I have a 2009 Vibe with the 1.8 engine. On truly cold starts (like the car has sat overnight) the car will start right up - no problems. If it has only been sitting an hour or two though, the car will struggle to start. I don't have to keep cranking, but it will stumble and falter until it really catches, and then will smooth out and behave normally. During that stumble and struggle I will hear the VVTI gear rattle just very briefly. On normal starts I do not hear it at all. Possible suspects: 1) dirty throttle body 2) Mass Air Filter sensor 3) fuel pump 4) VVTI gear 5) Spark plugs / coils 6) clogged fuel injectors. Any other ideas? I'd appreciate anyone's opinion and advice on how to diagnose for certain.
Use a piece of rubber fuel line hose to get spark plugs out just push and twist a bit and pull it out. Also use it to thread it in by hand before using a ratchet.
What’s the size of the spark plug socket. I notice 5/8 is very close but actually a bit too big. 16mm maybe???? Was trying to buy a magnetic one but they o to have the 5/8. Ditto the rubber lined one.
Always use the proper spark plug socket with rubber/foam to hold the spark plug inside the socket because it's very easy to bend the electrode and inadvertently change the spark plug gap. Don't risk having the plug fall out of the socket! Also it's 100x easier to get the threads started with the proper socket. Don't just use a deep 16mm socket without the foam insulator.
Piece of rubber fuel hose good to start the plugs in (foot or so .CHEERS from Westcoast Canada! P.S. If those plugs last 170,000 miles then $7.00 is not expensive!
Your idle doesn't seem right. Its around 500rpm which will make it run rough at idle. Do Idle Relearn procedure to relearn the idle and it will run much smoother around 850rpm as it should
Those iridium plugs are easily $20+ a piece here in NZ, equivalent US$14-15 each. My '02 Corolla manual calls for regular plugs, so that's what I use. They still apparently last 40,000K or something. I've read it can be worthwhile using longer lasting ones on cars with difficult to reach plugs - saves you dismantling things to change them as often. Makes sense. But any extra horsepower is just marketing rubbish.
Just FYI I used anti-seize copper for years with my turbo builds and aluminum heads due to heat but I did get sponsored by ngk and yes they are made and designed to NOT use anti-seize per them to me so I stopped but like I said I did for years and I would go through plugs every race lol
I have 06 matrix new coils denso .new spark plugs . no check engine on. Clean throddle body and sensor. New air filter.. Still shakeing .. Any advise my friend???
Check the engine mounts. That's what it was on this car I'm working on in the video. I have a video somewhere on my channel about how to check if the mounts are good or bad. Good luck!
Hmm, it could be a problem with the valve train. Maybe the camshaft has a worn lobe or a lifter or valve could be stuck open. It could be a low compression issue on one or more of the cylinders. I'd start with a compression test, that should tell you how much internal wear there is on the engine. It could also be a vacuum leak. I've heard leaking intake gaskets on this car can cause vibrations. It could be fuel related, fuel filter/pump/injectors. Unfortunately it could be any number of things causing it. When I'm in that situation I start with the cheapest part (fuel filter) and work my way up.
Just got done putting in a new intake manifold gasket in my 06 matrix , it was idle ing pretty rough but after I changed the gasket and put everything back together , started her up and she ran a bit rougher and died durning low idle , I suspect it could be the plugs could be fouled , cause it was running lean for a bit ...
These cars have to relearn to idle after you disconnect the battery or work on a system like the intake. You might just want to drive it around a bit and see if it straightens out. Good luck!
@@TheHandsOnChannel what would you recommend if you've changed the spark plugs checked the throttle body and checked the intake sensor but it still idles a little low even after resetting it
09 vibe. Changed ignition coil 1- it ran better but one day later it seems like its idling rough at stop lights!!!! Initially garage was charging just under $400. I just bought the coil for $120. Im done, im angry and i hate vehichle issues. Fak🤬😢😢😭😢😭😭😭😭🤯😭😭 park it and walk
You might need to clean the throttle body. I cleaned this one and it did help a little. In the end though I found out the vibration was coming from a broken motor mount. I made videos on all of the above. Good luck!
I changed my plugs and set them to manufacturer spacing,changed one ignition coil,still have a rough idle at start up after the night at 1200 RPM’s till it gets warm,what should I check now? Please help!
You might try cleaning the throttle body. Also check the rear lower engine mount. Believe it or not that was the cause of vibration on the car in this video. Good luck.
You could also look into cleaning the MAF (mass air flow) sensor, very easy to do, lots of videos on youtube on the procedure. You can purchase MAF sensor cleaner at an automotive shop, which can also be used to clean the throttle body as well.
Rock auto parts are not good parts. Try getting in touch with them later after you have a problem with their crap. You can’t even call them. Email only. That’s Bull shit.
Fyi yes they are made from the same metal as the iron man suit . so you know your buying and getting, stark quality spark .
Lmaooo omg
Would have been interesting to hear it running rough before and after.
Mine has over 700,000 I love this car man lmaooo
Wow really??? That’s freakin awesome
Must be an automatic
Are you serious?? What work did you have to do with it?
Are you serious?? What work did you have to do with it?
I have a 2009 Vibe with the 1.8 engine. On truly cold starts (like the car has sat overnight) the car will start right up - no problems. If it has only been sitting an hour or two though, the car will struggle to start. I don't have to keep cranking, but it will stumble and falter until it really catches, and then will smooth out and behave normally. During that stumble and struggle I will hear the VVTI gear rattle just very briefly. On normal starts I do not hear it at all. Possible suspects: 1) dirty throttle body 2) Mass Air Filter sensor 3) fuel pump 4) VVTI gear 5) Spark plugs / coils 6) clogged fuel injectors. Any other ideas?
I'd appreciate anyone's opinion and advice on how to diagnose for certain.
Use a piece of rubber fuel line hose to get spark plugs out just push and twist a bit and pull it out. Also use it to thread it in by hand before using a ratchet.
Great tip! Thank you!
What’s the size of the spark plug socket. I notice 5/8 is very close but actually a bit too big. 16mm maybe???? Was trying to buy a magnetic one but they o to have the 5/8. Ditto the rubber lined one.
Did this help or was it just the engine mounts? Thanks
Always use the proper spark plug socket with rubber/foam to hold the spark plug inside the socket because it's very easy to bend the electrode and inadvertently change the spark plug gap. Don't risk having the plug fall out of the socket! Also it's 100x easier to get the threads started with the proper socket. Don't just use a deep 16mm socket without the foam insulator.
Piece of rubber fuel hose good to start the plugs in (foot or so .CHEERS from Westcoast Canada! P.S. If those plugs last 170,000 miles then $7.00 is not expensive!
Hard to find a 16mm spark plug socket….all the stores have is 5/8 with is very very close but still too big.
Your idle doesn't seem right. Its around 500rpm which will make it run rough at idle.
Do Idle Relearn procedure to relearn the idle and it will run much smoother around 850rpm as it should
How do you do that procedure?
@@KollynJ ua-cam.com/video/mdPYUe4FVAE/v-deo.htmlsi=qiYsBrCiaYlg7k-2
Where did you get the parts?
Those iridium plugs are easily $20+ a piece here in NZ, equivalent US$14-15 each. My '02 Corolla manual calls for regular plugs, so that's what I use. They still apparently last 40,000K or something. I've read it can be worthwhile using longer lasting ones on cars with difficult to reach plugs - saves you dismantling things to change them as often. Makes sense. But any extra horsepower is just marketing rubbish.
Would a bad ignition could be the problem??
Just FYI I used anti-seize copper for years with my turbo builds and aluminum heads due to heat but I did get sponsored by ngk and yes they are made and designed to NOT use anti-seize per them to me so I stopped but like I said I did for years and I would go through plugs every race lol
I have 06 matrix new coils denso .new spark plugs . no check engine on. Clean throddle body and sensor. New air filter.. Still shakeing .. Any advise my friend???
Check the engine mounts. That's what it was on this car I'm working on in the video. I have a video somewhere on my channel about how to check if the mounts are good or bad. Good luck!
I'm sorry I left that out. I have all 4 new mounts aswell
Hmm, it could be a problem with the valve train. Maybe the camshaft has a worn lobe or a lifter or valve could be stuck open. It could be a low compression issue on one or more of the cylinders. I'd start with a compression test, that should tell you how much internal wear there is on the engine. It could also be a vacuum leak. I've heard leaking intake gaskets on this car can cause vibrations. It could be fuel related, fuel filter/pump/injectors. Unfortunately it could be any number of things causing it. When I'm in that situation I start with the cheapest part (fuel filter) and work my way up.
Thank you🙏👍
@@jacintogonzalez7146if you figured out what it was it might save me a lot of time as I try to tackle the same problem
Just got done putting in a new intake manifold gasket in my 06 matrix , it was idle ing pretty rough but after I changed the gasket and put everything back together , started her up and she ran a bit rougher and died durning low idle , I suspect it could be the plugs could be fouled , cause it was running lean for a bit ...
These cars have to relearn to idle after you disconnect the battery or work on a system like the intake. You might just want to drive it around a bit and see if it straightens out. Good luck!
Great video. Should the engine be cold when doing this and are the plugs pre-gapped?
Yes, just so you don't burn yourself and yes they came gaped. Good luck.
The Hands On Channel Thanks so much!
@@rubenreza You're welcome, now go get that car running like it's brand new.
The Hands On Channel You got it! :-)
Do these matrix have an adjustable idle or are they controlled by the computer
Computer.
@@TheHandsOnChannel what would you recommend if you've changed the spark plugs checked the throttle body and checked the intake sensor but it still idles a little low even after resetting it
@@Isaac__.. Disconnect the battery for 10 minutes or so and reconnect it. It should re-learn the idle.
@@TheHandsOnChannel alright thanks
09 vibe. Changed ignition coil 1- it ran better but one day later it seems like its idling rough at stop lights!!!! Initially garage was charging just under $400. I just bought the coil for $120. Im done, im angry and i hate vehichle issues. Fak🤬😢😢😭😢😭😭😭😭🤯😭😭 park it and walk
You might need to clean the throttle body. I cleaned this one and it did help a little. In the end though I found out the vibration was coming from a broken motor mount. I made videos on all of the above. Good luck!
@@TheHandsOnChannel let me guess..the lower one in the back?
@@wooohoo2 the most difficult one, I assume?
Do you have the 1.8 or 2.4?
Thanks for sharing
I changed my plugs and set them to manufacturer spacing,changed one ignition coil,still have a rough idle at start up after the night at 1200 RPM’s till it gets warm,what should I check now? Please help!
You might try cleaning the throttle body. Also check the rear lower engine mount. Believe it or not that was the cause of vibration on the car in this video. Good luck.
You could also look into cleaning the MAF (mass air flow) sensor, very easy to do, lots of videos on youtube on the procedure. You can purchase MAF sensor cleaner at an automotive shop, which can also be used to clean the throttle body as well.
What’d you find out?
Should I want to rock auto $3.05 for a piece
Rock auto parts are not good parts. Try getting in touch with them later after you have a problem with their crap. You can’t even call them. Email only. That’s Bull shit.
NGK 👍👍👍
Anti seize is not recommended and you should check the plugs spark gap before installing.
I've been using it for years on spark plug threads with no problem. To each their own.
I tried the anti seize on my first change out at 120k, they were hard to come out. It is recommended not to used anti seize on all the new plugs.
The spark plugs are expensive because you don't have to change them but every 100,000 miles.
Actually every 120,000 miles. I did mine then and latest at 240k. Up to 250k now and still running great
Should you replace the coils too?
You could if you felt it was needed. If one or more of the coils were bad it would barely be able to run, I would think.
No, Toyota coils would be replaced with aftermarket crap.
Did you ever fix the rough idle issue....? If so what was the problem...?
I think the engine mounts made the biggest improvement, but all of it helped a little.
@@TheHandsOnChannelis a little vibration on these engine just something to live with or did the combination of plugs and mounts take care of it?
@@KollynJ Yes it fixed it and I also cleaned the throttle body.
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Yeah ok, my 09 is doing this. Ugh.
😂 I would never want you to work on my car
LOL the feeling is mutual.