V-COM: Makes CPAP Easier, Decreases Mouthleak, Decreases Aerophagia

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024

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  • @Freecpapadvice
    @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому +9

    Any of you try the V-COM yet? Let me know what happened in the comment section below! Thanks for watching!
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    • @craigr7151
      @craigr7151 Рік тому

      Is it only for large tube? Not the slim line?

    • @carolynlawrence7548
      @carolynlawrence7548 Рік тому +5

      I purchased one from my doctor. They told me that was the only place I could purchase it. Guess that was a lie. That being said, I was able to up my pressure and now the number of times I quit breathing has dropped to less than 1 time per hour. I’m a newbie to all this.

    • @miriamm3780
      @miriamm3780 Рік тому

      Jason, thanks for showing this! I just ordered this to see if it helps keep mask leaks down. I used the discount, so that's a plus! 😍👍🏻😁

    • @JDHood
      @JDHood Рік тому +2

      Question -- should I disable EPR with the VCOM installed? Don't have it yet - just ordered it thru your link & code, Thanks!

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому +1

      Attachments are standard. It will fit on any tube.

  • @NotMyActualName_
    @NotMyActualName_ Рік тому +91

    35 dollars for 8 cents worth of plastic. This is everything wrong with healthcare in america.

    • @yvonnediaz7176
      @yvonnediaz7176 Рік тому +14

      And the company recommends changing it out every 3 months!

    • @NotMyActualName_
      @NotMyActualName_ Рік тому +4

      @@yvonnediaz7176 of course they do. Becsuse people will do it

    • @garzascreek
      @garzascreek Рік тому +7

      @@yvonnediaz7176 - Yeah, all those _moving parts_ will wear out.

    • @miatared
      @miatared Рік тому +6

      Probably 50 cents of plastic. Good margin for all. Mind-numbing.

    • @dandifusco1868
      @dandifusco1868 Рік тому

      I agree. I spent the money and still get chipmunk cheeks just the same and feels very very hard to exhale. I have no clue why these guys are saying this thing is a miracle or whatever. Maybe I'll get used to it but don't know. I use ffm vitara and dreamwear and sucks on both. I don't get it sorry

  • @mshaw290808mi
    @mshaw290808mi Рік тому +65

    Jason you might want to consider taking this video down and having a lawyer review it. I say this because I am not a lawyer, but a mechanical engineer. I see some issues with V-Com; the device looks simple but in engineering it is called a "flow restrictor" so now come answers for a lawyer. If I am promoting a device that significantly changes the behavior (which your data shows) of a critical medical device and someone suffers a critical health issue (like a heart attack) can I be held liable? Another lawyer question; Should I get approval from the manufactures of the CPAP machines before suggesting people use it on their machines? From an engineering view you took data from a standard setup of a CPAP machine and than added a flow restrictor between the machine and the patient and took new data. When you add a flow restrictor into a system it can change a lot of parameters on the other side of the device, the main thing it will change is pressure between the two sides. So in your experiment putting in the flow restrictor you need to have measuring devices after the device to see what parameters it is changing. Since the flow restrictor changes the flow properties on the other side (how much? only way to find out is to run tests) the CPAP machine is now recording parameters in the chamber between the CPAP and the restrictor not what the patient is seeing. The knowledge you have shared in the past has helped me, so I thought I might share some of my knowledge with you that could be helpful.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +4

      Very well put. Notice that nowhere it says on the Sleepres site that it is FDA approved. I saved a copy of this video... for posterity ;-)

    • @Capt-Intrepid
      @Capt-Intrepid Рік тому +11

      An Auto CPAP machine includes several types of sensors including airflow, air pressure, temperature and humidity. This device alters airflow (volume) and is not tested or approved by the manufacturer.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +4

      @@Capt-Intrepid Have you found any FDA documentation? An article in SleepReviewMag states that it was cleared by FDA as a comfort accessory, but I can't find any documentation to back that.

    • @aeonjoey3d
      @aeonjoey3d Рік тому +3

      No one can be held liable for recommending products regardless of their safety. Just like UA-cam can’t be held liable.

    • @nomadsolos
      @nomadsolos Рік тому +3

      You know if there is anything that lawyers can do; is to shut down anyone with a mind from publishing thoughts and ideas to improve the lives of others. (disclaimer, I am not a doctor, or a phyisist, or a cat guy, and thankfully not a lawyer.)

  • @CPAPReviews
    @CPAPReviews Рік тому +21

    Great vid brother, can't wait to check it out!

  • @hdhdhshscbxhdh4195
    @hdhdhshscbxhdh4195 Рік тому +51

    As a sleep medicine physician, use of this v-com device will likely result in suboptimal treatment of your sleep apnea. (Edited) *** want to emphasize that this device is potentially dangerous for patient working in professions that require effective treatment like pilots and truck drivers***. All this device does is reduce the pressure in the mask, by limiting airflow. It will reduce aerophagia and reduce the pressure felt, but same can be accomplished by reducing the pressure the machine is delivering. And there is usually a reason you are supposed to get that much pressure in the first place

    • @kamiharoldbeauty
      @kamiharoldbeauty Рік тому +11

      I’d be happy to send you data showing the opposite to be true. we can slightly decrease IPAP without affecting p90/p95, decreasing residual AHI and unintentional leak, and increasing usage (time).

    • @hdhdhshscbxhdh4195
      @hdhdhshscbxhdh4195 Рік тому +13

      @@kamiharoldbeauty if the patient still get "effective treatment" with this v-com device it likely means either the pressure was set too high in first place, or the method of determining "effective treatment" is flawed. This is just physics (I'm an engineer major and physics minor in undergrad). This device clearly generates resistance to airflow, hence will result in a pressure gradient across it. As a result, the effective pressure in the mask is lowered. It can also affect how well the PAP machine is able to detect respiratory events (depends on the pap machine and the amount of resistance) because you have added resistance between the machine and the patient, affecting the residual AHI reported by the machine.

    • @wfemp_4730
      @wfemp_4730 Рік тому +9

      @@kamiharoldbeauty Wow, the VP of Sales for SleepRes says so? I'm shocked!
      Do you have a citation showing an independent, peer-reviewed study of the V-Com apparatus?

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +3

      @@wfemp_4730 To my knowledge, these don't exist. Even though, according to Kami Harold, the product has been launched already on June 2022.

    • @stevecrim4557
      @stevecrim4557 Рік тому

      As per my post above: I have been taping each side of my nose with water proof tape (a couple of kinds) with a 4mm hole in each to breathe through. It dropped my AHI for 5 or 6 to 0 to 0.5. I've reduced my pressure from 12+ to 7 and about to go lower. I may be N=1 but I'll never do without taping my nostrils unless V-Com works equally as well. For the record I have been doing this for years and feel far better than without it...

  • @wilcharl
    @wilcharl Рік тому +13

    The revolution of CPAP was my roll of cover-roll tape thanks for shilling it on your channel - My wife loves that my mouth is taped shut and my mouth doesn't go dry

    • @embeddedautomation2464
      @embeddedautomation2464 Рік тому +1

      Cover-Roll is fantastic! I've had great results with it too!

    • @dewitubeX1
      @dewitubeX1 4 місяці тому

      I use flat pillow and I haven't seen no more air leak through my mouth in comparison when i used to use 2 pillows to elevate my neck.

  • @coloradodrew
    @coloradodrew Рік тому +28

    Jason, based on your recommendation I started using the vcom 2 weeks ago today. My pressure is at 16 and without the Vcom I was a human puffer fish and was blowing out my tape almost nightly. I was also struggling with aerophagia. Since using the Vcom both issues are 95% resolved. Thank you!👊

    • @chuckbecker8735
      @chuckbecker8735 Рік тому +1

      I want to try it. Anything you wish to give me a heads-up from what you learned from using it??

    • @coloradodrew
      @coloradodrew Рік тому

      @@chuckbecker8735 I am actually testing reducing my pressure and so far so good. Highly recommend it.

    • @chuckbecker8735
      @chuckbecker8735 Рік тому

      @@coloradodrew Thank you, Drew, your kind reply.

    • @BobFile
      @BobFile 11 місяців тому +1

      I tried the VCOM one night and felt like I was having trouble inhaling, did you have any issues with this?

  • @margehinkle8346
    @margehinkle8346 Рік тому +2

    Thank you very much for featuring the V-com. I used it one night & I can’t believe the difference. Compliance will be much easier. 😉

  • @TheArcV
    @TheArcV Рік тому +4

    This flow restrictor completely alters the flow rate on inhalation and also negates the CPAP sensors and programming when it monitors what it thinks the patient is needing. When you look at the data from your device it is mostly falsified since the machine cannot tell what counts as a mouth leak vs. a partially blocked tube which cuts flow rate dramatically. So you look at your charts afterwards and they do not actually represent what is going on. Also the delivered pressure becomes completely inaccurate since the CPAP machine is now only measuring pressures upstream of the device in the tube and not at the mask.
    TLDR: Basically you are partially plugging your tube and expecting that to work seamlessly with the machines pressure delivery and measuring system.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +1

      You're making too much sense ;-)

  • @rquance1
    @rquance1 Рік тому +2

    I bought this V-COM and it has made a great improvement in my leaking mask and helping keep my throat open so much lower numbers from my cpap machine. I have been using it for a few months and the results are great.

    • @BobFile
      @BobFile 11 місяців тому

      I tried the VCOM one night and felt like I was having trouble inhaling, did you have any issues with this?

    • @rquance1
      @rquance1 11 місяців тому +1

      At first I thought there was a restriction on the air flow but raised the APAP min pressure by 1 from 11 to 12 and it seems fine. My current settings are 12 to 17 because I have multiple issues since I was a baby and broke my neck.@@BobFile

  • @snospmoht3252
    @snospmoht3252 Рік тому +4

    Uh...seriously, I didn't hear much difference. Bring on the nerdy. We're here for it. 🤓

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns Рік тому +17

    It's a flow rate restrictor. Keep in mind -- that inrush of air is precisely what maintains the *prescribed pressure* in your airway when you start to inhale. With this restrictor limiting the flow rate, you WILL be reducing the pressure in your airway as you start to inhale, which could allow your airway to begin collapsing at the beginning of your breath if the pressure falls too low.
    Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is a bad product. Just want people to understand that what it's doing is creating a more gradual ramp-up when you start to inhale, which means a lower initial pressure in your airway with each breath. You might need to increase your your CPAP's pressure after you put this restrictor in the hose, which could negate some of its benefit.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +3

      Page 26 of the Sleepres white paper on their site shows that you are correct.

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Рік тому +5

      ​@@cebruthius Thanks for pointing me toward that article. It at least sheds some light into the premise behind this product and either why it works (?) or their marketing strategy. The notion that exhalation pressure is more important (and should be higher) than inhalation pressure is certainly a claim that goes against all current CPAP designs. I'd like to see some legitimate, well-designed and unbiased study into this before I put too much weight into it. For now, all I can say about VCom is that it will create a more gradual pressure rise at the onset of inhalation, and also create a bit more backpressure during exhalation due to the flow restriction acting in both directions. Whether or not that's a good thing... I don't know. Might vary on a person-to-person basis.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +3

      @@400_billion_suns The lack of independent evaluation is a problem, as well as the highly improbable FDA approval "as a comfort accessory." What, like mask liners? Having an implement that modifies the pressure delivery of these devices is on another level, surely the FDA understands that.

    • @wfemp_4730
      @wfemp_4730 Рік тому +1

      @@cebruthius A magazine that promotes sleep products says so? Is there a third-party, independent review?

    • @jtnoodle
      @jtnoodle Рік тому +1

      @@wfemp_4730 Of course not. If there's money to be lost or doesn't benefit the industry financially, it's always a "bad idea".

  • @rickw9008
    @rickw9008 Рік тому +12

    If you’re getting too much pressure and need this to restrict it, instead of buying this gadget couldn’t you get the same effect by lowering the pressure setting on the machine?

    • @kamiharoldbeauty
      @kamiharoldbeauty Рік тому

      Lowering the pressure compromises therapy. Expiratory pressure at end expiration is vital. The V-Com lowers inspiratory pressure and flow without affecting “therapeutic” pressure. P95/p90 remain the same. Much easier and more safe.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +2

      @@kamiharoldbeauty Can you reference any independent studies that support the statement "more safe" ?

    • @diamaunt2782
      @diamaunt2782 Рік тому +1

      @@kamiharoldbeauty No, it's not, otherwise Provent and Theravent wouldn't have gone out of business, hopefully you soon will too.

    • @kamiharoldbeauty
      @kamiharoldbeauty Рік тому

      @@cebruthius I was referring to the fact that decreasing overall pressure would increase respiratory events (and obviously less safe than maintaining therapeutic pressure).

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +1

      @@kamiharoldbeauty Non-published, non-peer reviewed studies perhaps? Nothing prevents you from posting the DOIs here. Your statement on nasal masks is just one of many that are simply not supported by any study. Surely the market leaders ResMed and Philips would like to comment on this...

  • @NameyNames
    @NameyNames Рік тому +5

    I'd very much like to hear what a machine manufacturer such as ResMed has to say about this before even *thinking* about trying it. To me, a flow restrictor makes no sense whatsoever. It appears counterproductive.

    • @craigpurdie3528
      @craigpurdie3528 Рік тому +1

      Thank you for supporting my initial thoughts from 3 days ago. It's BASIC PHYSICS! There WILL be a drop in pressure...DUH! 😀

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому +1

      Brief drop in inspiratory pressure. Expiratory pressure there is no drop.

  • @23Skadoosh
    @23Skadoosh Рік тому +7

    If I wasn’t suffocating enough, there’s VCOM……..

  • @gonfishn
    @gonfishn 10 місяців тому

    Lefty Lenny, if you take a piece of stretch wrap and double it over, putting on the cpap outlet tube, then cut 5 small 1/4"slits then connect rubber end of hose you'll have a free Vcom effect. Same kind of flow, zero cost. No need to get ripped off of $35.

  • @billanderson3346
    @billanderson3346 Рік тому +1

    I'm going to give this a shot. I'm hoping this reduces my mouth leaks which seem to have gotten worse over time, even with a chin strap.

  • @martintech2012
    @martintech2012 7 місяців тому

    First, this device is a simple flow restrictor, not any type of flow regulator. It reduces mass air flow in the ENTIRE system, and reduces PRESSURE at every point DOWNSTREAM (your mask) from where it is installed. CPAP machines are pressure regulated devices, their internal control algorithms (likely PID-based) are constantly varying mass air flow in an attempt to maintain a constant PRESSURE in your airway. What happens when you restrict mass flow in a gas circuit? THE PRESSURE DROPS, after the restriction point! The CPAP itself will maintain a constant pressure against the flow restrictor, but if your lungs are taking in air at a higher flow rate than the restrictor can flow, your airway pressure will drop UNTIL your air intake rate drops below the restrictor's flowrate. So at the beginning of your breath, you are experiencing a pressure drop that the machine can't compensate for, but the pressure may recover toward the end of your breath... I don't know what typical breath flow profile looks like. I have an engineering degree, but am certainly no expert in sleep therapy, so I can't comment on the net effects on therapy. While it reduces pressure in your mask at higher flow rates, it's technically not a 1:1 equivalent of lowering your machine pressure settings, since CPAP is a transient flow process. As others have said, I think you'd be wise to collaborate with a mechanical engineer so you can fully understand what is happening in such a system, and after that, use your sleep therapy knowledge to determine exactly how these effects enhance or limit therapy.
    Note the exact same effect this device produces could also be done algorithmically in the machine - maybe this is kinda how EPR works? I don't know anything about EPR.
    Also, $35 for a 10 cent piece of injection molded plastic should be criminal.

  • @joelhooton2215
    @joelhooton2215 Рік тому +6

    Very cool, for someone on the lower end of pressure, I wonder if it would make sense to jump the pressure up slightly, say from 7-8 up to 10-11 and thrn use this product? My main hesitancy with upping pressure has been the symptoms you mentioned

  • @bitsymother49
    @bitsymother49 4 місяці тому

    Just ordered. Hope it helps me use my EVORA all night! Yes, the blast of air wakes me up and it is overwhelming- and I cannot tolerate the blast.

  • @kenharrison1
    @kenharrison1 7 місяців тому +1

    I've been using the V-COM for a few months now and I've got to tell you. Mouth leaks I was having pre V-COM have disappeared! I agree, this thing is fantastic. Jason, so happy I saw your videos about the V-COM. I left my pressure where it was before the V-COM and the first night or two, it felt a little odd having to breathe in slower, like I was getting slightly air starved. That feeling was gone after a couple of nights. I had previously tried mouth taping using the tape you recommended before I got the V-COM. I didn't really like it. With the V-COM, no tape needed. I started to recommend the V-COM to my sister-in-law but I found out that she uses APAP and you don't really recommend it for APAP. (You don't recommend APAP itself, which caused me to switch over from APAP to CPAP as I had experienced a few "runaway" incidents where whatever I was doing caused the pressure to shoot up to maximum. [My therapist went weak and set it originally to 7 - 20 for APAP.]) I'll leave my sister-in-law to deal with her sleep therapist and won't get involved with having her switch over to CPAP. She doesn't have OSCAR and I don't think that she'd be able to read and interpret the results herself, anyway. I don't want to practice medicine, so we'll leave that right there. Anyway, just wanted to give my two thumbs up for the V-COM. I love it! (EDIT: For the record, I've been on CPAP and more recently APAP, then back to CPAP for over 33 years now!)

  • @KevinLanting
    @KevinLanting Рік тому +5

    Just bought the V-Com based on your recommendation. With the discount code and applying rewards points, my total cost was $15.44. I really look forward to trying this out since I'm a huge mouth leaker. Looking at the before and after Oscar data should be interesting.

    • @DazzlingDanaOfficial
      @DazzlingDanaOfficial Рік тому

      How'd it go? 😊

    • @KevinLanting
      @KevinLanting Рік тому +2

      @@DazzlingDanaOfficial Using the V-Com has been beneficial. I've been using the device for about 30 days now. Waking up with Aerophagia has been pretty well eliminated. Unfortunately, mouth leaking does still occur but does seem to have decreased in frequency. I have yet to review the data, but I do expect to see improvements. It took a few nights to acclimate to using the device and some settings changes to get to a level where I could sleep comfortably.

  • @sheltermutts4185
    @sheltermutts4185 Рік тому +1

    Put this on your garden hose and make a video for us. 😂

  • @Dan-dg9pi
    @Dan-dg9pi Рік тому +12

    Is there any difference for cpap and bipap users?

    • @nomadsolos
      @nomadsolos Рік тому

      I was about to ask that as well. I have aerophagia - reducing the pressure helped some, but AHI increased a little, and mouthleaks, and aerophagia improved byt were not eliminated.

  • @techshabby0001
    @techshabby0001 10 місяців тому

    I woke up 3 times last night with my mouth fused together, just in time to prevent my throat from also fusing together, for a total of 4 1/2 hours of sleep.

  • @deje7086
    @deje7086 Рік тому +1

    Totally a rip off, i was given 2 and it made no difference. I gave one to my neighbor on cpap and he said the same thing.

  • @lizardlizarraga5984
    @lizardlizarraga5984 Рік тому +2

    Will definitely give it a go....soon as it's back in stock😂

  • @BLenz-114
    @BLenz-114 Рік тому +11

    So, It looks to me to just be a flow limiter. Some holes in an otherwise blocked tube. Is there something more to it than that? Little flaps I can't see?
    So, A) I'd be interested to see what Resp. Dr.s and equip manuf have to say. Not that their opinion is necessarily correct, but I'd like to hear it. I feel like this thing is kinda running roughshod over flow rates, etc.
    B) Is this making the machine work harder to push the required pressure thru those holes? Is that going to reduce service life?
    Just some initial thoughts . . .

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому +2

      It is 100% a flow limiter, but not EPAP limiter. Not mentioned in the video, but it is a pulmonologist sleep medicine physician that invented this.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +2

      @@Freecpapadvice Can you supply some DOIs for the medical research papers published on this device? Or the name of this person so I can do a search?

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому

      Ok, I found it out myself. His name is William H Noah MD and he co-authored one article in 2021 besides the Sleepres white paper.

    • @diamaunt2782
      @diamaunt2782 Рік тому +1

      Ask yourself why Resmed has an Anti-Bacterial (AB) filter setting in their machines, AB filters provide a *little* flow limitation... Yet Resmed feels it's important to *compensate* for that by having a setting in their machines (All their bilevel machines have that setting, some of the CPAP/APAP machines do too, but it's more important for a bilevel.)

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому

      @@diamaunt2782 And it's going to distort (make meaningless) the graphs in OSCAR right?

  • @jbsimmons54
    @jbsimmons54 8 місяців тому

    Thank you! I ordered a V-COM device with the discount code after waking up with canker sores after too much CPAP pressure forcing my mouth open.

    • @dewitubeX1
      @dewitubeX1 4 місяці тому +1

      use a flat pillow to greatly minimize mouth leak. see if it works, it works for me.

  • @eddies262
    @eddies262 9 місяців тому +1

    I only have the heated tubing how can this work with that?

  • @losg313
    @losg313 Рік тому +6

    Well, because of your recommendation when I had to up my pressure to 16 I was having really bad burping and gas in my stomach then you said to try this ...THANK-YOU!! it definitely made a huge difference I will admit it took a couple days to get use to it but now it's made a huge improvement on my ( aerophagia )

    • @BobFile
      @BobFile 11 місяців тому

      tried the VCOM one night and felt like I was having trouble inhaling, did you have any issues with this?

  • @kirby8538
    @kirby8538 Рік тому +1

    Must be popular as it is out of stock with Amazon and CPAP supplies. Will get one as soon as back in stock.

  • @JohnEllis-wt1ij
    @JohnEllis-wt1ij 11 місяців тому +1

    I placed an order for the V-COM and I use the F30i mask. I do not like the idea of going without the heated hose since I have significant nasal congestion. I'll see what happens.

    • @jbsimmons54
      @jbsimmons54 8 місяців тому

      Interesting. I run at 9.6 - 12. My new doc w/o asking me bumped it up to 30. Hell NO!!! Blew my mouth open and filled my GI tract with air! I made him change it back to 12. He says not much diff between 9.6 and 12. There certainly is. Above 10 I get dry mouth and blown lips, even with chin strap. But it does keep my sinuses open. Side sleeper here and when I do, the sinus closest to the pillow stops up. CPAP eradicated that problem. I can't use heated tuning and I hate it because it dries out my sinuses. So I use reg tubing. Getting the V-COM hoping my lips will stay closed... When it senses open mouth leaks, it likes to ramp up pressure quickly and won't back down. Have to reset it via power cycle. Main complaint is sinuses, not apnea. I think we may be alike in symptoms. A friend of mine who has BIPAP says I should ask for that instead of CPAP. I use a ResMed N20 nose piece. Adding a nose/mouth piece negates opening sinuses.

  • @gilrose12345
    @gilrose12345 Рік тому +16

    Doesn't it restrict airflow and give the CPAP machine wrong information?

    • @bryman31
      @bryman31 Рік тому +3

      thats what i was thinking too

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому +1

      It does restrict airflow, but not EPAP. Hard to wrap my head around it until I actually tried it. Makes breathing silky smooth.
      I don't understand what you mean by wrong information though.

    • @michaelcohen5557
      @michaelcohen5557 Рік тому +1

      @@Freecpapadvice It doesn't effect your sleep data if that is what he is asking.

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Рік тому +6

      Yes. It's a flow rate restrictor, which will have the effect of creating a more gradual pressure ramp-up in your airway and lungs as you begin to inhale. But the CPAP machine won't be able to see/measure that -- it will only report the measured pressure ahead of the restrictor (on the machine side). In fact, it will cause the CPAP to deliver even less air overall, because the pressure in the tube ahead of the restrictor will rise more quickly due to the restrictor, and the CPAP will back off the flow rate to maintain the prescribed pressure *in the hose* .
      I honestly can't see any way this device won't cause a pressure drop in the airway for a portion of each inhaled breath vs. the same CPAP without it. It *will* reduce the airway pressure below the prescribed pressure as you begin to inhale. Air flow physics are akin to electricity - you have pressure (analogous to voltage), mass flow rate (analogous to current), and flow resistance (analogous to electrical resistance). Just like an electric circuit, you can't change one without affecting the others. If you increase flow resistance, you decrease flow rate, unless you increase pressure. A CPAP machine is designed to maintain a stable and consistent pressure in the hose, so this device will reduce flow rate, and cause a pressure reduction in the airway. (I am an engineer by day and have a background in fluid dynamics, FWIW.)

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +1

      @@Freecpapadvice Of course it restricts airflow. It literally occludes a part of the cross section of the circuit (facepalm)

  • @denkn
    @denkn Рік тому

    I run my Dreamstation 2 at 12 right now. No tape because of a mustache that's older than I am.
    Main problem I'm having is dry mouth, I guess you call it Aerophagia? Anyway, I ordered the V-Com just now and am anxious to see how it works.
    Thanks Jason! ! !

  • @Knards
    @Knards Рік тому +1

    On sale for $30.00, with the skinny guys discount I paid $24.93

  • @picturemethis
    @picturemethis Рік тому +2

    I use a full mask and have been noticing my machine will ramp the pressure and wake me up because it never goes back down and I have to shut the machine off. Will this work with a full face?

  • @williamheitl8941
    @williamheitl8941 Рік тому +4

    If the device changes the airflow between it and the mask, how do you know that the data collected by the CPAP machine and analyzed via Oscar is accurate. I would think a device that modifies flow with no way to tell the CPAP machine what change was made will make the data inaccurate.

  • @azjack827
    @azjack827 Рік тому +4

    I’m on a biPAP ResMed airCurve 10 ASV pressure 14.4 exp 6.8 So how do u think this will work O btw I use tape and air fit p10 pillow Thanks 🙏 😊

  • @K7SJA
    @K7SJA Рік тому +1

    It's SOLD OUT of both Amazon and CPAP Supplies. Waiting. . .

  • @jTempVids
    @jTempVids Рік тому +1

    Very Interesting. At the moment, $26 is still a little high for me to pull the trigger on something that may not help.

  • @ToJoMayer
    @ToJoMayer 7 місяців тому

    Thank you. Wish we could get some of these in the lab. I’d love to assess all data relative to its addition to the circuit.

  • @wallyfirkins1664
    @wallyfirkins1664 Рік тому +5

    Lefty, will the V-COM be appropriate for b-level therapy? I have COPD and my settings are 14/10. Thanks.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому

      Very good question........that is going to be included in a future video. So sorry to do that to you Wally!

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому

      But no. 😉

  • @Rittleturtle
    @Rittleturtle Рік тому

    Ordered! Thank you so much any info to help my husband is appreciated! Also short to the point video was extremely helpful,

  • @timoleary313
    @timoleary313 Рік тому +4

    ?? Restrict the air flow??

  •  Рік тому +3

    That's simple to design and 3D print.

  • @adamfilip
    @adamfilip 3 місяці тому

    not helpful is your pressure is less than 10. especially if your start ramp is like 6.. it feels like its not enough air..

  • @stevecrim4557
    @stevecrim4557 2 місяці тому

    After using it for about a year I finally removed it and my sleep is back to normal. I had no clue I was having little awakenings throughout the night. Not blaming the V-COM but they are gone now. If you are having issues and using it, you might want to consider going without it for a few days and see how you feel

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  2 місяці тому

      Did you increase the pressure by 1 or 2 when you put vcom in?

    • @stevecrim4557
      @stevecrim4557 2 місяці тому

      @@Freecpapadvice Only after you recommend that due to lots of RERAs. V-COM reduced my AHI and looked like it was going to be wonderful. However my sleep got worse and worse but I just assumed it was just me. Then recently you did a video on the little bumps in the chart that don't show as anything but are awakenings. In Sleepy Head I went back to before and after V-COM. The bumps started then. I removed it several days ago and they are gone. It may just be me, others may do great but I think I am better off without it.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  2 місяці тому

      @@stevecrim4557 Gotcha. You could also leave VCOM in (if it was being used to assist in another aspect of your therapy) and increase the pressure in that situation.

    • @stevecrim4557
      @stevecrim4557 2 місяці тому

      @@Freecpapadvice Thank you - I think I better stay with what's working (for me) for now. I had a full year of feeling like I did before CPAP (about 8 months of that was with a pressure increase of 1) Because it reduced my AHI, I was impressed. I would still be using it if you hadn't done the video on the little bumps on the chart actually being awakenings. That set my alarm off to go look. There are not enough thanks yous to thank you but thank you...

  • @TheVirtualFuture-By-WB
    @TheVirtualFuture-By-WB 8 місяців тому

    Thanks.. High Altitude Colorado Springs here.. -Order placed , will try out this expensive simple decice.. Cheers.

  • @mscar1987
    @mscar1987 8 місяців тому

    I heard you say, on one of your videos ( I can’t remember which one ) that you would review our SleeepHQ info and do a consult. I could really use some help.

  • @tinawright1027
    @tinawright1027 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for info and code. Headed over to order.

  • @ac27934
    @ac27934 Рік тому +5

    Would this undermine the effectiveness of ASV?

    • @danyelle6525
      @danyelle6525 Рік тому +2

      I’d like to know too!!

    • @TheSummerDriven
      @TheSummerDriven Рік тому +1

      I wouldn't use this with ASV, that flow limitation could trigger some interesting things with the dynamic IPAP trigger.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +1

      @@TheSummerDriven This is going to mess up waveform recording (OSCAR) on normal CPAP too but that won't be noticed as fast

    • @danyelle6525
      @danyelle6525 Рік тому

      @@TheSummerDriven I’d think it would have trouble when you are having a central event, like it wouldn’t be able to rush/push in enough air to make a breath. I’ve been trying to get on his freecpapadvice now, for weeks now I just keep getting errors and not getting on, anyone else having any issues getting that freecpapadvice??

    • @kamiatou
      @kamiatou Рік тому +1

      Not recommended for use with ASV. That is also spelled out on the SleepRes website

  • @Capt-Intrepid
    @Capt-Intrepid Рік тому +8

    I'm concerned this will adversely affect treatment. An Auto CPAP machine includes several types of sensors including airflow, air pressure, temperature and humidity. This device alters airflow (volume). I would think this device might be appropriate for either: 1. New patient having serious trouble adapting. 2. Existing patient with serious unresolved mouth leaks or air swallowing. Consult with your CPAP professional before altering your treatment. If you're not in one of those categories, I certainly wouldn't alter your machine with a device not tested or approved by the manufacturer.

    • @craigfox8446
      @craigfox8446 Рік тому

      Hello, it doesn't affect your treatment at all.

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +7

      @@craigfox8446 Based on what knowledge?

    • @diamaunt2782
      @diamaunt2782 Рік тому +1

      @@cebruthius well, the people that are shilling it, of course!

    • @craigpurdie3528
      @craigpurdie3528 Рік тому

      THANK YOU!

  • @aeonjoey3d
    @aeonjoey3d Рік тому

    Dammit it’s sold out, we too live at 5000 ft elevation (5280 to be exact) and both my partner and I use CPAPs, and both have mouth leak and difficulties, I’m desperate - but it’s SOLD OUT everywhere!!!!!

  • @miryanacolton5674
    @miryanacolton5674 5 місяців тому

    Thanks - just got one to try it and the coupon still works and big saving - great.
    I also just got the Bleep Eclipse halos to try
    Going to be a bit of an experiment coming up.
    Kinda dreading it though - wish me luck.

  • @veryberry39
    @veryberry39 Рік тому +3

    I was real excited but uh, I wouldn't pay more than like $10 for a little piece of plastic. (I get it, I know someone had to come up with the idea, and all the testing, etc but man, that's really steep. Although I'm also poor, so.)

    • @jellybeansi
      @jellybeansi Рік тому +2

      The piece itself looks very simple (I could model it myself), so I imagine someone could 3D-print this and sell it at a super cheap price point. That would be awesome.

    • @wfemp_4730
      @wfemp_4730 Рік тому +2

      I'd think it could be duplicated pretty cheaply with a 3-D printer. $30 seems outrageous to me.

  • @cebruthius
    @cebruthius Рік тому +1

    Jason, Kami Harold said that this product hasb een on the market since June of 2022. I noticed this video was marked "exclusive access." That doesn't make sense to me, to get exclusive access to a product that has launched almost a year ago.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому

      I have no idea what you're talking about. The video is set to public. I don't know what you mean by "exclusive access". EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!! 😂

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому

      @@Freecpapadvice Nevermind. The "exclusive access" label was applied to the video by the SponsorBlock community. (i.e. the entire video is an ad)

  • @giselec.7806
    @giselec.7806 Рік тому +4

    Could you test an AB filter? Maybe it will have the same effect 🤔

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому

      Yep, you're on to something.

    • @kamiharoldbeauty
      @kamiharoldbeauty Рік тому

      A viral/bacterial filter is an unknown amount of uncompensated resistance. Definitely not the same thing.

    • @diamaunt2782
      @diamaunt2782 Рік тому

      @@kamiharoldbeauty So, is everything you're babbling such utter nonsense, oh, wait, it IS!
      AB filters are a *KNOWN* amount of resistance, Resmed bilevels have an AB filter setting *TO COMPENSATE FOR THE EXTRA FLOW RESISTANCE*.
      They don't have a setting to compensate for your scam, therefore, people will suffer lower pressures during inhalation.

  • @victorurbina2944
    @victorurbina2944 4 місяці тому

    So with V Com should you shut EPR off? Should you engage EPR between 1 to 3 depending on higher cmH20?

  • @NateHarrisCreations
    @NateHarrisCreations 3 місяці тому

    So you suppose to cut off the EPR setting on your cpap if you use this device?

  • @colt10mmsecurity68
    @colt10mmsecurity68 Місяць тому

    Is the v-com like the ResMed AirFit F20 CPAP Mask QuietAir Elbow? I see that it too like the v-com diffuses air. Should I use the v-com in conjunction with the ResMed elbow or would it just cause me problems with using both?

  • @marcus_ohreallyus
    @marcus_ohreallyus Рік тому

    I felt like absolute garbage after using that thing. Taking it out.

  • @theschoolpsych
    @theschoolpsych Рік тому +1

    Crap so we can't use it with a climate line? I should have watched the whole video before ordering. I use the Respironics mask too.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому

      You can use it with climate line.

    • @theschoolpsych
      @theschoolpsych Рік тому

      @@Freecpapadvice But at the top of the head where it’s still louder correct? I thought that’s what I gathered from your example. Thanks for the response! Appreciate it!

    • @theschoolpsych
      @theschoolpsych Рік тому

      So I used it last night. I like it! I used your discount code as well. Thanks! Should EPR be turned off? I like EPR without it but wasn’t sure if EPR had to be turned off on the Autoset since it doesn’t work with bipap.

  • @canuckchris5733
    @canuckchris5733 Місяць тому

    I’ve seen this on the Aussie Nicks channel too I’m in those pressure ranges at 15
    Do you think it might help with mask leaks on Epson 2

  • @Gebomartin215
    @Gebomartin215 Рік тому +1

    Does not work for me. Made it hard to breathe in and out. My max pressure runs around 9. I felt like someone was trying to suffocate me.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  Рік тому

      So on APAP? I wouldn't count on APAP getting you to the correct pressure. Also wouldn't use VCOM for pressures less than 10 without EPR on.

    • @Gebomartin215
      @Gebomartin215 Рік тому

      @@Freecpapadvice I run on auto 7-11 no ramp and full time EPR. I use the tape you recommended to seal my mouth. I burp all day. LOL. My max is around 9. To give it a fair shake, what you recommend?

  • @colingrant4690
    @colingrant4690 Рік тому +1

    Got V-com ordered, have Dreamwear nasal mask, and ordered a regular hose to use instead of my Climate Line Air Tubing so I can install the V-com on the machine side to reduce noise as you showed in your video. On V-com site they say if you are using a heated tube, you may need a tube extension(Resmed 60926 Inlet Tube with Swivel Assembly) So..... If you used the heated tube and put the V-com at the mask end of the heated tube and then used the 60926 inlet tube from the V-com going to your mask would that also solve the noise issue?? Or would it still be so close to the mask to not make a difference? Thank you for your videos, switched from apap to cpap yesterday after watching one, and OMG what a positive difference in so many areas!!

  • @donnakidd6163
    @donnakidd6163 Рік тому

    I just ordered it, thanks LL! Hopefully it will help keep my mouth closed!🤤

  • @dandifusco1868
    @dandifusco1868 Рік тому

    I still get puffy cheeks on 13 and feels very hard to exhale. I may have wasted 30 bucks. I dont know. Does nothing for me

  • @SajidKhan-kt6rz
    @SajidKhan-kt6rz Рік тому +3

    Does it work on BIPAP?

  • @lynneanilsonthibodaux9220
    @lynneanilsonthibodaux9220 Рік тому +1

    Fascinated by this thing. I have a Resmed S10 Auto, usually only pressure of about 7 or 8. I do wake up with dry mouth, so prob mouth breathing (I should use tape). I like the p30i with the top connector but don’t want to give up my heated hose in order to install the device at the back of the machine with el cheapo hose (is there another way?). Also (heard you mention) would I feel starved for air with this? I don’t even use ramp for that reason. My AHI - always under 5, usually less than 2. CPAP therapy for almost 2 decades, never miss a night. Always looking for improved sleep! Appreciate your channel here! Subscriber here! If I take the leap for this, I’ll use your link. It’s a reasonable price! Thanks!

    • @deje7086
      @deje7086 Рік тому +1

      Run, this piece of junk might KILL YOU

  • @BritinCanada
    @BritinCanada Рік тому +1

    Why not just place a suit button in the End of the tubing it has 4 holes in it .

  • @JohnMutch
    @JohnMutch 9 місяців тому

    Offer still works ❤ thanks for all you do

  • @miatared
    @miatared Рік тому

    I'm going to wait for a 3D printed version.... Medical grade plastic obviously 😊

  • @buster7659
    @buster7659 Рік тому

    Cpap supplies ran out of the product after your video aired. I’m still waiting on mine

  • @samstinkeringaround8961
    @samstinkeringaround8961 Рік тому

    So 1 out of 2 isn't so bad , I tried out the Resmed Air touch F20 memory foam full face. I like the mask better than any other. The V-com is super loud like too much for anyone to be able to sleep around you.

  • @garrettmineo
    @garrettmineo 11 місяців тому

    This thing is priced way too high, no excuse for that. It is a orfice plate and must affect the flow and probably adjustment would need to be made to have the same pressure/flow at the mask, by the time that is corrected the sound and other effects will likely be similar, in addition the CPAP machine certainly must work harder to push through the obstructed line. This is not to say that some improvements can’t be made, for example some way to improve laminar flow through the tubing and mask, but such changes need to be made with consideration of the entire system. I think flow, pressure, motor amperage and sound level measurements would be a much more precise way to evaluate devices such as this.

  • @gonfishn
    @gonfishn 10 місяців тому

    I don't have a problem with a business making a profit however I do have an issue when a business bends over consumers and totally rips them off. Vcom is that company. They could easily sell that for $4.95 and still make a killing on it. I will never support a company like that.

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  10 місяців тому

      Devils advocate: you don't know what the costs were to bring it to market.
      I don't know what line of work you're in, but if you told me your prices I (or anyone) would probably have a similar reaction.

  • @Adrian.Fremling
    @Adrian.Fremling 5 місяців тому

    I've started cpap a month ago, (full face mask), what annoyed me the most (apart from being uncomfortable) is that my mouth gets extremely dry, despite increased humidity ect! Wondering if this thing might help with this?

    • @Freecpapadvice
      @Freecpapadvice  5 місяців тому

      VCOM wouldn't help at all......but this will: ua-cam.com/video/l7pEw7IvfcE/v-deo.html

  • @rickadkinson6539
    @rickadkinson6539 Рік тому

    The links to purchase VCOM do NOT work

  • @nytess2
    @nytess2 Рік тому +1

    I just got it for $16.00 your discount code and $8 in credit card points

  • @deje7086
    @deje7086 Рік тому +1

    Dont waste your time and mostly money. If he really cares why not give it for free !!!

  • @bethharwo
    @bethharwo 6 місяців тому

    I am having a really tough time with aerophagia. So much so, I was switched to a bipap. But, I'm still having experiencing aerophagia. Can I use this with the bipap?

  • @KPHVAC
    @KPHVAC Рік тому +6

    Would this restrict pressure or are CPAP machines smart enough to ramp up so the same pressure is achieved? I'm in HVAC and closing off vents in your home can cause massive airflow problems. That can hurt your furnace or air handler. Restricting airflow is often a really bad idea!

    • @jtnoodle
      @jtnoodle Рік тому +2

      I can see your concern with a straight CPAP where the pressure is not variable and might cause the blower motor to fail early, however auto-PAP's are variable, thus designed to deal with multiple restrictions--for hours at a time.
      Is anyone even on straight CPAP anymore? Seems like old tech by todays standards.

    • @KPHVAC
      @KPHVAC Рік тому

      @@jtnoodle You're probably right. The CPAP motor is designed to overcome airflow restrictions. A furnace fan isn't designed to handle any restrictions. Unfortunately, contractors don't follow the rules, and constantly undersize ductwork. Make sure your HVAC contractor runs a static pressure test. If they don't you shouldn't use that company.

    • @diamaunt2782
      @diamaunt2782 Рік тому +2

      They're not smart enough when you *lie to them*, which is what this will cause. This $0.05 piece of mass produced plastic is throwing a big flow restriction into the CPAP hose.
      Resmed's are so finely adjusted that they have mask type settings for the different resistances that full face, nasal, and pillow masks add to the airflow circuit. (Something that Philips copied in their mask resistance settings, only they did it by putting numbers on the masks, and telling you to go pound sand if you bought a different brand mask).
      Anybody that puts a manometer on their mask is going to find very poorly regulated pressure.
      I'm surprised Jason fell for this shit. I invite him to put a manometer as close to the mask as possible and see what it does to the mask pressures.

    • @KPHVAC
      @KPHVAC Рік тому +1

      @@diamaunt2782 That's exactly what my concern was. Restricting air flow can cause massive problems. Especially when that pressure is what keeps me breathing at night! I have a manometer but I really don't want to waste $30 on a piece of plastic.

    • @kamiharoldbeauty
      @kamiharoldbeauty Рік тому

      @@diamaunt2782 how about in the airway? Forget “to the face.” I’ll send you all the vcoms you want to do this research AGAIN. And to dig into the type of research and testing that was done when the manufacturers you hold so dear, put mask compensation algorithms on their machines. Did they test pressure to the “face” of a simulator? Or in the airway of a real patient? ……

  • @jerryhansen5116
    @jerryhansen5116 Рік тому +4

    CPAPers get screwed again I don't doubt that it works, but it's a 25 cent piece of plastic for 30 bucks.

  • @kathycampbell6798
    @kathycampbell6798 Рік тому

    1 week using the vcom and sleeping longer with all days below .5, several days, some with only a hypopnea! I'm going to turn off the epr so hoping to sleep even better. I'm after sleeping longer and not waking up during the night, ahis are already good enough.

    • @BobFile
      @BobFile 11 місяців тому

      I tried the VCOM one night and felt like I was having trouble inhaling, did you have any issues with this?

  • @msendowski
    @msendowski Рік тому

    dumb question but which side goes into the mask . thanks

  • @Petioptrv
    @Petioptrv Рік тому +4

    Hey Jason, that looks awesome. Is it good for BiPAP?

    • @jeffcoombes3598
      @jeffcoombes3598 Рік тому

      I'd like to know that too

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому

      I can guarantee that it is going to screw with trigger/cycle timing on BiPAP.

    • @Petioptrv
      @Petioptrv Рік тому

      Their website says it’s good for BiPAP

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Рік тому +1

      @@Petioptrv They say a lot of other dubious stuff on their site so there's that

  • @karenchapmam5641
    @karenchapmam5641 3 місяці тому

    I have a F 20 mask will the Vcom Work with it what do you think?

  • @bleednate
    @bleednate 10 місяців тому

    How does this fair with a BIPAP? (I haven't watched the whole video yet, so I may edit this after I actually finish this video.)

  • @VintageVet-64
    @VintageVet-64 10 місяців тому

    Lanky, have you investigated modifying a silicone SCUBA mouthpiece to stop mouth leaking? I have been using BIPAP with nose pillows for decades, have a mustache and beard that I'm too fond of, and have mouth leak issues. It seems to me using silicone caulk (aquarium safe) to close up the port in the mouthpiece should work well. What do you think?

  • @GuntherSnaps
    @GuntherSnaps 6 місяців тому

    bought it. hope it helps

  • @samstinkeringaround8961
    @samstinkeringaround8961 Рік тому

    I'll give some feed back

  • @blazejp0601
    @blazejp0601 6 місяців тому

    What about the crazy flow limitations you got in your graphs Jason?

  • @LisaF_
    @LisaF_ Рік тому

    I’m ordering this today! I’ll report back.

  • @bernadetteburns
    @bernadetteburns Рік тому

    I cannot buy on your site as it will not come to Australia 😮

  • @en2oh
    @en2oh 3 місяці тому

    What, if any impact does this have on machine algorithms?

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 Рік тому

    0:01 that's Papr-Punk to you Lefty!

  • @jackrandom4893
    @jackrandom4893 Рік тому

    Is this only for people who use the nasal mask? Does it help with full face mask? Would it be safe with the full face?

  • @ralwoe
    @ralwoe 7 місяців тому

    I have my doubts about this device. All you're doing is restricting the airflow.

  • @riknbkr330
    @riknbkr330 Рік тому +2

    Interesting little device. I noticed in your charts, specifically the flow limits channel showing what I think are excessive flow limit spikes. What were you're 95% numbers for flow limit? And as mentioned in the comments, this device is effectively a flow limiter. Is it affecting that particular chart? Just curious. May try this out once stock is replenished. Thanks for the video.