her nahida is average ??? if not even little below average nahida dosent really use dendro cup she need over 800 em and crit states like 60-70 crit rate with 150-160 crit dmg
@@serzanbe5459 you really don't need that much cr since you get at least 20 more on her e ticks from her passive. I also have 800 something em with a dendro goblet. I go over the 1k cap with triple em
@@serzanbe5459 her Nahida is definitely way above average. Having 800 EM with FLOP set and dendro damage goblet/crit circlet is no joke. You'll hardly get 70/160 ratio without using crit weapon which will reduce your EM drastically. My Nahida has 50/140 ratio and 800 EM with Widsith but she's on triple EM arts and deepwood set. And dendro damage goblet is actually viable for her because of her high tri-karma damage.
Flower of paradise lost is for the character that actually does the damage e.g. kuki for hyperbloom and kokomi and nilou for bloom. The dendro cores don't scale off the dendro applicator(nahida) and instead off kokomi/Barbara for bloom and kuki/Raiden for hyperbloom
In this team nahida is the one proccing the reaction so you should still use paradise on nahida its diff if nahida has another dendro teammate but that's not the case
@@magiesti the blooms don't inherently scale off of the dendro character it just happens that in a triple hydro team the dendro character IS the one that the blooms are scaling off of. TLDR the blooms scale of the em of the character that applies the 2nd element DENDRO(if hydro>dendro) or HYDRO(if dendro>hydro)
@@aquamentai if you watch the video long enough you'd see that when he wasn't using xingqiu and Yelan, The dendro aura almost never left, meaning hydro was triggering. Nahida's dendro application is so strong, the hydro characters will own a majority of the blooms. That's why Nahida goes on deepwood as she's the best user and can keep its effect with 100% uptime in AoE
In most bloom teams with Nahida, she won’t be the one triggering the blooms because she applies so much dendro. It’s hard to tell who, but generally you want all your EM in either Barbara or Kokomi (whichever one you have in your team) because they’ll be the ones triggering the blooms. The reason for this is elemental gauge theory, and how many units of dendro Nahida applies (1.5)
Moga's team is a triple hydro nilou team with Nahida as the onfield bloom trigger. It's less bloom but it helps with bloom ownership. 2H2D imo is better for unga bunga superbloom.
@@Lilac_TaylorsVer yes, you just have to farm 3 full em sets, but is easier and more consistent bloom dmg if everyone has a lot of em not just one character on nilou bloom.
I believe kokomi is the best holder for Flower of paradise lost but in spiral abyss I run a hybrid 2 piece 2 piece so she still heals enough, run a EM weapon like sacrificial so she has 100% uptime on skill without having to burst
there are 3 factors why theres such a specific difference. 1: as you noticed in the video in a later point. who the trigger is, paradise requires the trigger to be nahida, her application is so fast that it actually that its the hydro being the bloom triggers more often. this is why hyperbloom/burgeon specificly dont got this issue. 2: paradise on that nahida of 1121em actually is only increasing bloom dmg from 13.577x to 14.377x because it adds to this specific multi, its rouhgly 5.5%(i think its actually a bit less because i think the multis i got dont include the base so +1x). and this only works if shes the trigger 3: deepwood if theres no one using it on the team decreases any dendro dmg by more then 20% in most cases if assuming 90% res. infact its 33.33% increase if 90% res also side factor. dendro dmg doesnt increase blooms unless actually part of what ever kit it would be, which we dont got one atm.
Suggested changed. 1. Level up barbara to level 90. she is missing 30% bloom dmg. 2. Use a deepwood set on nahida. Dendro resistance is really necessary. 3. Raise yaoyao. She is really good in bloom team.
@@blastzd I dont wanna be rude but ALL of those claims are wrong, on field and sometimes even off field nahida makes ur hydro charaters trigger the blooms often than not, nahida is the best user of deepwood because she has very consistent uptime and ur not always gonna be touching the enemies with barbs and nahida is almost an essential for nilou bloom idk who told u dmc and collei are better.
Haven't seen anyone mention this but, transformative reactions scale off level so that level 80 Barbara isn't gonna do as much as a level 90 would since shes the one in the team triggering the blooms generally
I’m not sure if you know this post commentary but the only thing that impacts Bloom damage is EM and Level, enemy’s Dendro Resistance and DEF also play a part however, and Baizhu allegedly has a “Reaction damage Bonus” so whatever that is might also be a contributing factor, Dendro DMG bonus does absolutely nothing so boosting Dendro DMG bonus is useless for Bloom, you’re better off max EM with a deep wood user on the team
Gonna clarify something here. DEF does not affect transformative reaction, it is always gonna ignore DEF. The DEF shred debuff just gonna affect personal damage (talent dmg).
wait really? bloom's used against dendro slimes cause "immune" to appear, meaning they are immune to bloom damage... shouldn't bloom damage be based on dendro damage? i know pyro slimes work the same with overload since overload counts as pyro damage.
Just some tips: You might as well use deepwood since she's most likely not gonna be the one proccing most of the cores in any bloom teams. Crit rate/damage is useless to your dendro core activator unless you have C2 Nahida but it's still fixed at 20/100 ratio so the crit circlet isn't that useful. Dendro damage goblets are also quite useless so just go for EM.
@@blastzd She's the driver but not the one who procs it. She applies dendro so fast that there's just no way most cores will be activated by her. The EM should've been given to Barbara with paradise lost and then deepwood to Nahida.
@@Kim_Imyoung dude, in triple hydro nahida is the one procing blooms most of the time, he just used yelan who applies less hydro than xingqiu and plus he didnt have kokomi
@@blastzd I don't think you realize just how fast Nahida applies dendro especially on field. Her E gets activated everytime there's an elemental reaction so dendro literally gets applied again everytime you do bloom that's why it's hard to wear off. With Nahida as a driver, her 1.5U, and no ICD skill, she's literally applying a great amount of dendro that not even triple hydro can overwhelm.
@@Kim_Imyoung she applies dendro every like 1.9s with her skill if u used ur burst, even keqingmains said that the dendro character in a triple hydro nilou comp will do majority of the blooms
In bloom team i suggest nahida use deepwood set and the healer (barbara/kokomi) using the paradise set bcs they're the ones that normally trigger the reaction
@@Wrath0 true but koko/barbara apply hydro with their e whereas yelan/xingqiu apply with their burst, so trying to get as much ER when trying to stack EM is much harder and requires more investment. Also the fact that Koko/Barbara have access to Sac frag which has high EM and gives another e whereas Sac sword and sac bow give ER, so in terms of bloom damage Koko/Barbara are better.
Dendro dmg bonus dont affect transformative reactions such as bloom, hyperbloom, electrocharged etc. but resistance reduction does. And its separate from Nahidas DEF reduction so they stack too
@@grommy511 yes, but u were talking about tranformative reactions and then added "and its seperate from nahidas def reduction" which cant work since quicken is not transormative reaction
@@blastzd yea but my point was that depwood is important in dendro dmg focused teams even with nahida c2. nothing else. my wording is a bit bad but thats becouse i tried to make it short
I love how people like you are out here theorycrafting Nahida for bloom and EM stuff and I'm over here with my Nahida; "Haha, 70/250 crit Nahida go BRRRRR!~"
Always use deepwood on Nahida The trigger uses gilded or flop set like kuki or Koko n are built full em Other teammates don't matter u can use their best in slots or instructor n soo on Nahida uses gilded only on a team where there is another deepwood user
1k hp diff on Nilou is as a matter of fact a rather large diff! Since it starts counting AFTER the first 30k. only the last 45k count. With numbers that big, it's a bit more than a 2.5% larger multiplier. on your acc >.>
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All that mates for dmg in bloom is character lvl (80 -> 90 increase reaction dmg by 30%) and elemental mastery, deep wood memory should go for any character that doesnt proc blooms even kokomi is good choice, and Paradiso set for character actually creating bloom, best way to know who is creating blooms is take off all em from characters besides 1 and swap around until you notice when most blooms do dmg, then slap deep wood on healer/nahida and you good to go Additonal note: dendro dmg doesnt affect bloom dmg, only dendro resistance shred
To circumvent the problem of who triggers the reaction, people generally run double Dendro (Nahida + Yaoyoa) and double Hydro (Nilou + Kokomi) and have Kokomi trigger the reactions
Bones's nahida: triple crowned in a day my Nahida in 6 months: level 40 with every talents level 1 whenever I see a nahida showcase I'm always like "so this is what my nahida would look like if I'm not too lazy to build her"
I have Nahida, but for some reason she didn't feel good in my Nilou team so I swapped her out for DMC. Sure my bloom damage might not be tthat impressive(around 16-20k) but the rotations feel much more fluid, and i love not having to apply Nahida's e all the time when a new wave comes, and I can just rotate all around bcs everyone has around a 360 EM, so no matter who triggers the bloom, it will be consistant damage.
@@ashwinpremnath2821 Why would I? I already have a good hyperbloom team with cyno, I was just talking about my Nilou team. Also in your case you shouldn't build DMC with EM, only energy recharge and damge, since only Kuki's EM influences the hyperbloom damage.
@@clyreane575 I tried with her, but it just felt better without her. DMC burst cover a huge are when infused with hydro, and the dendro application is aoe too(a litle). Even If I cleared a wave of enemies, it still continues to apply dendro, and there is no need to reapply it like in Nahida's case. Sure it is not that strong vs boss enemies, but bloom is made for fighting big groups of enemies anyways. Also going for those 40k big pp blooms is kinda useless, since enemies die so early, that you just don't need this high damage. I could comfortably clear abyss with my Nilou team.
Yaoyao, for me, is a much better healer with nilou bloom team than kokomi. Not only she can do lots of healing, she also has dendro resistance, which will be a bit better than kokomi on field. you can run 4pc instructor and her healing will still be great heck even smacking random em artifacts is still good healing, and she will also activate the dendro resonance with Nahida.
The reason why Nahida is so good in Nilou teams is because her high dendro application helps maintain a dendro aura on the enemy; what that means is that your hydro unit (barbara or kokomi) will pretty consistently be the one triggering the blooms, so it's a good idea for them be the character you build on flower of paradise lost/gilded with full em. Nahida generally doesn't have high ownership of the blooms, so building her on deepwood is great, cause not only is she increasing bloom dmg by decreasing enemy resistances, but she's also increasing her own dmg because she's taking advantage of the dendro dmg resistance shred as well :)
Ok moga , i don't want to be rude her but you did got some things wrong .. A. Nahida in triple EM Deepwood is a must on nilou teams since her 1.5u of dendro makes it the aura doesn't disappear meaning most of the ownership might come from Hydro char .... So the hydro char being on triple EM paradise is way more efficient than on Nahida in paradise B. Please stop using Yelan on Bloom teams.. She is probably the worst hydro character you could have chosen. Nilou blooms are more of a AoE based team. Yelan is mostly single target unit. Yes she can use elegy but does have diminishing returns . The more EM you get the less of a increase you get in bloom teams. Xingqiu is just a way better option because he has some AoE. C. In Bones's Bloom teams , Blooms can't crit because she doesn't have access to C2 Nahida .. This is why your Blooms were critting because you have C2 Bloom. Thank the lord that cap blue hat told you everything
i think in nilou bloom really need a solid healer, yaoyao is a good options for now. Also building your yelan with hp and em doesnt seem like a bad idea at all even tho loosing some of her dps but more bloom damage. Also more em with dendro ress
Using Xingqiu in bloom teams is usually better because of the more hydro and dmg reduction/healing. I think you sort of just use yelan always where she isn't always best
The real answer for Bones here is to just pull for Kokomi. That she doesn't already have kokomi is crazy to me, since she's had 2 rerun banners. Also no Deepwood is losing her a lot of damage from both Bloom and nahida personal damage.
Full em Kokomi with with fopl is the best/easiest bloom triggerer in Nilou teams imo. She tanks all the damage, and if hydro takes over, then Nahida can come in with some normals. Rotation flows very nicely. Deepwood on Nahida is best because the passive will always be active.
only if Barbara is the one proccing Blooms. Personally in this team I think it would be better to give Nilou 4pc Deepwood and keep Nahida on 4pc Paradise
Nilou, Xingqiu, nahida and Yao Yao would be the better team for her since you can play Yao Yao on field for a lot of healing and then swap to nahida while on cool down
I am so confused with this nahida build. Not impressed, but confused. If was on gilded or deepwood I would probably be impressed, but on paradise lost? Crit? Why?
Your best bet would be to have Nahida in deepwood and the others ( usually the hydros ) in paradise lost. While Nilou should have the 2pc 2pc hp to reach max.
This is why I subbed to Moga: for entertainment only. Not for guides obviously 🤣 Seriously, your videos are fun, but not quite effective in terms of mechanics and gameplay. That's why it's kinda refreshing when Moga has his friend come over and telling him things lmao It's okay, this game takes time to fully learn 😁
well i wished on her banner i lost my 3rd 50/50 but this time i was so happy i lost it at like 9 pity unlike the last time this time it only took 90 pulls instead of 170 for scaramouche and 180 for raiden and i got c3 layla last time it took me over 110 pulls for 1 faruzan just have to build her now 🥳
My nahida is in deepwood. And has similar similar stats then bones her nahida. And i dont have her wep. I got the key instead😓 and no nilou. Tho i use miko koko and nahida in a team. Pretty dope tbh.
Still mindbroken by his last summoning session *winning both weapons first pull *winning 1 character 50/50 ~150-200 less wishes than average to guarantee what he got 🥲bad session tho
ofc her Nahida is better, all characters Moga has shown in her account is just better, Bones is just cracked as hell lol
Also moga is fine with his main, yoimiya, having a circlet without crit substat lol
her nahida is average ??? if not even little below average nahida dosent really use dendro cup she need over 800 em and crit states like 60-70 crit rate with 150-160 crit dmg
@@serzanbe5459 you really don't need that much cr since you get at least 20 more on her e ticks from her passive. I also have 800 something em with a dendro goblet. I go over the 1k cap with triple em
@@serzanbe5459 her Nahida is definitely way above average. Having 800 EM with FLOP set and dendro damage goblet/crit circlet is no joke. You'll hardly get 70/160 ratio without using crit weapon which will reduce your EM drastically. My Nahida has 50/140 ratio and 800 EM with Widsith but she's on triple EM arts and deepwood set. And dendro damage goblet is actually viable for her because of her high tri-karma damage.
fr bro😭
IT WASN'T A BAD SUMMONING SESSION!
You won 50/50 twice on weapon banner
Usually when whales wish, they're never happy until they get the thing they want
Yeah but it’s bones’s account
@@foxstudios9643 doesn’t matter, luck isn’t determined by account
someone tell him again, bc hes not getting over this.
IKR, that summoning session was actually above average luck. It's also not even 50/50 on the weapon banner, it's 25/75 so his luck was even better
Flower of paradise lost is for the character that actually does the damage e.g. kuki for hyperbloom and kokomi and nilou for bloom. The dendro cores don't scale off the dendro applicator(nahida) and instead off kokomi/Barbara for bloom and kuki/Raiden for hyperbloom
Brb gonna take this for reference 😌 i thought Nahida was who made tje blooms (under the assumption the ckres are based off Dendro EM)
In this team nahida is the one proccing the reaction so you should still use paradise on nahida its diff if nahida has another dendro teammate but that's not the case
@@magiesti the blooms don't inherently scale off of the dendro character it just happens that in a triple hydro team the dendro character IS the one that the blooms are scaling off of. TLDR the blooms scale of the em of the character that applies the 2nd element DENDRO(if hydro>dendro) or HYDRO(if dendro>hydro)
@@aquamentai if you watch the video long enough you'd see that when he wasn't using xingqiu and Yelan, The dendro aura almost never left, meaning hydro was triggering.
Nahida's dendro application is so strong, the hydro characters will own a majority of the blooms.
That's why Nahida goes on deepwood as she's the best user and can keep its effect with 100% uptime in AoE
@@aquamentai wait what about a 2 dendro/2 hydro team?
In most bloom teams with Nahida, she won’t be the one triggering the blooms because she applies so much dendro. It’s hard to tell who, but generally you want all your EM in either Barbara or Kokomi (whichever one you have in your team) because they’ll be the ones triggering the blooms.
The reason for this is elemental gauge theory, and how many units of dendro Nahida applies (1.5)
Why deal with such nuisances about who proccs the blooms, when you can simple stack em on everyone?
Moga's team is a triple hydro nilou team with Nahida as the onfield bloom trigger. It's less bloom but it helps with bloom ownership. 2H2D imo is better for unga bunga superbloom.
lol i dont think he even has a clue of the unit of dendro she can apply, probably just keep it in simple terms for casuals
@@Lilac_TaylorsVer yes, you just have to farm 3 full em sets, but is easier and more consistent bloom dmg if everyone has a lot of em not just one character on nilou bloom.
@@icarus2679 it’s actually worse for bloom ownership control, because nahida applies so much dendro the three off field hydros trigger bloom at random
generally you want flower of paradise lost on one of your main hydro triggers and nahida to be on deepwood
It can be good on triple hydro w/ Xingqiu (also maybe w/ Yelan C2?), otherwise yeah...
I believe kokomi is the best holder for Flower of paradise lost but in spiral abyss I run a hybrid 2 piece 2 piece so she still heals enough, run a EM weapon like sacrificial so she has 100% uptime on skill without having to burst
@@ryluthy thats usually what i do too
for nahida the bis set is deepwood set, if you have another char using deepwood set on the team the best is glided dreams
7:33 Just a casual 52 CV piece
there are 3 factors why theres such a specific difference.
1: as you noticed in the video in a later point. who the trigger is, paradise requires the trigger to be nahida, her application is so fast that it actually that its the hydro being the bloom triggers more often. this is why hyperbloom/burgeon specificly dont got this issue.
2: paradise on that nahida of 1121em actually is only increasing bloom dmg from 13.577x to 14.377x because it adds to this specific multi, its rouhgly 5.5%(i think its actually a bit less because i think the multis i got dont include the base so +1x). and this only works if shes the trigger
3: deepwood if theres no one using it on the team decreases any dendro dmg by more then 20% in most cases if assuming 90% res. infact its 33.33% increase if 90% res
also side factor. dendro dmg doesnt increase blooms unless actually part of what ever kit it would be, which we dont got one atm.
Suggested changed.
1. Level up barbara to level 90. she is missing 30% bloom dmg.
2. Use a deepwood set on nahida. Dendro resistance is really necessary.
3. Raise yaoyao. She is really good in bloom team.
barbara doesnt even do bloom in this team
nahida shouldnt use deepwood in this team, barbara should.
dmc and collei are better in bloom teams
@@blastzd maybe you don't know how bloom works if you are saying that barbara doesn't bloom.
@@blastzd I dont wanna be rude but ALL of those claims are wrong, on field and sometimes even off field nahida makes ur hydro charaters trigger the blooms often than not, nahida is the best user of deepwood because she has very consistent uptime and ur not always gonna be touching the enemies with barbs and nahida is almost an essential for nilou bloom idk who told u dmc and collei are better.
@@blastzdyou dont know how blooms work dont you
@@Rachitdubey barbara doesnt bloom much. nahida is still blooming majority of the times
Oh boy i wonder who helped moga with the Post Production information on screen/voice over in the bloom segments
oh boy i wonder who fucking asked
You should've told him that dendro dmg bonus on nahida doesn't boost the bloom damage as well😅
Haven't seen anyone mention this but, transformative reactions scale off level so that level 80 Barbara isn't gonna do as much as a level 90 would since shes the one in the team triggering the blooms generally
she is not doing much blooms in this team lmao
@@blastzd okay but normally, if you built the team right she'd be the one triggering the blooms right?
@@lelolelo5441 only in double dendro double hydro
It bothers me every time when a character is about to die and then he never switches off, he always lets them die.
I’m not sure if you know this post commentary but the only thing that impacts Bloom damage is EM and Level, enemy’s Dendro Resistance and DEF also play a part however, and Baizhu allegedly has a “Reaction damage Bonus” so whatever that is might also be a contributing factor, Dendro DMG bonus does absolutely nothing so boosting Dendro DMG bonus is useless for Bloom, you’re better off max EM with a deep wood user on the team
Nahidas c2 let's you score crits for blooms tho?
@@RyuZuzuX yes, but it has a fixed crit rate and crit dmg at 20% and 100% respectively. Nahida's own crit stats won't matter
@@astsophia oh
Gonna clarify something here. DEF does not affect transformative reaction, it is always gonna ignore DEF. The DEF shred debuff just gonna affect personal damage (talent dmg).
wait really? bloom's used against dendro slimes cause "immune" to appear, meaning they are immune to bloom damage... shouldn't bloom damage be based on dendro damage? i know pyro slimes work the same with overload since overload counts as pyro damage.
Man really had average-to-good luck and called it a "horrible summoning session." Does he not realise he won't get extremely lucky every single time?
Did anyone else realise that he had zhongli on his team when he's not sopposed to be using zhongli
Maybe Bones left the piece at +16 on purpose to rock those lucky sevens in the EM department. But now Moga ruined that perfect 777 😭
Bloom = Elemental Mastery ALONE.
Support character on Deepwood and blooming character on Paradise Lost helps. EM EM EM.
Just some tips:
You might as well use deepwood since she's most likely not gonna be the one proccing most of the cores in any bloom teams.
Crit rate/damage is useless to your dendro core activator unless you have C2 Nahida but it's still fixed at 20/100 ratio so the crit circlet isn't that useful.
Dendro damage goblets are also quite useless so just go for EM.
in this team, nahida is procing majority of the blooms, barbara shouldve used deepwood
@@blastzd She's the driver but not the one who procs it. She applies dendro so fast that there's just no way most cores will be activated by her. The EM should've been given to Barbara with paradise lost and then deepwood to Nahida.
@@Kim_Imyoung dude, in triple hydro nahida is the one procing blooms most of the time, he just used yelan who applies less hydro than xingqiu and plus he didnt have kokomi
@@blastzd I don't think you realize just how fast Nahida applies dendro especially on field. Her E gets activated everytime there's an elemental reaction so dendro literally gets applied again everytime you do bloom that's why it's hard to wear off. With Nahida as a driver, her 1.5U, and no ICD skill, she's literally applying a great amount of dendro that not even triple hydro can overwhelm.
@@Kim_Imyoung she applies dendro every like 1.9s with her skill if u used ur burst, even keqingmains said that the dendro character in a triple hydro nilou comp will do majority of the blooms
But the last summoning session wasn't that bad?
But those artifacts are basically god tier, it's amazing!
In bloom team i suggest nahida use deepwood set and the healer (barbara/kokomi) using the paradise set bcs they're the ones that normally trigger the reaction
Yelan/xingqiue can use fopl too
@@Wrath0 true but koko/barbara apply hydro with their e whereas yelan/xingqiu apply with their burst, so trying to get as much ER when trying to stack EM is much harder and requires more investment. Also the fact that Koko/Barbara have access to Sac frag which has high EM and gives another e whereas Sac sword and sac bow give ER, so in terms of bloom damage Koko/Barbara are better.
Dendro dmg bonus dont affect transformative reactions such as bloom, hyperbloom, electrocharged etc. but resistance reduction does. And its separate from Nahidas DEF reduction so they stack too
nahidas def reduction is only for quicken lol
@@blastzd but quicken is also affected by resistance shred
@@grommy511 yes, but u were talking about tranformative reactions and then added "and its seperate from nahidas def reduction" which cant work since quicken is not transormative reaction
@@blastzd yea but my point was that depwood is important in dendro dmg focused teams even with nahida c2. nothing else. my wording is a bit bad but thats becouse i tried to make it short
@@grommy511 yea but barbara shouldve used deepwood in this team so
I love how people like you are out here theorycrafting Nahida for bloom and EM stuff and I'm over here with my Nahida;
"Haha, 70/250 crit Nahida go BRRRRR!~"
"sO aFtEr OnE oF tHe MoSt HoRrIbLe SuMmOnInG SeSsIoNs I'vE eVeR hAd"😂😂
Potion and the extra dendro dmg for upping the goblet are not increasing bloom damage
Finally your regular content r back💀
Always use deepwood on Nahida
The trigger uses gilded or flop set like kuki or Koko n are built full em
Other teammates don't matter u can use their best in slots or instructor n soo on Nahida uses gilded only on a team where there is another deepwood user
1k hp diff on Nilou is as a matter of fact a rather large diff!
Since it starts counting AFTER the first 30k. only the last 45k count. With numbers that big, it's a bit more than a 2.5% larger multiplier. on your acc >.>
I read the title very differently at first I was about say
Day 10000 of watching Moga have no idea what the fuck he is doing in the game 🔥🔥🔥
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All that mates for dmg in bloom is character lvl (80 -> 90 increase reaction dmg by 30%) and elemental mastery, deep wood memory should go for any character that doesnt proc blooms even kokomi is good choice, and Paradiso set for character actually creating bloom, best way to know who is creating blooms is take off all em from characters besides 1 and swap around until you notice when most blooms do dmg, then slap deep wood on healer/nahida and you good to go
Additonal note: dendro dmg doesnt affect bloom dmg, only dendro resistance shred
To circumvent the problem of who triggers the reaction, people generally run double Dendro (Nahida + Yaoyoa) and double Hydro (Nilou + Kokomi) and have Kokomi trigger the reactions
Wow, sometime between Monster Super League and Genshin you broke the 500k subscriber point. I knew you'd make it
Bones's nahida: triple crowned in a day
my Nahida in 6 months: level 40 with every talents level 1
whenever I see a nahida showcase I'm always like "so this is what my nahida would look like if I'm not too lazy to build her"
If winning over half your 50/50s and getting both weapons first try equals bad summons idk what good is
Hmmm when did i see this thumbnail before 🤔
bone's ayaka
I have Nahida, but for some reason she didn't feel good in my Nilou team so I swapped her out for DMC. Sure my bloom damage might not be tthat impressive(around 16-20k) but the rotations feel much more fluid, and i love not having to apply Nahida's e all the time when a new wave comes, and I can just rotate all around bcs everyone has around a 360 EM, so no matter who triggers the bloom, it will be consistant damage.
@@ashwinpremnath2821 Why would I? I already have a good hyperbloom team with cyno, I was just talking about my Nilou team.
Also in your case you shouldn't build DMC with EM, only energy recharge and damge, since only Kuki's EM influences the hyperbloom damage.
She didn't feel good in what way? Nilou teams without nahida are a whole new experience than with her
@@botondnyitrai3128 oh, i see thanks for the recommendation. 🙏
@@clyreane575 I tried with her, but it just felt better without her. DMC burst cover a huge are when infused with hydro, and the dendro application is aoe too(a litle). Even If I cleared a wave of enemies, it still continues to apply dendro, and there is no need to reapply it like in Nahida's case. Sure it is not that strong vs boss enemies, but bloom is made for fighting big groups of enemies anyways. Also going for those 40k big pp blooms is kinda useless, since enemies die so early, that you just don't need this high damage. I could comfortably clear abyss with my Nilou team.
@@ashwinpremnath2821 you are welcome
3:41 Just noticed that triple crown 🤯
blooms don't scale on dendro dmg bonus, it only scales on em , but the dendro shred on enemies from deepwood gives the extra dmg
Yaoyao, for me, is a much better healer with nilou bloom team than kokomi. Not only she can do lots of healing, she also has dendro resistance, which will be a bit better than kokomi on field. you can run 4pc instructor and her healing will still be great heck even smacking random em artifacts is still good healing, and she will also activate the dendro resonance with Nahida.
Wow, I have the exact same Crit Rate Circlet on my Nahida stat wise like your GF, the only difference is that mine is Deepwood set. Crazy :o
"Lets see if he acknowledged the comments of the past video"
*literally the first sentence*
"Welp"
I don't know if moga is aware but there's a immortal turtle that you can use as your training dummy instead of Masanori in the new location.
but you cant see the dmg
And you can even have a race w/ one of those turtles at the beach of the new desert area..
The reason why Nahida is so good in Nilou teams is because her high dendro application helps maintain a dendro aura on the enemy; what that means is that your hydro unit (barbara or kokomi) will pretty consistently be the one triggering the blooms, so it's a good idea for them be the character you build on flower of paradise lost/gilded with full em. Nahida generally doesn't have high ownership of the blooms, so building her on deepwood is great, cause not only is she increasing bloom dmg by decreasing enemy resistances, but she's also increasing her own dmg because she's taking advantage of the dendro dmg resistance shred as well :)
I got ayaka flashbacks after seeing the title
for kaveh, i heard he heals himself when bloom hurt him, or just dont affect him at all
Ok moga , i don't want to be rude her but you did got some things wrong ..
A. Nahida in triple EM Deepwood is a must on nilou teams since her 1.5u of dendro makes it the aura doesn't disappear meaning most of the ownership might come from Hydro char .... So the hydro char being on triple EM paradise is way more efficient than on Nahida in paradise
B. Please stop using Yelan on Bloom teams.. She is probably the worst hydro character you could have chosen. Nilou blooms are more of a AoE based team. Yelan is mostly single target unit. Yes she can use elegy but does have diminishing returns . The more EM you get the less of a increase you get in bloom teams. Xingqiu is just a way better option because he has some AoE.
C. In Bones's Bloom teams , Blooms can't crit because she doesn't have access to C2 Nahida .. This is why your Blooms were critting because you have C2 Bloom.
Thank the lord that cap blue hat told you everything
Agree. Although give got one thing wrong. Bones actually has a c2 Nahida
Why isn't anyone mentioning the lvl 80/90 key 😭
i think in nilou bloom really need a solid healer, yaoyao is a good options for now. Also building your yelan with hp and em doesnt seem like a bad idea at all even tho loosing some of her dps but more bloom damage. Also more em with dendro ress
Using Xingqiu in bloom teams is usually better because of the more hydro and dmg reduction/healing. I think you sort of just use yelan always where she isn't always best
The real answer for Bones here is to just pull for Kokomi. That she doesn't already have kokomi is crazy to me, since she's had 2 rerun banners. Also no Deepwood is losing her a lot of damage from both Bloom and nahida personal damage.
neither kokomi nor yao yao :/
Wait, it shows on the bloom team that she has Kokomi. Or am i mistaken? Idk
Full em Kokomi with with fopl is the best/easiest bloom triggerer in Nilou teams imo. She tanks all the damage, and if hydro takes over, then Nahida can come in with some normals. Rotation flows very nicely. Deepwood on Nahida is best because the passive will always be active.
She could have deepwood on Barbara if she has some hp pieces
she should put Barbara on paradise and nahida on redwood that will increase the bloom dmg
only if Barbara is the one proccing Blooms. Personally in this team I think it would be better to give Nilou 4pc Deepwood and keep Nahida on 4pc Paradise
@@randomperson8375 no nahida applies enough dendro to keep up. Nilou should be on 2pc Ten 2pc Vour
@@WakaDior nahida cant apply enough dendro so that dendro can actually be an aura 💀 please
That Nahida Bloom damage is almost as high as my Spread damage I can hit around 80k spread but it's still not good enough
That apostrophe s saved it
Hey moga! if ur pulling for baizhu you should do ur pulls in baizhus room!
i need more zhongliless content 😅
Yao Yao is like crazy for bloom, build her
Damn and I have yet to even get my Nahida 💀
Edit: personally I think your c0 nilou with weapon summon session was worse than the last one
And I have yet to level up a Dendro character other than the MC💀
@@zenoafro same💀 traveler and my level 70 Yao Yao are the only thing I have for dendro
his c0 nilou sesh was worse than his most recent session. he just made it awful by singling for like 30+ pulls
dendro dmg bonus does NOT boost dendro core dmg btw
Nilou, Xingqiu, nahida and Yao Yao would be the better team for her since you can play Yao Yao on field for a lot of healing and then swap to nahida while on cool down
for her account yea, otherwise not rlly
I am so confused with this nahida build. Not impressed, but confused. If was on gilded or deepwood I would probably be impressed, but on paradise lost? Crit? Why?
paradise lost cuz its the best for bloom, crit and dendro goblet are not ideal tho, he is just not informed at all lmao
@@blastzd that was my confusion, crit on gilded or deepwood is great, but on paradise?
Your best bet would be to have Nahida in deepwood and the others ( usually the hydros ) in paradise lost. While Nilou should have the 2pc 2pc hp to reach max.
Nilou bloom is so complicated without 2 dendro's
let's leave the guide videos to the content creators who actually understand how game mechanics work
Bones supremacy as always ^^
xinqui should help in survival cause% dmg reduction and little healing(may help)
BTW , xingqiu dmg reduction doesn't work on blooms
Another hard watch moga 👍
Well if your nahida is on deepwood than yours is still technically better moga 😂
You dont put nahida on FLOP
Bones' nahida em is the lucky number but moga's nahida has the nice number
Deepwood issue i feel like
Im pretty sure Kokomi is the problem, Barbara healing is super slow which makes it more difficult to heal especially when bloom are hurting.
doesnt dendro dmg goblet not work with transormative reactions? (bloom/hyperbloom) wouldnt EM goblet just be better
Try Yaoyao and Candace instead of Yelan and Barbara. It's the most successful bloom team I've used.
hii i love the vid
Xingqiu can’t actually mitigate dmg from blooms.
Please level up that barbara to 90, its like a 30% dps loss😭
Me desperately trying to understand the title and comments after doing the basics in duolingo
Bones supremacy
This is why I subbed to Moga: for entertainment only. Not for guides obviously 🤣
Seriously, your videos are fun, but not quite effective in terms of mechanics and gameplay. That's why it's kinda refreshing when Moga has his friend come over and telling him things lmao
It's okay, this game takes time to fully learn 😁
is it weird that i questioned why Bones is still a GF and not a wife yet
Or at least a fiancé
well i wished on her banner i lost my 3rd 50/50 but this time i was so happy i lost it at like 9 pity unlike the last time this time it only took 90 pulls instead of 170 for scaramouche and 180 for raiden and i got c3 layla last time it took me over 110 pulls for 1 faruzan just have to build her now 🥳
heheheh Winter made it to the cut at the start >:)
She even had a level 16 artifact bruhhhhh
im getting my c1 nahida this rerun
how do ppl still dont know nilou triggers the blooms instantly with her passive
u mean it explodes instantly
My nahida is in deepwood. And has similar similar stats then bones her nahida. And i dont have her wep. I got the key instead😓 and no nilou.
Tho i use miko koko and nahida in a team. Pretty dope tbh.
Dendro Damage bonus doesnt effect blooms at all
13:18 DMG bonus doesn't affect transformative reactions...T-T
PLEASE LEVEL THE KEY OF KHAJ-NISUT TO 90!!!
I thought it said "My GF Nahida" and was like 🤨
only 66k lmao i’m crying i can’t reach that
Bro you lost me 😅I need to watch it again 😂
Still mindbroken by his last summoning session
*winning both weapons first pull
*winning 1 character 50/50
~150-200 less wishes than average to guarantee what he got 🥲bad session tho
Bones
How is Paradise better then Deepwood? ) Deepwood is Nahida's best set unless someone else is already using that set, then you go with Gilded.
Wouldn't just off fielding nahida and onfielding a hydro fix the bloom issue
Deepwood can go in Kokomi too