@@ecottman57 honestly, maybe just relocate the Browns again and just forever leave that organization in the past. I don’t think Cleveland fans would care as much as they did before they at least have the Cavs and Guardians
@@boogitybear2283 good god the last thing the world needs is more Steelers fans, but it’s crazy how in 2020 we were talking about Cleveland winning there first playoff game in convincing fashion and being a respectable franchise again and it all got destroyed because of shitty coaching and poor leadership from Jimmy Haslam, and the Deshaun Watson contract to top it off
Sad to see the late 90s stadiums begin to fall. First Tennessee, now Cleveland. They seem perfectly fine to me. Of course the worst of that bunch, FedEx Field, has no sunset in sight.
Its definitely happening for Fedex Field. It just had a change in ownership two years ago. There’s a lot of talk and arguing over the location. Most are saying it will be at the old RFK site.
@@Roberto-dm8xl So just 25 and they already say it's obsolete. Unbelievable. Don't let taxpayer money build the next one. All cities should band together.
The city of Cleveland has filed court orders to stop this. The city has a contract that any new stadium has to be in the city of Cleveland NOT in the suburbs
Haslam is a criminal he should have never been allowed to own the team. He just made the worst deal in the history of sports only to make a serial rapist the face of the franchise. Now it's time for the next big disaster.
Relax. That nonsense doesn’t help. The team has been on wobbly footing since Art ran off with the team, we retained the name, and were pressed into service to build a stadium. Browns never recovered. Look at this as a Browns Renaissance. Grasp it!
You are the definition of modern cringe. He went to rub and tugs and got rubbed and tugged. The women only went to court to make money. They know exactly what their job is. If it wasn't their job to jerk guys off they wouldn't've did for Dashaun, especially not the amount of times reported. Absolutely pathetic how people think that's sexual assault. It's cringe but 100% consensual. If you don't want to jerk men off, don't work for rub and tugs.
Their team has scored 1 time in the last 29 drives. The teams problem is these owners and their management. Notice they say they are doing it for fans but then show nothing they are doing. But they do tell you they are adding a dome. They are doing this so they can get more money. These stadiums with no domes have so much history that weather itself is apart of the game. Making all stadiums dome kills the game.
Hell Randy Lerner was more of a problem than Haslam. Get over it. Modell wanted a new stadium plan. They just wanted renovation even back then. That old municipal grave cite has had it. Doom and gloom. Yes Modell had issues but damit he moved out of town and had a superbowl victory in 4 yrs in Baltimore. Be happy Jimmy's not moveing them out of state just 12 min down the road. To a bigger amusement park area. 😂. He could move out of state or even Columbus where his Crew is and build a dome at the old crew stadium off 71. Plenty of park at the fair grounds. Yes he won't be able to call them the Columbus Browns but he could bring back the Bull dogs that once was in the NFL. they have the logo. I would love to have them down here. Just remember cleveland you keep the name Cleveland Browns even if they are in Brook Park. You keep the Browns name even if they move to Columbus or move out of state. But you'll never get another chance like you did in 96 to have another NFL franchise . the NFL wants new stadiums. Plain and simple.
From an outsider looking in Cleveland , I’m from Detroit. But the stadium is 25 years old and looks nice , and it looks like it’s in amazing location. Why not just update the stadium and put a roof on it or retractable roof that would be cheaper than a new stadium.
You've got to understand, it was built as an indoor stadium. So, it would be like losing the roof on your house, exposing all the electrical, etc., which is not waterpoofed. Further, in FL, the mold growth will start within the first day without the AC. You'd have to gut/replace pretty much everything, which would almost as expensive as building a new one.
then expect the Mayflower moving trucks to pull up in the dead of night like they did in 1984 and move the team to Oklahoma City, St. Louis etc or any municipality dumb enough to pony up the money to build a mega-billion dollar stadium
I think this is a cursed team. Red right 88, the drive, the fumble. Then the guy that fumble the ball (Byner) goes to the redskins and wins a SB. The browns released Kosar, he goes to Dallas and wins a SB as a backup. Modell moves the team to Baltimore and wins the SB. Too many coincidences
The Rams. Cleveland's first NFL franchise, which moved to Los Angeles in 1946. Eight years later, St. Louis (who would later acquire the Rams via relocation in 1995) saw a baseball team in their city move to Baltimore to become the Orioles. That team was called the Browns, as was the NFL franchise from Cleveland that moved to Baltimore four decades later, the Cleveland franchise which replaced the Rams who moved to California, who then moved to Missouri. I know, useless trivia you probably don't care about. I just find it funny how eerily coincidental it all is. Lol.
I don't care where they go. My Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore. Model should have gotten an expansion team and condemned to a rebuilding disaster for ever.
this lady was totally right. It's about "being at home". Pay a billion dollars for a new stadium, just for "being on dome" and having trending about "look at my new stadium ?" who pay for that ? Tired of throw a bunch of money just for having a dome stadium..
Haslam made worst trade in sports history and now he is making another horrible decision. There is not going to be a ton of events at a new dome. Detroit has maybe 20 events at their dome. The current stadium for the Browns has about 12 a year. Cleveland doesn't have the market. Not to mention it could take away events from Rocket Mortgage to further hurt downtown business. Mayor Bibb should proceed with renovating around the stadium, keep it in place. Contract it out for concerts with rock hall or other sporting events. Heck - maybe even attract a new NFL franchise to return to Cleveland. Stick it to the Haslams and compete with them. Make him think twice before moving to Brook Park. That stadium is only 25 years old. If a new franchise came into Cleveland that was successful, it would wipe out the brook park browns.
Im from Detroit, live right near Ford Field ( covered), there were 51 events at the dome last year, its a great place, and ALL pro sports teams are a hands throw away..That was a very wise move and great for the city, restaurants, hotels, parking lots, bars and wonderful for many of us who live downtown and walk.. wish the Browns would stay downtown,, its great for the city.
@@manbtm1 How is taken away events from other arenas or venues in area? How big is the suburb for Ford field? Brook park is a small empty town near airport. It sounds like it worked out for Detroit but that is a much bigger market than Cleveland
Nashvillian and Titans fan here. At least yalls new stadium won't be the smallest in the league once it's completed. Also, get ready for season tickets to go up 3x or 4x the price you're paying now. The rich always win.
It's just a very short drive outside the city limits, just 14 miles down the road and still in the same county. About the same distance Met Life Stadium where the Giants and Jets play from New Yor City, and that's across the river in New Jersey. The 49ers play 40+ miles outside San Francisco.
Yes, but the downtown areas in those cities can survive without sports. Cleveland's downtown is very dependent on pro sports and concerts. Moving those to brook park is odd.
I used to enjoy watching the NFL in watching teams play in bad weather games, but now to host a Super Bowl a dome is pretty much required and teams no longer want to play in bad weather . Not many teams left have open stadiums and the ones that are left are turning into domes perfect example the Buffalo Bills, Tennessee, Titans, rams and chargers and now the browns . Bad weather games will soon be a thing of the past. It’s sad
Buffalo's new stadium is nothing close to a dome. It has an open roof, with only a partial covering of the seating. This means cold, rain, snow and wind on the field, and on many of the fans. It wouldn't have been practical for Buffalo to build a dome considering the extra engineering cost, and the fact that it is in the middle of nowhere that wouldn't attract a lot of additional events. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Cleveland either unless they have a really strong proposal for the surrounding area, but that feels boxed in by the airport, the remaining Ford engine plant and I-71.
Man I love how the park sits now. It’s beautiful. But it’s the old style. They all want that new look. Some kind of Mercedes Benz Stadium hybrids, or something. They are the new trend. They must have, and people absorb it and pay for it. In the face of the issues of this Country, the gluttony is sickening.
Football 🏈 Stadium 🏟️ is only used like 7 or 8 times. Other games are on the road. 365 - 8 =357 What will field be used for the other 357 days ❓🤷♂️ Honest Question Not like MLB Baseball ⚾️ with the Cleveland Guardians, used a lot more. Interesting 🥃🔥
With all due respect, please explain to me how one can "steal" something they already own. For example, Art Modell and the Cleveland Browns. I'll concede that Modell was a terrible businessman, and that he wasn't exactly truthful with the people of Cleveland when it came to his wheelings and dealings. But he didn't "steal" anything. When Cleveland wouldn't build him a new stadium despite happily doing so for the Indians and Cavs, he moved his team to Baltimore and suckered taxpayers there into building him one instead. That's really all there is to it.
That would be kind of cool, actually. You already have MLS teams in Cincinnati and Columbus. It would be fun to see Cleveland get in on the "Hell is Real" rivalry, since I-71 connects all three cities. Imagine that. Ohio's three largest cities, all of which hate one another, all having a soccer team in the same league. 😂
If I had to guess, I would say that probably no more than 10% of fans in attendance at any given sold-out Browns home game actually live inside the city limits of Cleveland. The rest of them come in from the suburbs of Cuyahoga and the other counties, as well as other nearby cities such as Akron-Canton, Youngstown, and Erie, Pa. And to a lesser extent, you can probably throw Columbus and Toledo in there as well. On top of that, you can also account for whatever fans come to Cleveland to support the visiting team, especially whenever the Steelers come to town.
Because the owners of the Chicago Bears (the McCaskey family ) don’t want to pay for a stadium. They want the taxpayers and tourists of Chicago to pay for it.
The lake front will be developed, the new stadium is 15 min away from the old one in the same county. All good to me. Cleveland has to get the crime under control downtown and through out the city.
What Cleveland should do is honor Haslem's study showing the revenue created with a new downtown stadium year over year. What the mayor should add to it is; every year the target revenue is not reached Haslem should pay the difference back to the Cleveland coffers.
City of Cleveland should have the leverage with keeping the Browns in city limits, I remember a few years back the Triple Crown Preakness venue was trying to move out of Baltimore, MD and into Laurel, MD. City of Baltimore had leverage over the State of MD, even thought Pimico Raceway is not in a welcoming part of town, surrounded with residential housing and no event parking.
They said the mayor is trying to do everything he can in negotiations to keep the stadium in Cleveland, I sure hope he doesn't do like the homeless guy in Menace to Society did for that cheeseburger.
Question does the baseball team need any renovations? That stadium is about 5 years older than Cleveland Browns Stadium or whatever it’s called. Owners making a decision. I cannot blame the city they actually tried to make a better spot unlike the city of Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego.
The current stadium is 25 years of losing. Move to a new site. Build a dome. Try and host the city a superbowl and make the new building multi-purpose and convention friendly. That’s additional revenue for the Haslam family.
lol the Steelers have been going down hill the last coping years. Remember the browns beat your ass the last couple years. Also they beat you in the playoffs.
Neither do the Bills, Dolphins, Giants, Jets, Chargers, Rams, and Commanders. In the cases of the Arizona and Minnesota teams, they use the state they're located in as opposed to an individual city within it. And then you have the Patriots, who effectively represent six entire states as opposed to just one city and play their home games out in the middle of nowhere an hour from Boston.
Mud,snow, rain…grit and smash football. That was the Cleveland way. Now we’re going to get a cushy, perfect 72 degree indoor dome 🤮. Should change the orange and brown to pink and yellow. Wtf Cleveland
Forget a new stadium, let them relocate. Jesus, hasn't Cleveland suffered enough with this shambles of a franchise, either versions, since the late 1980's?
I am sad for downtown Cleveland. Great cities need great urban cores. Downtowns are unique in culture and architecture. Who needs more "urban sprawl" boring cities.
Very disappointing. I attended a few Steelers games in the old Cleveland stadium in the early 90s and loved the lakefront, cold weather and fan atmosphere. I like all the Rust Belt teams. I'm an old school fan, which includes playing outdoors. Can't imagine watching the Browns in a dome...ughhhh!
Where's Michael White? That mayor wasn't having it. He saved your team. Hell your stadium should be called "The Michael White Sports and Entertainment Complex "
I’m not even a Browns fan but this is ridiculous. As if Art Modell betraying the city wasn’t enough, now the current owners are doing it. What the hell is wrong with their current stadium? Maybe they need to focus on finding a real QB
After 25 years and they need a new stadium? When does this nonsense end?
When the people stop voting for pols that give welfare to billionaires.
It won't. They will just move if they don't get what they want.
Absolutely. There is no such thing as enough when the billionaire wants his handouts.@@DebitAdams
The Denver Broncos are discussing a new stadium too. The current stadium they play in was only built in 2001
@@enigmathegrayman2953 All teams want their 2 billion dollar dome now.
Asking the backup QB about a new stadium 6 years into the future is some crazy work
BRO THE CLEVELAND BROWNS DONT NEED A NEW STADIUM!!! THEY DONT DESERVE A NEW STADIUM
And Clevelanders having that same attitude 30 years ago is exactly why the Baltimore Ravens exist today. 😂
Why ask the players how the feel about the new stadium, none of them will be here in 2029
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Same with those older fans.
They love them it's not their money
myles garrett has a good chance if he stays healthy
Renovated downtown stadium would have made more sense
exactly
But that would mean no Super Bowl for Cleveland then!
Doesn't matter where you put them they suck.
The made the playoffs last year but the Deshaun Watson contract destroyed the organization
Not if you put them in Baltimore 😂
@@ecottman57 honestly, maybe just relocate the Browns again and just forever leave that organization in the past. I don’t think Cleveland fans would care as much as they did before they at least have the Cavs and Guardians
@@TimmyTheTinman football in Cleveland is dead. They should just support the Buffalo Bills or Pittsburgh Steelers.
@@boogitybear2283 good god the last thing the world needs is more Steelers fans, but it’s crazy how in 2020 we were talking about Cleveland winning there first playoff game in convincing fashion and being a respectable franchise again and it all got destroyed because of shitty coaching and poor leadership from Jimmy Haslam, and the Deshaun Watson contract to top it off
As an outsider, seems to me that Cleveland taxpayers should be happy that their Mayor wont simply throw money at a billonnaire.
The way the Browns have played they aren't worth bothering with anyway
Look at the bright side. Last time they moved to Baltimore.
Sad to see the late 90s stadiums begin to fall. First Tennessee, now Cleveland. They seem perfectly fine to me. Of course the worst of that bunch, FedEx Field, has no sunset in sight.
Denver going strong. No complaints.
Its definitely happening for Fedex Field. It just had a change in ownership two years ago. There’s a lot of talk and arguing over the location. Most are saying it will be at the old RFK site.
Owners want taxpayers to pay for billion dollar stadium instead of them paying for it
This is poor hungry Billionaires on welfare.
@@littleferrhiswould love for the commanders to go back to dc but I think it’ll likely be in VA or Maryland 🤦🏿♂️
Chicago Guy here. I drove past that huge Cleveland Stadium about 14 years ago. How old is that stadium - it doesn't seem very old.???
25 years old, built in 1999.
@@Roberto-dm8xl So just 25 and they already say it's obsolete. Unbelievable. Don't let taxpayer money build the next one. All cities should band together.
We don't tear down and build new schools after 25 years. Welfare for Billionaires is ok but building schools, well that's socialism. jk
its not old. Just another billionaires that got his billions by taking money from the 99 %ers
The city of Cleveland has filed court orders to stop this. The city has a contract that any new stadium has to be in the city of Cleveland NOT in the suburbs
Haslam is a criminal he should have never been allowed to own the team. He just made the worst deal in the history of sports only to make a serial rapist the face of the franchise. Now it's time for the next big disaster.
And the majority of Browns fans cheered on that “serial rapist “ until they realized he had lost his football skills. Says a lot about the fans.
Relax. That nonsense doesn’t help. The team has been on wobbly footing since Art ran off with the team, we retained the name, and were pressed into service to build a stadium. Browns never recovered. Look at this as a Browns Renaissance. Grasp it!
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You are the definition of modern cringe. He went to rub and tugs and got rubbed and tugged. The women only went to court to make money. They know exactly what their job is. If it wasn't their job to jerk guys off they wouldn't've did for Dashaun, especially not the amount of times reported. Absolutely pathetic how people think that's sexual assault. It's cringe but 100% consensual. If you don't want to jerk men off, don't work for rub and tugs.
Rapist?
Their team has scored 1 time in the last 29 drives. The teams problem is these owners and their management. Notice they say they are doing it for fans but then show nothing they are doing. But they do tell you they are adding a dome. They are doing this so they can get more money. These stadiums with no domes have so much history that weather itself is apart of the game. Making all stadiums dome kills the game.
Hell Randy Lerner was more of a problem than Haslam. Get over it. Modell wanted a new stadium plan. They just wanted renovation even back then. That old municipal grave cite has had it. Doom and gloom. Yes Modell had issues but damit he moved out of town and had a superbowl victory in 4 yrs in Baltimore. Be happy Jimmy's not moveing them out of state just 12 min down the road. To a bigger amusement park area. 😂. He could move out of state or even Columbus where his Crew is and build a dome at the old crew stadium off 71. Plenty of park at the fair grounds. Yes he won't be able to call them the Columbus Browns but he could bring back the Bull dogs that once was in the NFL. they have the logo. I would love to have them down here. Just remember cleveland you keep the name Cleveland Browns even if they are in Brook Park. You keep the Browns name even if they move to Columbus or move out of state. But you'll never get another chance like you did in 96 to have another NFL franchise . the NFL wants new stadiums. Plain and simple.
But he spent the money. Guaranteed 230mill to Watson so yoiu know they tried.
Crazy to think that the stadium isn't even 30 years old. I personally always liked the Browns stadium.
As long as The Browns pay for it.
Never the case though. You know as well as I do the taxpayers are always on the hook for something.
From an outsider looking in Cleveland , I’m from Detroit. But the stadium is 25 years old and looks nice , and it looks like it’s in amazing location. Why not just update the stadium and put a roof on it or retractable roof that would be cheaper than a new stadium.
Cheaper to build new stadium than try to put roof and update renovations
Because they're greedy aholes and we let them get away with it. Europe beats our ass in this respect.
Thats too logical of a suggestion.
You've got to understand, it was built as an indoor stadium. So, it would be like losing the roof on your house, exposing all the electrical, etc., which is not waterpoofed. Further, in FL, the mold growth will start within the first day without the AC. You'd have to gut/replace pretty much everything, which would almost as expensive as building a new one.
The stadium was built as an indoor? It's exposed to the elements.
Don't expect the TAXPAYERS to pay for it !
then expect the Mayflower moving trucks to pull up in the dead of night like they did in 1984 and move the team to Oklahoma City, St. Louis etc or any municipality dumb enough to pony up the money to build a mega-billion dollar stadium
They said F that Snow! ❄️🥶😂
If all these major sports teams just went out of business - I could and would still go on with my life. There are other things to do.
Or you could just get a life, move on, and quit whining about things that other people enjoy.
@@sdsmt99 < --- LOL. Has no life. :)
@@sdsmt99 < --- Has no life. LOL.
The stadium is a stunning site at the moment.....you could retro fit a roof over the stadium....
I think this is a cursed team. Red right 88, the drive, the fumble. Then the guy that fumble the ball (Byner) goes to the redskins and wins a SB. The browns released Kosar, he goes to Dallas and wins a SB as a backup. Modell moves the team to Baltimore and wins the SB. Too many coincidences
Never been to the current stadium, too pricy since their return. Been in the old Meat locker plenty of times.
And you don’t think the price will go up even higher in the suburbs. Parking will be just as high and taxes on the tickets to pay for the new stadium
I can't stand indoor football! Football is meant to be played outside!
EXACTLY ! You mean the exact point. Football is about playing outside
Its still a nice stadium. Definitely wasn't a mistake by the lake
Every 20 years teams want new stadiums.
Right it's getting out of hand
At least they'll still be in the region and not relocate like the Rams did St. Louis.
The Rams. Cleveland's first NFL franchise, which moved to Los Angeles in 1946. Eight years later, St. Louis (who would later acquire the Rams via relocation in 1995) saw a baseball team in their city move to Baltimore to become the Orioles. That team was called the Browns, as was the NFL franchise from Cleveland that moved to Baltimore four decades later, the Cleveland franchise which replaced the Rams who moved to California, who then moved to Missouri.
I know, useless trivia you probably don't care about. I just find it funny how eerily coincidental it all is. Lol.
I don't care where they go. My Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore. Model should have gotten an expansion team and condemned to a rebuilding disaster for ever.
The only era that isn't ending is the losing era.
That crazy lady talking about "home field advantage." Give me a break. How's that worked out for you since 1999?
this lady was totally right. It's about "being at home". Pay a billion dollars for a new stadium, just for "being on dome" and having trending about "look at my new stadium ?" who pay for that ?
Tired of throw a bunch of money just for having a dome stadium..
Basically no tax payers responsibility for the new one but the old stadium that’s not going to be paid off for 60 years the city has to foot the bill?
The Maras did the same thing to New Jersey.
This reminds me of when the Onion ran a video, "Cleveland bans all professional sports." "We will not let professional sports humiliate us again."
Good for them. The residents there near the stadium can now get to their driveway
Mr.Haslam can pay for the whole project!!
Isn't that exactly what Browns fans told Art Modell 30 years ago? And what happened to the Browns when they told him that?
The Browns don’t need a new Stadium this is getting ridiculous. Get ready for higher ticket prices
No matter what they do and where they go… they’ll fail. It’s the Cleveland Clowns
They made the playoffs last year but screwed over themselves with the Deshaun Watson contract
Haslam made worst trade in sports history and now he is making another horrible decision. There is not going to be a ton of events at a new dome. Detroit has maybe 20 events at their dome. The current stadium for the Browns has about 12 a year. Cleveland doesn't have the market. Not to mention it could take away events from Rocket Mortgage to further hurt downtown business.
Mayor Bibb should proceed with renovating around the stadium, keep it in place. Contract it out for concerts with rock hall or other sporting events. Heck - maybe even attract a new NFL franchise to return to Cleveland. Stick it to the Haslams and compete with them. Make him think twice before moving to Brook Park. That stadium is only 25 years old. If a new franchise came into Cleveland that was successful, it would wipe out the brook park browns.
Im from Detroit, live right near Ford Field ( covered), there were 51 events at the dome last year, its a great place, and ALL pro sports teams are a hands throw away..That was a very wise move and great for the city, restaurants, hotels, parking lots, bars and wonderful for many of us who live downtown and walk.. wish the Browns would stay downtown,, its great for the city.
@@manbtm1 How is taken away events from other arenas or venues in area? How big is the suburb for Ford field? Brook park is a small empty town near airport. It sounds like it worked out for Detroit but that is a much bigger market than Cleveland
Nashvillian and Titans fan here. At least yalls new stadium won't be the smallest in the league once it's completed. Also, get ready for season tickets to go up 3x or 4x the price you're paying now. The rich always win.
This is beyond absurd, especially when you consider the circumstance and reason they built it in the first place.
It's just a very short drive outside the city limits, just 14 miles down the road and still in the same county. About the same distance Met Life Stadium where the Giants and Jets play from New Yor City, and that's across the river in New Jersey. The 49ers play 40+ miles outside San Francisco.
Yes, but the downtown areas in those cities can survive without sports. Cleveland's downtown is very dependent on pro sports and concerts. Moving those to brook park is odd.
Now if they can leave Cleavland all together they did it once why not do it again
I used to enjoy watching the NFL in watching teams play in bad weather games, but now to host a Super Bowl a dome is pretty much required and teams no longer want to play in bad weather . Not many teams left have open stadiums and the ones that are left are turning into domes perfect example the Buffalo Bills, Tennessee, Titans, rams and chargers and now the browns . Bad weather games will soon be a thing of the past. It’s sad
Buffalo is getting a new stadium without a dome
@@ElJefe-i7r it will have an open roof to protect the fans it will be an open dome
Buffalo's new stadium is nothing close to a dome. It has an open roof, with only a partial covering of the seating. This means cold, rain, snow and wind on the field, and on many of the fans. It wouldn't have been practical for Buffalo to build a dome considering the extra engineering cost, and the fact that it is in the middle of nowhere that wouldn't attract a lot of additional events. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Cleveland either unless they have a really strong proposal for the surrounding area, but that feels boxed in by the airport, the remaining Ford engine plant and I-71.
Playing in the snow is part of the fun of football.
Not if your city wants to host events like the Super Bowl!
Brook Park renderings look NEXT LEVEL. Our team needs to upgrade their play.
Man I love how the park sits now. It’s beautiful. But it’s the old style. They all want that new look. Some kind of Mercedes Benz Stadium hybrids, or something. They are the new trend. They must have, and people absorb it and pay for it. In the face of the issues of this Country, the gluttony is sickening.
Home field advantage huh... I don't see any super bowl appearances or rings for Cleveland going into the season
Still won't change, itll still be the factory of sadness!
Baltimore is looking for a second team, the last that move there won a Superbowl
I cannot take it anymore!!! 😂😭
Football 🏈 Stadium 🏟️ is only used like 7 or 8 times. Other games are on the road.
365 - 8 =357
What will field be used for the other 357 days ❓🤷♂️
Honest Question
Not like MLB Baseball ⚾️ with the Cleveland Guardians, used a lot more.
Interesting 🥃🔥
People should forego rooting for pro teams.
Opt for a college team.
I doubt that Ohio State is ever going to leave Columbus or to go out of business.
People in Cleveland should, yes.
Let them leave the whole city. Spend that money on something that truly matters.
That Stadium is nice
The era ended when Art stole the team. This new beginning will be 30 years in the waiting.
With all due respect, please explain to me how one can "steal" something they already own. For example, Art Modell and the Cleveland Browns.
I'll concede that Modell was a terrible businessman, and that he wasn't exactly truthful with the people of Cleveland when it came to his wheelings and dealings. But he didn't "steal" anything. When Cleveland wouldn't build him a new stadium despite happily doing so for the Indians and Cavs, he moved his team to Baltimore and suckered taxpayers there into building him one instead. That's really all there is to it.
Why not the billionaire owners pay for domed stadium where they are now downtown near hotels and other attractions?
SF, not sure how this came up but, yalls stadium is fucking gorgeous to Levi's stadium....
Teams want a new stadium, build it with ur own money!
How bout winning a fucking playoff game. Cleveland doesn’t rock
FC Cleveland is coming soon.
That would be kind of cool, actually. You already have MLS teams in Cincinnati and Columbus. It would be fun to see Cleveland get in on the "Hell is Real" rivalry, since I-71 connects all three cities.
Imagine that. Ohio's three largest cities, all of which hate one another, all having a soccer team in the same league. 😂
Where are the fans who attend the games now coming from? If they all live closer to Brook Park then I can understand the move. But that's a big if.
If I had to guess, I would say that probably no more than 10% of fans in attendance at any given sold-out Browns home game actually live inside the city limits of Cleveland.
The rest of them come in from the suburbs of Cuyahoga and the other counties, as well as other nearby cities such as Akron-Canton, Youngstown, and Erie, Pa. And to a lesser extent, you can probably throw Columbus and Toledo in there as well. On top of that, you can also account for whatever fans come to Cleveland to support the visiting team, especially whenever the Steelers come to town.
The owners are paying for it? Really? If this is true. Why can't Chicago get a stadium built?
Because the owners aren't REALLY paying for it. It is just a tag line like that overpriced LA thingy.
Because the owners of the Chicago Bears (the McCaskey family ) don’t want to pay for a stadium. They want the taxpayers and tourists of Chicago to pay for it.
The lake front will be developed, the new stadium is 15 min away from the old one in the same county. All good to me. Cleveland has to get the crime under control downtown and through out the city.
Like two NFC North teams Vikings & Lions have their AC stadium. I guessing some Browns fans wanted have AC stadium too
Live in Cleveland. Michelle's phone.
As Chris Christie said to the NJ Nets "Good Riddance."
And it didn't hurt New Jersey one bit, either. They still have the Devils, as well as the two "New York" NFL teams.
I'm very upset about this Move
Go Bengals
Good! i hate parking in cleveland for a game pain in the a$$!!
Love the Browns, does that mean the city does not have to pay???? Will they start to win games????????
Chicago Bears play the Brookpark Browns.???
That’s my question
All of this new stadium crap just so a lot of us idiots can say - "WE Won Today".!!!
Good Cleveland fans don’t deserve the browns
The Michelle lady is terrible 😂
Lmao she was awful like an imposter.
Right? Make a cue card if you can’t remember your 3 lines. Nobody wants to see you stumble reading your notes app.
What Cleveland should do is honor Haslem's study showing the revenue created with a new downtown stadium year over year. What the mayor should add to it is; every year the target revenue is not reached Haslem should pay the difference back to the Cleveland coffers.
City of Cleveland should have the leverage with keeping the Browns in city limits, I remember a few years back the Triple Crown Preakness venue was trying to move out of Baltimore, MD and into Laurel, MD. City of Baltimore had leverage over the State of MD, even thought Pimico Raceway is not in a welcoming part of town, surrounded with residential housing and no event parking.
Did they just build the current stadium..its only 20 yrs old, right? Thats relatively new imo.
You have to love when the billionaire didn't get enough handouts to stay trying to spin it as doing a community service for the fans. Please.
They said the mayor is trying to do everything he can in negotiations to keep the stadium in Cleveland, I sure hope he doesn't do like the homeless guy in Menace to Society did for that cheeseburger.
Be a little less dangerous hanging out after the games 🎉
Question does the baseball team need any renovations? That stadium is about 5 years older than Cleveland Browns Stadium or whatever it’s called.
Owners making a decision. I cannot blame the city they actually tried to make a better spot unlike the city of Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego.
It must sucks to have the haslams has your football owners 😂
The current stadium is 25 years of losing. Move to a new site. Build a dome. Try and host the city a superbowl and make the new building multi-purpose and convention friendly. That’s additional revenue for the Haslam family.
Pittsburgh will kick their ass no matter what suburb they play in.
The same goes for the Bengals and Ravens.
lol the Steelers have been going down hill the last coping years. Remember the browns beat your ass the last couple years. Also they beat you in the playoffs.
@@JMAN97712You're 4 - 13 - 1 against the Steelers in the last decade, skippy.
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A literal Factory of Sadness.
49ers and Cowboys also don't play in there cities
Neither do the Bills, Dolphins, Giants, Jets, Chargers, Rams, and Commanders.
In the cases of the Arizona and Minnesota teams, they use the state they're located in as opposed to an individual city within it. And then you have the Patriots, who effectively represent six entire states as opposed to just one city and play their home games out in the middle of nowhere an hour from Boston.
Maybe the UFL can put a team there? The weather would be better during their season anyway.
Mud,snow, rain…grit and smash football. That was the Cleveland way. Now we’re going to get a cushy, perfect 72 degree indoor dome 🤮. Should change the orange and brown to pink and yellow. Wtf Cleveland
How many games a year do you go to?
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15 min away? Who cares
Browns still the Browns.
The Browns are in Baltimore. They're called the Ravens now!
Move back to Baltimore. I hear it's lovely this time of year.
Forget a new stadium, let them relocate. Jesus, hasn't Cleveland suffered enough with this shambles of a franchise, either versions, since the late 1980's?
I am sad for downtown Cleveland. Great cities need great urban cores. Downtowns are unique in culture and architecture. Who needs more "urban sprawl" boring cities.
Very disappointing. I attended a few Steelers games in the old Cleveland stadium in the early 90s and loved the lakefront, cold weather and fan atmosphere. I like all the Rust Belt teams. I'm an old school fan, which includes playing outdoors. Can't imagine watching the Browns in a dome...ughhhh!
Cleveland Browns 🐕
It is too bad a new stadium with a dome couldn't be built on the lake front.
Well think of it this way now Cleveland will now be able to host events like the Super Bowl and the Final Four!
Where's Michael White? That mayor wasn't having it. He saved your team. Hell your stadium should be called "The Michael White Sports and Entertainment Complex "
I’m not even a Browns fan but this is ridiculous. As if Art Modell betraying the city wasn’t enough, now the current owners are doing it. What the hell is wrong with their current stadium? Maybe they need to focus on finding a real QB
NOT SO FAST!!!! THE COURT STILL HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS!!
How do you "move the stadium"? You mean build a new stadium?
The era won't end until '28
Just let the Browns move. Downtown Cleveland can always turn the stadium into something else.🤔
A new stadium would cost easily over $1 billion. big-ticket project.