I’m checking out this scooter, and at 6'3", it feels a bit small. The throttle is too sensitive. I’ll have a review on my channel soon, but I wanted to note that the front suspension swaps easily! It’s almost my favorite, but it has some flaws.
@ZeroLoveScooters That is really great information on the suspension. I would like to learn more. Would you be willing to take some voltage reading from the battery main leads, etc? That would be most helpful.
@@QuantiQualification I have no idea how to do that. I also won't be keeping the scooter very long. I'm returning it since it's so short for me I can't even ride it and the throttle is insanely jumpy with no ability to tune anything or be careful enough that it's not jumpy...it's just that way Big swing and miss from Okai for me. Almost had a masterpiece here but it failed in my eyes. Better throttle and a longer deck and some ability to adjust if using both motors or not would do wonders for this scooter.
TENGO EL MIO DESDE HACE 6 MESES Y ES VERDAD, LA SUSPENSION ES RIGIDA , Y EL PROBLEMA DE TENER QUE DESARMAR LA TAPA DE BATERIA POR SI SE TE CIERRA SON DETALLES CONSIDERABLES , DE AHI EN FUERA MI SCOOTER SIGUE BIEN Y VALE LA PENA, LAMENTO EL INCONVENIENTE QUE TIENES. OKAI DEBE RESOLVERTE.
Gracias por tu informe. Me alegro que el tuyo todavía funcione. Desafortunadamente, Okai aún no ha respondido positivamente. Les daré otra semana y les informaré sobre lo que hicieron o no hicieron.
Ha.. Yes, the suspension is way too stiff on the Panther -- it ruins the off road ride and vibrates the front end steampunk suspension loose. I spoke with Okai tech who told me he rode the original prototype Panther and it had soft suspension, was great. He doesn't understand why they changed -- an engineering mistake. Change out the bad Okai spring shocks to DVI Topaz air (on sale) so 3 shocks is still cheap enough to warrant the trouble (Okai tell us what size / spec will work!). Note that mine had a charging issue (would only charge up to 85% but Okai hooked me up with a new battery and charger via warranty (thank you). I changed out the brake pads, font and rear to resin ORGANIC pads.. now it's totally quiet. Forget Metallic or Ceramic.. they suck on this scooter / Nutt calipers. I really like my Panther but have now resigned myself to VERY MILD off road (like soft smooth sand or dark brown smooth hardpack) and pavement. Anything with rocks, like Iggy says.. is no fun. It's a big bummer because Okai is sitting on something that could be great, it is so close.... but the suspension needs help and there is no easy remedy.
Yes, it is a shame on the suspension. I still haven't received support from Okai on my issue. Thank you for letting me know about your battery issue. Will help me decide what to do next.
@@QuantiQualification They will honor the warranty and fix it. You may have to get your dealer / distributor involved to nudge them along but they'll take care of obvious issues.
Ive been able to jump almost 25 cm in the road but the problem I feel is the noise it makes like an old scooter. Maybe it’s because of the dust in my city I don’t know. 🤷🏻♂️
Did you put. Voltmeter on it to see if the battery has any charge, or it the power switch is working (if it has one). Maybe even a blown fuse? Things normally don't break from leaving a battery disconnected
Great points. The battery was at around 76% when I pulled it. I subsequently fully charged it when it failed to start up. I did check the main terminals with a Voltmeter and it read a strange 3 Volts. I think it may be related to a safety mechanism to prevent starting a fire if shorted since it is removable and comes to full voltage once connected. It could be just a dead battery as well which would be very sad since the battery is almost new. I have not messed with the electronics of the scooter such as the start button etc. at this time.
You would expect it to have a online fuse to protect the controller from power surges. That would normally be on a cable under a cover going from the battery connector, to the board or motor (battery removed). Not sure how confident you would be opening that up to check if it has one, to see if it's blown. You would need to be careful when touching anything with power still in it.
I am working with the manufacturer to see if they will be able to resolve it/or willing to help me. If that fails, I will dig into the electronics. I will probably put out a video if I do so, in case anybody wants to see what is inside. Any thought on the 3V reading from the battery main terminals? I was expecting around 60V!
I haven't yet given up fully on Okai but I am struggling to get them to tell me next steps to fix it. If they don't respond, I may have to open it up and see what went wrong. Might be the battery in which case I am sunk.
@@Celica0011 Not yet. I have had a lot of trouble with getting action from Okai. I will put up a video here shortly on what (little) I have found and done.
I’m checking out this scooter, and at 6'3", it feels a bit small. The throttle is too sensitive. I’ll have a review on my channel soon, but I wanted to note that the front suspension swaps easily! It’s almost my favorite, but it has some flaws.
@ZeroLoveScooters That is really great information on the suspension. I would like to learn more. Would you be willing to take some voltage reading from the battery main leads, etc? That would be most helpful.
@@QuantiQualification I have no idea how to do that. I also won't be keeping the scooter very long. I'm returning it since it's so short for me I can't even ride it and the throttle is insanely jumpy with no ability to tune anything or be careful enough that it's not jumpy...it's just that way
Big swing and miss from Okai for me. Almost had a masterpiece here but it failed in my eyes. Better throttle and a longer deck and some ability to adjust if using both motors or not would do wonders for this scooter.
Wow, I’m happy. I saw your video. I was just about to buy one of these now. Definitely not even if they resolve the issue forget that.😢
Yeah. I am currently trying to get some sort of fix from Okai. We will see if they are willing/able to help.
@@QuantiQualification I like the little white one just for the lights maybe I’ll buy that one but I like that niu kqi airX
@@JerseyStyle7 Niu definitely seems up and coming
TENGO EL MIO DESDE HACE 6 MESES Y ES VERDAD, LA SUSPENSION ES RIGIDA , Y EL PROBLEMA DE TENER QUE DESARMAR LA TAPA DE BATERIA POR SI SE TE CIERRA SON DETALLES CONSIDERABLES , DE AHI EN FUERA MI SCOOTER SIGUE BIEN Y VALE LA PENA, LAMENTO EL INCONVENIENTE QUE TIENES. OKAI DEBE RESOLVERTE.
Gracias por tu informe. Me alegro que el tuyo todavía funcione. Desafortunadamente, Okai aún no ha respondido positivamente. Les daré otra semana y les informaré sobre lo que hicieron o no hicieron.
De casualidad lo metieste al agua o le entró agua considerablemente a la bateria?
Cero exposición al agua, lluvia o cualquier otra humedad.
Tengo el contacto directo de WeChat del fabricante si es que no te hacen caso por otras vías.
Ha.. Yes, the suspension is way too stiff on the Panther -- it ruins the off road ride and vibrates the front end steampunk suspension loose. I spoke with Okai tech who told me he rode the original prototype Panther and it had soft suspension, was great. He doesn't understand why they changed -- an engineering mistake. Change out the bad Okai spring shocks to DVI Topaz air (on sale) so 3 shocks is still cheap enough to warrant the trouble (Okai tell us what size / spec will work!). Note that mine had a charging issue (would only charge up to 85% but Okai hooked me up with a new battery and charger via warranty (thank you). I changed out the brake pads, font and rear to resin ORGANIC pads.. now it's totally quiet. Forget Metallic or Ceramic.. they suck on this scooter / Nutt calipers. I really like my Panther but have now resigned myself to VERY MILD off road (like soft smooth sand or dark brown smooth hardpack) and pavement. Anything with rocks, like Iggy says.. is no fun. It's a big bummer because Okai is sitting on something that could be great, it is so close.... but the suspension needs help and there is no easy remedy.
Yes, it is a shame on the suspension. I still haven't received support from Okai on my issue. Thank you for letting me know about your battery issue. Will help me decide what to do next.
@@QuantiQualification They will honor the warranty and fix it. You may have to get your dealer / distributor involved to nudge them along but they'll take care of obvious issues.
Ive been able to jump almost 25 cm in the road but the problem I feel is the noise it makes like an old scooter. Maybe it’s because of the dust in my city I don’t know. 🤷🏻♂️
Too many problems!!!
Return it & wait for a year to see if there are any improvements.
@@8_x_9. 👍
Did you put. Voltmeter on it to see if the battery has any charge, or it the power switch is working (if it has one). Maybe even a blown fuse? Things normally don't break from leaving a battery disconnected
Great points. The battery was at around 76% when I pulled it. I subsequently fully charged it when it failed to start up. I did check the main terminals with a Voltmeter and it read a strange 3 Volts. I think it may be related to a safety mechanism to prevent starting a fire if shorted since it is removable and comes to full voltage once connected. It could be just a dead battery as well which would be very sad since the battery is almost new. I have not messed with the electronics of the scooter such as the start button etc. at this time.
You would expect it to have a online fuse to protect the controller from power surges. That would normally be on a cable under a cover going from the battery connector, to the board or motor (battery removed). Not sure how confident you would be opening that up to check if it has one, to see if it's blown. You would need to be careful when touching anything with power still in it.
I am working with the manufacturer to see if they will be able to resolve it/or willing to help me. If that fails, I will dig into the electronics. I will probably put out a video if I do so, in case anybody wants to see what is inside. Any thought on the 3V reading from the battery main terminals? I was expecting around 60V!
If you have battery voltage, your controller is probably bad
@@PeterDiCapua You are probably right. I am getting absolutely no help from Okai itself. I will give them one last chance to help out before . . .
well im not buying that scooter
I haven't yet given up fully on Okai but I am struggling to get them to tell me next steps to fix it. If they don't respond, I may have to open it up and see what went wrong. Might be the battery in which case I am sunk.
@QuantiQualification keep is posted let us know I
@@raizdesuenos I will. I am giving Okai a last chance here. Hasn't been pretty so far.
@@QuantiQualificationany update?
@@Celica0011 Not yet. I have had a lot of trouble with getting action from Okai. I will put up a video here shortly on what (little) I have found and done.