother me that people still try to use that as an excuse since the same thing could be said about using a default revolver. “You could just swap to the standard piercer or sharpshooter to hit your splitcoins.” I know that nobody who normally uses standard marksman will do it though, but they should at least try to do it consistently before telling people who use alt marksman to do that and change their playstyles
I think most people can respect you if you use alt marksman either way. Whether you use it for its pros or because you want to challenge yourself nobody really minds it’s entertaining either way.
i agree with you 100% you havent annoyed me in the slightest also i bet you're gonna be making some new content when fraud comes out. you aren't escaping from ultrakill, bud
Linguini caught parrying with the knuckleblaster. Local schism says: "Washed. Bro fell off. Dies on the weezer room now."
Counterpoint: Max0r uses Alt Marksman so that makes it a W by default
Fair
@@SDN5-ru1rowdym "fair" this is BASED.
@@thelazyguy72 real
yeah but max0r is coomer bait so it evens out the good.
The few times max0r isn’t based is using this thing
Timestamps:
00:00 Video
Damn man i couldn't find that specific part tysm🙏
@@WarHunter57 glad i can help a brother out 🙏
Forgot 14:14
what about 00:-1
It does not spell like that lmao@@ivangivorachederfritzdanha4276
"womp fucking womp" -linguini 2024
womp did what to womp????
1:08
@@arnoldsmeisters Took “go f*ck yourself” a bit too seriously
there are no bad ultrakill weapons, only bad ways to use them
Jumpstart sawblade launcher has entered the chat
@@atg4eva fast electricity charge without need to switch weapon
@@yappi_door10Why prioritise speed instead of damage? Otherwise, it would be jumpstart nailgun that is bad, because it doesn't do conduction in an instant, but increases damage. And if we want more damage rather than speed, then jumpstart sawblade is bad, because it's not like saw trap will hindrance you in any way at all, meaning that there is no need to NOT switch to blue sawblade launcher, but if you do it fast, then it defeats the purpose of jumpstart nailgun, but in the end, it's not like you don't already have enough saws in your saw trap to shoot even more, so jumpstart nailgun is a better choice simply because it does the same thing for you but can deal a tiny bit of extra damage, which is basically useless if you instantly go for saw trap as soon as you attach the wire to the enemy, but it's not like doing an actual saw trap is going to hindrance you--
Jumpstart paradox, or am I just stupid?
A good artist doesn't need fancy tools
Default piercer:
Counterpoint: it does a cool spin
Alt marksman is a skilled based weapon, if you hit the splitcoin you win 5+ damage and a reload for FREE, Alt marksman is underated asf
Everyone keeps talking about what happens when shooting coin, but not core or other things like core. 5.25 is a lot but the fact that core snipe gets punished with reload time is why I don't use it.
Bro really did do all of P-2 first try, after weezer room, conclusion: slab good, weezer bad
Some things that I think show taken notes from:
About alternative marksman:
1-it DOES NOT intended to use for multiple enemies. It is used for single targets like boss fight since the split coin mechanics are for single targets
2-its more skill based than the def marksman. Because if you don't land the split shot you have to wait for reload time and it's kinda punishment/rewarding situation and more skill based imo(I don't use the alt marksman to be clear, I'm just correcting things)
About some other weapons like alt shotgun and normal nail gun:
1-nailgun is now op as fuck specially in the cyber grind. With conducting buf to nail gun it's satisfying as fuck when I DESTROY the hords of enemies with conducting. The sawgun is so op too, but this doesn't mean the nailgun is shit and I like it more because you have to actually put skill and effort in conducting unlike just putting down magnet and saws
2-alt shotgun has some fucking crazy techs. It's hard to use and needs a lot of skill to put them in practice, but the dps ability of jackhammer is op
yeah bro like nailgun after full arsenal is op af idk why people are still shit about it
alt marksman carried my ass through some self made challenges, but i usually forget to unequip it when i enter cybergrind and i am too lazy to change it.
therefore its the worst weapon, making me actually remember a tiny little detail and NOT letting me be lazy
7:14
Haha he parried with the knuckleblaster 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ragebait? (also have you even played the game or completed it? HAVE YOU P-RANKED ATLEAST 5 LEVELS OR 2 LAYERS?)
@Katkitlol103 i could argue with you, but that seems like too much effort so I won't goodbye
He was dead on about never dying after weezer
also marksman is kinda useful for figuring out exactly where a boss is if it's out of view and you don't feel like moving your mouse super fast
Bro has removed the custom style names mod 😭😭
The Alternate Marksman is optimal for bosses and that's it. I love Alt Marksman but default is far better in almost every situation except bosses.
11:07 don't be so hard on yourself, you're a fun personality to watch!
"I dont use the internet much anymore"
*Proceeds to make two videos in a day*
Alt-marksman only vs mayo%
I just zoned out and listened to the music and watched the gameplay.
I mean his voice is so monotonous is kinda just sounds like ambience
dragging this video to 14 minutes is crazy sobbing emoji hands praying emoji skull emoji 💔
I find alt marksman more fun to use compared to the normal one, the ping is so satisfying and the bonus damage that you can just spam if you hit the coin at the right moment makes this marksman in my humble opinion superior on bosses and cybergrind. You already have so much crowd control in cybergrind anyway the split coin makes hardly a differance. Rocking 3 alt revolvers is the shit.
7:44 "hit the 1 frame window dumbass" as he gets crushed by a boulder he couldn't parry
Alt marksman got me 2 new cybergrind records so it is a great weapon in my eyes. If you’re good enough to consistently hit the splitcoin, it’s 999999x better.
The Slab Marksman isn't bad, it's just that the Regular one just performs better than it in most situations
make up your mind, ultrakill community.
the problem with the alt marksmen is that it cant do anything that you can't do with trowing a coin and swapping to an alt pearcer
I'm pretty sure the time it takes to draw the piercer makes it impossible to hit the split shot window
@@spicetea4060 if you hit a splitshot window with the slab piercer then switch fast to the alt marksman, then try and get the split shot window with the improved drawing time, u actually can but too specific
you physically can't hit the first splitcoin window, swapping to another alt takes too long
Please do a video where you only use slab marksman, blue jackhammer, default nailguns, screwdriver rail cannon, and fire starter launcher
I'm going to 7-3 reference myself
Unironically, the alt marksman is great for bosses. It's pretty useless at everything else, but the combo of coins and an alt revolver is pretty strong.
tbh alt markman almost completely negates the normal "more cooldown" thing so i prefer it over the others having 25 seconds of cooldown
in the weezer room you can go in the corner and stand on top of their head, then the weezer room becomes a lot easier
i agree that the alt marksman is bad because it is terribly hard to get good coining with it
I like the alternate revolvers more than the standard ones, the standard ones feel way too weak to use for me, and splitcoins are unnecessary in my opinion for multitarget since conductor exists (overheat nail+jumpstart saw is great for that). I’d rather hit a single enemy harder than do a very small amount of damage to 2 enemies. If I ever use a standard revolver again though it’ll probably be piercer if they buff it somehow (such as increasing the locational damage bonus to the charge shot). Also about the “just hit the one frame window” thing, it does actuality bother me that people still try to use that as an excuse since the same thing could be said about using a default revolver. “You could just swap to the standard piercer or sharpshooter to hit your splitcoins.” I know that nobody who normally uses standard marksman will do it though, but they should at least try to do it consistently before telling people who use alt marksman to do that and change their playstyles
It’s far faster to just hit a split coin than do a nail jump start
@@Tyto-ATTA it also obliterates half of the map
imagine having x opinion
opinion z is so much better because it's my opinion and not opinion x
Opinion J
i watched the refund ultrakill literally like 20 minutes ago then i got this notification
Alt Marksman vs Default Marksman is the Hollow Knight Steady Body Charm debate all over again. (just walk forwards steady body is nigh useless.)
Marksman slab goes hard what
ngl it boils down to how you wanna play and if you can time your shots right on the coins
*cries in not haven beaten P-1 on standard*
3:11 My brother in Christ I can’t even beat p-1
He using the alternative marksman holy shit 😮
I am also not annoyed in spite of you.
me who uses alt marksman:
I remembered my first violent P-2 P-rank attempts... yeah, I've been trying it with slab mm revolver. almost successfully, tho
balls
big ones
none of
I think most people can respect you if you use alt marksman either way. Whether you use it for its pros or because you want to challenge yourself nobody really minds it’s entertaining either way.
i love slab marksman.
11:02 because I have a prosocial relationship with the female profile picture man
11:02
i just wanna see if you actually beat every other room first try
How’s life chat
14:14 by peso pluma?
i agree with you 100%
you havent annoyed me in the slightest
also i bet you're gonna be making some new content when fraud comes out. you aren't escaping from ultrakill, bud
try with the defoult marksman
I think the alt is good... just not better than the default
Man, I love this weapon, why do you guys hate this so much?
Which is worse? The jackhammer, or the alt marksman?
There is absolutely no way you just said jackhammer is bad...
11:04 i think that weapon is terrible im enjoying you suffer with it
i used one weapon for Sisyphus and that is regular marksman, no coins i just shot him till he died
I use this marksman and I love it
A GHOST!!
Keep yourself safe
Okay, what's good nerds today, i'm going to annoy the shit out of the community
Video starts 5:18
you should stream on twitch
i main alt marksman, you can't defeat me
Use the normal piercer and then we’ll talk
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUNNY STYLE
Linguini i lov yo
Alt marksman 💩or 🔥
0:32 but it is trash (unlike the jackhammer (in my opinion))
hell yeah new video
I’m not annoyed in spite of you.
I Use alt marksmen and i beat p2 brutal p rank.
3 times in a row.
wheres fettucini :(
currently playing portal revolution lmao
@@linguini645 lmfaoo valid asf
why is this so funny
grrrr woof woof
maybe first lmao
I don't care what you think about a weapon in a game, but you being like "hueh hueh people are gonna be so triggered" is pretty lame.
It's a joke
first
7:14
Haha he parried with the knuckleblaster 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂