The 2003 drill is incredible. They had 20 years to incorporate new ideas, and I think it is more pleasing. Musically... I think the 1983 version gives me more chills.
FMM--The Cavaliers 1977-1987 (Baritone/Contrabass) 1983--All day, every day !!! As a horn player, I wore out my DCI finals tape with their show on it, trying to play '83 Garfield's whole show. Their drill was stellar and groundbreaking... truth be told, between 1983 Rocky Point Holiday and the Z-pull at the end, and 1987's dissolving company front, I still get goosebumps. SPLOOIE-4-Life (and beyond)
I very much enjoy and appreciate the 2003 remix, but the original '83 version gets my enthusiastic vote. I wore that poor DCI cassette tape out listening to Garfield's show over and over and over again. And literally every time: chills and goosebumps!
loved both, but have to go with 83, it was groundbreaking of what the cadets were doing that year, nothing was expected of any east coast corps, then comes RPH and the crowd goes nuts!! East, East.....
1983 for me. Too bad the available camera footage missed so many of the cool drill formations and movements. You only catch brief glimpses of them as they are ending or changing over. This show changed Drum Corps forever moving forward.
Overall, both are excellent! The ‘83 drill was revolutionary. The percussion writing and performance execution of 2003 was great; A very musical and complementary book. This is always fun to watch and listen.
'03 was technically better, especial drumline. But the "83 show elicits an emotional response from me ever time I hear it. If that show does not give you goose bumps, you don't have a pulse.
Still mind blowing this, I marched Timpani in 81, Bass line in 82, snares in 83 and part of 84, all in Dcuk with the then very good Anchormen from Elland in West Yorkshire (God's Country) And 86 i was fortunate to march with Conquest Alliance on 4th Bass, We actually won that year, u defeated all season too, 87 i marched finals in the pit, champions again. Nothing we could ever do as a group could come close to these supremo's Love watching old school DCI It simply ROCKS !!!!
83 is way better. More hits. Its driving, pulsing. It flows. It creates anticipation. 2003....great addional front ensemble additions. Overall, 83. I wish they would have just copied it in 2003.
I gotta go with 83. When you heard that opening intro? You knew you were about to get your mind blown. There was something special about that 83 corps. They knew they had arrived and they were not going to be denied. Amazing!
1983 set standards, full stop. From every aspect, the musical writing, the drill, and most significantly to me- BRASS PERFORMANCE. As a student of Donnie, Jimmer, and some of the members and staff of this group namely Shorty Barthomew and Barbra Moroney; the 83 corps set standards that would only be bested by the same group of people at Star of Indiana. 2003 sounds pretty good, but their are too many ragged phrase endings and an untidiness that is disappointing. 2003 did not live up to that 1983 standard, from a performance standpoint. 1983 set the direction for musical clarity for the next decade. Sadly it is an approach that has been abandoned in favor of the beige, overly thick orchestration, non-music based organized sound that is the hallmark of the modern drum corps.
Anyone who thinks either version is "incredible" needs to realize that Cadets NEVER had the courage to perform "Colas Breugnon Overture", perhaps the most difficult composition ever staged by a drum & bugle corps ...
The 1983 arrangement sounds good bc it has the right brass roles. Mellos the hustle, low brass the muscle, sopranos the punctuation and the fire.
83........ Jim primes arrangement with GF bugles unbelievable.
The 2003 drill is incredible. They had 20 years to incorporate new ideas, and I think it is more pleasing. Musically... I think the 1983 version gives me more chills.
FMM--The Cavaliers 1977-1987 (Baritone/Contrabass) 1983--All day, every day !!! As a horn player, I wore out my DCI finals tape with their show on it, trying to play '83 Garfield's whole show. Their drill was stellar and groundbreaking... truth be told, between 1983 Rocky Point Holiday and the Z-pull at the end, and 1987's dissolving company front, I still get goosebumps. SPLOOIE-4-Life (and beyond)
I very much enjoy and appreciate the 2003 remix, but the original '83 version gets my enthusiastic vote. I wore that poor DCI cassette tape out listening to Garfield's show over and over and over again. And literally every time: chills and goosebumps!
loved both, but have to go with 83, it was groundbreaking of what the cadets were doing that year, nothing was expected of any east coast corps, then comes RPH and the crowd goes nuts!! East, East.....
Great year for us!
We all saw it coming in 82!
That piece was MADE for G bugles! I’ll take 1983.
1983 for me. Too bad the available camera footage missed so many of the cool drill formations and movements. You only catch brief glimpses of them as they are ending or changing over. This show changed Drum Corps forever moving forward.
Overall, both are excellent! The ‘83 drill was revolutionary. The percussion writing and performance execution of 2003 was great; A very musical and complementary book. This is always fun to watch and listen.
1983. I followed the circuit that year and saw them ten times including finals. It was goosebumps every time with standing ovation everywhere I went.
3:06 solidified their 1983 Championship - the Z-pull! My vote is 1983. The horn score complexity was unmatched.
'03 was technically better, especial drumline. But the "83 show elicits an emotional response from me ever time I hear it. If that show does not give you goose bumps, you don't have a pulse.
Still mind blowing this,
I marched Timpani in 81, Bass
line in 82, snares in 83 and part of 84, all in Dcuk with the
then very good Anchormen from Elland in West Yorkshire (God's Country)
And 86 i was fortunate to march with Conquest Alliance on 4th Bass,
We actually won that year, u defeated all season too,
87 i marched finals in the pit, champions again.
Nothing we could ever do as a group could come close to these supremo's
Love watching old school DCI
It simply ROCKS !!!!
If you didnt know 1983 when you heard 2003, it wouldn't have sounded like much.
2003 couldn’t be great without the mind blowing show of 1983….. grateful for both!!!
83 is way better. More hits. Its driving, pulsing. It flows. It creates anticipation. 2003....great addional front ensemble additions. Overall, 83. I wish they would have just copied it in 2003.
I gotta go with 83. When you heard that opening intro? You knew you were about to get your mind blown. There was something special about that 83 corps. They knew they had arrived and they were not going to be denied. Amazing!
1983 by far the best 🙂
Audio 83
Visual 03
Jeff did a better job than George! Hard to believe, yet, 83 will give you goosebumps 03 is just a better incorporation of ideas.
83 without a doubt. So groundbreaking.
First of all... thanks for putting this together.
2:52 legendary
RIP Cadets.
1983 score seemed to flow a little better. The creative concept of the 2003 drill is really cool. I would have to vote 1983!
1983 - all day long.
2003, what an incredible year. The top 4 we’re all unbelievable
1983 much more of the original score and emotional performance.Brass sound much better.
1983 Cadets was THE game changer.
Classic ❤❤❤❤❤
83 follows the original score a whole lot better than 03 03 sounds like watered down fluff to me
1983 Cadets were revolutionary. It holds up very well, but 20 years of innovation the art has advanced to much to call it better.
Gone forever. Way to go “adults in the room.”
83 all the way!
The 1982 version
I really miss the sound of the G bugles ...that's drum and bugle corps...
The better, is 1983, of course. After all...G Bugles!
1983 set standards, full stop. From every aspect, the musical writing, the drill, and most significantly to me- BRASS PERFORMANCE. As a student of Donnie, Jimmer, and some of the members and staff of this group namely Shorty Barthomew and Barbra Moroney; the 83 corps set standards that would only be bested by the same group of people at Star of Indiana. 2003 sounds pretty good, but their are too many ragged phrase endings and an untidiness that is disappointing. 2003 did not live up to that 1983 standard, from a performance standpoint. 1983 set the direction for musical clarity for the next decade. Sadly it is an approach that has been abandoned in favor of the beige, overly thick orchestration, non-music based organized sound that is the hallmark of the modern drum corps.
83 by far!
The camera work was certainly better in 03!
1983
I think 2021 was the best :P
BOTH!! ALL DAY LONG!!!!😄
'83
Neither. 1982 was best.
Loved the 82 show. Only thing better was the crowds reaction when they jumped from 5th to 3rd.
Anyone who thinks either version is "incredible" needs to realize that Cadets NEVER had the courage to perform "Colas Breugnon Overture", perhaps the most difficult composition ever staged by a drum & bugle corps ...
Uh, so?
This can’t be good because another thing is hard!
You're completely lost this isn't about your hookah bunger dunga crap
1985 Cadets and Bernstein’s Jeremiah Symphony would like to have a word with you..
I’d argue 27ths Niner-Two from that era was even more difficult.
1983