How do open source projects make money? | Travis Oliphant and Lex Fridman
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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I worked for IBM in the past and IBM sucks. I've been contributing to open source since 2001 and I do it to give back to society. Even if people ask me "why you throwing money away?" I don't care. Some things are more important than trying to suck as money as you can.
Luckily I have a good day job that pays well, so I can spend my free time contributing to open source.
You are a good man
Thank you for your work sir
You are a legend
As a Fedora Linux user, reading "IBM sucks" in itself sucks now that they own Red Hat lol RH has been one of the biggest contributors to the Linux kernel and open-source in general.
@@---GOD--- I haven't used Fedora in a long time. I use Ubuntu. Agree it sucks that IBM bought Redhat, but when your finances are in the red you have to do something.
So I watched this and I still don't know.
Same here..
Thank God!! I'm not alone...I too didn't get how do open source projects make money...Is the title misleading?
Same. My takeaway: a person smarter than me spent decades trying to monetize open source and still couldn't.
lol yup
Well in fairness to Stallman, just because he gave an unsatisfactory answer on one aspect of Free Software, it doesn't mean that the whole movement is worthless. He's a bright guy, but he's not going to have all the answers, and the ones that he does have may have room for improvement - just like any other human being.
This is an awesome piece of conversation! Particularly the part about the information flow enabled by the price system emerging from trading by the people
How to generate revenue? Two extremely talented software engineers can't understand that 90% of the software engineers in the world are not as competent as them :-). Contributing meanfully to an open source project is the best business card a software engineer can have. A viable open source project creates a business community using the software for which you, the contributor are an extremely valuable asset. If a business develops software would you not want a "software engineering guru" associated to your development team albeit maybe only a few hours a week?
The secondary market for open source commerce is the only one that should generate revenue. That's also the market that sets price
I'm highly curious to what you mean by secondary market for open source: maintenance? customization? training?
I am looking for How do open source projects make money? I watched the video and I still don't know. What is this video about?
This is really good stuff
So I guess the answer is, you don't?
Economics in private free enterprise is this: To make money, bring value to the marketplace. Then, it is a question of trade. Deciding on the value each side puts on what has been put forth. I know how simplistic that sounds, but that is it. And Pliphant is right, price provides the information needed to know what needs to be produced and how many. Or, if it involves employee and employer, it is the same thing. Value produced by the employee for the money offered. If the employee is not satisfied, check the market. They may be worth more for the same work to someone else.
I am your 4200 viewer…. I’m in the right path
2:00 Tupac Shakur mentioned the same thing with the problem of the educational system ... in an interview when he was 17.
06:07 What mechanism?
Ye I wonder the same, can anyone help :(((
Frictionless mechanism
@@raybartrom332 You're the MVP
@@raybartrom332 Oh. Thanks. I thought this was some new concept or something, like in the movie ‘Time’ .🙂
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Have lex ever heard about donating money...it very easy to donate money to open source projects like numpy
Talking but saying nothing: 8:02 minutes wasted.
All of the Lex clips are so clickbait!
6 kids? Jesus Christ
Literally every single piece of software that I _wanted to_ support and paid for, the ones that looked like they were about to be a huge force multiplier, a robust aid; every single one of them turned not only bad, but so much so that using or not using them isn't even a question - they do nothing to afford any kind of leverage, and the things they did well in the past are now locked away behind bleeding-edge expensive hardware or some such nonsense. I am personally done with the idea that either paid or libre software is how software should be done, if we aim at reducing suffering and enriching experience.
The things I see as having survived either facet of development and maintenance processes are clearly characterized in some kind of mission-statement, move slower than kids grow up, and the end result is not even a product, it's a toolkit of some sort that you're getting with no documentation and nobody to help you figure it out, as good as it might be.
I left the field thoroughly used and disillusioned, and nothing in the last 10 years appeared to change that in any way. Shameful, what you kids have done with what we built.
Instead of putting the blame on the younger gen for being sloppy with it, how about pointing fingers at the other end of your own gen. The greedy corporate pigs.
You are on point, sir/madam. "Reducing suffering and enriching experience." I'd pay for a packaged product which just works (ex: Splunk) but wouldn't for a library I have to install/customize/provision/monitor (say, an open source Splunk alternative using Flume + Graphana).
At about the four minute mark regarding the comments about the impossibility of operating a system without private property on account of the fact of the inability to properly price parcels . . . I could figure out a way to do it in 2 seconds which I did once I heard you say that but God bless you capitalism is the way God bless America forget the 40 million people in poverty I say we read Jonathan Swift and take it to heart just kidding but now you're right totally right peace out peace prosperity happiness equanimity longevity I'll see you and yours God bless very truly yours me