I believe Joey was chosen as one of the legendary duelists because even while frozen in the Duel Monsters Spirit World, they saw Joey survive an attack from an Egyptian God and Hermos called dibs
I really want them to expand this archetype more, dark magician girl could definitely use some additional fusion forms, critias needs a way to cheat out its fusions without running the bricky traps, and hermos needs so many additional options
Could you imagine the equipment he could make if he joined Jaden’s deck, all three versions. Heroes, Neos, Evil Heros. Imagine a Gran Mole equipped item.
Sam forgot to mention that The Eye of Timeaus can act as fusion substitute for every other Dark Magician/Girl fusion: Dark Calvery, The Dark Magicians, Dark Flare Knight, Master of Chaos, Dark Paladin, Dark Magician the Magical Dragon Knight, Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon edit: Sam forgot to mention the anime exclusive Big Bang Dragon Blow which Joey made fusing Valon's Big Bang Blow with The Claw of Hermos
The fun thing about Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon is that it's now kind of an important monster in a modern Blue-Eyes deck. You banish a "Wishes for Eyes of Blue" spell in your graveyard to equip your normal Blue-Eyes with either Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or the original Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, then you can immediately special summon Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon by sacrificing the equipped Blue-Eyes. If you used Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon for this, that guarantees you a single target protection. But if you use the original Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, that can set you up to fusion summon Dragon Master Magia. Not only that, but since Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon is unaffected by Trap effects, it is the perfect monster to have on the field while you have the True Light trap out, since it won't go to the graveyard when True Light is destroyed, and you can also bring back True Light after Tyrant attacks. The new Blue-Eyes support is an absolute godsend because of how much it actually fixes most of the problems in the archetype and gives what was once an irrelevant monster a real chance to shine.
I currently run Blue eyes on Master duel. Tyrant is my most common fusion summons and saves my behind more often than not. I am looking forward to the support as it will make my deck significantly more streamlined and consistent.
I run a 40 card blue-eyes that can reliably turn one a Chaos Max and play through most interactions. I’m thinking about putting together the FTK Blue-Eyes deck I once had irl since I can also usually get two blue-eyes and an alt out. Three of the same name for a 9k direct hit to the life points is insanity, but I’ve done it before.
From time to time, Konami prints cards based on monsters that are technically in the anime but were actually never summoned. That's how we got cards like Cosmic Blazar Dragon (Yusei's Delta Accel Synchro monster from an erased timeline) and Clorless, Chaos King of Dark World (was going to be summoned via Super Poly but the Super Poly card was created improperly, causing the summon to fail). Who knows, maybe the insect Timaeus fusion might become a thing someday. Maybe the fusion monster itself will require you to discard Eye of Timaeus as part of its summoning requirement in order to bypass the card's ties to the Dark Magician archetype.
The eye of Timaeus can transform a monster card into a dragon rider. The fang of critias can transform a trap card into a trap dragon. The claw of hermos can transform a monster card into a mystical weapon.
I liked how Atem was there with Joey when Hermos was released from its prison since they’re both best friends and it’s just one of my favourite moments from the Waking the Dragons’ Arc. Also if Yugi had managed to fuse Timaeus with the Poison Butterfly, hypothetically, I think its name would be Poison Dragon Timaeus. Please do the Libromancers next
I love Critias most of the three dragons, though all of them are really cool. But there was just something so cool about fusion a dragon with a trap card to make a monster version of that trap. Helped that the first one I saw was Mirror Force Dragon, which child me thought was just the most awesome thing ever.
Best filler. Best Cards. Best story. Obviously I am Greek but still. This was the greatest thing on Yu-Gi-Oh. My favourite storyline. Hope all of these cards were op irl like in the anime.
I need Hermos to get more fusions. I know it's the weakest of the 3 dragons, but he needs more love, especially if they use some more of the monsters he used (Jinzo, Insect Queen, Legendary Fisherman, etc.)
Ive always loved the waking the dragons arc and I loved the legendary dragons. They should make more fusions for them. Sure a lot of People won't use them but it would be a fun gimmick to see some more critias and Hermos fusions.
I love the fusions. The idea of fusing Spells with Traps to make new monsters. I love Kaiba's Fusion Monsters. And I normally use Eye of Timaeus and his Fusion Monsters in my Dark Magician Decks.
Critias/Shadow Spell fusion is just begging to be made. Dark Magician of Chaos and Timaeus also needs a fusion (Japan should just have Dark Magician of Chaos be treated as a "Dark Magician" monster).
Right?!? Like I run hermos in any deck that plays dragons and even in the side deck if I’m playing someone else that uses dragons because that attack boost is GNARLY
This was a great video Sam, I loved learning more about the legendary dragons. I really hope at some point Konami makes the Posion Moth fusion for more support
I never understood the dislike the waking of the dragons arc gets. The Kaiba + Yugi v Dartz dual is hands down one of the most epic anime duals from Dual Monsters and all the dragon fusions are just so damn cool. Also Joey and Valon armor anyone???
the only thing I dislike about that Arc is what they did to Mai...besides that I realy like it (and as a kid I always wanted these legendary Dragon cards and fusions in real life, so I'm happy that they exist in the TCG now^^)
*pushes glasses up. Erm, well actually, Plato's dialogues were written by Plato. The character 'Socrates' in the dialogues sometimes functions as the mouthpiece for Plato's views, and in other dialogues the character seems to represent Plato's teacher, the actual person "Socrates." And the Dialogues were written about 2400 years ago in our timeline - long after the 5000 years ago where the ancient Egyptians used dark magic and long, long after the 10 000 years ago Dartz's Atlantis was around . . . 7600 years of Power Creep explains a lot
One thing I feel like this archetype needs is a way to use the dragon’s power without having the named card in your hand (or on the field in Timeaus’s case). My idea for these cards is to use Chris, Sky, and Chris’s Grandfather (forgot his name, check to see if someone else already answered before commenting). Sky can special summon itself by revealing Timeaus and then becomes Dark Magician (or Dark Magician Girl if needed); Chris can be treated as any type of monster you want for Hermos or any trap card for Critias; and Chris’s Grandfather can substitute for any of the dragons and if used for Legend of Heart’s cost will increase your LP by 1000 and let you draw a card. Another thing the archetype needs is a way to bring out a single knight without wasting Legend of Heart, either temporarily or like using the proper spell. My idea for these later is a reference to when the dragons are first awakened and it’s called “Breaking of the Orichalcos Curse” and while it still needs to banish a legendary dragon, it doesn’t need the LP or a tribute; BUT it can only banish 1 legendary dragon and it has a hard once per turn. The former option would either be a quick-play spell or a trap, don’t have any ideas beyond that. I’ve thought about this a lot, a character in a story I’m tinkering with involving putting the Waking of Dragons in the manga-verse uses a deck around all three dragons.
Worth noting that Eye Of Timeaus works for ANY Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl fusion making it essentially a substitute for some other more complex summons like Dark Flare Knight and Dark Paladin. It’s really useful if you are going for a Dark Magician themed deck.
I love these cards. I run the entire Critias set in my lair of darkness deck and half of the Hermos set in my red-eyes flame swordsman deck. No one expects a legendary dragon fusion to show up these days.
Fun fact in the hermos fusion cards you can see the shadow/outline of the cards used in the fusion summon. Time Wizard, Red Eyes, Rocket Warrior and Queens Knight
Hermos was stabbed in the claw so his wound would be the center of his palm and covered by the armor Cirtias was stabbed beneath his jaw so it would be visible unless he looked straight upward
@@GAMEFAN27 Nope, pay close attention to the video next time. He explains that the Infinite Atk was reached by absorbing effects and attacking each other.
I like to think that the knights true look are unknown or that the dragons choose the human form of their choice and choose to look like the hero they chose
In the Japanese version, darts didn’t know they had human forms. And Pegasus found out they could be released from their dragon forms hence the card he made
here's an idea for the other 2 united dragon that we haven't gotten yet: Critias the United Dragon Level 8, Light, Dragon, 2800 Atk/1000 Def effect: if you have at least 1 "Eyes of Blue", "white stone", "Maiden of White", "Azure-Eyes" or "Blue-Eyes" monster on your field, you can special summon this cad from your hand. During your Main Phase, you can reveal one Dragon fusion monster in your Extra Deck that mentions a trap card, send that mentioned trap card & this monster from your hand and/or field to the GY (if the mentioned trap card is facedown, reveal it) special summon that monster from your Extra Deck (this is treated as a fusion summon) Hermos the United Dragon level 8, Light, Dragon, Atk 2800/ Def: 1000 effect: if you control a Light Warrior, Light Spellcaster or Dark Dragon, you can special summon this card from your hand. During your main phase, you can reveal one Fusion Monster in you Extra Deck with the same Atk, Def & Attribute as another monster on your field, send this card, and that monster to the gy, special summon that fusion monster from your Extra Deck (this is treated as a Fusion summon)
I think it is also worth mentioning that The Eye of Timaeus can fusion summon ANY fusion monster listing a "Dark Magician" monster as material, so you could use it to summon Dark Paladin, Dark Flare Knight, and even Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon (if you really wanted to, Red-Eyes Fusion is more optimal) with only a single Dark Magician as material for each.
Exactly, the others not listed here being Dark Cavalry, Dark Magician the Knight of Dragon Magic, The Dark Magicians as well as Master of Chaos, the issue with the spell itself, is that it is not very easily searchable.
Great video! Always loved those knights. It made me think of a concept of video for you : what if Yugi didn't lose his gods in the Waking the dragon arc ? Do you think Timaeus woud have merged with of the gods or ex ?
In terms of the scars for hermos and critias I would want to add something. Technically the scars could be there we just don't see them. For example hermos has his scar on his hand meaning there could be a hole in his hand hidden by his glow. So even if a finger is missing you don't see it since glows still have 5 fingers. For critias you don't see the lower part of his chin? Kin? Sorry English is not my main language so the scar could be there like right between your chin and the neck
So currently, only Timaeus has a proper monster card of its Dragon form… Ideas to make one for the other 2 that work similarly to it: _Hermos the United Dragon_ (LIGHT) Level 8 Dragon/Effect _You can send 1 Warrior monster, or 1 Spell/Trap that mentions "Red-Eyes", from your hand or face-up field to the GY; Special Summon this card from your hand. During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field as material, including a Warrior monster. You can only use each effect of "Hermos the United Dragon" once per turn._ ATK/2800 DEF/1800 _Critias the United Dragon_ (LIGHT) Level 8 Dragon/Effect _You can send 1 Dragon monster, or 1 Spell/Trap that mentions "Blue-Eyes", from your hand or face-up field to the GY; Special Summon this card from your hand. During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field as material, including a Dragon monster. You can only use each effect of "Critias the United Dragon" once per turn._ ATK/2800 DEF/1800
so you can't get Red-eyes Black Dragon Sword or Time Magic Hammer with Hermos' united form, and none of Critias' trap fusions with Critas' united form, whats the point then?
@ I had based these off of the existing Timaeus monster, and just swapped some monster types and archetype names around (I was at work when I made these, so I was pressed for time.)
I want so much for more support for them. Warrior monsters to help get certain traps or spells to hand, then use as fodder for legend of heart. New fusions to go into. Especially with/for Cirtias might help make traps more viable
Id like to think Hermos got struck in the palm not the finger. So there might bea scar on his palm which is hidden in his gauntlet. For Critias, maybe the scar is under his chin which you can’t see due to head positioning. (this would only explain their human forms though)
To be fair if you get stabbed in the eye that's never coming back, getting stabbed in the hand and in the jaw would at best leave a scar that can be hidden for Hermos for example, plus when they got stabbed it was when they were dragons so they're damage must have been less compared if it was done as a human.
I used to Dark Paladin (sometimes Dark Magician dragon knight) and Red Eyes black dragon sword in a red eyes/dark magician deck. literally, cause like 5 people to outright quit in a weekend at tournaments, not on purpose just because I liked those cards from the anime
4:33 the origin of their names 6:53 that explains why it has an stronger effect that helps more the TCG/OCG playstyle of the deck 8:37 still wishing for the day we get a Warrior Monster That searches "Legend of Heart", and, even better, if it can work with Dark Magician, so it can summon Dark Cavalry 9:31 waiting for the day critias and hermos also become monster cards. Critias being able to summon itself either by sending a DRAGON monster or a card that mentions "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" " from hand ot field; and Hermos by sending a Warior, Spellcaster or Dragon monster, or a Card that mentions "Red-Eyes Dark Dragon" 15:33 surprisingly, buster blader didn't appear during this arc, as this sword would be basically buster blader's weapon
I have most of these dragon knight cards, because i bought the Legendary dragon decks package containing Yugi's Waking the Dragon arc deck but mostly made with Dark Magician archetype, but combined with some of the Kaiba's cards like Crush Card Virus and Tyrant wing and even with most of the fusion monsters mentioned in this video. The only cards that i dont have of that archetype, that were mentioned in this video are, Timaeus the legendary dragon monster, Timaeus the Knight of destiny, Destruction dragon and Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon
I was so surprised when this archetype was finally printed since it's was anime only for a long time I even remember the fan made versions when I was little 😂
The missing finger would have sparked outrage in Japan. Look at Piccolo’s hand in the manga and in the anime (as the anime would be more widely seen) Long story short meat packers (seen as low class people) would have missing fingers, and mid 90s they didn’t want to have missing body parts.
I always figured the legendary knights were the primary stages of Joey, Yugi/Atem, and Seto’s souls. I also still find it funny that to weaken the knight he turned them into fire breathing dragons…love this video this is my favorite series of cards in Yugioh.
Not sure about support but I'd love to see some of the dragons used with the other characters. Like a Timaeus based red eyes or blue eyes monster (hell make it "dragons of different types" and we get a red eye blue eyes fusion into a pseudo ultimate dragon with Timaeus as the third head.) one that note, if the other two dragons do get monster forms a fusion with them would be cool too. Or maybe a critias skull dice.
would love to see them do more with Hermos and critias the idea of fusion with other monster and traps cards can make for there own fun archetype decks .
Each one needs its respective dragon. A slifer+dark magicians+timias fusion Obelisk+critius Ra + hermos Either that or they would all be hermos fusion cards.
I do hope for more support in the future, I think the Legendary dragons have the potential to become a proper archetype. Introduce cards that search out legendary dragon cards, maybe offer them some protection and power ups. More fusion combinations. Timeaus especially needs this badly.
What i remember watching the duel between Yugi and Dartz was that in the 4KIDS dub, Dartz claimed that he took care of them years ago while decades later i learn that he wasn't aware of the dragon's true form.
My headcanon is that the only reason Crush Card got errata and brought back from the ban list was cause they wanted to give its effect to Doom Virus Dragon instead, since it has the exact same effect as the original.
Yup give him a legendary dragon Critias card that can act as the fang of critias with the ability to recover and fuse with the appropriate traps for its fusions I love mirror force dragon 😊
Ya know I really wanna touch on something regarding how the dragon fusion monster cards work. Back in I think the Raphael duel analysis video it was said that the monsters don’t actually fuse they morph on the field, or at least Yugis did cause on the duel disk after DMG the dragon knight was summoned she was still DMG on the duel disk. But in Joeys duel with Valon, Valon summoned Rocket hermos cannon from joeys graveyard even though it’s established that these monster aren’t “real” or separate cards. It’s just something that came to me while watching this one.
I remember hearing a review or a interview about the reason why poison butterfly in the eye of Timaeus could not fuse and what they would’ve created if they did the reason why he really didn’t fuse was exactly like you said and the Fusion would’ve been poisonous dragon timaues It’s effect is by sending poisonous butterfly from your graveyard to the banished zone once per turn you can destroy one of your opponents field spell if the effect is negated return that monster back to the graveyard
I’d also like to point out, regarding the knights’ magic destruction effect, that there specifically needed to be three of them in that duel with Dartz. Because Dartz had added two layers to the Orichalcos in Dueteros and Tritos, there needed to be three knights to deal with each individual spell.
I have to say, it be really amazing if there were more support like what if Joey fused Hermos with Jinzo, The Legendary Fisherman, Flame Swordsman or even Baby Dragon or if Kaiba fused Critias with Cloning, Magical Trick Mirror, Negate Attack, Attack Guidance Armor, Shadow Spell or even Krystal Avatar.
love these guys, Hermos is the best i really wish that Temeus was to fuse with spells though, would have been more stand out than just being dark magician ONLY i also wish that Hermos didn't have 2 warrior fusions, sort of wish each fusion was a unique type, i get why, but still
The cards that could've been is sad. Dark Chaos Dragon Master- Dark Magician of Chaos with Timaus Cybernetic Eye- Jinzo with Hermaus Got nothing for Kaiba XD. But something cooler would if the dragons were with "other" users (A what if) Dark Warlock of the Corrupted Drake: Arkana Timaus Great Dragon of Apothis: Odion Critias Great Sun Wings: Marik Hermaus Tribute Dragon: Ishizu Critias Toon Student of Dragon- Pegasus Timaus Toon Teacher and Dragon- Pegasus Timaus Book of the World of Toons- Pegasus Hermaus. All Seeing Eye- Pegasus Hermaus Shadowy Eye Dragon: Mai Critias Theres a ton with Hermaus
Another great video. Keep it up. Going to the moment where Timeas and Poison Butterfly try to fuse. I know that you've brought it up in your duel analysis of Yugi vs. Weevil, but I'm interested in what the monster would have been if the fusion was successful.
A lil Fun Fact: Joey's Claw of Hermos fusion cards have their original anime monsters as background. U can see in Goddess Bow-Queen's Knight, Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword- Red-Eyes Black Dragon, Time Magic Hammer- Time Magician and Rocket Hermos Canon-Rocket Warrior
I made 3 decks in legacy of the duelist link evolution based on combining the battle city, waking the dragons and the final season decks for yugi, kaiba and joey, i also updated cards with retrains and modified support. They worked pretty well. Only issue i really had was melding the Red-Eyes and Flame swordsman cards into the Joey deck. Still needed some work.
I’ve always been curious about the card text “this card is also always treated as “Legendary Dragon Timaeous” I always assumed they would make separate dragon cards with those names
Honestly I hate what they did with Eyes of Timaeus cause while Critias and Hermos have a lot of potential to have more fusions centered around them (Critias works with Normal Traps and we have some of the most iconic ones to work with while Hermos could work with several monster types used by Joey, we have Machine with Jinzo and Beast-Warrior with Panther Warrior even we could include a Winged Beast with Harpie lady cause Mai had the card and Fiend with Kuriboh or Summoned Skull or Beast with Gazelle considering Yugi) While Timaeus is only Dark Magician support
Completely forgot about Big Bang Dragon Blow!!! 😅 Whoops
Don't worry. It is fine forgetting it, since we still don't have Valen's cards even created...
@@TGSAnime i felt that you missed something… but to be fair other cards haven’t shown up yet for hermos
I was about to comment this lol
Literally it’s so forgettable because it’s not real and it was like one duel
Remake video 🤣
I believe Joey was chosen as one of the legendary duelists because even while frozen in the Duel Monsters Spirit World, they saw Joey survive an attack from an Egyptian God and Hermos called dibs
Tbh I Would See Why Hermos Called Dibs Then Joey Survived An Attack From Ra And Most People Can’t Say That They Have Done That
Hermos I like this dudes spunk I’d choose him
@@levievil9220he literally went “This man had to fight a god card without one and almost won yeah I want that one”
That’s my head canon now
Ya know what, that makes sense 😂
I really want them to expand this archetype more, dark magician girl could definitely use some additional fusion forms, critias needs a way to cheat out its fusions without running the bricky traps, and hermos needs so many additional options
Could you imagine the equipment he could make if he joined Jaden’s deck, all three versions. Heroes, Neos, Evil Heros. Imagine a Gran Mole equipped item.
Sam forgot to mention that The Eye of Timeaus can act as fusion substitute for every other Dark Magician/Girl fusion: Dark Calvery, The Dark Magicians, Dark Flare Knight, Master of Chaos, Dark Paladin, Dark Magician the Magical Dragon Knight, Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon
edit: Sam forgot to mention the anime exclusive Big Bang Dragon Blow which Joey made fusing Valon's Big Bang Blow with The Claw of Hermos
Wait, I could use Timaeus to bring out Dark Flare Knight? Ooh.
Yes. But why would you want to? That card sucks.
@WhiteRaven696 any fusion that lists a DM monster as material can be summoned.
BIG BANG BLOWW!!
Man, I wish Valon's Psychic Armor deck made it to the physical card form one day.
Cavalry
The fun thing about Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon is that it's now kind of an important monster in a modern Blue-Eyes deck. You banish a "Wishes for Eyes of Blue" spell in your graveyard to equip your normal Blue-Eyes with either Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or the original Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, then you can immediately special summon Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon by sacrificing the equipped Blue-Eyes. If you used Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon for this, that guarantees you a single target protection. But if you use the original Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, that can set you up to fusion summon Dragon Master Magia. Not only that, but since Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon is unaffected by Trap effects, it is the perfect monster to have on the field while you have the True Light trap out, since it won't go to the graveyard when True Light is destroyed, and you can also bring back True Light after Tyrant attacks. The new Blue-Eyes support is an absolute godsend because of how much it actually fixes most of the problems in the archetype and gives what was once an irrelevant monster a real chance to shine.
I currently run Blue eyes on Master duel. Tyrant is my most common fusion summons and saves my behind more often than not. I am looking forward to the support as it will make my deck significantly more streamlined and consistent.
You can also cheap tyrant with one blue-eyes and one dragon effect.
I didn’t realize there was new blue-eyes support after true light and Magia so that’s awesome to learn 😏
I run a 40 card blue-eyes that can reliably turn one a Chaos Max and play through most interactions.
I’m thinking about putting together the FTK Blue-Eyes deck I once had irl since I can also usually get two blue-eyes and an alt out. Three of the same name for a 9k direct hit to the life points is insanity, but I’ve done it before.
If only Dragon Master Magia was easier to get
From time to time, Konami prints cards based on monsters that are technically in the anime but were actually never summoned.
That's how we got cards like Cosmic Blazar Dragon (Yusei's Delta Accel Synchro monster from an erased timeline) and Clorless, Chaos King of Dark World (was going to be summoned via Super Poly but the Super Poly card was created improperly, causing the summon to fail).
Who knows, maybe the insect Timaeus fusion might become a thing someday. Maybe the fusion monster itself will require you to discard Eye of Timaeus as part of its summoning requirement in order to bypass the card's ties to the Dark Magician archetype.
I've been saying this exact thing for the longest time. Konami can do it if they really wanted.
You skipped when Joey fused hermos with the Big Bang Blow he took from the graveyard using gravekeeper to create big bang dragon blow.
Graverobber, not Gravekeeper.
@@shadic4566 damn autocorrect. lol
The eye of Timaeus can transform a monster card into a dragon rider.
The fang of critias can transform a trap card into a trap dragon.
The claw of hermos can transform a monster card into a mystical weapon.
I liked how Atem was there with Joey when Hermos was released from its prison since they’re both best friends and it’s just one of my favourite moments from the Waking the Dragons’ Arc. Also if Yugi had managed to fuse Timaeus with the Poison Butterfly, hypothetically, I think its name would be Poison Dragon Timaeus. Please do the Libromancers next
What would its effect be, I'm guessing burn damage
@@RodimusMinor1987 Probably or maybe something to do with Insects like reviving an Insect monster when the monster is destroyed or something
@rainbowdragon168
So basically, say it destroys an insect. You can revive that monster to your side of the field
Nah, 'Poison butterfly the dragon knight'.
@@RodimusMinor1987 No what I meant was that if the Poison Dragon Timaeus is destroyed then you can revive an Insect monster
I love Critias most of the three dragons, though all of them are really cool. But there was just something so cool about fusion a dragon with a trap card to make a monster version of that trap. Helped that the first one I saw was Mirror Force Dragon, which child me thought was just the most awesome thing ever.
Best filler. Best Cards. Best story. Obviously I am Greek but still. This was the greatest thing on Yu-Gi-Oh. My favourite storyline. Hope all of these cards were op irl like in the anime.
Omg in the hermos cards there’s a silhouette of each card used in the anime for that fusion in the background of the card art. That’s awesome
I need Hermos to get more fusions. I know it's the weakest of the 3 dragons, but he needs more love, especially if they use some more of the monsters he used (Jinzo, Insect Queen, Legendary Fisherman, etc.)
I will now tell all my friends that Waking the Dragons is the canon ending for Plato's book, thank you, mister Anime.
Fusing with trap cards is such a cool idea that critias only scratches the surface of
Of?
Imagine a fusion with widespread ruin
Spreadruin Dragon... effect to destroy the monster with the highest attack points during the battle phase.
@@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok That's actually not that good
@@sabinor2560 fusing with trap cards
Imagine it able to fuse with cards like Skill Drain or Gozen Match. It'd be a bloody floodgate on legs and rules to deal with.
8:20 “No! The two monsters that don't fuse with each other didn't fuse! My bulls*** main character powers have failed me!”
Joey must be really struggling! Cuts to Joey. Joey: this is the easiest duel in my life! I love bulls*** main character powers!
Ive always loved the waking the dragons arc and I loved the legendary dragons. They should make more fusions for them. Sure a lot of People won't use them but it would be a fun gimmick to see some more critias and Hermos fusions.
I love the fusions. The idea of fusing Spells with Traps to make new monsters. I love Kaiba's Fusion Monsters. And I normally use Eye of Timaeus and his Fusion Monsters in my Dark Magician Decks.
Critias/Shadow Spell fusion is just begging to be made. Dark Magician of Chaos and Timaeus also needs a fusion (Japan should just have Dark Magician of Chaos be treated as a "Dark Magician" monster).
No waifus konomi isn’t interested
Absolutely agree mate 💯.
We really need Justice for Hermos. Dude may have not made the best Monsters but damn right he made the most Iconic Equip Cards.
Right?!? Like I run hermos in any deck that plays dragons and even in the side deck if I’m playing someone else that uses dragons because that attack boost is GNARLY
This was a great video Sam, I loved learning more about the legendary dragons. I really hope at some point Konami makes the Posion Moth fusion for more support
I hope so too!
I never understood the dislike the waking of the dragons arc gets. The Kaiba + Yugi v Dartz dual is hands down one of the most epic anime duals from Dual Monsters and all the dragon fusions are just so damn cool. Also Joey and Valon armor anyone???
the only thing I dislike about that Arc is what they did to Mai...besides that I realy like it (and as a kid I always wanted these legendary Dragon cards and fusions in real life, so I'm happy that they exist in the TCG now^^)
I honestly never notice they had the sword stuck in different parts of their bodies i always thought that they it in their chest
me too
*pushes glasses up. Erm, well actually, Plato's dialogues were written by Plato. The character 'Socrates' in the dialogues sometimes functions as the mouthpiece for Plato's views, and in other dialogues the character seems to represent Plato's teacher, the actual person "Socrates."
And the Dialogues were written about 2400 years ago in our timeline - long after the 5000 years ago where the ancient Egyptians used dark magic and long, long after the 10 000 years ago Dartz's Atlantis was around . . . 7600 years of Power Creep explains a lot
This is my favorite archetype. Thabk you so much for covering it
One thing I feel like this archetype needs is a way to use the dragon’s power without having the named card in your hand (or on the field in Timeaus’s case). My idea for these cards is to use Chris, Sky, and Chris’s Grandfather (forgot his name, check to see if someone else already answered before commenting). Sky can special summon itself by revealing Timeaus and then becomes Dark Magician (or Dark Magician Girl if needed); Chris can be treated as any type of monster you want for Hermos or any trap card for Critias; and Chris’s Grandfather can substitute for any of the dragons and if used for Legend of Heart’s cost will increase your LP by 1000 and let you draw a card.
Another thing the archetype needs is a way to bring out a single knight without wasting Legend of Heart, either temporarily or like using the proper spell. My idea for these later is a reference to when the dragons are first awakened and it’s called “Breaking of the Orichalcos Curse” and while it still needs to banish a legendary dragon, it doesn’t need the LP or a tribute; BUT it can only banish 1 legendary dragon and it has a hard once per turn. The former option would either be a quick-play spell or a trap, don’t have any ideas beyond that.
I’ve thought about this a lot, a character in a story I’m tinkering with involving putting the Waking of Dragons in the manga-verse uses a deck around all three dragons.
Worth noting that Eye Of Timeaus works for ANY Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl fusion making it essentially a substitute for some other more complex summons like Dark Flare Knight and Dark Paladin. It’s really useful if you are going for a Dark Magician themed deck.
You forgot to mention that Hermos had a fusion with one of Valon's armor cards, Big Bang Blow, to make Big Bang Dragon Blow.
I love these cards. I run the entire Critias set in my lair of darkness deck and half of the Hermos set in my red-eyes flame swordsman deck. No one expects a legendary dragon fusion to show up these days.
Favorite archetype from one of my favorite filler arc in Yugioh DM
Fun fact in the hermos fusion cards you can see the shadow/outline of the cards used in the fusion summon.
Time Wizard, Red Eyes, Rocket Warrior and Queens Knight
And copy the statlines of the original material.
Hermos was stabbed in the claw so his wound would be the center of his palm and covered by the armor
Cirtias was stabbed beneath his jaw so it would be visible unless he looked straight upward
A fireking archetype video will be nice
he already did that
@@roninwarriorsfanwhere? I can’t find the video. You confusing Golden Nova?
“Now my two knights are reflecting their attack back and forth until its strength increases to infinity “
😃😃😃😃
That was such a BS move.
@@toumabyakuya the effect is literally to make their attack equal to the strongest monster the opponent controls.
@@GAMEFAN27 Nope, pay close attention to the video next time. He explains that the Infinite Atk was reached by absorbing effects and attacking each other.
I like to think that the knights true look are unknown or that the dragons choose the human form of their choice and choose to look like the hero they chose
In the Japanese version, darts didn’t know they had human forms. And Pegasus found out they could be released from their dragon forms hence the card he made
Great theory.
At fusing with Poision Butterfly. "No the monsters that aren't suppose to fuse together didn't fuse together.
here's an idea for the other 2 united dragon that we haven't gotten yet:
Critias the United Dragon
Level 8, Light, Dragon, 2800 Atk/1000 Def
effect: if you have at least 1 "Eyes of Blue", "white stone", "Maiden of White", "Azure-Eyes" or "Blue-Eyes" monster on your field, you can special summon this cad from your hand. During your Main Phase, you can reveal one Dragon fusion monster in your Extra Deck that mentions a trap card, send that mentioned trap card & this monster from your hand and/or field to the GY (if the mentioned trap card is facedown, reveal it) special summon that monster from your Extra Deck (this is treated as a fusion summon)
Hermos the United Dragon
level 8, Light, Dragon, Atk 2800/ Def: 1000
effect: if you control a Light Warrior, Light Spellcaster or Dark Dragon, you can special summon this card from your hand. During your main phase, you can reveal one Fusion Monster in you Extra Deck with the same Atk, Def & Attribute as another monster on your field, send this card, and that monster to the gy, special summon that fusion monster from your Extra Deck (this is treated as a Fusion summon)
The redeeming thing about originials Yugioh filler is how it plays with the mechanics of the game.
>redeeming
are you implying the 4th season sucked?
I think it is also worth mentioning that The Eye of Timaeus can fusion summon ANY fusion monster listing a "Dark Magician" monster as material, so you could use it to summon Dark Paladin, Dark Flare Knight, and even Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon (if you really wanted to, Red-Eyes Fusion is more optimal) with only a single Dark Magician as material for each.
Exactly, the others not listed here being Dark Cavalry, Dark Magician the Knight of Dragon Magic, The Dark Magicians as well as Master of Chaos, the issue with the spell itself, is that it is not very easily searchable.
Critias archetype was the best until timaeus had his dragon form turned into a monster
Yeah that was a big mistake. Fucking konami mate. Destroys the authenticity and nostalgia.
Here’s hoping they get monster card ver too
And Hermos too.
Great video! Always loved those knights.
It made me think of a concept of video for you : what if Yugi didn't lose his gods in the Waking the dragon arc ? Do you think Timaeus woud have merged with of the gods or ex ?
9:42 I feel like we got a little peak behind the curtain ;P
In terms of the scars for hermos and critias I would want to add something. Technically the scars could be there we just don't see them. For example hermos has his scar on his hand meaning there could be a hole in his hand hidden by his glow. So even if a finger is missing you don't see it since glows still have 5 fingers. For critias you don't see the lower part of his chin? Kin? Sorry English is not my main language so the scar could be there like right between your chin and the neck
So currently, only Timaeus has a proper monster card of its Dragon form…
Ideas to make one for the other 2 that work similarly to it:
_Hermos the United Dragon_ (LIGHT)
Level 8
Dragon/Effect
_You can send 1 Warrior monster, or 1 Spell/Trap that mentions "Red-Eyes", from your hand or face-up field to the GY; Special Summon this card from your hand. During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field as material, including a Warrior monster. You can only use each effect of "Hermos the United Dragon" once per turn._
ATK/2800 DEF/1800
_Critias the United Dragon_ (LIGHT)
Level 8
Dragon/Effect
_You can send 1 Dragon monster, or 1 Spell/Trap that mentions "Blue-Eyes", from your hand or face-up field to the GY; Special Summon this card from your hand. During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or field as material, including a Dragon monster. You can only use each effect of "Critias the United Dragon" once per turn._
ATK/2800 DEF/1800
so you can't get Red-eyes Black Dragon Sword or Time Magic Hammer with Hermos' united form, and none of Critias' trap fusions with Critas' united form, whats the point then?
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I had based these off of the existing Timaeus monster, and just swapped some monster types and archetype names around (I was at work when I made these, so I was pressed for time.)
I want so much for more support for them. Warrior monsters to help get certain traps or spells to hand, then use as fodder for legend of heart. New fusions to go into. Especially with/for Cirtias might help make traps more viable
The third book for Hermos wasn't published, represented by how Hermos was stabbed in the claw
I really hope this archetype be made into a playable one in real life their unique abilities are phenomenal and my favorite from Yu-Gi-Oh DM
I like to see Valon's armor cards become playable cards along with Big Bang Dragon Blow.
But will they feel the same if you can't tape them to your arm and deck your opponent and his cards?
The idea in show to fuse those cards with any other cards was insane and still could have potential.
Id like to think Hermos got struck in the palm not the finger. So there might bea scar on his palm which is hidden in his gauntlet. For Critias, maybe the scar is under his chin which you can’t see due to head positioning. (this would only explain their human forms though)
Don't forget Big Bang Dragon Blow; if I recall correctly he used it to finish the duel against Valon.
To be fair if you get stabbed in the eye that's never coming back, getting stabbed in the hand and in the jaw would at best leave a scar that can be hidden for Hermos for example, plus when they got stabbed it was when they were dragons so they're damage must have been less compared if it was done as a human.
YU-GI-OH! IS AMAZING.🔥.
Was. Fixed it for ya.
💯
I used to Dark Paladin (sometimes Dark Magician dragon knight) and Red Eyes black dragon sword in a red eyes/dark magician deck. literally, cause like 5 people to outright quit in a weekend at tournaments, not on purpose just because I liked those cards from the anime
And a little trivia, The Fang of Critias is the only dragon card to have the same artwork as it does in the anime.
4:33 the origin of their names
6:53 that explains why it has an stronger effect that helps more the TCG/OCG playstyle of the deck
8:37 still wishing for the day we get a Warrior Monster That searches "Legend of Heart", and, even better, if it can work with Dark Magician, so it can summon Dark Cavalry
9:31 waiting for the day critias and hermos also become monster cards.
Critias being able to summon itself either by sending a DRAGON monster or a card that mentions "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" " from hand ot field; and Hermos by sending a Warior, Spellcaster or Dragon monster, or a Card that mentions "Red-Eyes Dark Dragon"
15:33 surprisingly, buster blader didn't appear during this arc, as this sword would be basically buster blader's weapon
I have most of these dragon knight cards, because i bought the Legendary dragon decks package containing Yugi's Waking the Dragon arc deck but mostly made with Dark Magician archetype, but combined with some of the Kaiba's cards like Crush Card Virus and Tyrant wing and even with most of the fusion monsters mentioned in this video. The only cards that i dont have of that archetype, that were mentioned in this video are, Timaeus the legendary dragon monster, Timaeus the Knight of destiny, Destruction dragon and Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon
I was so surprised when this archetype was finally printed since it's was anime only for a long time I even remember the fan made versions when I was little 😂
The missing finger would have sparked outrage in Japan.
Look at Piccolo’s hand in the manga and in the anime (as the anime would be more widely seen)
Long story short meat packers (seen as low class people) would have missing fingers, and mid 90s they didn’t want to have missing body parts.
I always figured the legendary knights were the primary stages of Joey, Yugi/Atem, and Seto’s souls. I also still find it funny that to weaken the knight he turned them into fire breathing dragons…love this video this is my favorite series of cards in Yugioh.
Not sure about support but I'd love to see some of the dragons used with the other characters. Like a Timaeus based red eyes or blue eyes monster (hell make it "dragons of different types" and we get a red eye blue eyes fusion into a pseudo ultimate dragon with Timaeus as the third head.) one that note, if the other two dragons do get monster forms a fusion with them would be cool too. Or maybe a critias skull dice.
Looks like we'll be getting an Analysis on Kaiba and Alister duels coming up next. Their duel was awesome
I like how it can fuse with any spellcaster to make that hammer. Yeah... no one is running Time Magician.
Turning the guy i'm about to fistfight into a massive dragon to somehow weaken him
would love to see them do more with Hermos and critias the idea of fusion with other monster and traps cards can make for there own fun archetype decks .
Imagine if you fused the legendary dragons with god cards
There IS no god cards the only god is allah
Each one needs its respective dragon.
A slifer+dark magicians+timias fusion
Obelisk+critius
Ra + hermos
Either that or they would all be hermos fusion cards.
Probably either Hermos EGC Equip Fusions.
OR a Dragonic Fusion version of each 3 EGC
Critias is for traps.
Oh that would be spicy.
Wow this is kinda crazy, my friend literally challenged me to make a deck out of these cards. Love the fun facts.
I have been working on a Timaeus deck, might have it using quick-play spells.
I have a special bond with this card set.
Finally, my favorite Yu-Gi-Oh card, and half of my online identity
You have good taste.
@danieltodorov7753 I've not heard that since the last time someone complimented my music taste
7:28 it's even more powerful when you pair it with piercing the Darkness
I do hope for more support in the future, I think the Legendary dragons have the potential to become a proper archetype. Introduce cards that search out legendary dragon cards, maybe offer them some protection and power ups. More fusion combinations. Timeaus especially needs this badly.
What i remember watching the duel between Yugi and Dartz was that in the 4KIDS dub, Dartz claimed that he took care of them years ago while decades later i learn that he wasn't aware of the dragon's true form.
My headcanon is that the only reason Crush Card got errata and brought back from the ban list was cause they wanted to give its effect to Doom Virus Dragon instead, since it has the exact same effect as the original.
Critias has the best fusions, really hope they give them some updates.
Yup give him a legendary dragon Critias card that can act as the fang of critias with the ability to recover and fuse with the appropriate traps for its fusions I love mirror force dragon 😊
I think I speak for all of us when I say I wanna see what the possible "Poison Butterfly Dragon" looks like
Ya know I really wanna touch on something regarding how the dragon fusion monster cards work.
Back in I think the Raphael duel analysis video it was said that the monsters don’t actually fuse they morph on the field, or at least Yugis did cause on the duel disk after DMG the dragon knight was summoned she was still DMG on the duel disk. But in Joeys duel with Valon, Valon summoned Rocket hermos cannon from joeys graveyard even though it’s established that these monster aren’t “real” or separate cards. It’s just something that came to me while watching this one.
I remember hearing a review or a interview about the reason why poison butterfly in the eye of Timaeus could not fuse and what they would’ve created if they did the reason why he really didn’t fuse was exactly like you said and the Fusion would’ve been poisonous dragon timaues It’s effect is by sending poisonous butterfly from your graveyard to the banished zone once per turn you can destroy one of your opponents field spell if the effect is negated return that monster back to the graveyard
Konami should errata or just declare the eye of timaeus searchable. Dark magician isnt even competitive, it would make it much better
I’d also like to point out, regarding the knights’ magic destruction effect, that there specifically needed to be three of them in that duel with Dartz. Because Dartz had added two layers to the Orichalcos in Dueteros and Tritos, there needed to be three knights to deal with each individual spell.
You forgot to mention Big Bang Dragon Blow.
This is one of my favourite archetypes. I'm always hoping for more support
Agreed, it's so fun.
I have to say, it be really amazing if there were more support like what if Joey fused Hermos with Jinzo, The Legendary Fisherman, Flame Swordsman or even Baby Dragon or if Kaiba fused Critias with Cloning, Magical Trick Mirror, Negate Attack, Attack Guidance Armor, Shadow Spell or even Krystal Avatar.
Your hair and beard have been looking great - keep it up man
0:30 they turned someone into a dragon… to weaken them????
A dragon cannot hold a blade
@ says who
@@LightningIgnishave you tried to hold a blade without thumbs?
@@Ked7 No But you could do it with your mouth
I thought the same thing lol 😆 I mean, transform them into ojamas man!
love these guys, Hermos is the best
i really wish that Temeus was to fuse with spells though, would have been more stand out than just being dark magician ONLY
i also wish that Hermos didn't have 2 warrior fusions, sort of wish each fusion was a unique type, i get why, but still
The cards that could've been is sad.
Dark Chaos Dragon Master- Dark Magician of Chaos with Timaus
Cybernetic Eye- Jinzo with Hermaus
Got nothing for Kaiba XD.
But something cooler would if the dragons were with "other" users (A what if)
Dark Warlock of the Corrupted Drake: Arkana Timaus
Great Dragon of Apothis: Odion Critias
Great Sun Wings: Marik Hermaus
Tribute Dragon: Ishizu Critias
Toon Student of Dragon- Pegasus Timaus
Toon Teacher and Dragon- Pegasus Timaus
Book of the World of Toons- Pegasus Hermaus.
All Seeing Eye- Pegasus Hermaus
Shadowy Eye Dragon: Mai Critias
Theres a ton with Hermaus
Also dont forget to finish the season 4 arc *what ifs* vids. I look forward to all remaining.
Another great video. Keep it up. Going to the moment where Timeas and Poison Butterfly try to fuse. I know that you've brought it up in your duel analysis of Yugi vs. Weevil, but I'm interested in what the monster would have been if the fusion was successful.
Bro said I'm going to turn these humans into dragons to weaken them. Good logic. Lol.
A lil Fun Fact: Joey's Claw of Hermos fusion cards have their original anime monsters as background. U can see in Goddess Bow-Queen's Knight, Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword- Red-Eyes Black Dragon, Time Magic Hammer- Time Magician and Rocket Hermos Canon-Rocket Warrior
God I love that voice actor for jounichi in the japanese. makes me smile every time
This archetype needs support
9:42 kinda find it funny to see him just read off the script instead of seeing the cards/ clips, don't know why though
I made 3 decks in legacy of the duelist link evolution based on combining the battle city, waking the dragons and the final season decks for yugi, kaiba and joey, i also updated cards with retrains and modified support. They worked pretty well. Only issue i really had was melding the Red-Eyes and Flame swordsman cards into the Joey deck. Still needed some work.
It would be nice to see more fusions like timeas and insect fusion
Critias has dentures, you just dont notice them lol
Id love to see this card line comeback but as a rebooted archtype. It would probably be best to not be playing the old cards.
I’ve always been curious about the card text “this card is also always treated as “Legendary Dragon Timaeous” I always assumed they would make separate dragon cards with those names
Honestly I hate what they did with Eyes of Timaeus cause while Critias and Hermos have a lot of potential to have more fusions centered around them (Critias works with Normal Traps and we have some of the most iconic ones to work with while Hermos could work with several monster types used by Joey, we have Machine with Jinzo and Beast-Warrior with Panther Warrior even we could include a Winged Beast with Harpie lady cause Mai had the card and Fiend with Kuriboh or Summoned Skull or Beast with Gazelle considering Yugi) While Timaeus is only Dark Magician support
i belive the reason why timaeus has scars was cause he was the one that tanked a attack from the great leviathen
those knights do look like joey yugi and kaiber
Literally just cracked a Timaeus the Knight of Destiny in the MD Duelist Cup reward packs, so this is perfect timing lmaooo