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ei posso fazer um pedido de um vídeo sobre um projeto de tank ,do EET1 OSÓRIO um projeto dos anos 80/90 brasileiro que se tivéssemos concluído seria o adversário do M1A2 ABRAS mais por fatores de compra e escândalos de "sabotagem "e calotes só foi feitas duas unidades de demonstração de suas versões (de:canhão de alma-rajada=120mm e de 105mm.)
It was an informative and wonderful introduction video about infamous French crotale surfaces to air missiles (family), which widely expanded its several versions and multi upgraded in the world..utilize to attacking airplanes ✈️ in law attitude. Thank you 🙏 ( weapon detective 🕵️♂️) channel for sharing.
The White Supremacist regime in South Africa used the Crotale surface to air missile against Angola and Cuban MiGs during their military intervention in the Angolan Civil War.
Over the course of 7 years, the Saudi air defense shot down 850 Houthi drones...many of which were shot down by the Cortal and Shaheen systems, as well as Oerlikon GDF cannons
Only on paper and marketing claim. In Iraq Operation Desert storm, Crotale was the SAM that failed to hit anything just like Mirage F1 with its R530 Matra and R550 Magic missiles failed to hit any US fighters. Whereas Russian made SA-6 was best performer, even old SA-2 had 1 recorded kill. In air to air, only Russian made R-40 had successfully hit US aircraft. French weapons are inferior to Russian & American.
I hadn’t even read the word “crotale” in 35 years, but it always stuck in my mind for some reason from playing Desert Strike as a kid. Today I found out it was an actual weapon system lol
I can still hear them launching over the chop chop chop of the blades. Those and the Rapiers. That game definitely inspired a long lasting love of air defense systems in me haha
@@tanguyroussel4059it has been replaced by Sadral Systems shooting the Mistral short range missile, but on two Lafayette frigates that are still equipped with their original Crotale batteries.
lol you actually said there’s a shoulder mounted variant- ain’t no way someone’s putting this on their shoulder like a javelin/stinger or any other shoulder mounted rockets/missiles.
The original vehicle, as supplied to South Africa, was utterly rubbish on any surface except perfectly flat tarmac or concrete. It got stuck even on mowed grass.
It is a false narrative that drones are such an invincible new threat. Where ever they excel, they do so because they perform a function of some older type of weapon or hardware with less cost and more expendability, not because they are a step into something previously unheard of.
it is so french to cut from the carrier platform end up with an ill proportion. i bet it would be better at the back of any proper sized truck even w/o armor Like Germans, americans and chinese did...
strategic mobility is a thing, and it’s a much more pressing concern for the french than any of those countries (US does it too but everything fits in a C-5 or C-17 and they have dozens of both)
@@DaltonBlack-rz1px France usually fights alone, i highly doubt their action plan is let's buffer up until the U.S comes in... That would be the UK or Germany kind of way. Wtf do you read ?
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This weapon is of no relevance. legacy of old design, limited upgrades, unable to deal missile threats and not supplied to Ukraine in meaningful numbers.
And France has given exactly (edit: all of two!) to Ukraine and only given half as much $ worth of military aid as Lithuania despite an economy 64x bigger w/much of it being the useless AMX. And if you wanna talk about a country with an imperial mindset…
@@CCC-nf3bk Oh, wowee, is it two Crotales now?! Still, doesn’t change the fact that France has given basically jack shit. Sorry, if that fact hurt your feelings.
Lithuania shares the same issue Ukraine does, it has a border with Russia and want to keep them busy elsewhere. France does not and does not have those priorities; they don't have to give anything actually. What connection can you possibly make between all the bs you spout and an imperial mindset ? Then how exactly is it an imperial mindset ?
@@thegto8535 France was saved from Germany by other countries that didn’t share a border. I guess we didn’t owe them anything, right? Germany doesn’t share a border and has given $17.1b (France, meanwhile, $443m). If you need to ask about France’s imperialistic history and attitude, you need to do some very basic history learning. I can’t become a history book for you.
@@adrien8758 most military victories, debatable, but let's not forget two things: 1 Most of your victories are thanks to an italian 2 You only bankrolled america, you didnt fight, if you did fight, america would STILL be a british colony.... in the process of banroling america, your stupid country got bankrupted, America paid you back with interest, and then saved your little uptight a$$es otherwise you would be speaking german now. Additionally, the british returned the favour and bankrolled your idiotic and nasty "French Revolution" All you did got back to bite you in the backside. spend more time learning your own history man and less time philosophing about impractical things.
If you're gonna drop a french surrender joke, at least make it a good one Like : why are there so many tree lines roads in France ? Because the Germans prefer to march in the shade
I have a whole collection of American weapons in the same condition... from the start of the Pacific War, through Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan... and they are all stamped "the most powerful army in the world"....
@@remistiegler5302 6 of his most recent comments = 4 of french bashing and 2 of indian bashing. He’s just an internet coward that never seen a battlefield in his whole life and hate us because his wife prefer some stronger and worthy french 😂. Greetings from a french soldier.
@@remistiegler5302What makes you think he's an American? He's just trying to cause division and you fell for it. Then you attacked an entire country causing even more division between two allies.
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ei posso fazer um pedido de um vídeo sobre um projeto de tank ,do EET1 OSÓRIO um projeto dos anos 80/90 brasileiro que se tivéssemos concluído seria o adversário do M1A2 ABRAS mais por fatores de compra e escândalos de "sabotagem "e calotes só foi feitas duas unidades de demonstração de suas versões (de:canhão de alma-rajada=120mm e de 105mm.)
It was an informative and wonderful introduction video about infamous French crotale surfaces to air missiles (family), which widely expanded its several versions and multi upgraded in the world..utilize to attacking airplanes ✈️ in law attitude. Thank you 🙏 ( weapon detective 🕵️♂️) channel for sharing.
Great overview, alot of new and detailed information!
Thank you for your interesting and accurate video, as always.
and with the 16th century French military music in background: "En passant par la Lorraine avec mes gros sabots". Nice!
Thanks so much for video.
The White Supremacist regime in South Africa used the Crotale surface to air missile against Angola and Cuban MiGs during their military intervention in the Angolan Civil War.
Good video. Thanks
Really interesting material. I was always a great fan of Hotchkis chassis
a great vid mate
Over the course of 7 years, the Saudi air defense shot down 850 Houthi drones...many of which were shot down by the Cortal and Shaheen systems, as well as Oerlikon GDF cannons
Oh, I hated the Crotale playing desert strike. Hits harder than the Rapier and too fast to dodge.
Only on paper and marketing claim. In Iraq Operation Desert storm, Crotale was the SAM that failed to hit anything just like Mirage F1 with its R530 Matra and R550 Magic missiles failed to hit any US fighters. Whereas Russian made SA-6 was best performer, even old SA-2 had 1 recorded kill. In air to air, only Russian made R-40 had successfully hit US aircraft. French weapons are inferior to Russian & American.
France maybe did that intentionally@@jawarakf
You don't know anything.
You're comparing apples to oranges...
@@jawarakfYour lack of knowledge is as hopeless as your opinion.
@@jawarakf Meteor !!!???
Very nice video...
I hadn’t even read the word “crotale” in 35 years, but it always stuck in my mind for some reason from playing Desert Strike as a kid. Today I found out it was an actual weapon system lol
I can still hear them launching over the chop chop chop of the blades. Those and the Rapiers. That game definitely inspired a long lasting love of air defense systems in me haha
العراق مهتم ❤🇮🇶
Is it lancet proof?
French not like Britain relay on own industry
French navy "Marine Nationale" uses the ASTER system now.
The crotale system is still in use on older ships
Yes Aster 15 and Aster 30
@@tanguyroussel4059it has been replaced by Sadral Systems shooting the Mistral short range missile, but on two Lafayette frigates that are still equipped with their original Crotale batteries.
0:48 Tombstone Oombstone
Incorrect, Pakistan hasn't retired crotales, all of them are in service, they are being upgraded infact
Looks like Sean uther proudly old sadf product
lol you actually said there’s a shoulder mounted variant- ain’t no way someone’s putting this on their shoulder like a javelin/stinger or any other shoulder mounted rockets/missiles.
France is a very strong country that has the right forces to confront any aggression but it was found in NATO to be a mistak
no , French army now use ASTER 15 and 30
Still have Crotale NG, they must be replaced by VL MICA.
never what- OUTDATED
So china has this system tech transferred from Thales
Chinese air defense missiles use active phased array radar + vertical launch system
Back in the day it wasn’t Thales but Thomson-CSF. Back then the USA, and other countries as well, also sold military equipment to China.
Копия HQ-17
you forgot canada had the adats
It had land versions too huh.
The original vehicle, as supplied to South Africa, was utterly rubbish on any surface except perfectly flat tarmac or concrete. It got stuck even on mowed grass.
It was quite heavy, because it was an eletric unit basically just for paved ways.
But are they drone proof? 😉
It is a false narrative that drones are such an invincible new threat. Where ever they excel, they do so because they perform a function of some older type of weapon or hardware with less cost and more expendability, not because they are a step into something previously unheard of.
Following experiences in Ukraine, the answer is yes.
Test
it is so french to cut from the carrier platform end up with an ill proportion. i bet it would be better at the back of any proper sized truck even w/o armor Like Germans, americans and chinese did...
"oh no, proportions are off"
Or not ?
strategic mobility is a thing, and it’s a much more pressing concern for the french than any of those countries (US does it too but everything fits in a C-5 or C-17 and they have dozens of both)
@@DaltonBlack-rz1px France usually fights alone, i highly doubt their action plan is let's buffer up until the U.S comes in... That would be the UK or Germany kind of way. Wtf do you read ?
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Скопировали у китая 😂😂😂
This weapon is of no relevance. legacy of old design, limited upgrades, unable to deal missile threats and not supplied to Ukraine in meaningful numbers.
Yeah. Every armor company should have its own Patriot battery...
The ones delivered to Ukraine have proven to b e highly successful in destroying all kinds of aerial threats.
And France has given exactly (edit: all of two!) to Ukraine and only given half as much $ worth of military aid as Lithuania despite an economy 64x bigger w/much of it being the useless AMX. And if you wanna talk about a country with an imperial mindset…
And you have exactly ZERO idea of what you're talking about since France has given two of its Crotale batteries to Ukraine.
@@CCC-nf3bk Oh, wowee, is it two Crotales now?! Still, doesn’t change the fact that France has given basically jack shit. Sorry, if that fact hurt your feelings.
Lithuania shares the same issue Ukraine does, it has a border with Russia and want to keep them busy elsewhere. France does not and does not have those priorities; they don't have to give anything actually.
What connection can you possibly make between all the bs you spout and an imperial mindset ? Then how exactly is it an imperial mindset ?
@@The_ZeroLine you do realise that France has in total 12 crotale batteries do you really think they're gonna give them all ? Just think a little
@@thegto8535 France was saved from Germany by other countries that didn’t share a border. I guess we didn’t owe them anything, right? Germany doesn’t share a border and has given $17.1b (France, meanwhile, $443m).
If you need to ask about France’s imperialistic history and attitude, you need to do some very basic history learning. I can’t become a history book for you.
Do the French use this system to shoot white flags to advancing armies so they can surrender in a quicker and safer manner?
Average Virgin Cringe Brainless Fatherless Anti France Troll Fanboy taking Copium over here ⬆️
France is the country with the most military victories in the world! (And without the intervention of France, you would still be a British colony.)
@@adrien8758 most military victories, debatable, but let's not forget two things:
1 Most of your victories are thanks to an italian
2 You only bankrolled america, you didnt fight, if you did fight, america would STILL be a british colony....
in the process of banroling america, your stupid country got bankrupted, America paid you back with interest, and then saved your little uptight a$$es otherwise you would be speaking german now. Additionally, the british returned the favour and bankrolled your idiotic and nasty "French Revolution"
All you did got back to bite you in the backside. spend more time learning your own history man and less time philosophing about impractical things.
This joke is so 2000's. It's 2024 now.
Grow up dude, you can do it better 👍
@@Flo-pl5mg What joke?
All I know is the great deal on a used French military rifle I got - so cheap , guy said it was never fired and only dropped once !..
If you're gonna drop a french surrender joke, at least make it a good one
Like : why are there so many tree lines roads in France ?
Because the Germans prefer to march in the shade
Old joke. 👍😁😁😁
I have a whole collection of American weapons in the same condition... from the start of the Pacific War, through Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan... and they are all stamped "the most powerful army in the world"....
@@jmbig it's a joke and a bad one at that, ignore it and don't dignify it with outrage.
minuscule ou majuscule dans le slip?
it's true ~all French Tanks have Two forward Gears and seven reverse. ????
Is it true that all Americans are bad at geography ?
@@remistiegler5302 6 of his most recent comments = 4 of french bashing and 2 of indian bashing.
He’s just an internet coward that never seen a battlefield in his whole life and hate us because his wife prefer some stronger and worthy french 😂.
Greetings from a french soldier.
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Indeed since Dunkirk, they have to accommodate for there forever retreating british "allies"
@@remistiegler5302What makes you think he's an American? He's just trying to cause division and you fell for it. Then you attacked an entire country causing even more division between two allies.