I can't thank you enough for sharing this information. Absolutely wonderful. I am such a huge fan of Dr. Phillips and the work he and his team are doing. I am also super happy to learn that my warm cup of milk I have been drinking before bed for most of my life is a good habit to hold on to, especially as I age. Yay!
Been there done that. Dairy is the one thing I have never stopped in my 78 Years. Protein can be changed to glucose in your liver. Your body can't change glucose or fat to protein.
16:15: Brought to you by the DAIRY association. I'm all for eating (higher percentage of diet) protein but the slant here towards milk is disturbing. Anyone can cherry pick studies for their SPONSORS to get the results they desire. Good speaker, wish he didn't have a dog in the fight.
So what? He doesn't hide that fact, unlike the hundreds of researchers not mentioning their support by the grain industry, or that they are vegan/vegetarian. He took the money and did good research with it. The question is, would the dairy industry and the professor have hidden the results if they were negative.
15:47 with the mention of calcium and D, I highly recommend doing more research concerning the VAST importance of vitamin K2, which is probably the most important of all the fat soluble vitamins. Without this super vitamin (as well as D3), calcium cannot even be metabolized properly. This science is something that has not become widely known but needs to be made known worldwide because the majority of people are highly deficient in the critical vitamin. Some of the best info out there is through Kate Rheaume Bleue who has also written a book called "Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox.
Another guy with an obsession with Vitamin K. The only time it's used in medicine is in clotting disorders www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/38599Pvitamink.pdf
with all due respect...I think that the latest science on muscle loss while fasting or just dieting to lose weight is that it is much less than previously thought and that is being suggested here by Dr Philips who is an admirable man and a good scientist.
If anything, it's worse, not better. My first major weight loss effort resulted in the inability to do one pull up. What a shock! Since then, with every weight loss need, I keep the protein up and I do fine on the machines.
If you eat the amount of carbohydrates recommended you will never get your insulin levels low enough to burn fat and lose weight. You will be constantly hungry and storing fat. There are no essential carbohydrates. Your liver makes all the glucose you need for normal blood sugar. Yes, dont be afraid of protein but also do not be afraid of fat. Animal fats, olive oil, avocado and coconut oil are good. So called vegetable oils are very bad. Only carbs I eat are incidental with the non starchy veggies I eat. I am 63 and have been eating this way mostly for 23 years since diagnosed with type 2 diabetes.
Again and again, when it comes to diet and nutrition, myths (dogma not supported by evidence) get established that become impossible to dislodge. How can this be?
I just searched the protein content of the raw milk provolone I usually eat for lunch. 4oz has 29grams of protein all the BCAA in perfect amounts plus vitamin a, d, k, and minerals galore. Costs like $2. Plus I eat one or two HB eggs and some Genoa sausage. Boom! Perfect after my weightlifting! Long live Stu Phillips!
Sorry to be so off topic but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid forgot my account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!
@Sonny Daniel I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
the interesting thing now is, how is this knowledge transferable into a ketogenic diet? or do the ketones an additional job protecting muscle so that a higher protein intake does not add anything to a ketogenic diet, or maybe it adds some advantages but not that much? for me milk is not helping with weight loss. it is quite the opposite. the high insulin response of milk messes with my ketogenic diet. when i cut out milk but still have at least 70g of animal protein i have a good success with weightloss. so now i get my protein from eggs, beef and pork and sometimes from chicken and salmon. thank you for that presentation. one of the coolest dudes of all scientists :-)
A ketogenic diet averages about 50g of "net carbs" per day and some eat less. When one consumes carbs at this low level, Stuart is saying that eating high protein does not cause the same insulinogenic spike as if one was eating high carbs and increased protein. So this is very good for ketosis and protecting lean muscle especially when one gets older. I'm a male, 52 year old averaging about 2250 calories per day (moderately active resistance training). Here is an example of my current "macro split" to stay low carb and in ketosis. TDEE 2500 calories Protein (45% of daily calories) 253g - 1012c Carbs (15% of daily calories) 84g - 337c Fat (40% of daily calories) 90g - 900c BTW, my carbs are limited to low glycemic/high fiber beans and vegetables like salad. I eat them with meat and fat and have very slight blood sugar elevation if spread out through the day. Just eat about 100g of beans a couple time a day with the other food. I check my ketones and blood sugars often. I'm always in ketosis and even after eating the beans. Also beans have a good bit of protein and fiber, which I think are an optimal source of carbs on ketogenic diet. At least for me it works. So, for low carb keto, the higher protein works great. Some eat more fat than I do. In fact, I was on the carnivore diet for 6 months and I was eating about 70% fat but it increased my LDL score to over 650! My cardiologist told me I should probably try going from carnivore diet to "ecoatkins" so I adjusted by increasing protein and adding the beans but the keto diet is really a balancing act between protein and fat because carbs are set low.
Dan, you were able to stay in ketosis with such high protein intake? I'm not a ketosis expert by any means. I think most people do it because they had a friend who tried it...not precise and measured like it seems you are. Obviously if your testing the amount you're eating isn't causing you to come out of ketosis so that's great.
why not juuust anooother type of protein instead of DAIRY?! seems like there is no bias at all.... Yeah sure, probably the only takeaway is high protein diet when looking for weight loss
I'm lost as to how when TWO variables were changed for the last group, both amount of protein AND amount of dairy, he can specifically attribute the increased benefits to the dairy and NOT the protein???? Seems a rookie mistake to me.
If evidence-based medicine where like real evidence (as in a court of law), you would have to report exculpatory evidence, the data that show that it is carbohydrate that is the most important nutrient for weight loss. The presentation provides important points but would not be admissible to support the proposed idea. (At high carbohydrate, protein is most important for satiety but that’s different). On exculpatory evidence, courts have ruled that you cannot even look away. The comparison study of the athletes must be compared to Volek’s studies where you don’t have to go to extremely low energy. I wouldn’t tar anybody with any brushes but if low-carbohydrate (not necessarily ketogenic) diets were included, the funding would disappear. And, as the joke goes, meta-analysis is to analysis as metaphysics is to physics.
The figures are an important part of this presentation but they are poorly annotated and many of them are entirely unreadable because abysmally low resolution.
Probably the reason to not indulge on animal protein sources are saturated fats and possibly transfats when cooking meat for example. The AHA has recommended this a long time ago. Alex Leaf has a great article on the details why and even some guys such as Layne Norton or the guys at Barbell Medicine who are real medical doctors and athletes themselfes recommend to keep saturated fats low or at least mention studies that found differences. Especially since protein quality can be increased when combining foods and even if the quality is not absolutely the best replacing carbohydrates by protein seems like a viable option to increase total protein consumption and therefore lessening the need of quality.
Very small sample you checked for dairy and that test is not reliable at all. Dairy usually depletes calcium. Milk is a disaster. Stop furthering industrial agenda. Makes a pimp not a doctor.
“Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.” Genesis 1:29 DENY YOURSELF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT
Not many people can figure out why fruit has fructose that can overload the liver and can harm the body, and nuts may have omega-6 that may lead to inflammation. It is in The Bible when one can comprehend.
I wanted to give this presentation 27 thumbs up but I am only allowed 1. Thank you, thank you.
I can't thank you enough for sharing this information. Absolutely wonderful. I am such a huge fan of Dr. Phillips and the work he and his team are doing. I am also super happy to learn that my warm cup of milk I have been drinking before bed for most of my life is a good habit to hold on to, especially as I age. Yay!
Been there done that. Dairy is the one thing I have never stopped in my 78 Years. Protein can be changed to glucose in your liver. Your body can't change glucose or fat to protein.
It can if you are a BEAR!
@@spaceghost8995 Wow, I did not know that.
16:15: Brought to you by the DAIRY association. I'm all for eating (higher percentage of diet) protein but the slant here towards milk is disturbing. Anyone can cherry pick studies for their SPONSORS to get the results they desire. Good speaker, wish he didn't have a dog in the fight.
So what? He doesn't hide that fact, unlike the hundreds of researchers not mentioning their support by the grain industry, or that they are vegan/vegetarian. He took the money and did good research with it. The question is, would the dairy industry and the professor have hidden the results if they were negative.
@@frequentlycynical642why would he hide the results? He was actually paid to share his biased 'research'
Milk is perfectly fine , unless you have allergies .
15:47 with the mention of calcium and D, I highly recommend doing more research concerning the VAST importance of vitamin K2, which is probably the most important of all the fat soluble vitamins. Without this super vitamin (as well as D3), calcium cannot even be metabolized properly. This science is something that has not become widely known but needs to be made known worldwide because the majority of people are highly deficient in the critical vitamin. Some of the best info out there is through Kate Rheaume Bleue who has also written a book called "Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox.
Yesss! No one talks about K2 nearly enough!!!
Definitely!I take a Vitamin K complex, Menaquinone-7, 4 K2 & K1 Phytonadione (by Vitacost).
Another guy with an obsession with Vitamin K. The only time it's used in medicine is in clotting disorders www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/38599Pvitamink.pdf
with all due respect...I think that the latest science on muscle loss while fasting or just dieting to lose weight is that it is much less than previously thought and that is being suggested here by Dr Philips who is an admirable man and a good scientist.
If anything, it's worse, not better. My first major weight loss effort resulted in the inability to do one pull up. What a shock! Since then, with every weight loss need, I keep the protein up and I do fine on the machines.
Fantastic presentation! Love the Q&A at the end.
This is fascinating!
Love all of Stu's work!
If you eat the amount of carbohydrates recommended you will never get your insulin levels low enough to burn fat and lose weight. You will be constantly hungry and storing fat. There are no essential carbohydrates. Your liver makes all the glucose you need for normal blood sugar. Yes, dont be afraid of protein but also do not be afraid of fat. Animal fats, olive oil, avocado and coconut oil are good. So called vegetable oils are very bad. Only carbs I eat are incidental with the non starchy veggies I eat. I am 63 and have been eating this way mostly for 23 years since diagnosed with type 2 diabetes.
Great talk. Thank you!
Again and again, when it comes to diet and nutrition, myths (dogma not supported by evidence) get established that become impossible to dislodge. How can this be?
I just searched the protein content of the raw milk provolone I usually eat for lunch. 4oz has 29grams of protein all the BCAA in perfect amounts plus vitamin a, d, k, and minerals galore. Costs like $2. Plus I eat one or two HB eggs and some Genoa sausage. Boom! Perfect after my weightlifting! Long live Stu Phillips!
Sorry to be so off topic but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account??
I was stupid forgot my account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!
@Gunnar Lian instablaster =)
@Sonny Daniel I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Sonny Daniel it worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thanks so much, you saved my ass!
@Gunnar Lian no problem =)
the interesting thing now is, how is this knowledge transferable into a ketogenic diet? or do the ketones an additional job protecting muscle so that a higher protein intake does not add anything to a ketogenic diet, or maybe it adds some advantages but not that much?
for me milk is not helping with weight loss. it is quite the opposite. the high insulin response of milk messes with my ketogenic diet. when i cut out milk but still have at least 70g of animal protein i have a good success with weightloss. so now i get my protein from eggs, beef and pork and sometimes from chicken and salmon.
thank you for that presentation. one of the coolest dudes of all scientists :-)
A ketogenic diet averages about 50g of "net carbs" per day and some eat less. When one consumes carbs at this low level, Stuart is saying that eating high protein does not cause the same insulinogenic spike as if one was eating high carbs and increased protein. So this is very good for ketosis and protecting lean muscle especially when one gets older.
I'm a male, 52 year old averaging about 2250 calories per day (moderately active resistance training). Here is an example of my current "macro split" to stay low carb and in ketosis.
TDEE 2500 calories
Protein (45% of daily calories) 253g - 1012c
Carbs (15% of daily calories) 84g - 337c
Fat (40% of daily calories) 90g - 900c
BTW, my carbs are limited to low glycemic/high fiber beans and vegetables like salad. I eat them with meat and fat and have very slight blood sugar elevation if spread out through the day. Just eat about 100g of beans a couple time a day with the other food. I check my ketones and blood sugars often. I'm always in ketosis and even after eating the beans. Also beans have a good bit of protein and fiber, which I think are an optimal source of carbs on ketogenic diet. At least for me it works.
So, for low carb keto, the higher protein works great. Some eat more fat than I do. In fact, I was on the carnivore diet for 6 months and I was eating about 70% fat but it increased my LDL score to over 650! My cardiologist told me I should probably try going from carnivore diet to "ecoatkins" so I adjusted by increasing protein and adding the beans but the keto diet is really a balancing act between protein and fat because carbs are set low.
Dan, you were able to stay in ketosis with such high protein intake? I'm not a ketosis expert by any means. I think most people do it because they had a friend who tried it...not precise and measured like it seems you are. Obviously if your testing the amount you're eating isn't causing you to come out of ketosis so that's great.
On second thought that probably isn't an astronomical amount of protein for you either.
Brilliant!!!!!!
My eyes started glazing over when he was detailing the minutia of the studies. Just tell me WTF to do! haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You must be protein deficient then. Go eat and come back for better focus hahaha
Why skimmed milk and not full fat milk ? Skimmed has much higher level of carbs
Awesome video!
Dairy is full of pro hormones but I understand if they're paying you to say all this Stuart. Rest is useful. Tha Ms.
why not juuust anooother type of protein instead of DAIRY?! seems like there is no bias at all.... Yeah sure, probably the only takeaway is high protein diet when looking for weight loss
Yoghurt, cheese, whipped cream, cottage cheese, kefir, butter, it’s delicious and really healthy 😊
I'm lost as to how when TWO variables were changed for the last group, both amount of protein AND amount of dairy, he can specifically attribute the increased benefits to the dairy and NOT the protein???? Seems a rookie mistake to me.
Echoes Dr. Naimans P:E diet, or rather he is echoing this presentation.
If evidence-based medicine where like real evidence (as in a court of law), you would have to report exculpatory evidence, the data that show that it is carbohydrate that is the most important nutrient for weight loss. The presentation provides important points but would not be admissible to support the proposed idea. (At high carbohydrate, protein is most important for satiety but that’s different). On exculpatory evidence, courts have ruled that you cannot even look away. The comparison study of the athletes must be compared to Volek’s studies where you don’t have to go to extremely low energy. I wouldn’t tar anybody with any brushes but if low-carbohydrate (not necessarily ketogenic) diets were included, the funding would disappear. And, as the joke goes, meta-analysis is to analysis as metaphysics is to physics.
The main impotant conclusion starts from 35 min.
The figures are an important part of this presentation but they are poorly annotated and many of them are entirely unreadable because abysmally low resolution.
Probably the reason to not indulge on animal protein sources are saturated fats and possibly transfats when cooking meat for example. The AHA has recommended this a long time ago.
Alex Leaf has a great article on the details why and even some guys such as Layne Norton or the guys at Barbell Medicine who are real medical doctors and athletes themselfes recommend to keep saturated fats low or at least mention studies that found differences. Especially since protein quality can be increased when combining foods and even if the quality is not absolutely the best replacing carbohydrates by protein seems like a viable option to increase total protein consumption and therefore lessening the need of quality.
16:59 Is that 4.5 kg of muscle gain in 12 weeks for women????
Damn.
0,2 kg of muscle mass in 16 weeks.
Very small sample you checked for dairy and that test is not reliable at all. Dairy usually depletes calcium. Milk is a disaster. Stop furthering industrial agenda. Makes a pimp not a doctor.
Dairy?! Really?!
You should try raw milk or cheese made of raw milk 😋
“Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.”
Genesis 1:29
DENY YOURSELF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT
Not many people can figure out why fruit has fructose that can overload the liver and can harm the body, and nuts may have omega-6 that may lead to inflammation. It is in The Bible when one can comprehend.
That was BEFORE the fall of man.