Review: Behringer Neutron Semi-Modular Analog Synthesizer
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2018
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Wow Ive gotta agree with everyone else here - these are some of the best sounding Neutron patches I've heard yet. I don't know how you managed to make the low-pass filter sound that good, actually. Every time I use mine, as soon as the resonance gets near that self-oscillation threshold it sounds nasty and shrill, and not in the good way that you want from a resonant filter. I am a big fan of the oscillators, envelopes, and various secondary submodules it provides. Basically everything about besides the filter and LFO (which dedicates too much of its range to audible frequency for my taste). But after watching this, methinks perhaps I just don't know how to use this bad boy to its fullest yet!
Thanks! Here are a few general things I’ve been doing:
1) Set tone to 12 o’clock for most stuff, higher for percussion, and usually a *little* overdrive, even for cleaner sounds. That adds a bit of saturation for warmth.
2) The envelopes on the Neutron are some of the fastest I’ve ever used when set to zero. On most synths, you can often set it to zero and it’s fine, but I found I usually had to back off at least a hair to avoid popping.
3) The filter response is nonlinear and has uneven sweet spot locations. For most of the sounds, it took a bit of searching around to find the perfect setting for cutoff and resonance - sometimes a tiny difference separates an okay sound from a great one.
4) The key tracking button on the filter is 100%, but I found I usually got better rresults by patching tracking myself, and set to around 60-80%, to get the best sound across the whole range.
@@insidesynthesis Great tips, thanks! I actually like the envelopes specifically because they're slower than the almost-unusably-fast envelope on another semi-modular unit I often include in patches, the Pittsburgh Modular SV-1. I prefer playing riffs on keys (then potentially looping midi recordings of that later) over straight sequencing right from jump, and envelopes have actually become a make-or-break critical component in a modular synth for me. I think I get more excited about envelopes than even filters lately, just because it seems somewhat uncommon to find a good, highly playable ADSR in the eurorack space. Most envelopes are simple AD or ASR, and too often ADSRs don't seem to accentuate the bands that are optimal for playing keys in their response curves, so their sweet spots are islands that have to be precisely dialed in. But from the looks of things, you've surely spent more time with your Neutron than I have with mine, and from this video I can see you know how to tickle some ivories, so I very much respect your opinion on these matters.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. You've inspired me to play around with the ol Neutron some more, thanks again for the tips!
@@insidesynthesis The popping happens on my Minilogue as well. I just increase the attack until it's gone. Thanks for the tips! This is next on my list for my first synthesizers, my first (and currently only) being the Korg Minilogue. Great video btw!
Update: I now own the Minilogue, Novation Circuit, Volca Sample + FM + Modular + Mix, Wavestation EX, Casio CZ-101, and Korg Monotron Delay. Still no Neutron yet. I'm either gonna get one that's B-Stock, or buy a Meeblip Anode and a Bastl Kastle.
Yes they are. other guys seem to keep their settings to be TOP SECRETS. i a, a SUBSCRIBERES!
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I really like your content, nice to see someone not just making random noise, but in control with a synth, please make more videos on neutron : )
Awesome review. Very fair and alot of good points. I almost forgotten you did that how to turn your ms2000 into a drum machine way back. Your voice brought me right back to when I was trying to do it.
Great review here and in general! I really appreciate your work.
some of the best patches ive heard on this honestly
My favorite review of this so far. Good Werk ;)
I had a Neutron for a while and took it back. I'm a noob and found microKorg easier to understand.
I've been watching tons of videos and reviews on hardware and software synths. This video is one of the best i've seen. Good job. You should have a million subscribers.
Thanks for sharing. I found your review of the Neutron to be one of the best in terms of showing its features and capabilities.
Excellent demo . . . good examples of various patches and how they can be applied.
Has the sound quality and variations usually found with much pricier synths.
Very nice review and great sounding patches, but have to say, from 0:12 to 0:32, you got me hooked up and had this listening on a loop for dozen of minutes long. So nice, so pleasant for my ears. Thank you for sharing this with us. All the best!
Damn... great playing, great patch demonstrations, great evaluation, great video! I rarely subscribe to a channel based on the strength of a single video, but this is one of the exceptions. You are quite obviously criminally under-subbed.
I was on the edge of ordering a Bastl Kastle and a Meeblip Anode, rewatched this, and did a total 180 and realized why the Neutron is #1 on my wishlist. I'm ordering it right this minute lol, thank you!
Now i really want one my self 😊 great sounds you made on
You got the like for calling it ugly. I think it's beautiful and sounds gorgeous!
Great review!
The look is growing on me. My biggest issue is that the contrast between the red and the white type isn't the greatest, and the crossing lines under the patch bay don't help (particularly under certain lighting).
@@insidesynthesis Checkout OverSynth. I am currently umming and ahhing between the model d and the neutron and the look of the neutron was one of the main things putting me off the oversynth skins fix that (hopefully they will post it to me in the UK).
Now I want one.. some great patches in there
Seriously appreciate this video, new to moduler. Found it very helpful in learning how to use mine.
Creative usage. Thank you.
I loved the Korg DSS-1 synth. Great filters. Of course, the disk drive was the 1st thing to go on it.
I had one many years ago. It was so heavy.
Awesome review. I enjoy my Neutron so much. Its getting as much attention as my Minilogue xd. and I haven,t tried to use it to modulate the mini xd yet!!
YAYYYYY!!! YOU'RE BACK!!!
Having a Neutron, BSP and MiniBrute 2S. Agreed. :)
I mostly use VST or Auv3 synths although I do own a Moog Little Phatty but it looks like I’ll be buying this as well. I like the video and it’s good to see someone demo a synth by actually playing a keyboard, not just twiddling knobs and making noises.
very informative Video, thanks!
Nice sounds
Man that sounds so good I listened to it twice! Currently looking to get a used one (I never buy musical instruments new).
WoW, the best demo of Behringer Neutron!
Stones from Ultima at 4:42 RuLeZ!!
Thank you!!!
best demo of sound I've seen yet on UA-cam. I would like to buy a DeepMind, but just don't trust Behringer's dependability yet. Will be waiting for long term reviews on all Behringers synths.
Believe me...I own Neutron, Model D and the Crave and had money left over for a Deepmind 12d YOU WANT ONE!
@@urbannpa How old and how much use do your synths get. Every day, once a week, a month? How many years have you owned them. I unfortunately discovered not a single Behringer product I have purchased survived more than 3 years.
This is one of the videos that made me buy one of these 👍and it’s a keeper ....
Any chance you could post pics of the patches please
welcome back!
Great video!
overlays for this thing are kinda a must. the fugly-ness kinda forces you to get one, which means everyones neutron is somewhat unique
wow, it sounds pretty good tbh
Really great demo, and great playing/programming too!
It's amazing how Behringer has changed their business model and are now offering great synths and drum machines at reasonable prices! Less focus on their cheep mixers and what hardware musicians are demanding more of... ANALOG classics!
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Best sound examples I've heard yet. Just ordered one after watching this video. I've been hanging off because nothing on You tube sounded that great except sonic states review. I think it sounds a little like the MS20 at times. well done.
MS-20's filter (it's clone actually) isn't bass compensated. With Neutron you don't loose low freq-s with high resonance... But I've found that it can do clipping (unwanted) if the resonance is over 50%. It can be avoided if you're routing it without the Overdrive but takes patch points and need cables (obviously).
I actually like the way the Neutron looks. And It's not black, white or gray like everything else.
Works nicely with the Korg SQ-1 - especially as Behringer have got MIDI + sequencer interaction right (unlike almost everyone else since MIDI came along - yes I'm looking at you Roland JP-08 ...I see Kijiji in your future). Looking forward to the Crave for 32 step sequencing.
good to see you are making videos again
indeed great video! i love the explanation of the patches. maybe you cloud do more of this sound building videos on this synth?
Unstoppable, awesome, fabulous, magnificent...is it clear that I own one yet?
Agree with you about the filter, those harmonics on the resonant sweep are very sh101 like. Nice patches btw. I'm really looking forward to getting this synth, watch the sonic state interviews with the behringer engineers, they're clearly talented passionate guys and feels to me this synth was a bit of a vanity, see what you can build for $300, kind of project. Yes it does sound a bit rough and ready, but isn't that what we want from analog gear?
Great review. I've got an Arturia MiniBrute 2 and am considering getting a Neutron as they have a similar form factor, width, controls on the left, patchbay on the right, and their features compliment each other as if they were designed to link up. Could you please do a video where you match your Neutron and MiniBrute to see how they go together?
Best sounding DEMO of this unit. Most people just try to get murdered and make sounds that drive me crazy when they do synths demops. Thank you!
This synth is a beast. Seems a bit like a mixture between pro one and ms20, doesn't it? Great sounding samples and exploration. Thanks for sharing :)
Heh, nice sounds, but even better Ultima reference ;)
WHUT IZ LOVE, sold me!
I teared up, man
@1:04 That mini-moog oscillator drive
THANKS! kool
out of the new budget Behringer synths I like this one best and you can buy skins for it so it's not ugly!
Good tip
I have a question. If the neutron and its midi / gate output are to be inserted into the pitch of the oscillator, it would work?
I suppose it's possible to connect 2 units together and share the patching between them.
3:16 The moment you find that sweet spot and just let it play out. Happy accidents rule.
6:40 ? But that’s the end of the video.... oh. :-(
@@insidesynthesis I fixed my op 3:16 is the moment I was referring to. No disrespect intended. Another of life's accident. Maybe not so happy. The counter reset to the end??? Proves I enjoyed the entire video at least.
Ah, that makes sense. I figured it was likely the FM bit. I like that sound I found - it’s almost like an electric guitar with an e-bow.
3:50....Martyn Ware would be proud
2:00 Wow, Black Mass Lucifer flashback! :D
Che figata
4:54 baby don't hurt me
No more
get an overlay, not cheap but makes it look really better.
4:43 Ultima!!!
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Can you just manipulate any sound in the Korg's sound bank, with the Neutron? Just trying to figure out how it works. Thanks
There's no denying that this thing sounds good.
it is :) its different and i love the patchbay... but i still refuse modular ;D dont have the money to start ;D but i think i need one or two modules for adding to the neutron
@@F-Andre you don't have to, you can go with Minibrute 2s, Pittsburgh Microvolt and Liveforms, 0-Coast, anything from Dreadbox etc. ;) they all will be the best friends
#behringer neutron is a beast - a little classic - wait for the soon to be released #proton ;-)
Very nice demo. Is the sound coming out of this synth monophonic? If yes, how can you make it sound stereophonic? Thanks.
There isn't a way to make it stereo with just the Neutron, but you could run it through an external stereo effect processor, like chorus, delay, or reverb.
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Is the part beginning at 2:20 FM synthesis part 2?
How you connect the Neutron with a sound card? Impossible for me to have a sound in my speakers!
Sounds great! But you're right about it being one of the "fugliest" synths. It's probably the only synths I'm considering getting an overlay for, sticks out like a sore thumb and is kinda distracting from my sequencer.
It's a great little synth. It's Behringer so you instinctively want to hate on it. Then you realized that they did they homework and actually put out a great product... two of them actually including the Boog. I heard that the Deep Mind is a great value as well. I think surface mount automated circuit boards have taken some very labor intensive costs of manufacturing and shrunk the cost, time, and overall physical electron path through components. The cost has come down so much that independent boutique companies can afford to design and manufacture very complicated electronic instruments and components that were unattainable by anyone other than those with huge staffs of laborers.
You're right about SMT cost reduction and I would also say quality. Component reliability, PCB stability, board population, waveflow doldering, burn-in, testing are all processes which are in a different universe now that a few decades ago. The critical success factor is now design. Brand opposition can be overcome in time. Just ask Toyota and Honda, Samsung and LG.
People learn, organisations improve and if they don't they rely on bullshit to maintain their position.
Now that the Minibrute 2s is 399, this is a harder choice!
I think it looks awesome, why do ppl think it’s ugly
He’s back :)
Nice sounds. Can someone tell me how i get a clean record from my neutron (on headphones sounds good) but using the output to my mpc touch (audio jacks. There are two) it become unclean scratchy. Do i need a DI unit? Or better Audio Cable?
I hated it when I first got it. It felt cheap. But I love it for that reason and it’s potential. Im matching up the right template for it. No regrets. Behringer is doing big things
im just wearing gucci pants to feel more expensive when i playing neutron.
Hi! I only have a question: Through the MIDI, Neutron can be programmed entirely?
Nope - MIDI/USB can affect some internal settings, but the main synth stuff is done manually.
I really wonder why FMing one oscillator with the other seems to be aliasing like crazy.... Shouldn't analog synths alias at all?
There's definitely some aliasing from UA-cam's compression, but there are also complex sidebands created from FM that exist in analog or digital. I'm not sure which one you're referring to. But in person-without UA-cam's compression-it sounds very analog FM to me.
Fugly? It's awesome looking!
You can buy some awesome overlays for it tho, since its look itsn't to your taste.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . . . But the overlays on Gearslutz are awesome
if it was white not red it would look pimping...
artao5 I agree!!! Fugly?!? How dare you!! 🤣😂🤣😂
It looks like a hybrid synth from 2003. The design is incredibly ugly
I hate red, and even I don't think the Neutron is fugly at all. It looks like a red Mother-32 or Behringer Model D, who cares, your listeners don't hear colors.
First thing I noticed was the DSS-1. I had one new out of the box in 1987 only to have my ex wife talk me into selling it at one of her ridiculous yard sales sometime in the mid 2000’s because it was “just sitting around”. UGGGG. I could kick myself for agreeing to that!!! 😫
The key word there is “ex-wife”.
Indeed!
The look doesn't bother me (my ears don't see too good). Love that the filter has similar tone to my Clef B30 Microsynth (built it myself from a kit in 1985).
the same kit Behringer used for this one.
to me this is a v good sounding synth - sounds more like something in the 1500 us $ range to me...moog im looking at you...
Is it possible to hook up a mini usb-midi keyboard with the synth?
sure if there is a midi.. in this mini usb keyboard...
Which cv standard is used, v/oct or hz/v? Would I be able to interface it with my Paia 4700 and midi control it's vco's?
The Neutron uses v/oct
Please for the love of god tell me how to hook it to the keyboard then to my interface so I can do this
I really need to understand one thing, are these synths able to control synths in daws such as omnisphere, diva, sylenth, kontakt instruments and so on?
Nope -- the knobs don't transmit any data
@@insidesynthesis are there any hardware which I can use for controlling vsts?
Can you plug a keyboard to it?
Gotta say - Neutron is one of the coolest looking shit in this budget. Love the logo, red colour with silver knobs - - ugly?? nooo..strange man....greetings from Finland. Cool video, though, thanks.
Does it work with a guitar?
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Was that song at 4:44 from Ultima Online!?
Yes, but I messed it up a bit (I was playing from memory). The first part should have gone for two bars rather than one.
hahaha thats awesome, i knew there some reason it felt nostalgic
Ha ha! It IS FUGLY . . . At least to me! There was a lot of debate on Gearslutz about the red. They actually toned the red down from the prototype. The skins that one guy has been posting on Gearslutz are really sweet.
Seems like the appearance is the only knock on this synth. It sounds great in every demo I’ve watched so far.
Check out this track!! ua-cam.com/video/3uHDQBS21LM/v-deo.html
All the sounds besides the strings and brass were made on the neutron !
Synth noob here. Does "two notes of paraphony" mean that this synth can only play two notes at a time? So, no chords?
Yes -- it can use its two oscillators and play two notes at the same time. No triads or real chords. But unlike polyphonic synthesizers, paraphony shares the same single filter and amp.
40 days to get mine :)
So, how is it? :)
behringer mixers are just fine for home, have expensive studio mixer and some cheap behringer for at the kitchen table, works just fine. dont understand the hate.
Totally! But did you use them in the late 90s? They were pretty hit or miss. Their QA wasn't so good. But they improved it by the mid-2000s or so, and have been pretty good since then.
Same thing with the synths. Right now, they're hit or miss. I purchased all 12 of their synths (I have a big product guide video coming soon), and 4 of them have significant calibration issues. I've never experienced that with Korg or Yamaha. They need to get their shit together before they start charging for their big boy keyboards (the OBXa and the CS-80).
@@insidesynthesis the one i have is from the early 00 when i bought my fa-101 interface. so dont know how crappy it was in the late 90's. but the bitching never stopped until they released those copy cat synths.
Funny thing it costs less than my osc
Really, it'a pretty fantastic machine for the price, i have one and i dream to marry it with an other one with a good analogic step sequencer, a new 900 Euros investments... Just to explore one more other galaxy...
Would you suggest pairing with mini brute 2s?
Why not? And why not with an Arturia KeyStep, as well? Or with a Korg SQ-1? Or an Arturia MicroBrute? Whatever (really, even... MIDI!). You can also integrate it into your Eurorack modular - or keep it external, if so you wish.
Luca Crisi i was asking more if the sounds of each work together musicaly
I'm probably not getting your point. You can interface the Neutron with pretty much EVERYTHING. And, if your concern was to get 3 simultaneous voices, then yes, you can. You'll have the 2 voices from the Neutron and the one from the MiniBrute 2S - of course, synced via patch cables - or MIDI (if you prefer)
Luca Crisi yes, i understand that it can interface well And i can have all the voices i want, the question is wether the tones and sounds, the actual audio of the instruments work together in a musical/improvisational context, or if the tones just don't go together, and sound off
Sorry, but I still can't get the point. 1V/Oct is a standard. Do we agree on that? Different analog synths/sequencers talk "the same language". And there is still MIDI. Which is another language (which is well understood by both sides). Therefore, YES, tones go together. They can be synced. Or not. Depending on what you actually need in your current patch. Therefore, it depends on YOU, not on the instruments, to make them sound as you want.
I dislike Behringers business model but love the sound of the Neutron..
hi,
very good job, i love the sound at 3'35 and 4'36. How do you connect the neutron with the beatstep pro in cv ?
do you even patch bro? bro do you even patch?
He patches at the 5:55 mark.
3:02
G76 :))