I find it fascinating that people seem to just get sadness out of Smiths' lyrics. What about the humor? The Smiths were the only band EVER that made me laugh out loud at their lyrics!
Yeah, exactly. Those who say "it's mopey and just sad, i don't get it" completely missed the brilliance of The Smiths/Morrissey. I've never laughed harder at lyrics more than I have at Morrissey's ("the pain was enough to make a shy bald Buddhist reflect and plan a mass murder", "your BF he went down on one knee, or could it be he's only got one knee", the entire Vicar in a Tutu song, even song titles "mute witness" 😂😂😂
I love Hamm's honesty here and the fact he passed on the opportunity to pretend he is a music guy. Met so many people that are twice as clueless and claim that music is their life etc.
They’re just doing a bit; playing against people’s expectations of hamm. He’s a funny guy and clearly loves the smiths. This is a way to be funny and show his love of the band.
I honestly don't even know who Jon Hamn is but I guess this guy just retains knowledge very very well, meaning he can talk about a lot of different subject ranges with specific information.
Your comments rings true to me (even though I know very well who Jon Hamm is) because I'm just like him. I'm aware of random stuff and I don't even know where I got the info, it's like being a sponge. Being curious about different things and simply aware by default seems to be why this happens. He may be trolling but I can see how he may be actually honest when he says he is just aware of it even thought not a fan.
Agreed, Sofia, but I think trolling would be too strong a word. Hamm could be showing his sponginess or Hamm (or both of them) could be affecting the situation of his Smiths non-allegiance for laughs. Just clowning about, really. Musicians are spongy about music across all genres and performers. They often know stuff about music they don't like or are indifferent too. Maybe Hamm was a frustrated musician before he became an actor. He definitely has Moz/The Smiths character off pat; misery in a major key. Anyway, Hamm seems like a nice chap. I might check out his films.
Post-punk, the absolute darling genre of music critics...bring that bass to the front, jangly guitars, sing like you don't care, and critics will love you
profd65 Excuse me? Who the fuck are you calling an idiot? You must have gotten your lilly ass kicked by someone wearing a Dokken shirt back in the day. Yeah, you trench coat, half shaven purple hair, eyeliner dweebs were soooo smart. Pfff.
I was in the USMC in 89 but anyway, I am a true metal head since 82 but when I got to my first duty station a buddy of mine introduced me to The Smiths and that was it. I’ve been a true fan ever since
Hahaha it's unreal how you could say they suck. I LOVE the Smiths so much and they have had a huge impact on my life as well as my guitar playing but even if you're not huge into their music you can't say they suck because Johnny Marr's guitar playing was literally genius and completely unique and influenced so many people same with Morrissey's voice and lyrics, they were so unique and influenced countless others
The Smiths suck? Well aren't you just a boy with a thorn in it's side. What happened? Did your walkman start to melt so you couldn't appreciate them? Or are you just a belligerent ghoul that gave up education as a bad mistake?
Anonymous DueToFascists Not liking a band doesn't automatically mean someone is an idiot. Saying they suck is a bit harsh, but not everyone connects with The Smiths. They're not as iconic as their fans make them out to be either. I hadn't even heard of them until I was well into high school. I had heard of bands like The Cure and Joy Division long before I heard of The Smiths. They're good, but I don't see them as that amazing, to each his own.
He never said he didn't listen to the smiths, he said he was introduced to it late in life and that when he listen to it, he never fell in love for it...But it sure seams like he listen to it and "studied it". There are plenty of bands that I I know a lot about (maybe it's collateral acquired knowledge, say... because so many friends (or a lover) were into it...Maybe it's a generational thing, that made him know about it (he seams to have an amazing memory/learning skills) but still, he can't say he loves their sound... Anyhow, it's not my case in regards to the smiths, I love the smiths...
@@pukeyourguts if you google his name, yes, he is an actor with 51 credits in TV and movies. But, nuanced? He’s playing the straight man and it’s pretty straightforward here, act incredulous.
It can be perceived as being cool and collected to casually lie about passionate knowledge you know about someone or something; something you do have some passion for; to make light of it to not sound obsessed or fixated. He doesn't want to be quizzed about Morrissey trivia after saying something pedantic like "I'm a big fan", so he's doing this thinly veiled ruse instead to stay modest.
My brother knows The Smiths because we lived in the same house and I played them all the time. Sometimes he surprises me with what he knows. He also knows some Depeche Mode through vicarious transmission. Sometimes he'll spit-out a lyric or two.
Same, my sisters know songs and bands just from when I lived at home so they definitely are more aware than non-fans in terms of lyrics and album titles, but I know for sure they are not fans. Just aware.
I like how they just let the interview go off organically onto this tangent and let it linger there. It really showed a different side to Jon's personality.
HaHa! I know right!? It's like road kill. You don't wanna see it but somethings intriguing or just not right or something, and your like wtf is going on here?!!
Lot's of guys from the Midwest for whatever reason refuse to admit that they like them. Sad really. I'm from the Midwest and those bands are literally ALL that all I listen to.
no, the phrase looks like its painted in the helmet. I actually had to check that, bc when he said it was a card thats the way my brain painted that memory. H probably remembered the phrase being on the helmet and closed the gap in his memory by making the logical assumption that it was on a card.
I'm a hardcore reggae music man and I loved the Smiths from way back in the 80s, showing my age. I must be one of the few black men in the world to admit that :)
Ha, I remember that Dana Gould bit. It was on pre-Comedy Central, when it was Comedy Channel. There was a part where he went "I cried and I cried and then I DIED" and he talked about how you only need one Morrisey album because they were all like that.
He's not laying down any obscure knowledge. Anybody who grew up in the 80's knows about Meat is Murder. I feel like Chris' amazement is rooted in a more recent discovery of the Smiths.
I disagree, a lot of people know The Smiths but wouldn't be able to name any albums or songs, let alone comment on the characteristics of the lyrics! Besides don't forget that both of them are American not English
Lol, that's bullshit. Certainly in America the overwhelming majority of persons in the '80s had never heard of the Smiths, and they certainly weren't aware of particular albums of the Smiths. I was in college in the '80s; I know.
Guys, it's possible. I know of a lot of films that I never watched (like production details, director, cast, award nominations, reception, etc.). I bet you can know of albums and bands that you never listened to.
John pretending not to know "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" killed me. Just admit you love Morrissey dude! It's ok
I'm as unlikely as him to be a fan I was brought to the Smith's by marr unbelievable guitarist.
He's pulling a Morrissey.
Carpophage , by the dong
Definitely pulling a Morrissey
- Girlfriend in a coma
- Super serious.
He just threw it like it was nothing. I love Jon Hamm.
dead giveaway
Could i love Jon Hamm any more?
(rhetorical question)
I bet he can name every bside.
LOVER LINK hahaha
😆 🤣
the man from Mad Men adore music of the Sad Men.
Muarif Sumahar Ohh brother. Cutesy, try-to-hard.
Jajajaja
adoreS
Jon Hamm is being extremely modest about his love of Morrissey.
Chris: Girlfriend in a coma I know...
John: It's serious, its super serious
Chris: YOU DO KNOW THE SMITHS!
John: Who?
I find it fascinating that people seem to just get sadness out of Smiths' lyrics. What about the humor? The Smiths were the only band EVER that made me laugh out loud at their lyrics!
Noodleydoo exactly, lol
What?
"Let me get my hands on your mammary glands"
“some girls are bigger than others”
Yeah, exactly. Those who say "it's mopey and just sad, i don't get it" completely missed the brilliance of The Smiths/Morrissey. I've never laughed harder at lyrics more than I have at Morrissey's ("the pain was enough to make a shy bald Buddhist reflect and plan a mass murder", "your BF he went down on one knee, or could it be he's only got one knee", the entire Vicar in a Tutu song, even song titles "mute witness" 😂😂😂
Jon Hamm is the best!! The fact that he knows about music, even if it's not his favourite says a lot about him. Very cultivate, clever, witty guy.
You love Morrissey don't you Squidward?
Ibo J love this 😂😂😂😂
I live for this comment
He's messing with him big time. He's been following Moz since the early 80's.
I love Hamm's honesty here and the fact he passed on the opportunity to pretend he is a music guy. Met so many people that are twice as clueless and claim that music is their life etc.
spot on
you scare me
People enjoy things in different ways. Not knowing the facts doesn't mean someone doesn't love music.
It’s a bit, this is a funny way of showing that hamm IS a music guy who loves the smiths.
He's like Michael Keaton's character in the other guys. "I've never heard of TLC."
This has to be a sketch, right? Otherwise... my crush for Jon Hamm has just blossomed into proper love.
They’re just doing a bit; playing against people’s expectations of hamm. He’s a funny guy and clearly loves the smiths. This is a way to be funny and show his love of the band.
I honestly don't even know who Jon Hamn is but I guess this guy just retains knowledge very very well, meaning he can talk about a lot of different subject ranges with specific information.
You really need to watch Mad Men. No, you have to.
Your comments rings true to me (even though I know very well who Jon Hamm is) because I'm just like him. I'm aware of random stuff and I don't even know where I got the info, it's like being a sponge. Being curious about different things and simply aware by default seems to be why this happens. He may be trolling but I can see how he may be actually honest when he says he is just aware of it even thought not a fan.
Gregor Carlin a normal human being
Agreed, Sofia, but I think trolling would be too strong a word. Hamm could be showing his sponginess or Hamm (or both of them) could be affecting the situation of his Smiths non-allegiance for laughs. Just clowning about, really.
Musicians are spongy about music across all genres and performers. They often know stuff about music they don't like or are indifferent too. Maybe Hamm was a frustrated musician before he became an actor. He definitely has Moz/The Smiths character off pat; misery in a major key.
Anyway, Hamm seems like a nice chap. I might check out his films.
I think these two should get a room.
they're in a room
Hahah
f montes so they can listen to Smiths Records?
So they can secretly, and sincerely take their own Li.....
NO, to trade personal information, so they can get on each others Christmas card lists.
Post-punk, the absolute darling genre of music critics...bring that bass to the front, jangly guitars, sing like you don't care, and critics will love you
jaivas16 ......unless you're U2.
alot of post-punk has pretty angular guitars. but yeah turn that bass the fuck up in the mix
Absolute darling? Dude, you haven't a clue what you're talking about..
The darling of anyone who isn't an idiot, you mean. What were we supposed to listen to in the '80s? Dokken? Motley Crue?
profd65 Excuse me? Who the fuck are you calling an idiot? You must have gotten your lilly ass kicked by someone wearing a Dokken shirt back in the day. Yeah, you trench coat, half shaven purple hair, eyeliner dweebs were soooo smart. Pfff.
I was in the USMC in 89 but anyway, I am a true metal head since 82 but when I got to my first duty station a buddy of mine introduced me to The Smiths and that was it. I’ve been a true fan ever since
lol he's fucking with us and its brilliantly done.
How can't you love the smiths!!!!!!!!!!
Easy. They suck
Hahaha it's unreal how you could say they suck. I LOVE the Smiths so much and they have had a huge impact on my life as well as my guitar playing but even if you're not huge into their music you can't say they suck because Johnny Marr's guitar playing was literally genius and completely unique and influenced so many people same with Morrissey's voice and lyrics, they were so unique and influenced countless others
The Smiths suck?
Well aren't you just a boy with a thorn in it's side. What happened? Did your walkman start to melt so you couldn't appreciate them?
Or are you just a belligerent ghoul that gave up education as a bad mistake?
Anonymous DueToFascists Not liking a band doesn't automatically mean someone is an idiot. Saying they suck is a bit harsh, but not everyone connects with The Smiths. They're not as iconic as their fans make them out to be either. I hadn't even heard of them until I was well into high school. I had heard of bands like The Cure and Joy Division long before I heard of The Smiths. They're good, but I don't see them as that amazing, to each his own.
The Cure??? Now they suck. And Joy Division had only a couple good songs. Interpol took the style of Joy Division and did it much better.
"Girlfriend in a Coma is super serious"
I know, i know. . .
Lyrics written with tongue firmly inplated in cheek. That was the brilliance of the Smiths. Jangly pop melodies with wry sardonic lyrics.
He never said he didn't listen to the smiths, he said he was introduced to it late in life and that when he listen to it, he never fell in love for it...But it sure seams like he listen to it and "studied it". There are plenty of bands that I I know a lot about (maybe it's collateral acquired knowledge, say... because so many friends (or a lover) were into it...Maybe it's a generational thing, that made him know about it (he seams to have an amazing memory/learning skills) but still, he can't say he loves their sound... Anyhow, it's not my case in regards to the smiths, I love the smiths...
Me 2 . :)
Ana Siqueira *seems :)
I need that shirt so bad
Wth. Hes pulling the guys leg. He is obsessed w the smiths
sundance kidd The nerd looks like he’d like to pull Hamm’s leg.
It’s a bit, they’re both in on it. Jeez idk how this went over so many peoples heads
@@baxoutthebox5682 surely it's not a pre-planned bit; the interviewer is a very talented and nuanced actor if so
@@pukeyourguts if you google his name, yes, he is an actor with 51 credits in TV and movies. But, nuanced? He’s playing the straight man and it’s pretty straightforward here, act incredulous.
He's sooooo trolling this guy! 😂
I get it. I worked in a record store for seven years and acquired a lot of knowledge about bands I don't listen to.
Jon Hamm the ultimate troll lmao
It can be perceived as being cool and collected to casually lie about passionate knowledge you know about someone or something; something you do have some passion for; to make light of it to not sound obsessed or fixated. He doesn't want to be quizzed about Morrissey trivia after saying something pedantic like "I'm a big fan", so he's doing this thinly veiled ruse instead to stay modest.
My brother knows The Smiths because we lived in the same house and I played them all the time. Sometimes he surprises me with what he knows. He also knows some Depeche Mode through vicarious transmission. Sometimes he'll spit-out a lyric or two.
Same, my sisters know songs and bands just from when I lived at home so they definitely are more aware than non-fans in terms of lyrics and album titles, but I know for sure they are not fans. Just aware.
Haha....this is real funny...and The Smiths were amazing...and Mr. Hamm knows it.
Can you make the footage shakier next time? Needs more Blair Witch vibe.
haha unlucky m888, i didn't even notice. plus i'm never gonna watch this video again so i never will notice. life is good
The pause and look to the people behind the camera when he mentions "I used to read the Rolling Stone! ........ " hahahaha
when you sleep I will creep into your thoughts like a bad debt that you can't pay.
It's weird seeing don draper say the word "erasure"
miraeja especially when he was wrong mentioning them. They are not in 24 hr Party People, I guess he was thinking of New Order.
He would have been about 55 in that era (Don Draper, that is), so Kurt Loder or Rodney Bingenheimer age. Could work as a sequel!
Manchester is where it's at, dude. Music is our saviour from the grey laden skies :)
I bet he can name every Moby b side
I like how they just let the interview go off organically onto this tangent and let it linger there. It really showed a different side to Jon's personality.
Fuck....... I truly love this man...... Jon you're gorgeous, smart, funny and clever! I do love your voice so much.
Honestly... I totally feel John. I feel like I know so much about “cult” bands that I don’t even like too much.
wtf is this. kinda entertaining somehow.
HaHa! I know right!? It's like road kill. You don't wanna see it but somethings intriguing or just not right or something, and your like wtf is going on here?!!
This is like the captain played by Michael Keaton in "The Other Guys" pretending that he's not referencing TLC
They should’ve had a quiet fight at the end of the interview….
I watch this clip once a month, maybe more, I Love it.
jeez. john hamm has so many levels. what a mind he has. he's a pisces, virgo moon.
This is platonic, leg-pulling flirtation at it's very best ...🤠🤠
Lot's of guys from the Midwest for whatever reason refuse to admit that they like them. Sad really. I'm from the Midwest and those bands are literally ALL that all I listen to.
Sad really, that those bands are literally ALL that you listen to.
this is just so bizarre, why can I not stop watching this?
There isn't a card stuck in the soldier's helmet Mr. Smiths fan
no, the phrase looks like its painted in the helmet. I actually had to check that, bc when he said it was a card thats the way my brain painted that memory. H probably remembered the phrase being on the helmet and closed the gap in his memory by making the logical assumption that it was on a card.
But i bet you had to look at the first before you could say that
+iutlu.....hence, the Mandela effect
This man has charisma!
Might he be a Charming Man?
Chris Gethard is an actual person's non-porn name? That's the most amazing part of this.
This made me lol and like Jon Hamm. So, nice.
I'm a hardcore reggae music man and I loved the Smiths from way back in the 80s, showing my age. I must be one of the few black men in the world to admit that :)
This would make a hilarious skit
Jon Hamm is da man! He even knows more about the Smiths than the fans
Wow, I like both Jon Hamm and Morrissey both a lot more after this clip (recovering Smiths fanatic)
have ya relapsed yet my man or did ya get that 3 year chip
Don Draper denying his roots!!
after this interview, he frowns, then leaves, meets a girl at a bar.
and then his workday starts, at around 2:00 p.m.
He totally looks like a Morrissey wannabe
Ha, I remember that Dana Gould bit. It was on pre-Comedy Central, when it was Comedy Channel. There was a part where he went "I cried and I cried and then I DIED" and he talked about how you only need one Morrisey album because they were all like that.
Clown F#$#er! Lol
What she said
How come someone hasn’t notice
THAT I’M DEAD
And start to burry me God knows I’m ready..
did i just get sienfelded at the end?
How does this not have a million views
I just realize that this guy is one of the Dwight's friend's in The Office
Where there's references to both the Beastie Boys and Morrissey, I shall be there.
note to self: never mention those two acts in close lexical proximity
Jon Hamm....it's not something to be ashamed of......oh i love it.....it takes one to know one, and Mr. Hamm......you ARE one.
The album title is written on the solders helmet, no card.
Yes, it was photoshopped though, it didn't originally say "Meat is Murder" I don't remember what was written previously, if anything.
And of course the double reference of Meat and meet
Betting Moz has the red telephone in his office that only Jon Hamm phones
He's not laying down any obscure knowledge. Anybody who grew up in the 80's knows about Meat is Murder. I feel like Chris' amazement is rooted in a more recent discovery of the Smiths.
I disagree, a lot of people know The Smiths but wouldn't be able to name any albums or songs, let alone comment on the characteristics of the lyrics! Besides don't forget that both of them are American not English
Lol, that's bullshit. Certainly in America the overwhelming majority of persons in the '80s had never heard of the Smiths, and they certainly weren't aware of particular albums of the Smiths. I was in college in the '80s; I know.
You were in college in the 80s therefore you can speak for an entire generation
+Eden Villejulla > He's not laying down any obscure knowledge. Anybody who grew up in the 80's knows about Meat is Murder
You'd be very surprised...
His knowledge around that Manchester sound, as he said, is probably not common for a lot of people outside of the U.K. though lol
God dam this is a great example of a good conversation folks
Guys, it's possible. I know of a lot of films that I never watched (like production details, director, cast, award nominations, reception, etc.). I bet you can know of albums and bands that you never listened to.
Jon is one cool cat
he excitment of the interviwer its exactly of that when two smiths fans meet
Watch Henry Rollin's take on Morrissey lol Perfection!
3:31 is hilarious given the context of all this
This is hilarious! Hamm is good at straight comedy here
I'm exactly like Hamm in that I know a LOT about the Smiths without ever having been a huge fan. I'm also incredibly good looking.
How do people here not get hammbone is doing a bit. He’s a funny guy
The jiggling camera is so contrived , just stop it.
Tobias Duncan I know. It's going on 20 years of this hand-held shit. Gives me a fucking headache.
"This is a song I wrote during a difficult period in my life. Over breakfast. It's called 'hairdresser in a coma'."
It's because cool, happy Johnny Marr wrote the music and grumpo Morrissey wrote the words. I love both those guys.
Guy with glasses,did he come out in the office as Dwights weird friend?
Jon Hamm one of the coolest guys on earth
He luvs The Smiths. He's taking the piss. He's great.
Morissey is the greatest
A R he’s a bitch
Morrissey is a racist and his solo music fucking sucks
@@aricfroze8971 WRONG
Were of my favs too as a teen. Ham's cultured and interested in prominent music cultures
Lol this is almost like the old SNL skit "now I'm just a caveman"
"He's a very honest person" That was a double meaning 🤯
That is EXACTLY my two tastes in music, The Smiths and Punk Rock :OO
Hamm .. you're quite the mad man !
I wish you would have known you, Jon. I would have loved to take you a tour of Chicago's punk scene.
Jon is such a Smiths and Morrissey super fan that he won't actually admit he's a super fan. That's how big a fan he is.
Newfound admiration for this Hamm man.
Oh shit. Lol. "The more you ignore me the closer I WILL get." Great stuff.
Freakin John Hamm 😄
I bet you he could name every Smith's and morrissey albums!
Morrissey is dad
I just love Jonn Hamm more now !
So much charismaaaaaeeeehh
Just as with people who love dogs, if they love the Smiths, I immediately think more of them.
King Sad-rock, the 4th Beastie Boy 🤣
Glad to see Macklemore has his own internet show now!
This is my favorite youtube video of all time