You can do it! just take it slow, no rush it when building a battery pack. If I can give you a advice see if you can discharge the cells to 3.5 or under.
Awesome tutorial man. I am in electronics myself, but was looking into tutorial to figure out how to connect BMS and organize batteries in the optimal way. The battery I'm building is 48V/17A so using just slightly larger Hailong case that can hold 65 cells i.e. 13S5P. I've chosen the same Panasonic cells as you did. They are probably the best performance per dollar 18650 one can buy - I found mine (genuine) for under 2.5$ per cell. And max discharge current is not 5A, but actually 2C i.e. 6.8A. With 5P that's 34A in total, enough in my case even for 1000W motor (mine is 750W and limited to 25A by the controller. I also picked up couple of neat tricks like using the Kapton tape or using a ticker wire for connecting battery terminals, BMS and output terminals (which I totally forgot to take into account, until you mentioned it and then I ended up using 4mm2 wire, i.e. a bit ticker than AWG 12).
ive got loads of batteries can i add them to my battery pack to get more range or will it not work how about if i want more speed and i add more voltage????
Thanks for watching! This BMS is without temp sensor or thermal fuse as far as I know (but I might ask the seller). What I know it does have Overcharge, over discharge, over current and short circuit protection as well balanced function. I would say having thermal sensor would be nice but I was not able to find a BMS with ON/OFF switch with thermal sensor.
Hi great video. Im a little confused though. You said the battery cage has a built in controller, is that correct? Also, I have a bafang mid drive motor with a built in controller, does that mean I would have no use for this controller in the battery cage? Thanks for the video.
Would that be possible to put the battery in some heat shrink plastic, then put in the plastic cover. Or is it overkill ? Also a battery 52V 17.5A battery costs around 600-650$. How much did that build end up costing you ?
Thanks for watching. I would say you will probably save more then $150. Also you know what you build, what components you have used, buying a already packaged battery pack usually they don't have the best BMS or cells, using lower capacity and the battery pack will weigh more because it will use more cells.
nicee its diffecult for my because i never do technology electronic if i want to make a battery pack can i use a solder to solder the batteries togheter
You can use solder to solder the batteries but I would not recommend doing this. It can be very dangerous and you might damage the cells. This is the only reason why I purchased a portable spot welder. You can check the review video out.
I am looking to build a pack with 13s 3200Mah and 7p to give me a little over 22Ah's on my 48v bike. I have found everything I need to make it now other than the BMS. It gives me options such as 30a or 60a and to be honest I am not 100% in what one is better I know I want the 13s also what is the difference between Common port and Separate port, I assumed it is less common has less wires from the cells to the BMS and Separate has more ? hope you can help or point me in the right direction on this. Thanks for the videos btw I opted for the spot welder you used also :D
Hello my friend, I would like to build the same constellation. I already have a Hailong1 battery with 13 Ah but it is already very weak after 2 years because cheap cells are installed. Therefore I want to build the same constellation with Panasonic NCR18650B cells. My controller is in the battery holder and is from Kunteng KT36ZWSRT-EP01 and I think 15A+1A max output. Would this battery constellation of 17Ah work with the controller?
If you are building a 10S pack you need a 42V charger. Just search for 10s chargers and you will find it easy. Just make it has a cut off option when it charges the battery pack to stop charging. The BMS is there to stop the charging but you want to have 2 layers of protection.
Is the battery "live" when you solder black and red to discharge connections? Is there an order in which to solder, black first red second? I need to replace mine.
You can’t turn off a battery, unless the bms has an on/off switch. However this is not a problem until you short wires together. Then it goes boom... Solder them in the order that best fits for you. Be sure to use plenty of solder and a large tip, otherwise you’ll burn out the connector. Always insulate when working, especially if you are not confident with what you are doing. Good luck with it!
Did you try looking on Ali? I am sure you can find something there. Just make sure you get the BSM with the correct amperage max capacity. I say go 10A more then needed.
On the max ( 3th setting ) the nickel plates I used are of 0.125 thickness and the welders max rated is 0.125. I think there is a way to modify it so you can weld ticker strips. I need find out more and do some tests.
Depends of how I am driving it. I am a 103kg person and I think I am getting almost 150km with moderate riding with pedal assist, but if I go full throttle each time it will probably be like around 30-40KM
As my controller was 36V as well as the hub. I personally don't need anything stronger. You can check the video of the ebike build using this battery pack.
Thank you Ed! I tried to make a battery pack following your tutorial but mine is not as good as yours. I don't know why, but I can only charge it up to 39,2V, then it stops charging. I am not sure but I probably used a wrong BMS (i installed a 30A one). What do you thing about it? Should I replace BMS with a 20A one? Thank you again.
i guess Im asking randomly but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb forgot my login password. I would love any help you can offer me
@Trent Crosby Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and I'm trying it out now. Takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
With a standard DC 42V 2A adapter. There is a charging port on the battery from the front right side. You can charge it with bigger amperage the BMS can charge safely with 5A but I am in no rush and slower charging speed longer lasting battery pack.
@@thediyed hey, hello there. I bought the same welder a good while ago but it's supposed to arrive from 9-8 to 30-8. AliExpress teaches you patience, doesn't it? T_T I hope it works because the nickel strips I bought are from nkon and cost me 10€ for just a 6s6p pack Edit: forget anything I said. I just got back home and turns out it arrived
@@chelarestelar Happy to hear it arrived. I know the pain of waiting for parts. I actually had a bike part arriving after 6months due to COVID. Just make sure to leave and charge it for good amount of time and you you can also use it while connected to the charger, not sure if will make a difference tho.
Im new so want to be sure if i wanted 48v 17ah I would need 65 cells for a 13s5p configuration? that would be 65 cells i need? do i need to change the bms to 48v 20A like this one? www.aliexpress.com/item/33000839343.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.32.6b557abeW49ASK
Hi, you will need 52 cells 13s3p and you will have a 17+Ah with cells that are with 3400+ Ah capacity. For the BMS I would stick with 20A one if your hub is rated for 500W or lower, if its more then go for bigger Amperage BMS. Have in mind this does not have on/off function but it does have a temp sensor. For on off you will need to use a latching button that will be rated for what your BMS is rated.
Excellent video, provides encouragement for me to build my own battery! Keep up the great work!
You can do it! just take it slow, no rush it when building a battery pack. If I can give you a advice see if you can discharge the cells to 3.5 or under.
Awesome video man, thanks for sharing.. For anyone confused, I think 42 volts not watts when he measured with multimeter
Good job.
Nice and very clear video,presented in a easy to follow and not to quick way,keep them coming!
Glad you liked it! I hope I can have you as a subscriber.
Awesome tutorial man. I am in electronics myself, but was looking into tutorial to figure out how to connect BMS and organize batteries in the optimal way. The battery I'm building is 48V/17A so using just slightly larger Hailong case that can hold 65 cells i.e. 13S5P. I've chosen the same Panasonic cells as you did. They are probably the best performance per dollar 18650 one can buy - I found mine (genuine) for under 2.5$ per cell. And max discharge current is not 5A, but actually 2C i.e. 6.8A. With 5P that's 34A in total, enough in my case even for 1000W motor (mine is 750W and limited to 25A by the controller.
I also picked up couple of neat tricks like using the Kapton tape or using a ticker wire for connecting battery terminals, BMS and output terminals (which I totally forgot to take into account, until you mentioned it and then I ended up using 4mm2 wire, i.e. a bit ticker than AWG 12).
@pera kojot, which AliExpress store do you buy yours from? I notice battery linked in post sex in max 10 packs
Awesome battery build.
Thanks!
you are the one who make detailed video. i sub
nice video! do you have lay out for 91cells? planning to build a 48v with the 91pcs of batter with bigger case
very nice video
Thanks
Well done.
Thanks!
How do you like the Panasonic NCR18650GA?
Great and well presented detailed video!
Can i have a recommendation for a 36v charger for the complete battery?
Awesome battery pack Dude! 😍 i really love it.
Thanks! 😁
ive got loads of batteries can i add them to my battery pack to get more range or will it not work how about if i want more speed and i add more voltage????
Hello thanks for the video
are there temperature sensors or thermal fuses for security please?
Thanks for watching!
This BMS is without temp sensor or thermal fuse as far as I know (but I might ask the seller). What I know it does have Overcharge, over discharge, over current and short circuit protection as well balanced function.
I would say having thermal sensor would be nice but I was not able to find a BMS with ON/OFF switch with thermal sensor.
@@thediyed ok thank you for the details
The charger port. Could you tell me please what is the right wiring? Do the negative wire goes on port 2? (there are 3 possibilities?)
Hi great video. Im a little confused though. You said the battery cage has a built in controller, is that correct?
Also, I have a bafang mid drive motor with a built in controller, does that mean I would have no use for this controller in the battery cage?
Thanks for the video.
Can you make a video of making 72volt battery using those cause
Would that be possible to put the battery in some heat shrink plastic, then put in the plastic cover. Or is it overkill ? Also a battery 52V 17.5A battery costs around 600-650$. How much did that build end up costing you ?
Thanks for your video. How much money do you save by building your own battery?
Is it worth doing?
Thanks for watching. I would say you will probably save more then $150. Also you know what you build, what components you have used, buying a already packaged battery pack usually they don't have the best BMS or cells, using lower capacity and the battery pack will weigh more because it will use more cells.
Hi,
Nice video. Are you using a 10amp fuse for protection?
nicee its diffecult for my because i never do technology electronic if i want to make a battery pack can i use a solder to solder the batteries togheter
You can use solder to solder the batteries but I would not recommend doing this.
It can be very dangerous and you might damage the cells. This is the only reason why I purchased a portable spot welder. You can check the review video out.
How much does something like this cost versus a ready built battery pack?
I am looking to build a pack with 13s 3200Mah and 7p to give me a little over 22Ah's on my 48v bike. I have found everything I need to make it now other than the BMS. It gives me options such as 30a or 60a and to be honest I am not 100% in what one is better I know I want the 13s also what is the difference between Common port and Separate port, I assumed it is less common has less wires from the cells to the BMS and Separate has more ? hope you can help or point me in the right direction on this. Thanks for the videos btw I opted for the spot welder you used also :D
Hello my friend,
I would like to build the same constellation. I already have a Hailong1 battery with 13 Ah but it is already very weak after 2 years because cheap cells are installed. Therefore I want to build the same constellation with Panasonic NCR18650B cells.
My controller is in the battery holder and is from Kunteng KT36ZWSRT-EP01 and I think 15A+1A max output. Would this battery constellation of 17Ah work with the controller?
Peel and stick? We call it self-adhesive in England.
good video.but how to choose right charger for dis?
If you are building a 10S pack you need a 42V charger. Just search for 10s chargers and you will find it easy. Just make it has a cut off option when it charges the battery pack to stop charging. The BMS is there to stop the charging but you want to have 2 layers of protection.
Where can I buy the spot welder?
The link is in the description but I can past it here bit.ly/2xNfqTa
Thanks for watching, I hope I can have you as a subscriber.
Is the battery "live" when you solder black and red to discharge connections?
Is there an order in which to solder, black first red second?
I need to replace mine.
You can’t turn off a battery, unless the bms has an on/off switch. However this is not a problem until you short wires together. Then it goes boom... Solder them in the order that best fits for you. Be sure to use plenty of solder and a large tip, otherwise you’ll burn out the connector. Always insulate when working, especially if you are not confident with what you are doing.
Good luck with it!
Where can I get a bms for my 52v.17.5 ah. Upp brand ??? (Triangle battery!)..
Did you try looking on Ali? I am sure you can find something there. Just make sure you get the BSM with the correct amperage max capacity. I say go 10A more then needed.
What setting did you have the welder on? And thickness of the nickel
On the max ( 3th setting ) the nickel plates I used are of 0.125 thickness and the welders max rated is 0.125. I think there is a way to modify it so you can weld ticker strips. I need find out more and do some tests.
Is the nickel strip thick enough
Yep the pack is still holding up.
Can you put the link to 10s5p connection diagram for nickel welds
How can I find the same controller? I was not aware that was an option.
When I was building my first ebike I didn't know that this was possible. I have the links to most of the things as the controller in the description.
How many kilometers we will travel on this battery?🤔
Depends of how I am driving it. I am a 103kg person and I think I am getting almost 150km with moderate riding with pedal assist, but if I go full throttle each time it will probably be like around 30-40KM
Why did you choose 10s battery instead of 13s?
As my controller was 36V as well as the hub. I personally don't need anything stronger. You can check the video of the ebike build using this battery pack.
42 watts??
I probably meant to say 42v
Thank you Ed! I tried to make a battery pack following your tutorial but mine is not as good as yours. I don't know why, but I can only charge it up to 39,2V, then it stops charging. I am not sure but I probably used a wrong BMS (i installed a 30A one). What do you thing about it? Should I replace BMS with a 20A one? Thank you again.
i guess Im asking randomly but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot my login password. I would love any help you can offer me
@Conrad Otis instablaster :)
@Trent Crosby Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and I'm trying it out now.
Takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Trent Crosby It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my account :D
@Conrad Otis no problem xD
How do you charge this battery?
With a standard DC 42V 2A adapter. There is a charging port on the battery from the front right side.
You can charge it with bigger amperage the BMS can charge safely with 5A but I am in no rush and slower charging speed longer lasting battery pack.
@@thediyed thanks for the reply. I am a complete noob and your post on reddit made me interested in ebikes.
I was the same, I am still learning. There is nothing better then learning something completely new. Have fun in your learning processes.
Do anyone out there know where I can get some laptop batteries
I will not recommend using old 18560 cells, better spend few more $ and be safe. Also if the cells must must be with the same specs.
What bike frame did you use for this build?
This will be the next video, waiting on some bike parts to start assembling it. I am using a "ebike aluminum frame" I have purchased for $50.
Guess we're all here from Reddit :p
A good chunk probably
@@thediyed hey, hello there. I bought the same welder a good while ago but it's supposed to arrive from 9-8 to 30-8. AliExpress teaches you patience, doesn't it? T_T
I hope it works because the nickel strips I bought are from nkon and cost me 10€ for just a 6s6p pack
Edit: forget anything I said. I just got back home and turns out it arrived
@@chelarestelar Happy to hear it arrived. I know the pain of waiting for parts. I actually had a bike part arriving after 6months due to COVID.
Just make sure to leave and charge it for good amount of time and you you can also use it while connected to the charger, not sure if will make a difference tho.
How many for doing me one ?
Im new so want to be sure if i wanted 48v 17ah I would need 65 cells for a 13s5p configuration? that would be 65 cells i need? do i need to change the bms to 48v 20A like this one? www.aliexpress.com/item/33000839343.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.32.6b557abeW49ASK
Hi, you will need 52 cells 13s3p and you will have a 17+Ah with cells that are with 3400+ Ah capacity. For the BMS I would stick with 20A one if your hub is rated for 500W or lower, if its more then go for bigger Amperage BMS. Have in mind this does not have on/off function but it does have a temp sensor. For on off you will need to use a latching button that will be rated for what your BMS is rated.
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