Ben Shapiro Doesn't Understand Glass Onion (or Art)

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  • It’s a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth.
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:55 Ben Shapiro doesn't understand Glass Onion
    6:31 Ben Shapiro doesn't understand art
    14:26 The end
    Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery (titled onscreen as simply Glass Onion) is a 2022 American mystery film written and directed by Rian Johnson and produced by Johnson and Ram Bergman. It is the sequel to the 2019 film Knives Out, with Daniel Craig reprising his role as master detective Benoit Blanc as he takes on a new case revolving around a tech billionaire and his old friends. The ensemble cast includes Edward Norton, Janelle Monáe, Kathryn Hahn, Leslie Odom Jr., Jessica Henwick, Madelyn Cline, Kate Hudson, and Dave Bautista. In Glass Onion, tech billionaire Miles Bron invites his friends for a getaway on his private Greek island. When someone turns up dead, Detective Benoit Blanc is put on the case.
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  • @PillarofGarbage
    @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +93

    Latest, greatest Glass Onion video out now: ua-cam.com/video/_xOBJ9pEQE0/v-deo.html

    • @johnlewis9158
      @johnlewis9158 Рік тому +2

      I haven't seen the film so whether it's dumb or not i couldn't say. That said the Critical drinker who i consider the best film reviewer on the internet calls the glass house a masterpiece of stupidity

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +9

      @@johnlewis9158 Perfect. No notes.

    • @johnlewis9158
      @johnlewis9158 Рік тому

      @@PillarofGarbage Sorry am i supposed to guess what your post means or should i know

    • @ThePonderer
      @ThePonderer Рік тому

      @@johnlewis9158 it means Critical Drinker is a moron, and having him be your high standard of criticism on this platform doesn’t suggest great things about your taste in or comprehension of art.

    • @johnlewis9158
      @johnlewis9158 Рік тому

      @@ThePonderer So what saying is because his tastes don't coincide with your own he must be a moron. Indeed this film from what i can see has had more than its fair share of bad reviews so what that says exactly i don't know. As for my taste in films well to be honest you wouldn't know my favourites because most of them are well before your time.

  • @Aitrus89
    @Aitrus89 Рік тому +7379

    “It’s a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth.” -Benoit Blanc

    • @Dalekzilla54
      @Dalekzilla54 Рік тому +318

      "Are you saying Ben's dangerous?"

    • @ClintBandito
      @ClintBandito Рік тому +305

      @@Dalekzilla54 unfortunately thanks to the fact that people actually listen to and buy into him... Yeah he is, just not on his own

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +18

      I honestly think that Ben got the amazing idea to create brand synergy between Jews and Conservatives. That if he could infiltrate the right that Jews would be viewed better in America. I honestly do not think that he disliked Glas onion or misunderstood it.

    • @ania5038
      @ania5038 Рік тому +6

      It's a dangerous thing when society is agreeing with itself that not liking a movie means you're a fascist.

    • @ClintBandito
      @ClintBandito Рік тому +171

      @@ania5038 literally no one said that, please pay actual attention.

  • @philskrzeczynski390
    @philskrzeczynski390 Рік тому +1162

    The biggest plot hole in glass onion is a group of friends all showing up to social plans within minutes of each other

    • @WhatisReal11
      @WhatisReal11 Рік тому

      the entire film is a plot hole, the chemistry between these idiots is a lobotomy. The film is trash, woke or not.

    • @philskrzeczynski390
      @philskrzeczynski390 Рік тому +7

      @@WhatisReal11 I think you would enjoy it, it's really funny

    • @annointedbytalos5673
      @annointedbytalos5673 Рік тому +21

      @@LizzyDizzyYo you just need a person like me who really cannot arrive on time except in emergencies. Then you would have the same person showing up late consistently.

    • @gracefoster7587
      @gracefoster7587 Рік тому +25

      I honestly cannot remember a time where every single person in one of my friend groups has been able to make it to an event after college

    • @roshe7887
      @roshe7887 Рік тому +18

      Well did any of you ever get an invitation to a private island?

  • @maxvandalfsen8273
    @maxvandalfsen8273 Рік тому +4253

    Ben getting the country Birdie's sweatshop was in wrong is litteraly him accidentally repeating a joke and plot point from the first Knives Out about how awfull and ignorant the elite is. Most screen writers can't write irony this good

    • @hedwigk272
      @hedwigk272 Рік тому +302

      That was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read his tantrum thread. Life imitates art.

    • @alastorcorvus
      @alastorcorvus Рік тому +308

      But in Knives out, it was also a reference to the internalized racism in most of the Thrombleys, they don't really care about her, despite every country they mention having very different cultures from the others.
      They literally see all of Latinamerica as an amorphous landmass of brown people with funny accents, which also describes Shapiro's views.

    • @kencult
      @kencult Рік тому +52

      This is hilarious. What a great cherry on top

    • @lilyofluck371
      @lilyofluck371 Рік тому +27

      @@alastorcorvus I think it's both, but I also believe it's more about greed

    • @a-10warthog78
      @a-10warthog78 Рік тому +66

      Ben Shapiro is *part* of the Knives Out franchise’s theming and I love it

  • @koushikraja331
    @koushikraja331 Рік тому +2281

    Rian Johnson is probably snickering because he's got a new character for the third knives out.

    • @fds7476
      @fds7476 Рік тому +225

      I thought Jacob Thrombey from Knives Out was supposed to be a Ben Shapiro stand-in. You know, the pint-sized alt-right troll.

    • @ridori7376
      @ridori7376 Рік тому +225

      @@fds7476 Jacob was less Ben Shapiro himself and more Ben Shapiro's audience.

    • @ridori7376
      @ridori7376 Рік тому +6

      @Part-Time Gamer Nice opinion, did your favorite youtuber give it to you?

    • @svgerd
      @svgerd Рік тому +13

      @@fds7476 yeah thats what i thought too, bc otherwise the hair and fashion wouldnt fit the character stereotype. it felt quite distinctly ben shapiro

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Рік тому +29

      Love him or hate him, Rian Johnson does whatever he wants and I love him for it because that’s creative freedom.

  • @indigo8722
    @indigo8722 Рік тому +3053

    Ben Shapiro the kind of guy to think Miles Bron is the protagonist

    • @indigo8722
      @indigo8722 Рік тому +296

      Also his point about Rian Johnson not launching rockets is also incredibly lazy politics, every conservative ever has said this same thing insinuating that anyone who criticizes rich people is just jealous and unsuccessful, I mean at least Rian Johnson hasn't lost the equivalent of a middling countries GDP recently? Wouldn't call that successful entrepreneurship 🤷

    • @jeffreydenenberg7101
      @jeffreydenenberg7101 Рік тому +90

      @@indigo8722 really said "what color is your bugatti?" to another adult person

    • @MagnaDroid1
      @MagnaDroid1 Рік тому +24

      I wouldn't blame him for thinking that, after all they have so much in common.

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 Рік тому +44

      @@indigo8722 It's like Andrew Taint asking people that criticize him "what color is your Bugatti?".

    • @indigo8722
      @indigo8722 Рік тому +45

      @@madsgrams2069 except in this case, Ben is such a billionaire lapdog he's saying it on behalf of someone who doesn't care who he is and probably never will lol

  • @YourXavier
    @YourXavier Рік тому +2373

    "Your character doesn't live up to the stereotype I'm trying to force on it, so that means you're a bad writer" is certainly an opinion worthy of Ben Shapiro.

    • @mainely8007
      @mainely8007 Рік тому

      Shapiro is nothing more than an unprincipled reactionary right winger. As such, the digs against Musk and Trump in this movie got under his skin. His critique is not based on actual honest observation but is simply a baseless attempt to trash the film.

    • @DominicGreene72
      @DominicGreene72 Рік тому +49

      It’s interesting because I’m not particularly creative, rather very logical, and even I appreciate the fact that the very tropes that he criticizes the movie for not following weren’t born out of logical connections, but generations of people deviating from the norm and putting their own creative twists on the pre-existing norms.

    • @michaelbozas
      @michaelbozas Рік тому +18

      I don't think that a sentence could better describe the way that Ben views screenwriting and media in general.

    • @JohnSmith-yd5wq
      @JohnSmith-yd5wq Рік тому +13

      And to think Ben Shapiro failed in Hollywood even with all his family's connections and money.

    • @armingleiner5292
      @armingleiner5292 Рік тому +1

      The movie is utter garbage and anyone defending it should watch it again objectively.

  • @madaemon
    @madaemon Рік тому +952

    Ben is the freshman who thinks he knows more than the professor after reading the first chapter of the textbook. In Econ 101 you learn the equilibrium of supply and demand; in Physics 101, you learn the apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity; in Storytelling 101, you learn a story has three sections, a clear protagonist and an antagonist... then you learn nothing is quite that simple.

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 Рік тому +57

      It turns out that the map is not the territory. Some people keep acting offended at the idea of the the world in fact not having lines drawn on it to denote boundaries between differently colored territories.
      Fuck I didn't mean it to be a metaphor for his border control stance but here we are.

    • @OdinsSage
      @OdinsSage Рік тому

      This

    • @smp5093
      @smp5093 Рік тому

      Except he does and that's where your argument falls flat.

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 Рік тому

      @@smp5093
      He severely doesn't understand economics, and what he does know is stretched thin by his need to justify his own viewpoint. He knows a lot about law, since he went to law school, but even then that doesn't save him from still misrepresenting CRT, despite being more accurate than your average chud take.

    • @apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
      @apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Рік тому +42

      He's literally said that he "disagreed with basically everything [his] professors said" while in law school, he's the premiere example of the dunning krueger effect

  • @viniciusferrari2653
    @viniciusferrari2653 Рік тому +867

    let's say it clearly.
    the movie made fun of rich people, and as a little rich people's puppy as ben is, he had to defend it with any bullshit possible.

    • @Uhshawdude
      @Uhshawdude Рік тому +1

      Ben is just salty that he’s one of the shitheads. Sucking off the golden tits of the Koch brothers.

    • @silverkyre
      @silverkyre Рік тому +53

      It also makes fun of people lik3 Ben who thinks he's smart and says stupid things all time. I'm sure he identified with Bron cause that's who he would want to he thinking he's cool and what not but in reality idiots who just say dumb things with confidence.

    • @weignerleigner3037
      @weignerleigner3037 Рік тому +4

      I don’t think that’s it. I think it’s the fact that this is a mystery series and they tell you the mystery like 15 minutes into the film. A mystery film isn’t good when you can predict everything that happens.

    • @viniciusferrari2653
      @viniciusferrari2653 Рік тому +27

      @@weignerleigner3037 dude, the twin sister literally appears only after the 1h mark. only then the mystery is told.

    • @weignerleigner3037
      @weignerleigner3037 Рік тому +5

      @@viniciusferrari2653 yeah but literally once the big dude dies you see his phone in Ed Norton’s pocket.......that literally gives the entire thing away. The entire movie I’m thinking no way they will make it him it’s too obvious. The whole twin sister thing is really irrelevant to the story. In fact the story in itself behind the mystery becomes irrelevant because the whole concept of knives out is basically the game clue. The background stories become irrelevant when the suspect is obvious for most of the movie. The entire time they make Ed Norton seem so guilty that you are expecting something crazy to happen that will change your entire perspective around. And it never comes. Your just told how stupid Ed Norton is and how stupid the entire movie is. They literally in the movie tell you this movie is stupid lmao. And yet people are still defending it. Obviously what people enjoy is subjective but I walked away from the movie thinking the same thing Ben said this is a complete waste of my time.

  • @cougar6441
    @cougar6441 Рік тому +2337

    "Why the misdirect?"
    ...that's called a plot twist Ben

    • @TheWasif
      @TheWasif Рік тому +107

      Why the mystery? 😂
      Ben coming upon a clue is also a twist, as completely unbelievable as that is based on how his character has developed.

    • @byronburke2162
      @byronburke2162 Рік тому +100

      "Why the dialogue?"
      -Ben Shapiro, probably

    • @TheLightSideReactions
      @TheLightSideReactions Рік тому +7

      Misdirects are cheap knockoffs of plot twists. For a masterclass in plot twists, watch "The Sixth Sense." No cheap, illogical misdirects; just unexpected twists that were right under your nose the whole time. In a movie with good plot twists, you watch it a second time and ask, "How did I miss all those clues?" ... not "Why did the writer retcon the whole story on the last page?"

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 Рік тому +80

      @@TheLightSideReactions I didn't pick up on everything, and I know that there are more clues that I missed that weren't pointed out in the film, but I saw Miles swap the glasses and saw that he had something (a phone) in his pocket when he turns around a bit when he runs back from the rest of them. The only time that it's "lying" is when it is explicitly framed as being a character's memories of the event instead of just being the event. They do show Duke accidentally pick up Miles' drink, but only when characters are trying to remember what happened. Nothing important wasn't set up by the first half of the film. The idea that these are complete 180 twists out of nowhere is only true if you're not paying attention.

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 Рік тому +42

      @@TheLightSideReactions
      The Sixth Sense is full of misdirects, especially in how Bruce Willis' character is framed.

  • @PadraigG8
    @PadraigG8 Рік тому +1354

    "Ben sees divergence form the norm and sees not innovation but aberation."
    Conservatism 101

    • @Uhshawdude
      @Uhshawdude Рік тому +65

      And he wonders why he couldn’t cut it as a screenwriter. Theres no glory in any artistic pursuit for people who see breaking the rules as a bad thing. He would make it as a suit, but not as a creator, as much as he would like to be one.

    • @lilyofluck371
      @lilyofluck371 Рік тому +14

      that line reminds me of the line, "[genres] aren't robust categories, and trying to analyze them as such reveals holes basically instantly."

    • @MinimumWageREI
      @MinimumWageREI Рік тому +2

      Sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn't. Let's be honest, about 10 minutes into the 2nd act we all knew who did it and who would be the hero.

    • @ac27934
      @ac27934 Рік тому

      Not all change is progress. See the new regressive left. Full of blatant racism and misogyny that's rolling back hard-won civil rights and calling it progress.

    • @akiraeatsguitarpicks491
      @akiraeatsguitarpicks491 Рік тому +6

      @@MinimumWageREI that’s kinda the point in murder mysteries

  • @thescowlingschnauzer
    @thescowlingschnauzer Рік тому +585

    "Upon finding it impossible to understand a thing, he's just blaming the thing for his inability to understand it." There it is.

    • @shlockofgod
      @shlockofgod Рік тому +1

      If you want to see this movie done right then watch "Burn after reading".

    • @Quarrel_
      @Quarrel_ Рік тому +4

      @@shlockofgodno thanks :)

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces Рік тому +18

      Like a dog barking at some wind chimes.
      @@shlockofgod
      I have seen that movie, it's not "this movie done right," it's a totally different movie.

    • @sandrafaith
      @sandrafaith Рік тому +1

      Perfectly stated. _Chef's kiss_

    • @srutzky
      @srutzky Рік тому +4

      Exactly. Isn't it pretty much on-brand for conservatives in general to misunderstand, or deny the existence of, nuance?

  • @samniel
    @samniel Рік тому +674

    Not only is "Once more with clarity" a trope that's not even exclusive to the mystery genre, mystery media generally has flashbacks to explain events from another perspective. In film, this can also be combined with the summation, where the detective character generally explains what happened, and we the audience see the plot from other points of view, as recently as Murder on the Orient Express.
    Ben's angry because he doesn't even understand the media he's criticizing (granted, he's angry because he wanted to be angry, considering the movie was "woke", but I digress). Especially since, on a rewatch, you can tell the switcheroo going on: the clues were there and the title itself tells you: it's so easy to get lost in apparent complexity, that you miss the answer staring you in the face.

    • @ConductiveFoam
      @ConductiveFoam Рік тому +43

      The fact that you can see the clues from the beginning is one of my favorite things about this movie. It just works so, so well. I love it

    • @YEY0806
      @YEY0806 Рік тому +1

      @@ConductiveFoam it is very thematic as well

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 Рік тому +2

      The funny thing is, the movie is criticising the same people Ben criticizes: the liberals and their hypocrisy. He just saw elon musk and he forgot about the movie's other characters being liberal parody. Even Elon was once darling of liberals during his electric car, hyperloop time.

    • @sofiaferreira2022
      @sofiaferreira2022 Рік тому

      @@ConductiveFoam Could you give me examples of what you are calling "clues", please?
      I've read other comments on 1) Helen smashing the box with a towel on her hair, in a way we couldn't see her hair, 2) Helen again, but on the boat, where she (who we thought was Andi) was seemingly angry, but was actually just feeling sick and 3) Duke looking angry about being cheated on, when in fact he was the one who asked her girlfriend to get in bed with Miles.
      In my opinion, though, these aren't really clues, since we didn't really have the information necessary to interpret the scenes in a different light. To me, it was just a plot twist that reframed some scenes for the viewer. And I don't think it's deceiving nor uninterenting. I just don't understand how some of you guys are calling it "clues".
      Always like to get a different perspective on stuff. Please enlighten me! Thanks. :)

    • @joanmj
      @joanmj Місяць тому

      In the pool scene in the background we can actually see something being thrown into birdies bag​@@sofiaferreira2022

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Рік тому +5527

    While I'm not going to argue that Shapiro ISN'T an idiot, I think his inability to understand Glass Onion mostly comes from bad faith, from him being unwilling to engage with it. I'm sure Ben went into this movie with the intention of taking it down somehow, because it's a Rian Johnson movie starring a black woman with anti-rich themes.
    Basically, Ben didn't pay attention to Glass Onion because he was way too busy looking for things to get angry about, as usual.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +934

      A very possible option!

    • @passiveaggressive6175
      @passiveaggressive6175 Рік тому +38

      💯

    • @dapperdawgplays
      @dapperdawgplays Рік тому +164

      @@PillarofGarbage Honestly I think this is the most likely answer.

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Рік тому +232

      Ding ding ding! When I saw his “review” making the rounds, I assumed he wanted to knock the film to score points with HIS audience. It doesn’t matter whether his arguments are valid or not. The shitheads in his fandom will eat it up and nod their heads. So meta.

    • @ameliecarre4783
      @ameliecarre4783 Рік тому +116

      You're certainly right, but really I'd say the bad faith comes ON TOP of the idiotic, culturally deficient Dunning-Krüger overconfidence. The bad faith and biases inform the stupidity and vice versa.

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 Рік тому +2592

    I’d also like to point out that Rian Johnson wrote and directed this movie months/years before Elon Musk bought Twitter. So if Shapiro is mad about comparisons to Musk’s… dumbass traits, it probably says more about him than “the Left.”

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +295

      A very good point!

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Рік тому +218

      He actually didnt deny musk was an influence, but one of many, and that with twitter, is fitting but not planned at all.
      Musk was already awful then, just less covered.

    • @samuelbarber6177
      @samuelbarber6177 Рік тому +163

      To be fair, even before he bought Twitter, Musk’s idiocy was on full display, it’s just the Twitter purchase made a lot more people pay attention to him and pick sides

    • @sleepcrime
      @sleepcrime Рік тому +73

      @@samuelbarber6177 Remember when he went on stage to demonstrate the unsmashable windows but just smashed right through them? lol. Then he did it again moments later!!!! lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +16

      I think this movie is about JJ Abrams as well.
      It’s crazy how in the 2000s how many incompetent people made it to the top. Even in from in the 90s you had to be the best at it and nowadays anyone gets a try.

  • @hugoCastellnaos
    @hugoCastellnaos Рік тому +897

    Ben Shapiro is an expert on bad writing, just look at all the bad books he has written.

    • @dma69nyc
      @dma69nyc Рік тому

      I watched Clapo Trap House reading True Allegiance on UA-cam. BOY, is his writing bad! ua-cam.com/video/J1FLVnzMBIY/v-deo.html

    • @M.A.C.01
      @M.A.C.01 Рік тому +24

      Yeah I heard of his terrible lazy writing that reads more like rejected screenplay

    • @ecyor0
      @ecyor0 Рік тому

      ​@@M.A.C.01 dude wrote a book where a cop side character shoots a 9-year-old black kid with a fake gun *and you're supposed to feel bad for the cop* .

    • @pteroid11
      @pteroid11 Рік тому +21

      God his novel was soooo bad. ‘No you’re all wrong, Iraq and Iran WERE besties because my fictional book says so!’

    • @JohnHughesChampigny
      @JohnHughesChampigny Рік тому +18

      @@pteroid11 Everyone knows Iran and Iraq were pals, just look at the names, couldn't be more obvious.

  • @zoc.6922
    @zoc.6922 Рік тому +638

    The funny thing is that there were clues about both the twin and the killer before the reveal. One thing that really stuck out to me is that shot of Andi's hand holding onto the railing of the boat. That shot looked so off. She looked uncomfortable even though it's assumed that she's been on a boat before and such because she used to be close with miles. But, we write that off as her being uncomfortable with the situation. Later on, we figure out that it's Helen. Another thing was Miles interrupting Duke when he was going to say he almost ran him over on the way to Andi's house, he says Anderson Cooper.

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Рік тому +71

      Or that Miles would have to be a total idiot to risk murdering Andi at her home so soon after the trial

    • @danielcooper3332
      @danielcooper3332 Рік тому +71

      Also the scene at the begining when Helen (who we think is Andi) smashes the box. When we find out later that Miles shafted Andi and kicked her out of the company we assume she smashed the box because she couldn't be bothered playing Miles games but we come to learn that it was because Helen wasn't as smart as her sister.

    • @davidv4018
      @davidv4018 Рік тому +1

      I thought that those were evidence that Andi was dealing with a disease.

    • @Uhshawdude
      @Uhshawdude Рік тому +90

      What got me was the very obvious flubs from Miles. The beach scene one was so obvious that i was already looking for more, so Rian makes it clear that this man is not as smart as he thinks he is.
      Another is that he got the hydrogen fuel idea from some rando at a psychedelic retreat. He obviously has a surface level understanding of the industries he plans to “disrupt”, and is shockingly gullible. Much like Musk and Twitter. They are so arrogant and sure of their own intelligence that they are fundamentally incurious people, bored by the idea of personal growth, and thus constantly walk into obvious blunders.

    • @zoc.6922
      @zoc.6922 Рік тому +84

      @@Uhshawdude This!! Miles kept using weird words. I've read quite a few of books, his vocabulary was so out of place. "infraction point" "inbreathiate" like what?? he kept using words in the wrong context. plus his metaphors were so all over the place. it helped distinguish Det. Blanc because he used diverse vocabulary and metaphors in the correct way. With Det. Blanc, it's just a quirk with Miles, it's him trying to sound smart. It kind of reminded me of Elon Musk on twitter. He was talking about "hardcore software engineering" i was like wth does that even mean?? like he just said a bunch of words without really saying anything...

  • @gibberishname
    @gibberishname Рік тому +4596

    reminder: Ben Shapiro is a failed SCREENWRITER. That makes it even FUNNIER

    • @ceeemm1901
      @ceeemm1901 Рік тому +156

      Proof- he writes his own blurbs, nuff said. Can't wait for "Shapiro the Movie" directed by Quentin Tarantino and starring Pee Wee Herman in the lead role.

    • @zachryder3150
      @zachryder3150 Рік тому +36

      A BEAR of a man!

    • @mikaelste-marie1275
      @mikaelste-marie1275 Рік тому

      ​@@ajitadonismanilal9105Look at review/reading of his fiction book. It's so bad (plus fucking racist, but normal with Shapiro).

    • @mr.incorporeal7642
      @mr.incorporeal7642 Рік тому +35

      Emphasis on "failed".

    • @rockinroller25
      @rockinroller25 Рік тому +84

      He was a fail son screenwriter, his parents were connected to the industry, even with the amount of second chances he must’ve had other screenwriters would never get without nepotism shows how bad of a writer Ben must truly be.

  • @colonelweird
    @colonelweird Рік тому +1516

    I didn't read the whole Shapiro thread, but... doesn't he realize Glass Onion is also a comedy? Obviously the reason it defies whodunit tropes is in part because it's funny.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +525

      Comedy is a Liberal Trick

    • @ceeemm1901
      @ceeemm1901 Рік тому

      Autistics have trouble reading the room....and humor.

    • @TheCowardRobertFord
      @TheCowardRobertFord Рік тому +280

      @@PillarofGarbage It was created by those liberal playwrights for Athens who wanted to keep their city free from the mainly men of Sparta, the original Republicans!

    • @ggddgg
      @ggddgg Рік тому +9

      @@TheCowardRobertFord😂

    • @ameliecarre4783
      @ameliecarre4783 Рік тому +108

      When it comes to Ben Shapiro, I believe the answer to any "Doesn't he realize..." question is always gonna be "No."

  • @cara_carambola
    @cara_carambola Рік тому +578

    What I really like about the situation is that Glass Onion isn't a smart movie, it's a popcorn movie. A popcorn movie that explain it's thesis during a monologue. A monologue delivered directly to the audience and yet this man cannot fathom the meaning of this movie, it's amazing.

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +23

      I think it’s genius for several reasons.

    • @QueenFondue
      @QueenFondue Рік тому +150

      @@VonJay It's smartly assembled! It's very clearly put together with a lot of thought for how every piece plays into the effect of the film. But it's not the kind of movie that expects you to deeply analyze it in order to understand its thesis. It's right there, clear and center.

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +14

      @@QueenFondue never said it was deep or required a lot of thinking, just saying it was genius and well put together.

    • @1998Cebola
      @1998Cebola Рік тому +3

      @@VonJay "genius"

    • @shlockofgod
      @shlockofgod Рік тому +2

      It's an orderly arrangement of nonsense.

  • @happysnail8546
    @happysnail8546 Рік тому +520

    what I love about Glass Onion is that it has to live up to Knives Out being this surprising, genre defying movie. and the way Rian Johnson has achieved it for me is by just making a very literal and entertaining movie. and yet, everyone is going to try and pick it apart looking for deep meaning.
    like, they tell you ALL THE TIME that it's not that deep. and that's it. the title, the concept, even the monologue where they straight up explain what the movie is about. it's all right there, but repeated, in layers, all of the time. just like the glass onion itself. and this guy still doesn't get it.

    • @jeremiahsaxton8967
      @jeremiahsaxton8967 Рік тому +17

      RIGHT!?!! I kept telling that to my best friend's family as we were watching the movie

    • @McDonaldsCalifornia
      @McDonaldsCalifornia Рік тому +24

      Especially as the second in the series the concept is genius and so we'll executed.
      Just the title alone told us, hey this is not as complex as it seems yet everything pulled us towards being dazzled by the cristaline layers of the glass onion anyways

    • @SomeUniqueHandle
      @SomeUniqueHandle Рік тому +6

      I thought Glass Onion was far better than Knives Out. The core points of Knives Out didn't make much sense to me - the main suspect's inability to lie without getting ill wasn't consistent, among other issues. Glass Onion had a few minor items that bugged me but it was internally consistent as well as devious. The surprises in the movie were all nicely foreshadowed yet they all had alternate, plausible explanations so they weren't obvious.

    • @tayzk5929
      @tayzk5929 Рік тому +2

      Don't like Shapiro, Glass Onion is a trash movie though.

    • @SuperGlobalKiller
      @SuperGlobalKiller Рік тому

      Then you don’t need a superdetective in the movie, makes you want a deeper mystery, that is the true flaw to me.

  • @itsjustme6018
    @itsjustme6018 Рік тому +2347

    Ben Shapiro is the most unintentionally funniest person I’ve ever seen.
    Between the way he talks, his goofy demeanor, that weird squint in his eyes when he thinks he’s right, he’s just a joke of a person. I cannot take him seriously as an individual.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +335

      he’s like a real life teddy bear with Evil in his heart

    • @ceeemm1901
      @ceeemm1901 Рік тому +46

      All the attributes that makes those unpopular kids at school get bullied.......the names he would have been called in his childhood and teens I assume were endless, let alone not getting laid.

    • @Greenteabook
      @Greenteabook Рік тому +96

      @@ceeemm1901 considering he publicly announced he thinks arousal in women is a medical condition his own WIFE" corroborated" last year, I think he still isn't getting laid.

    • @ceeemm1901
      @ceeemm1901 Рік тому +37

      @@Greenteabook So he calls his inflatable doll, "Wife"?....interesting...

    • @josephdanieljirehdimacali4418
      @josephdanieljirehdimacali4418 Рік тому +10

      @@PillarofGarbage more like Real life Mandark. 😂😂

  • @jkfecke
    @jkfecke Рік тому +540

    "Ben thinks he's smart." Alas, another way Ben is wrong.

    • @cajunking5987
      @cajunking5987 Рік тому +1

      Because being dumb in some subjects makes a person dumb completely? Ben is smart.

    • @jonathanpayne4772
      @jonathanpayne4772 Рік тому

      @@cajunking5987Lol no, he’s as dumb as many of the other people in his party. I feel bad for the actual decent Republicans that they are lumped in with the alt right blithering idiots.

    • @M.A.C.01
      @M.A.C.01 Рік тому +18

      @@cajunking5987yeah smart enough to pose as an actual “smart guy”

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 Рік тому +20

      @@cajunking5987 he's not gonna sleep with you

    • @cajunking5987
      @cajunking5987 Рік тому

      @@M.A.C.01 Congrats, you disagree with him a lot. By the logic, I suppose you’re braindead

  • @Sherlocklord
    @Sherlocklord Рік тому +100

    The fact that he thinks the murder should be in the first 30 seconds tells me the only murder mystery he's seen is Law and Order

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 2 місяці тому

      or the fact part of the movie's twist is there was even a murder at all

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin1265 Рік тому +49

    Ben was so emotionally compromised watching this. A perfect example. The politician (can't remember her name) mentions that endorsing the plant will be career suicide, but she needs to do it to get elected one more time. If elected, she will greenlight the plant, and Miles will make sure she gets elected. But she realizes that will be her last term. But it's either one more term, or don't endorse the plant, and don't even get that.
    Ben's criticism is that she is greenlighting the plant, despite it damaging her political career. Which is exactly what her point was. He's criticizing a plot point for simply being the plot.

  • @passiveaggressive6175
    @passiveaggressive6175 Рік тому +534

    The film in his eyes is ‘woke’. It has diversity, plus a smart black woman playing the lead. It also has an anti capitalist/billionaire cautionary tale/message. Of course he and his incel cousins are gonna hate it

    • @matthewvivian7235
      @matthewvivian7235 Рік тому +57

      Without a doubt, he went into it knowing he was going to post a rant about how "bad" it is.

    • @samuelbarber6177
      @samuelbarber6177 Рік тому +19

      He’d still consider it so even if it wasn’t ‘eat the rich’. The film features rich people as being villains and it was written and directed by Rian Johnson, and… while I don’t know Ben’s opinion on Johnson’s work… I’m sure he loved The Last Jedi.

    • @tallonteel6670
      @tallonteel6670 Рік тому +1

      About capitalist means their for communism or socialism. I don't think I have to explain myself any further. Just look what happened in the last 120 years.

    • @shippendales8543
      @shippendales8543 Рік тому +41

      And also stars a confirmed lead gay male character in a long term relationship probably married lol
      The film is very anti who he is and what he stands for as he has said numerous times over the years.

    • @matthewvivian7235
      @matthewvivian7235 Рік тому +25

      @@shippendales8543 Blanc's confirmed to be in a domestic partnership. Basically means he's not married, but he gets lots of the boring legal perks.

  • @robbyten100
    @robbyten100 Рік тому +584

    I really liked the switch at the middle. The Helen twist was interesting and the non linear story telling was better than a possible linear one. Shapiro's complaints make no sense.

    • @KillerOfWhales
      @KillerOfWhales Рік тому +47

      The nonlinear storytelling is especially interesting with the Mona Lisa metaphor going through the movie especially with Andi/Helen, where every time you look at her again she looks just a bit different, literally in the scenes we return to from her point of view in that second act.

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +21

      I didn’t enjoy the switch until I understood what the movie was really about. It’s not really a murder mystery it’s an investigation into stupid influencers. Then I read that Rian Johnson was absolutely mad that “knives out” had to be included into the glass onion movie title. It’s not a knives out movie.

    • @Thesmus
      @Thesmus Рік тому +8

      @@VonJay actually though, i think the movie would have been fine without the knives out title

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Рік тому +7

      @@Thesmus studios are always worried people will confuse it for else

    • @Thesmus
      @Thesmus Рік тому +1

      @@VonJay true though, like i also get that they want these movies to be separate while still containing familiarity (added knives out as part of the title rather than the main title). i can't really say whether it was a right decision or not, at the end of it all, not really a huge deal for me haha

  • @MadameTamma
    @MadameTamma Рік тому +508

    The more I think about it, the more I love that the movie chose to go with 'The Mona Lisa' to help make its point.
    Hot take: the Mona Lisa as a piece of art is just okay. It is a perfectly fine, middle of the road, well made painting from an artist who has a large, mixed body of work. On a technical level it's not that special. The whole thing about 'Her eyes follow you around the room.' 'She has such a complex expression.' that you've probably heard associated with Mona Lisa is not unique. The same can be said about a lot of well made portraits. There are interesting stories to be told about things that have happened TO the painting since it was made, but the painting itself isn't spectacular. Sorry to anyone who's seen the painting in person and was genuinely moved by it, I don't want to yuck anyone else's yum
    But the reason why we hold up the Mona Lisa as great is because we are TOLD it is and just kinda go with it.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +87

      Interesting idea!

    • @sarahwickersham
      @sarahwickersham Рік тому +150

      I had this thought immediately while watching. Most people are let down when they finally see the Mona Lisa. It’s small and not particularly special in person. The persona is larger than the piece. It’s a great allegory.

    • @vilkristproductions6772
      @vilkristproductions6772 Рік тому

      The only reason the mona lisa ever got fame was notoriety for being stolen by some random guy in the 1930s iirc.
      Its fame isnt even because of itself.

    • @hcxpl1
      @hcxpl1 Рік тому +80

      @@sarahwickersham when it appeared I was kind rolling my eyes at the whole "Monalisa is a masterpiece" bc I hadn't realized the thematic purpose of it until this comment

    • @monicarenee7949
      @monicarenee7949 Рік тому +64

      @@sarahwickersham I saw her in the Louvre a few years ago and that was my first reaction. The time it took to run through the Louvre before it closed, get through all the people, and of course they put that exhibit all the way towards the back of the museum so you’re forced to go through the museum. Then we got to the room and of course it’s a huge crowd of people and it’s roped off and I see this tiny painting on the wall and I’m like “oh”. Lol. It was something to check off my bucket list and I do appreciate being able to see it because I’m really into art and historical sites, but it’s very disappointing for the hype it gets

  • @samuelbarber6177
    @samuelbarber6177 Рік тому +200

    It’s weird that he ‘regrets to inform’ us, when I’m at least 60% sure he went in expecting it to be terrible.

  • @looney1023
    @looney1023 Рік тому +29

    It's also funny that Ben talks about the politics of the film being bad but didn't mention that Kathryn Hahn's character is implied to be a Democrat and is also horrible. He either can't acknowledge it because he can't fathom the film being "correct" about anything (since he already decided it's bad), or he's simply too stupid to notice that Johnson is less interested in politics and more interested in socioeconomics, regardless of political leaning.

  • @AngryAussie
    @AngryAussie Рік тому +482

    It's particularly funny to me that simply using images of shapiro while pointing out how stupid he is reinforces "yeah, that looks like a stupid guy"

    • @benwasserman8223
      @benwasserman8223 Рік тому

      Yeah but it gets less funny when you remember this idiot has one of the most shared/subscribed podcasts and Facebook pages.

    • @justaghostinthesea
      @justaghostinthesea Рік тому

      You, sir or madam, are AMAZING

  • @AndrewMovie13
    @AndrewMovie13 Рік тому +266

    The thing that most conservatives don't want to admit is when they don't like a film because they don't agree with it's politics. For example: straight, white, male characters are always allowed to be mediocre characters, but the moment they don't fit into any of the three groups mentioned, conservatives will accuse them of being "forced" into the film/series/game by The Woke Mob™. That's why you see Ben dishing out half-assed film critique to disguise his anger with Rian Johnson for supposedly making fun of his Tesla bestie.

    • @ams914
      @ams914 Рік тому +5

      To be fair, that's true for all partisans. How many leftist movie reviewers dislike a film for those same reasons? Or they pretend that there are politics there that actually aren't there. For years now I've been watching certain films get scores they don't deserve because they're "woke" or whatever, and other films get trashed because the portray the US military in a positive light. This is not a problem unique to conservatives, and in fact seems way more prevalent in the other direction. I don't think anybody could be delusional enough to suggest that Hollywood's core messaging isn't left wing. Since they make all the movies, right wing people are naturally going to be "putting up" with way more stuff they don't like.

    • @biggiehalps
      @biggiehalps Рік тому +1

      @ams914 I mean, having more diverse casts isn't hurting anybody. Top Gun Maverick getting more people to sign up for the military actively gets people killed.

    • @tallonteel6670
      @tallonteel6670 Рік тому

      That's why all you leftist movies have majorly flopped because their characters suck and don't have any character at all. It's all about their skin color and affirmative action.

    • @biggiehalps
      @biggiehalps Рік тому +24

      @tallonteel6670 The Knives Out films' politics are pretty left leaning, and both have been major successes, so idk where you're coming from here

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 Рік тому +1

      @@ams914 That is such complete and utter melarkey, that it's hard for me to not laugh. I'm as die-hard a leftist as they come and I've liked quite a few movies made by Clint Eastwood, Peter Berg and even Mel Gibson...despite their OBVIOUS right-wing biases. I even like most of the Rambo movies, which could only be more "Murica, hells yeah!" if the characters started vomiting stars and stripes and downright love the show Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which is just the most sanitized copaganda possible. And so do MANY left-wing reviewers. And do you honestly think that all the people who praised Top Gun Maverick are Benny Shabeebo-type fashos? Ha...keep deluding yourself! Or that Parasite didn't deserve all the awards it got and was sucessful just because all of Hollywood has a leftist bias? That's even more ridiculous. And if you can't spot the huge anti-fash, anti-U.S. imperialism themes in Star Wars and the equally visible space-communism in Star Trek, then...I don't know what to tell you, except that you're as media illiterate as ol' Benny. It's all about being aware of the ideas contained in the things you consume and not trying to fool yourself, like the right-wingers do. Then you can enjoy...basically anything. Soooo...yeah, I call BS on your blatant BS, sorry.
      And the reason Hollywood seems to have a leftist bias is the same why higher education tends to have one as well: because REALITY STEERS LEFT. Maybe just admit that fact and move on with your life with a modicum of self-awareness....instead of munching on ol' Benny's footwear? No? Suit yourself...

  • @erikscottdebie7665
    @erikscottdebie7665 Рік тому +161

    Ben Shapiro being angry at a mystery movie for being a mystery movie is the most Ben Shapiro thing ever.
    Also your point about Ben thinking he’s a disruptor but he refuses to think outside the box reminds me of that great scene early on where a certain actual disruptor takes a hammer to BigBrain’s puzzle box. :)

    • @OdinsSage
      @OdinsSage Рік тому +3

      Lol, by the end of the movie i forgot she smashed the box with a hammer. This is such a good point!

    • @OdinsSage
      @OdinsSage Рік тому +3

      To be a true disruptor you gotta take a hammer to the system

    • @sentientpieceofcheese
      @sentientpieceofcheese Рік тому +9

      Spoiler
      God I loved the whole ending where she burns the Mona Lisa. These “disrupters” who were so moved by his pretentious speech at how great they all are on “disrupting” and “crossing lines” showed their true colors when faced with actual disruption (ie. when they were all horrified at Helen smashing the Liberace piano, when she lit the place on fire and Miles finally told her to stop, him trying to stop her from pressing the button).
      And Ben fits perfectly in that mold.

    • @longplaidhair1243
      @longplaidhair1243 Рік тому +2

      When we thought that was Andi it seemed like she just didn't want to take time on Bron's BS.

    • @lkeke35
      @lkeke35 Рік тому +3

      Helen destroying that box was how I knew that she was the center of this movie and not Miles Bron! I’ve seen plenty of his type in movies, all over social media, and in books. He’s basically a less competent Tyler Durden. White men with their smooth patina of faux philosophical insight are all over entertainment media and I’ve watched them for years, and I’m familiar with the type. Miles didn’t impress me! Helen’s refusal to go along with what she was supposed to do (solve the puzzle) now that impressed me!

  • @ems9616
    @ems9616 Рік тому +245

    I think whats fascinating is that ben thinks the mystery 'starts' when a body hits the floor...as if you dont spend the whole first half waiting, and trying to figure out, who is going to be murdered in the first place. Slotting together the dynamics, motivations, and assumptions as you wait for the hammer to fall.
    The twist is not that helen is a twin- its that andi is *already dead* and THATS why miles is so shocked to see her at the dock.
    The twist is that the man everyone is motivated to murder is, in fact, not a potential victim, but a killer. The death we are investigating is *not his* (bc well, hes alive). Hes not the most important part of the story. But we're so used to treating rich, powerful, egotistical men like they really are the center of the universe, letting them monopolise the narrative, that subconciously its almost impossible to remember the obvious- miles isnt the victim, the center of the story, because he isnt dead. Hes a suspect.
    And that basic misdirect is why the final revelation is so important- if we were able to step back and assess the situation objectively from the start. If we knew about helen, knew about andi, knew about miles. Thered be no mystery. Miles would be the obvious suspect from the first minute of the film, and the point would be weakened because we, the audience, would not be taken in by his myth. We would see from the start that andi was not the bitter sore loser the shitheads see her as, but the principled woman and (ultimately) victim that she was. Consequently, WE WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MILES GOT AWAY WITH IT. And thats what makes this story work

    • @jaynestrange
      @jaynestrange Рік тому +29

      He also seems to assume that mystery = dead body, which suggests (as someone else commented) that his only mystery experience is with shows like Law & Order. For example, there are plenty of Sherlock Holmes stories that involve no murder at all, including "A Scandal In Bohemia" which is so iconic it's been refenced in basically every Holmes adaption.

    • @didiercollard
      @didiercollard Рік тому +10

      I was going to say it too, but you beat me to it: the first act is the setup to what we expect to be Miles's murder. That expectation is set from the moment we see the invitation, and think, ho ho, how ironic, he doesn't realize how real that murder will be. Then we're introduced to the "Disruptors", and they all seem to be potential suspects, including Andi. Duke dying instead of Miles is a twist, but that he drank from Miles's cup is unsurprising: of course he was the intended target! It's not until Helen gets shot, and the flashback begins, that we start to realize that it's not about Miles's would-be killer at all. But he's not a suspect to us, or Blanc, because A) he's too smart to do something so obvious, right? And B) we still think of him as a target, thanks to the first act. It's very clever, because as noted in the video, in a straightforward telling he would be the most obvious suspect, and we even see the moment he hands Duke the glass. Maybe some eagle-eyed viewers will see that the first time, but most won't...unless they already know to suspect him. Anyway, it's a very clever reveal, but if that's not enough, we have Helen's revenge to offer us even more catharsis than that. If it's not cathartic to see a rich shithead get what he deserves...you might be a shithead yourself!

    • @TheMidwestAtheist
      @TheMidwestAtheist Рік тому

      Principled woman...except her bright idea was a cryptocurrency scam. Andi was not principled...just slightly more so than the other 💩heads. I think it is important to not miss the point that *all* the 💩heads were exactly that, including Andi.

  • @PulpandArt
    @PulpandArt Рік тому +590

    Ben Shapiro is so f-ing wrong about media (and in my opinion everything else) that I sometimes think he is a parody of a Conservative. It is hilarious & embarrassing.

    • @matthewapsey4869
      @matthewapsey4869 Рік тому +1

      (everything else)
      Really?

    • @Protomorfid
      @Protomorfid Рік тому +37

      @@matthewapsey4869 I mean yeah.

    • @Lex_Nocturna
      @Lex_Nocturna Рік тому

      Nope he's an exact representation of hardcore conservatives, dumb people who think fast talking means smart

    • @saintsea-hat7891
      @saintsea-hat7891 Рік тому +66

      @@matthewapsey4869 yeah. Just because he sounds stereotypically nerdy and talks fast and interrupts his opponents doesn’t mean he’s smart or has anything of substance to say.

    • @ams914
      @ams914 Рік тому

      @@saintsea-hat7891 Now you're just hating. He's clearly very smart, and most of what he says is filled with substance, regardless of whether he may be right or wrong on a given issue. When I watch him debate, it's not his foes that look like the smart ones. They're the ones to cry "racist" instead of actually making a point (the most tired trope of them all). He was definitely wrong with this movie review, though, that's for sure. I think he just didn't get it.

  • @truefilm6991
    @truefilm6991 Рік тому +140

    Loved Glass Onion. It's very meta and the screenplay is very clever, with a lot of reverse engineering. Performances are top notch and hysterical. I'll rewatch it as soon as I can. I love it when a movie pulls out the rug from under our feet. Glass Onion simply took it a step or two further. Easy to understand.

    • @mish375
      @mish375 Рік тому +1

      It's a really fun movie to watch. I think the satire of story tropes and society is brilliantly done.

  • @tristonanan
    @tristonanan Рік тому +108

    What gets me is that Miles Bron is directly compared to Mark Zuckerberg in the movie. "He 'Social Network'ed her," was a line about him, and it wasn't complimentary! I'm so surprised I've not seen people discuss that more. Rian Johnson really succeeded when he said he wanted to make Miles reminiscent of a certain type of billionaire if the guy people wanted to defend wasn't even the one mentioned in the film.

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Рік тому +25

      And Miles wears a black turtleneck and jeans in his confrontation with the real Andi in the boardroom, clearly emulating Steve Jobs.

    • @monicarenee7949
      @monicarenee7949 Рік тому +20

      @@mhawang8204 also saw that news editorial picture of him holding up the paper napkin seems to be a copy of a pic of Elizabeth Holmes, who also kinda copied the black turtleneck thing from Steve. I was trying to figure out where I saw something exactly like that before

    • @mikejeffries3333
      @mikejeffries3333 Рік тому +6

      Another thing people defending Musk seem to miss is that this movie almost definitely wasn't written with Musk specifically in mind-it's not like they just made the whole thing within one week-it's just a criticism of billionaires in general, and it happened to come out right as Musk was being a real-life Bron and showing the world that people like him can be charismatic, but it doesn't mean they're not morons.

  • @Grantonioful
    @Grantonioful Рік тому +86

    I love that when we get Helen's back story, and the rest of the weekend is revealed, you get to see the other "layers" of every character and I understood that immediately so I just imagine Ben at that point being like. "That's not fair. How could I know this if you didn't tell us. Leaving me in the dark is not ok. I don't like the dark."

  • @davidalexander3320
    @davidalexander3320 Рік тому +79

    My favorite part of the reaction Elon fans have to this movie is them seeing a tech billionaire who is an idiot and immediately think of Elon.

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 Рік тому +6

      lmao true
      also The funny thing is, the movie is criticising the same people Ben criticizes: the liberals and their hypocrisy. He just saw elon musk and he forgot about the movie's other characters being liberal parody. Even Elon was once darling of liberals during his electric car, hyperloop time.

    • @shlockofgod
      @shlockofgod Рік тому

      I don't know how smart Elon is. But unlike the leftists who previous ran Twitter Elon was smart enough to get rid of all the child porn.

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 Рік тому

      ​@@shlockofgod Why did the leftist not remove it? Are they promoting it.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 Рік тому +14

      @@shlockofgod ,
      Rofl... Nope. According to sources, that didn't happen. CP is still on Twitter.

    • @shlockofgod
      @shlockofgod Рік тому

      @@aralornwolf3140 I'm sure YOU found some that has escaped the purge.

  • @RocketSurgn_
    @RocketSurgn_ Рік тому +193

    I think a core part of Ben’s problem here is just conservatism itself. It doesn’t allow for nuance, or alternate views that could be valid so trying something new or different is (as the video says) aberration and degeneracy. It’s a really sadly limited perspective.

    • @chandleraskew6496
      @chandleraskew6496 Рік тому +6

      Could you not say the same thing for liberalism also? The way media goes today if you go against liberal ideals you’re instantly labeled a nazi, homophobic, bigot, or just terrible person. For example I don’t like the Witcher tv show because I’m a massive fan of the books. But me speaking out against it I get told I just don’t like strong female leads

    • @Katie-xd1nt
      @Katie-xd1nt Рік тому +33

      @@chandleraskew6496 nice strawman, im a leftist and i hate that show too

    • @RocketSurgn_
      @RocketSurgn_ Рік тому

      @@chandleraskew6496 The things that get you labeled a nazi/homophobic etc are generally.. wanting to take away rights from others, dismissing the struggles of others, punching down, having a problem with everyone not being white and straight etc. So, being fascistic, homophobic or racist. There are always some that throw around extreme language without much thought but the general “left doesn’t like me” is in no way the same. The whole philosophy of conservatism disdains empathy for anyone that isn’t directly connected to you and that’s a pretty hateful, pitiable way to live.

    • @RocketSurgn_
      @RocketSurgn_ Рік тому +7

      I have to wonder what your criticisms of the show are if people take you to be against strong female leads. Shows will never be identical to the books they are based on, both because visual/shorter form media _has_ to be different to work, but also because show runners are making their own work not some carbon copy and will always bring some of their own interpretations and world view to it. Even in reading 2 people come away with different things mattering. That’s another part of conservatism… some idealized unchangeable “right way” to do something and anything however superficial or aesthetic that changes it must make it worse. White character now brown? Must be bad not just that it wasn’t important to the story as being told in this format and people seeing someone that looks like the community they live in helps connect new audiences (or was just the best actor for the part).

    • @Katie-xd1nt
      @Katie-xd1nt Рік тому +13

      @@RocketSurgn_ My gripes with the show is more that like alot of adaptations, netflix gave the show to people who have a disdain for the source material and wish to tell their own story with the basic premise. look at the sonic movies or detective pikachu! i prefer movies made with a love for the source material

  • @situpeutparlemoi
    @situpeutparlemoi Рік тому +42

    That I fell asleep near the beginning, woke up for the last third, and still understood it more than Ben Shapiro is an unexpected small accomplishment.
    Not that being smarter than Ben Shapiro is a high bar.

  • @donovanwiebe2495
    @donovanwiebe2495 Рік тому +102

    "Elon Musk: the real life, uh, person"
    So true

  • @tigrisparvus2970
    @tigrisparvus2970 Рік тому +112

    I would say it's not exactly subtle that Miles is an idiot using money to cover his lack of other skills. I think most people picked up on that fairly early on.
    It was mentioned by Rian that he wasn't thinking of Musk because focusing on one specific guy meant the message got a bit lost, so it was just life imitating art that he showed his true colours after the film was written.

    • @darbyburbidge8976
      @darbyburbidge8976 Рік тому +2

      That was the biggest reason I wasn't as much of a fan of Glass Onion as the original Knives Out. I'm also not a huge whodunit fan, I mostly watched it because I thought Knives Out was really enjoyable, so while I enjoyed the movie, a lot of the plays on tropes were a bit lost on me, and the conclusion seemed a bit flat. I felt like I was waiting for the movie to convince me it was someone else, and then it just didn't. There were definitely things I missed until the explanation, so I still enjoyed it, but I don't plan on watching it again.

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Рік тому +28

      @@darbyburbidge8976While I also like Knives Out better, I’d argue that Glass Onion has better rewatch value - All the clues are truly obvious, hiding in plain sight - but we didn’t notice them the first time around because we were distracted or expected more. It really as simple as Benoit Blanc explained. The movie is a glass onion, just as the dumb billionaires in the movie and irl are also glass onions. It works on so many levels.
      But if you want a Murder on the Orient Express type of mystery, I understand why you’d be underwhelmed. Knives Out was not a conventional whodunnit either by revealing the suicide early on. Rain Johnson pays tribute to the Agatha Christie formula, but these movies subvert the genre tropes very much in his style.

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Рік тому +22

      Miles at one point wore the turtle neck + jeans combo, holding up the napkin. That was clearly a dig at Steve Jobs and Elizabeth Holmes. Ben saw Musk because he is topical and infamous for taking credits for other people’s work, but the character is an amalgamation of the entire group of techno billionaires.

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Рік тому +4

      @@mhawang8204 I assumed that was meant for it to make it look like Bron thinks he is Steve Jobs. Edward Norton himself described Bron as someone "who has never had an original thought in his life"
      The whole reason Eizabeth Holmes was doing the whole turtleneck thing was because she was trying to imitate him

    • @OdinsSage
      @OdinsSage Рік тому +5

      The fact that Ben saw Musk in Miles' depiction says a lot more about Ben than it does about the film writers and directors.

  • @aspen1889
    @aspen1889 Рік тому +78

    "We're actively deceived by the writer" someone needs to circle in big red the word mystery in the films title for him

  • @samuelniles3348
    @samuelniles3348 Рік тому +18

    “If you’ve got an idea that a film’s trying to say something, but that idea doesn’t line up with the film itself, it generally makes sense to at least consider the possibility that the film is fine and your take is bad.”
    Marry me.

  • @sagejennings4342
    @sagejennings4342 Рік тому +29

    Also - just the fact that he was so personally offended that he took the time to write this on Twitter is hilarious to me

    • @sandrafaith
      @sandrafaith Рік тому +4

      And not just ONE tweet, but a whole-ass THREAD!

  • @silversam
    @silversam Рік тому +62

    Human: (pretends to throw a ball)
    Dog: I have been deceived by the writer
    As a recovering stupid person I can confirm that this movie is in some way also about Ben

    • @MonstrousEthicist
      @MonstrousEthicist Рік тому +13

      This metaphor is flawed because I like dogs, and want to take their side even when they don’t get it. BTW, I am obliged to ask you to stop deceiving your fictitious dog, he’s a good boy and deserves to not be bamboozled.

    • @silversam
      @silversam Рік тому +3

      @@MonstrousEthicist appreciated. Also she's not my dog and is only fooled once 😎

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 Рік тому

      @@silversam lmao damn

    • @ninakrishnamurthy6674
      @ninakrishnamurthy6674 12 днів тому

      I literally spit out my drink laughing at this comment. You win the Internet!

  • @tinamardt7734
    @tinamardt7734 Рік тому +37

    The actual trope was the book stopping the bullet. Without that Miles would have completely been able to get away by accusing Whiskey of killing Helen… in case Duke told her. I really enjoyed it, and totally agree with your analysis. Just think it’s even funnier that the issue of the book in the pocket to stop a bullet wasn’t taken as Shapiro third point LOL

  • @GeahkBurchill
    @GeahkBurchill Рік тому +56

    Ben has a TRUE ALLEGIANCE to being a witless writer

  • @placeholderfornowokay
    @placeholderfornowokay Рік тому +60

    "a rarer, more advanced stupid." thats going in the quote book

  • @Tymbus
    @Tymbus Рік тому +13

    The hilarious thing is that one twist harks back to Edgar Allen Poe's detective stories that founded the genre. The story is "the Purloined letter" and the twist is where the original napkin is hidden

  • @MattAndImprov
    @MattAndImprov Рік тому +7

    Ben Shapiro wants to know what "Rosebud" means before he'll watch the rest of Citizen Kane.

  • @ghostdiaper5927
    @ghostdiaper5927 Рік тому +39

    I'm sure Ben felt attacked by the "rich doesn't equal smart" message.

    • @WhatisReal11
      @WhatisReal11 Рік тому

      I don't like Isreal... and ben is annoying. But to call ben not smart, is just a cope

    • @tink6225
      @tink6225 Рік тому +7

      @@WhatisReal11 sure love

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy Місяць тому

      @@WhatisReal11 Aquaman

  • @izzyisme7451
    @izzyisme7451 Рік тому +102

    Yeah. I didnt read his twt thread, but dude?
    As a Malaysian, i just wanna say "get my country's name out of your mouth!!!"
    I feel dirty seeing my country's name being mentioned by BS...yuck
    Also, i guess BS have never watched a WhoDunIt genre movie before? 70% of the fun is trying to figure out the clues n who the murderer is by yourself, 10% of "dang, i should've noticed that" n the other 20% is going "i knew it! That (clue) was so obvious" when the mistery gets unveiled in the end

    • @MonstrousEthicist
      @MonstrousEthicist Рік тому +7

      See, that’s the problem. 10% makes him ashamed instead of delighted, 20% makes him angry instead of vindicated, and this gives him anxiety about the other 70%.

    • @coolerdude42
      @coolerdude42 Рік тому +1

      I think BS was half rewatching Zoolander if he can mistake Bangladesh for Malaysia

    • @tink6225
      @tink6225 Рік тому +1

      ironically, Malaysia was the wrong country. he just said another random Asian country when the country he was thinking of is bangladesh, proving the first knives out right about the ignorance of Americans seeing other races as a huge monolith

    • @BigMoney398
      @BigMoney398 Рік тому

      @@tink6225 Malaysians and Bangladeshis aren't the same race.

    • @tink6225
      @tink6225 Рік тому

      @@BigMoney398 both Asian countries

  • @TSDTalks22
    @TSDTalks22 Рік тому +65

    Ben Shapiro when a whodunnit movie has a plot twist 🤯🤯🤯

  • @krishp1104
    @krishp1104 Рік тому +44

    This movie's thesis is that the common man looks up to millionaires, celebrities, and those in power have their idiocy excused because we assume their power/fame must surely mean they have some genius we don't. Ironically, this applies to Ben because he takes his first thoughts on the film as the absolute truth and the that the film was nothing compared to his genius. No, in reality he's just an idiot and we assume his fame gives him some credibility but, no, not really

    • @mackenziedavis5280
      @mackenziedavis5280 Рік тому +3

      I saw that thread in the film too, but mostly I got the impression that the film was less anti-billionaire, anti-capitalist, and more so a commentary on how power corrupts. Miles took someone else’s idea and then murdered her when she threatened to ruin his success. He blackmailed all his friends into preventing Andi from doing this and still expected them to be on his side, when in reality they covertly hate him and feel guilty for betraying Andi. Yes, the film makes an exaggeration about Miles’ wealth and puts an admiring eye on the fruits of his so-called genius, but the movie is not trying to tell us that all rich geniuses are really thieves who blackmail their friends and employees to maintain their power and life of luxury. Rather, we’re supposed to hate him for what he did to Andi and realize that people deserve to be successful when they put in the work honestly and humbly. Miles was the antithesis of that. That’s why he was the antagonist.

  • @strawberrana
    @strawberrana Рік тому +18

    He hates it because he's literally just a combination of the worst parts of Miles, Claire, and Duke

    • @WhatisReal11
      @WhatisReal11 Рік тому

      You prove his points with this comment, you realize that? oxymorons

    • @strawberrana
      @strawberrana Рік тому +7

      @@WhatisReal11 What part of what I said is an oxymoron?

  • @PillarofGarbage
    @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +53

    NEW GLASS ONION VIDEO: ua-cam.com/video/OU2bOtm0XUI/v-deo.html

    • @kylevernon
      @kylevernon Рік тому

      This video is shit and he perfectly understood it. He just dislikes the quality of the writing and the straw-man worldview this movie portrays.
      We’re not sorry that we don’t agree with your straw man.

  • @woongah
    @woongah Рік тому +9

    This reminds me, years ago, when I saw Fargo at the movies.
    Going back to my loyal rust-nucket, I felt that the movie message was a bit on the nose.
    The characters that only care about money are all dead by the end, the ones that don't keep living their life of modest happiness. Noy very subtle, for me.
    As I was opening the door, a couple of ladies passed me by while discussing how "Fargo" made NO SENSE, then climbed in their brand new Range Rover and drove away.
    The power of points of view.

  • @creativepseudonym9872
    @creativepseudonym9872 Рік тому +12

    Ben not understanding something, then getting mad at said thing and complaining about it, is pretty on-brand for him.

  • @alexandrac6177
    @alexandrac6177 Рік тому +10

    This is entirely too charitable a read on Ben Shapiro. He didn’t go in and get upset at the plot devices and tropes being turned on their head. He perceived an attack on his politics and those with whom he identifies and retroactively through a hissy fit over the film. Since the film was plainly great, and he can’t attack the politics without giving away his fragility, he makes a weak play at the innovations in the plot rather than any real critique.

  • @NikkiLayne
    @NikkiLayne Рік тому +26

    Commenting so YT will know that I like to Laugh at Silly Men.

  • @HakuYuki001
    @HakuYuki001 Рік тому +9

    Let’s never forget that Ben is what conservatives think is a smart man.

    • @zoso73
      @zoso73 Рік тому

      Well, liberals are literally afraid to debate him. You seem to be an exception.

    • @HakuYuki001
      @HakuYuki001 Рік тому +6

      @@zoso73 Ben doesn’t debate though. He does Q&As where he speaks over anyone who disagrees with him and actively misinterprets what that say whilst using the audience’s applause to shut down any follow up.

    • @zoso73
      @zoso73 Рік тому

      @user-us5id4pn4h I've never seen him speak over anyone. He listens, and then he torches his leftist opponent with irrefutable facts. Straightforward formula.

    • @SilverfireDarkworksChronicles
      @SilverfireDarkworksChronicles 11 місяців тому

      @@zoso73 Liberals aren’t afraid to debate him. There just isn’t a debate. The moment a Liberal does try to debate, Ben Shapiro seeks to humiliate, ensuring that at least the Liberal loses. There is no debate, just crowd manipulation using “Smart” Sounding words and interruption.

  • @ZakaZ1996
    @ZakaZ1996 Рік тому +5

    "How many rockets has Rain Johnson launched"
    Idk, how many films have YOU written in your brief career, Benny?

  • @lucasas8002
    @lucasas8002 Рік тому +26

    Ben is the type of guy who would listen to motivational podcasts of Miles

  • @joaquinceriani5033
    @joaquinceriani5033 Рік тому +11

    A lot of this can be disproven by just rewatching the film, even the first take of Helen breaking the box seems so off from the life of a rich person (granted they took away the money, but even then) I was like "Oh? Wrong person or do they hate Miles?", I gasped when we got to the realization both were true

  • @arfhat89
    @arfhat89 Рік тому +9

    Is it me or did anyone else see Miles as a parody of Steve Jobs instead of Elon Musk. Miles even had the hippie haircut and black turtleneck in the flashback. Makes sense since Miles is someone good with a way of words even making fake words to persuade people but hasn’t done the hands on work which reflects the Jobs and Wozniak relationship with Andi being Wozniak.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +3

      Good spot - definitely a scoop of Steve Jobs in there, along with Musk and Zuckerberg.

  • @bitterismylastname6688
    @bitterismylastname6688 Рік тому +63

    Ben really threw a fit coz he got outsmarted by the plot lol

  • @MrBrothasky
    @MrBrothasky Рік тому +39

    Hm. I reckon this is the reason he didn't make it as a screenwriter.

  • @paulaguevara6214
    @paulaguevara6214 Рік тому +9

    he didn’t get because glass onion is a critic of the people he admires and defends, he’s not gonna give in and admit the faults of those who are in power because that’s the people who keep him on board

  • @carpevinum8645
    @carpevinum8645 Рік тому +16

    Did Shapiro comment on knives out?
    Rian Johnson reworked the structure of that film too. We had, what we are being led to believe, is the guilty party's confession very early. Him reworking the typical genre structure to make a point in this movie should have been more expected than it was with Knives Out. Ryan Johnson used a lot of approaches/manipulations/ideas from the first movie applied in a new way to explore this film's specific idealogical focus.
    Nuance is a thing. This is beautiful use of pre conception and subversion that can only be implemented by someone, not just competent, but with a deep understanding and grasp of the medium.

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl Рік тому +89

    Ben Shapiro doesn't understand anything.

    • @camipco
      @camipco Рік тому +3

      He understands how to make people even worse than him think he is real smart so they will pay him money. Apparently.

    • @J-manli
      @J-manli Рік тому +2

      @@camipco
      He is a “dumb person’s idea of being smart” he talks fast and keeps up a professional appearance, and always possesses a condescending tone to anyone he seems dumber.

  • @southparkking2
    @southparkking2 Рік тому +22

    Ben Shapiro is his own glass onion.

  • @alastorcorvus
    @alastorcorvus Рік тому +4

    "a rare, more advanced stupid"
    -Pillar of Garbage, 2022
    Subscribed

  • @Ronnet
    @Ronnet Рік тому +8

    Lets say Shapiro is correct and Miles was just written as a criticism to Musk. The script was written before the Twitter meltdown that showed that Elon isn't a mad genius but just out of his mind. So Johnson wouldve been spot on about that. So what's wrong with being right about a real life prick?

  • @olhix7272
    @olhix7272 Рік тому +72

    Ben Shapiro talking about caricatured characters while being a parody himself, is the art we all failed to see 😂

  • @UltraSuperGamer
    @UltraSuperGamer Рік тому +16

    The even bigger irony is that the people who think they’re smart and right all the time, like Ben, are also the ones who are MOST captivated by the Glass Onion of Bron/Musk types. They never stop to think they might be misled, because they would mean they made a mistake…

  • @TheFreakDownStreet
    @TheFreakDownStreet Рік тому +38

    Hearing Ben tweeted about this movie negatively got me interested. Seeing this video in my subscription feed got me to watch the movie. Thanks PoG. Also, I’ve read Ben’s book, and if there was ever a word to describe his writing it would be formulaic. That or trash.

  • @randomations11
    @randomations11 Рік тому +28

    Ben wanting to be a screenwriter is funny by itself. Once you read his short stories and novels, it's actually hilarious.

    • @vedantbhard
      @vedantbhard 7 місяців тому +2

      having seen this recently, i personally find ben shapiro to be a really inspirational figure in my own creative pursuits, because no matter how hard i try, i can still never be as bad at writing as him.

  • @DaveRyanMcNeely
    @DaveRyanMcNeely Рік тому +40

    Is Ben old enough to get the Magnolia reference? Miles showing up in the flashback in Frank TJ Mackey cosplay (the original MRA?) was just a perfect Rian Johnson moment - the tiniest thing that spoke volumes about who this character is.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +17

      unfortunately it seems I was not old enough to get the Magnolia reference either haha

    • @clarerichardson8770
      @clarerichardson8770 Рік тому +4

      oh damn, I've seen Magnolia and that went right over my head! I still found that it spoke volumes about the character to me, but I didn't draw a comparison!

    • @Brakdayton
      @Brakdayton Рік тому +2

      I thought I recognised that look! Good catch.

    • @elkpapa
      @elkpapa Рік тому

      AHHHH thank you! I was trying to remember why that looked so familiar!

  • @iuhjg4tsx
    @iuhjg4tsx Рік тому +57

    What a gem of a video to pop up in my reccommendations! Love the structured call out of just what exactly Ben got wrong and a breakdown of why this movie works so well.

  • @Kasey_Barkle
    @Kasey_Barkle Рік тому +11

    Dear Ben,
    Glass Onion is a moving picture under the genre of murder-mystery. Typically, the detective will attempt to uncover the murderer. I hope this helps.

    • @shlockofgod
      @shlockofgod Рік тому

      I liked it when they went to the casino planet. Like, capitalism is bad. Elon Musk and shit. Get it?

    • @Ariceres
      @Ariceres Рік тому +2

      @@shlockofgod Mate, the casino planet is from Star Wars. This guy is criticizing Ben Shapiro, not capitalism.

  • @flowerpower250
    @flowerpower250 Рік тому +6

    This reminds me of Logan Paul’s take on Nope and how he missed that the entire film made a warning out of people who will do anything to capitalize on spectacle…people like him

  • @PillarofGarbage
    @PillarofGarbage  Рік тому +57

    help support videos like these and I can keep Laughing at Silly Men: www.patreon.com/pillarofgarbage

  • @seresimarta4436
    @seresimarta4436 Рік тому +4

    The funny thing is that it is a very classical Agatha Christie storyline. Nothing new. And as someone who read all the Christie books several times, I knew who the murderer was when "Andy" was shot. This is a classic Chhristie trick: you learn something, it's always repeated (like "X hates Y" or "Y is madly in love with Z and would do anything to get them back") and finally you realise it's just not true. Glass Onion reminds me very much of Towards Zero from this respect.

  • @kiratherenegade1561
    @kiratherenegade1561 Рік тому +3

    Ben misunderstands this movie because Ben is 1 of those 'disruptors' that actually rely on others to figure it out for him, then regurgitates it for the masses.
    He's a puppet. And he's upset that people have caught on.

  • @_JayRamsey_
    @_JayRamsey_ Рік тому +8

    Mr. Shapiro showing us exactly why he couldn't make it as a screenwriter, even with his parents' help.

  • @flapackfez
    @flapackfez Рік тому +26

    Honestly surprised that Ben Shapiro actually 'criticised' a film without mentioning Wokeness or anything

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Рік тому +1

      He probably went into the movie preparing to hate it for wokeness, and then tried to blame it on “bad writing” and still ended up looking dumb. I’ve noticed a lot of bad-faith media criticism from conservatives just use “bad writing” as a catch-all, especially when POC is in the cast.

    • @swanchamp5136
      @swanchamp5136 Рік тому +2

      He wouldn't be able to without admitting the film is parodying people like him and his kind. Dukes character is very much like Alex Jones, Peterson and Tate rolled into one, or Birdie being like those influencers who speak without thinking first thinking that makes up for how stupid they really are.

  • @crestren5996
    @crestren5996 Рік тому +8

    Its always funny to remember Ben didnt make it as a screenwriter and this is a reminder WHY he didnt.

  • @Flumong
    @Flumong Рік тому +1

    Happy to have found your content, Pillar.

  • @seanfaherty
    @seanfaherty Рік тому +3

    I think the premise of a character who is thought to be intelligent but is actually an idiot hits a little too close to home for Mr Shapiro

  • @danielwalker8133
    @danielwalker8133 Рік тому +10

    What a surprise, the underwater real estate agent doesn't know what he's talking about

  • @bridgerhibbert2993
    @bridgerhibbert2993 Рік тому +27

    Sounds to me like Ben is reacting to the idea of someone placing someone popular under scrutiny and taking them for what they are, not what they project themselves as.

  • @Knightowl1980
    @Knightowl1980 Рік тому +8

    The simplicity is really just that the film criticizes him and his audience and the conservative brand of being hyperbolic for success and money without intellect

    • @Knightowl1980
      @Knightowl1980 Рік тому

      The film lays itself out in the dialogue in the beginning with the box, it starts out as one thing and then flips and turns on itself to become something else. And of course I have the line of misconceiving speaking without thought as truth. It’s calling Shapiro out and he knows it

  • @RaptieFeathers
    @RaptieFeathers Рік тому +3

    The other thing I love about a glass onion is that once you know the obvious (there's nothing at the center), one can examine and marvel the way the layers are done, catching new bits as one turns the onion all around

  • @agroteraaaa
    @agroteraaaa Рік тому +12

    ben would be shocked and offended by a toaster popping up.

  • @michaelrigg3623
    @michaelrigg3623 Рік тому +25

    To be VERY fair to Ben, if you frequently pause the movie while streaming, like I did, any time Miles opens his mouth to say something vapid, it can take over an hour to get to the actual mystery.
    Miles: Inbreatheate.
    Me: Pause and take a shot. This is going to be a wild butchering of Language.

    • @ConductiveFoam
      @ConductiveFoam Рік тому +3

      The predefinite detective Benoit Blanc
      Just chef's kiss

    • @MonstrousEthicist
      @MonstrousEthicist Рік тому +3

      How would Ben Shapiro know if someone said something vapid?

  • @emilyrln
    @emilyrln Рік тому +7

    How dare a mystery be twisty and unexpected?! 😂

  • @seancorrigan5875
    @seancorrigan5875 Рік тому +2

    3:32 I find it funny how he compares Rian and Elon by how many rockets they have launched. That's like comparing a cardiologist's and a dermatologist's records by how many melanoma they've diagnosed

  • @leeswift7883
    @leeswift7883 Рік тому +24

    You mean to tell me that someone that constantly speaks in logical fallacies that are easier to poke holes through than Swiss cheese doesn't understand a somewhat complex movie plot? And in typical fashion anything these types of people don't know or understand they have to lash out against it
    Also the ratio of likes to views on his tweets is laughable