Let's talk about TRAINING!! // Training our Suffolk Punch Draft Horse to Drive!
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2022
- Today we are talking about training as we work with our Suffolk Punch draft horse, Baron. Jim has Baron hitched up with our Percheron horse, Ken, and he is training Baron to drive! Jim shares the way that he trains horses to drive, and gives some tips on training draft horses!
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I used to have coonhounds and when training I tried to keep it short working with a trustworthy old dog and keep the sessions short and tried to end on a good note with them wanting more! See a lot of things in common with the way you train your horses!
I agree, we do the same with Fox Hounds. We call it coupling. Have a wonderful day. England UK
Baron is doing really well Ken is the wise old soul see it all and done it all. They do work well together. Another excellent video love watching Baron on his journey to be a work horse
... old soul. I like this ...
Baron is doing so wonderful under Jim's steady pace!! Blessings!
Love the way baron bows his neck . He is such a handsome boy
Thank you Jim and Brenda👍 and big thank you to Ken!
Ken has a beautiful head, especially with the cropped mane.
Baron is doing good, he's keeping the evener straight! Could of been the chain noise! Good job, Baron!! Good job , Jim!! Brenda, Baron deserves an Apple!!
Beautiful hardware on the horses.
So glad how well he is doing with you Jim. He is learning the terms of left and right and others
Hi,Jim.
I mentioned to my wife your statement of not doing heavy work with Baron till 4 years old.She has owned horses and cows and gave a big shout out to you!
Yeah the spine isnt fully set. Got a Shire mare that JUST got to the point she can support me for a long time. At 3yo. I started getting on her because im the lightest. No saddle , no matt so I can feel her smallest movement. Anytime Id feel her back move the slightest bit lower Id get off immediatly. No trot, just a few steps or standing. First few time it was a minute or two before I felt the signs. Last week, she held me as long as I wanted. She's 3.5yo Some evil people breed them at 3yo once they get to 17hh, the lower limit of the breed. It's like a 14yo girl having a kid. If her back cant support 150lbs, it shouldnt support a 250lbs foal, or pull thousand of lbs. She's still growing and currently 17hh, hoping for a 18hh eventually.
Nice to have a calm horse to help train.
Your sled reminds me of my Oklahoma childhood in the 40s. My Poppa farmed with two Draft horses. I remember riding the sled as Poppa went down to the farm pond, called a tank, to fill barrels with water. I suppose it was to water the livestock..
He is gone now and I am 81 but I really enjoy your Draft animals. Our neighbor farmed with two red mules, Blue Boy and Dynomite.
Tanks.
Not too many folks away from Oklahoma and Texas know that term. I call them tanks and folks get the most puzzled look on their face.
Training horses demands patience and repetition so that routines are developed, as you demonstrate. The only thing I would differently is when training a young horse, I would get him used to working without blinders which inures him against any surprises. When you watch the Oktoberfest Parades in Munich, Bavaria, you'll see that all the draft horses in front of the beer wagons work without blinders, despite the din, the flags, the high decorations, etc. When I logged in Bavaria I could even pull down trees that got hung up in other trees and my horses wouldn't mind to see those trees crashing down behind them.
Very cool! Thank you for sharing 👍
YES. No blinders. My shire doesnt fear shit. 3 years pulling her in different situation and nope. Best I can get is a half second freeze. That's all she spooks. She has seen so many new things, and none of them hurt her. So all the new stuff she just shrug it off. Confident as fuck. Had a small opening between trees I was checking out. I had her on least. When she saw I was pushing foliage around to see throught she must have thought I wanted to go through. She came behind me and stuck her head where I was, lifted and broke 3 tree limbs the size of my arm like an absolute unit. I pulled her through now that she both could.
I feel blinders were just meant to hide underlying issues back in the days. Those days changed, we dont train and raise horses the same way.
Well, it's been decades since I've been hands-on with horses, but from what I remember it looks to me like your training methods are working just fine. The proof is in the pudding.
You do a wonderful job explaining and would make a great teacher!
Good job, I don't know if you show all the training of Baron ,but the horse is incredibly smart. He learn so fast and is so calm. Keep up the good work and you'll have a good horse. It is a pleasure to watch a horse and trainer so calm when anything could go wrong.
Ken said, "Harness that rookie with me, I'll teach him a thing or two." So interesting to watch the training process of a young colt. Brenda and Jim, thanks so much for sharing with us.
I was wondering if you still used leather lines. I wouldn't want anything else. I'm not sold on synthetic harness. I know you don't want harness to break, but like halters, you also don't want it to NOT break if the horse is trapped and panicking. If I had to use synthetic harness, I would still want strategic parts to be leather, like lines, throatlatches, and probably girths or saddles as well.
I trained my horses pretty much the same as you are, listening very closely to the horse, and individualizing the training to that individual colt as you are. I have had that one that was so easy that he was green broke in two days, and I have some that have taken months to get to the same stage. Temperment plays a huge role, and I never had a purebred draft horse. I had one who was roughly 3/4s Belgian, and she was one of the hardest ones I ever fooled with, but her dam was a bit nuts and had been spoiled to the point of being mean by a woman before I got her, and she had no respect for women. Most of what I was fooling with was some part Saddlebred, Kentucky Mountain Saddle Horse, or Tennessee Walking Horse. Most of those breeds had been bred for being a general all-around farm chore horse/buggy horse/saddle horse and could do more work that you'd think.
That was a near catastrophe. That was how my only real runaway happened. I was hooking my team to a sledge like yours, and one started while I was hooking the tugs. I hollered whoa, and my little gal stopped, but the aforementioned mare that hated women refused to stop, which turned the team into a hot wire fence. Then all hell broke loose. They pulled out a half mile of barbed hot wire, wrapped it around the sledge, and took off for the back side of the field where, thankfully, the pin fell out of the clevis and they left the sledge and barbed wire behind, ran back up through the hole they'd made in the fence, headed down the driveway and ran into the bale yard, where they finally stopped. Thankfully, no one got hurt.
The most important thing when a colt gets spooked like that is self control. If you get nervous with them, it becomes a downward spiral. The more they spook the more you spook and the more you spook the more they spook. If you get calmer and more soothing the more upset they get, you can usually get them to calm down too. You are very good at that, and he wasn't afraid at all the second time around. Were the guineas in the garden? Some of the worst spooks I have had have come from birds. Turkeys are really good at making horses lose their minds.
He is a really nice horse. I'm getting a little jealous. :) Yeah, I know we aren't supposed to covet, and I don't.
good story today,,,we think he got nervous on the turning when the pole touched his leg, thinking maybe it was Ken...not sure
Thanks for the story, glad everything worked out ok. Haha, yes, we really like him too!
🇺🇸🇵🇷🇵🇪😎Glad to see it is cooling down up in the north country. Here in Florida we are hot and preparing for the Hurricane. 🌬Love your channel 🐴🐴,keep working the young one..
Hope the hurricane isn’t as bad as Fiona.
Jim, I think you’re actually an excellent teacher. Your straightforward, knowledgeable, always give reasons why you do things a certain way and you also mention alternative methods. I think your directness (rather than using 1000 words to say the same thing) is what makes you effective. Same goes for Brenda… she asks questions that your audience might be thinking even if she is already know the answer.
Teaching others something that you know reinforces it for yourself because it forces you to speak, formulate words and get thoughts out of your head and allows you to think about steps you ordinarily perform without much thought or effort.
Well said.
Jim's attitude also is a big part of his style, Jim is not on his..
"High horse". Alot better than some of my college instructors, for sure.
Some of the Best Surgeons I have worked with, are the ones that keep it simple and practical, straightup black and white, and not trying to impress you with fancy words or way .
(Real vs Fake). Thank you.
Keep the Faith
Franco G - I agree with your comment about Brenda !! I like the way she poses questions to Jim on behalf of the viewers. They're questions that I want answers to, as well !! I love their channel - so informative for a "city boy" like me !! Ha, Ha !! Have a wonderful day, my friend.
well done ol son---you folks are a pleasure to watch!!!
Enjoy your videos. May the Lord bless and protect you and your family and the animals
Sweet, gentle Ken, he is so good to help you train Baron. Any mistakes Baron makes, Ken is so well trained and knows how to help Baron do well. It did scare me when Baron thought he needed to take off when first hitched to the cart. My heart stopped for a second. And whatever spooked him a little when he got in sight of the ladders was a little scary. I was afraid he would try to bolt. He's doing really well though no longer than you've been working with him! He is such a beauty. I just love watching him❤
It's amazing to see some one a fraction of the horses weight , push them around. Just goes to show how gentle and willing they are.
Thumbnails are wonderful things when they don't. If you get a stubborn one, use your thumbnail and they will quickly decide that yes, they can move over.
You can also teach them lateral movements. Only takes a few day. It's not like a dog, horses learn very quickly. We stand in front and look at their butt, lean our body to one side and theyll move their butt accordindly.
Thank you both husband and wife with horses .
Esther: from Toledo Ohio
'Kefflestep' Jim. 🤭🤭🤣😂
Thnx for the gr8 content you provide.
My father broke horses all his life and one thing we always did that you don't do is keep the Colt tied to the old horse in case he gets startled he can't get away you keep the rope tied to the ring on Ken's hame lose enough you drive him but short enough it holds him if he tries to run or rare works real well for us if you break a horse that does rare you use the lower ring where the breast strap is that holds him down when he tries to rare but a horse like Baron just use upper ring where line goes through (run rope through this ring up around hame and tie off works best) sure does help if you have one that wants to run.
great advice, I have done that some.
Baron seems to be doing well and I am really enjoying the training videos!
Don’t say you’re not a good teacher, Jim. I was an educator for almost 40 years. I taught several years and then became an administrator. I hired, evaluated and supervised several hundred teachers in my career. I know a good teacher when I see them. Look at your results.
The planning, direction, patience,caring and calmness you show in training your horses are a pleasure to observe. Many of the skills and traits you use with your horses are used by good teachers in their classroom every day.
thank you, Henry
Nice job. Thanks
Hello watching from Dubai
Nice job for sure and the horses did very well.
Thanks 👍
I am enjoying these training videos. Thank you for showing when things don't go as smoothly for a young colt and for explaining the importance of having an experienced horse. I am a 71 yr old "city slicker" and have never been around horses. I am fascinated by your draft horses personalities and work ethic. They are exceptional workers and indispensable. Also, I enjoy watching the closeness of your relationships as a couple, as parents, as business partners, as neighbors, and most importantly your relationship with Jesus Christ. By the way, thanks for showing the video with Lady's foal. Seeing the foal takes my breath away in awe.
Jim you are a natural teacher. Never doubt it. Droning on is not teaching. Show how you do what you do. Because it works is reason enough. You anticipation of problems and planning is wisdom only you and your years can give. Priceless.
You are a good teacher Jim and a very good trainer .I so enjoy watching how the horses react too you and your commands. Barren is such a teenager when it comes too listening and falling in line ! 😄
The size difference between Ken and Barron is just amazing. Barron still has so much more growing to do.
New leather lines! They will soften quicker and last longer if you dress them with Pears Soap. Damp sponge, no suds, and work it in. Being soap it takes the dirt out, hydrates the leather, as it dries the glycerine stays in. Been using nothing else for 55 years, also boots, leather upholstery, handbags. Be a nice job for Brenda. My 1976 saddle is still in show condition, and it has done a lot of work.
I always use Pears soap !
@@pamelawoodall5891 In about 1965 I was 17, sitting in a Ladies Mount Rider and Equipment Class, just been awarded ribbon for second place, judge gone on down the line putting on lesser ribbons. The one in first place was older and better than me, we were acquainted, she rightfully won everything, this kid was happy to be second. I asked her what she used on her gear. Pears Soap. I soon figured out how.
Pears Soap, that's what my sister used on her leather, i'm sure there are other good products out there but, I still remember the container..
I was just a little squirt..
You are the best teacher 🎉
Well done Baron Gordon of Moira.
haha
Barons mane is not roached …yet. Brenda is winning…so far.
I have used baler twine, on inside ring of britching.
Jim and Brenda great video . Really like to watch you both train and work the horses. They are are all right you are very good teacher
So awesome!
love watching the videos to see JIm's knowledge and to see Baron in training. Cant wait to see how Baron and lady work together
I might
Jim. I would like your opinion. With Baron being still a stud is it just a little bit harder to train him. I think maybe I have found it a little easier to keep their mind on training after they have been Castrated. This is just my opinion, I know you want to keep him stud for a while But do you agree or disagree.
Right now, it doesn't seem to be affecting his training much
We live and learn. Thank you for sharing.🐴🐴
Baron hat schon viel gelernt,klasse..👏👏😊👍
Thank you for posting this video it is good to watch Barton’s progress.
Love all the working with Baron. Can’t wait to see some with the other colt’s
Love the colts! Their growth amazing. Cant wait to see them at maturity
Us too!
I sometimes use a short strap from the O ring to 0 ring where the britchen attaches. This keeps the young horse from swinging his butt out. After the team is hitched to the implement I take it off until it is time to unhitch.
A lot of people do that. I might have done it before but I don't generally do it. I don't usually have much trouble with that.
Hey, the more we do something the better we get at it!
I would sort of agree with that. I have seen some folk make a career out falling off and or falling out and not listening to instructions.
In a thousand words or less, Keep up doing what you do> I enjoy it thoroughly.
I am listening to your commands, my question is - What are your commands? I heard gee - right, kas up - go, ho - stop. Is that right? One more thing. Why does Barron play with his bit? I am a couch potato that wishes she was still young enough to start horses. I grew up on a back road with farms all around. Lately, that back road has gone from abandoned farms to the Amish moving in. At my old age, I am still learning and you are teaching me. Ha, ha
Careful step, forward Whoe ,stop ,Gee and Haw, left and right Back for back .Jim s horses understand his Vermont English very well . Us humans do not have too .Bit just getting used to it .
Amish putting our abandon farms back into production in our area as well .Nice to see.
Another great video. Your experience and calmness prevented what could have been a disaster. It'll be interesting how he'll be on the other side. Thanks for sharing.
Baron seems is getting better each video! Jim I think you are a great teacher. I’ve learned so much from you! Thank you!
GREAT VIDEO ! Thanks. Ken is a good man. Cool and calm. Good company for Baron. ???? Not that I know what I am talking about, I thought I heard a loose shoe coming out of the barn. To me, Baron would look as handsome as Ken with a buzz cut. Perhaps Baron finds it difficult to concentrate on his lessons with hair in his eyes. Perhaps.
Haha, yes a haircut might help
Thank you for editing out parts of this training!!! watched it twice I loved it so much. Beautiful horses
Good evening Jim and Brenda, maybe Barron got nervous with the ladders as he could only see with one eye ... the other was completely covered in his main 😊 never the less Barron is doing good and yes he will have the odd hiccup....he's young and learning,and the big boy are helping him alot.So very interesting to watch thankyou both.All the very best dear friends 🌱🌱🌱💕
Hi Joyce, yes we are pleased with his progress. Take care!
So glad we discovered your channel. My wife's dad farmed with horses.
Thanks for watching!
A very good video and Jim, you are a excellent teacher of horse work. I have learned so much from you.
Well done 👏 never see no one do this. Nice Jim .
Alway something new to learn. ❤ When will you train the other colts?
Thank you for sharing.🐴
Well done Baron enjoyed the video have a day love from TEXAS
Glad you enjoyed it
Same here. When first breaking horses to drive, we'd hook them to a wagon, drive for 2 or 3 miles round trip. If they seemed extra rowdy, we'd use enough weight in the wagon to slow them a bit. Always walked them, never at a trot. My dad always said a collar around their neck was the best tool. Lol.
You mentioned once about the danger of a line or something coming unhooked. Saw that once. A line snap came unwrapped from the bridle from the horse throwing his head. Fortunately my uncle snapped it back before Duke found his chance. Working horses was a totally enjoyable experience.
Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks for sharing!
Baron seems to not be too fussy about his bit...how long does it take for the younger ones to get used to it? Love your herd! The most beautiful workers I've ever seen. TFS...made my day.
ours toooooo
The more he works, the sooner he will get used to it
great video. i love watching draft horses.
Watched this again and saw new stuff. like the changing the strap. Good work you guys
Your training videos are very interesting.
I have never seen silos with tops/covers on them such as yours. It appears that perhaps a tornado deposited chicken coops on them (ha!).
Haha!
Great place for outdoor Christmas. Lights.
Thank you for sharing a small window of your day.
Could you hook a strap from shoulder to shoulder and hip to hip while moving them unhitched for now, until Baron learns to stand while being hitched?
I love the sound the horses hooves make when they walk
Nice work. He is coming along well. Admire your patience
Very informative video thanks for sharing !!
Sure footed Brenda she is so fast and reliable as a wife and camera woman.🧡🧡🧡🧡
That was a good video clip 👌,, love the training off Baron , he's looking good and training ok , thanks Brenda, Jim look forward to the next video 📹
Love to see your videos...Baron is of great interest...I wonder more about his history.
Great video, exciting, great job !
You just answered my question. When will they switch sides . You are the best I’ve seen at mix and match and mixing sides etc . Very good to be able to use different scenarios if ever needed!! Just sayin
great fun to watch have A great day we are dry in Tecumseh Ks. need some rain to go in to winter .
Your Suffolk punches are very well built. You’ll soon have another awesome team!!!
You do an amazing job Brenda 👏
Hello Jim, Brenda, Ken and Baron.
Baron was dancing a little when he thought he saw or heard something he didn’t like. He recovered from it very well.
It. Could be his confusion over the difference in weight with the much free'r running cart.. he's a little anxious still.
As I said before YOU do a very good job explaining
Baron is still not fully accepting the bit, I thought at one stage, he was trying to get his tongue over ..hope his mouth is healing...🤞 but he's doing well - what a sweety ..
Very interesting.
When my dad was a young man in the thirty’s training wild mustangs from the west. He would hook a wild one with a reliable one as you do, but would tie a rope to the front foot of the young one. If they broke free of his control, he would pull on the rope to put the wild one on its nose. He had a lot better results than his mean brother!
Ken is so chilled out! He’s a well trained horse. Baron is gonna make a good one also! Training anything is like eating an elephant, take it one bite at a time! lol
Baron doesn't look too comfortable in his mouth. What kind of bit is he wearing.
Do you oil the leather harness occasionally to keep it supple.
This was fascinating to me as a teacher. It's really not much different from classroom teaching, being that the main factor in learning is developing trust. I enjoyed this video as always 💕🐎
Yep pretty much the same,, as Jim driving these 1 Ton! animals for what over 40 years now.
Yep, thats comprible.
Come on...Respect to Jim and Brenda, there are very few that do what you do and,,...only you this way. Thank You, Glory to God. Jim and Brenda....Respect.
We appreciate you and this great channel.
Thanks Jim. Nice video Brenda
Thanks to Jim saying careful step, I find myself saying that to my oversized 125# German Shepherd who has arthritis in his his hips. He slides around and slips when on hard surfaces.
Very nice
Hey,you should do a contest to see who can guess the first ❄️.
Halloween nite
Prize would be a scoop of snow .
well mannered stud
Good video, God Bless