insanely well edited pve video and a really good build. good job man! the one thing i worry about though is if 25 agil is worth it over something like 90 fort post shrine for full reinforced armor, since conditioned doesn't do alot in diluvian and speed demon is minimal, regardless though this build has the honor of soloing the diluvian.
@@lolfoxmaster4870sometimes you just gotta sacrifice to make a build do good in what its made for, you don't need that bleed damage bro, RA postshrine is really good to get that extra bit of tankyness to make up for the speed
With my experience making this build, don't start with attunement, start attunementless and unlock frostdraw just before you shrine of order. Once you reach 100 WILL and 100 FORT, you may notice that you haven't got brick wall and you need to level up, but you can't stat into anything because it will screw with your shrine of order. So use Shrine of Blasphemy or Shrine of Chance to get brick wall and then Shrine of Order. After you have maxed, if you are missing cards you need like Full Reset (perhaps you didn't get a bell before you maxed), use shrine of chance or do Talent hand quests to get them.
A little tip for anyone who doesn't wanna go all the way to wave 50. Keep farming to wave 25 and repeat, most of the chests BETWEEN wave 25 and wave 50 are mid, so if you don't wanna go all the way to the riskiest part, stay at wave 25.
Dude ur the best 1. you just put the builder links in desc, not a discord link where we have to do a bunch of stuff before actually getting the build 2. You explain everything clearly and understandable (For example how you explained why perfect flash is good for this build) 3. The builds you make are fire Thank you so much for ur content!
Monster armor is not needed but way smarter than fully stacking dvm. Max dvm without monster armor is 64% (not counting echos) (counting drowned) Max monster armor (37%) + high dvm is like 58% if my calculations are correct (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
only few times i actually felt satisfied by someone's build, i actually managed to get that wave 50 diluvian solo with this build and im grateful for your job, keep cooking these builds
pro tip, get 50 intelligence pre shrine to get the talent water off a ducks back, whenever you vent it removes status effects and put it on whoever or whatever you vent, the best part about this is no mantra rounds are a status effect so you can actually use mantras during the no mantra rounds.
it can be used on like every build while has a free mantra slot because you can have an M1 build that isn't silentheart and use warden blades for nullifying clarity
great video and all but quick question, you say to get 1 frostdraw and THEN do shrine of order but whenever i start a playthrough i start with ten. is there a way to set it to 0 or am i just stupid for not realising that i need to start with 10 and just put 1 point into it?
Here's what I've found is best, for anyone who might read this, go attunementless, get 2 frigid prisms, and go to the trainer immediately, since I personally prefer doing TO1, I spawned at Etris, grabbed them out of my bank, and talked to the trainer, after which, you have 1 in frostdraw, so you can get the mantra's, while also having the option to level up for Brick Wall if you didn't get it (if I'm not mistaken).
@@ckim5620 wait..... how do i get 80 into frostdraw after shrine??? btw i never used shrine of order since this is my first pve build thats actually going well so lmk
This is a race based build since you cant get 30 int and 30 str at the same time on some race since it will miss out some stat for 30 weapon so yeah just get 25 int and not 30
prog order: 30 strength 30 intel 50 wilpower 90 fort 80 wilpower brick wall 1 frost heavy and agility (shrine here) 25 agility 80 frost 30 weapon Putting this into builder, some races just don't work for this build. For example, Etrean is one point off for getting level 5 mantras.
There’s a shrine called shrine of order that needs 10 knowledge to use (gold points above notes) and it balances your stats which is good for getting the points you need for a weapon/mantras/talents
how am i meant to get brick wall when you get 100 willpower and 100 fortitude halfway through level 16 and then you need to shrine, and the after shrining you go down to 75 each. how do i get extra talent hands pre-shrine?? 😒
You need to talk to mystic for human architecture tree and then use shrine of chance to roll for brick wall I did the same thing and had to wipe the build hope this helps
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283I want to die rn I completely forgot about that and shrined without getting brickwall, but then I got wiped by some people and bought a last wind cuz I was not in the mood to prog allat again I just wasted money...
You can choose attunementless and then go to the frost trainer and give him 5 frigid prisms and you unlock frostrdraw only 1. You do this so when you shrine of order, your stats will be a bit better. (Check wiki if some of the stuff I said don’t make sense)
@@JaronPalone Wait so when do you use frigid prism for this build, can you use it right before you shrine, or do you use it straight away when ur starting the build. Cuz i want the frostdraw mantras, but if i use frigid prism right before i shrine, will i get all the mantras i need?
idk if im dumb but this stat order doesnt work like, at all. I've been on the deepwoken builder trying to understand how you would be getting brick wall, when you are power 16 by all the points, and then shrine of order by adding the points into frost, heavy, and agility. And if you try and add the final points at end of the build you cant get enough heavy for the gran so I am lost. Only way it works, is if you remove 5 points off of int from the start but even then i dont see how it would be good.
@@talal3c celtorian tideknight, not black diver, Ignition deepdelver is for resistances, celtorian tideknight is what your supposed to have cuz of the talent
yo bro you should try doing a flamecharm diluvian build, Im hearing that flame sentinel is good and also flamerepulsion is like a nerfed payback (not sure how bloodless would work on it)
Just wanna let people know, this build TECHNICALLY works for Felinor too. However, at most you will only have 77 frostdraw, not the 80 frostdraw this build wants you to obtain. It's unfortunate but it doesnt stop you from getting any talents, and you still meet the gran sudaruska requirements so it's technically still viable
@@Aæāěëæâ just cuz u dont have the best race for it doesnt mean the build is completely unviable dipshit, talents and your own skill level carry most of it
@@mmfreshmeat2860it’s also just for speed in general. Getting space between you and monsters if you need to wait for a cooldown is better than being stuck in a crowd getting smacked
Doesn't matter since they're both deepbound, you can pick the one you like the most. Castle light is for faster progression, Diluvian Mechanism is not good for progging but it makes you safe from depths gankers so it's really up to you
either Ignition Deepdelver for the resistances or Celtorian Tideknight, I'd recommend Celtorian Tideknight personally as the talent it gives is very good for diluvian, however you need to beat diluvian for celtorian tideknight (You can get celtorian tideknight at wave 50) so I'd say use ignition deepdelver until you get celtorian tideknight and then use celtorian tideknight
insanely well edited pve video and a really good build. good job man! the one thing i worry about though is if 25 agil is worth it over something like 90 fort post shrine for full reinforced armor, since conditioned doesn't do alot in diluvian and speed demon is minimal, regardless though this build has the honor of soloing the diluvian.
I'd rather be dead than have 0 agility on a build.
@@lolfoxmaster4870 fr
Stfu, let me have my agility 😭
@@lolfoxmaster4870sometimes you just gotta sacrifice to make a build do good in what its made for, you don't need that bleed damage bro, RA postshrine is really good to get that extra bit of tankyness to make up for the speed
@@KasuKoiyasu reinforced armor is just not worth it on pve lol
Thumbnail is absolutely majestic
"please do not forget heretic's"
meanwhile I have heretics but have only used it about three times in the past week
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With my experience making this build, don't start with attunement, start attunementless and unlock frostdraw just before you shrine of order. Once you reach 100 WILL and 100 FORT, you may notice that you haven't got brick wall and you need to level up, but you can't stat into anything because it will screw with your shrine of order. So use Shrine of Blasphemy or Shrine of Chance to get brick wall and then Shrine of Order. After you have maxed, if you are missing cards you need like Full Reset (perhaps you didn't get a bell before you maxed), use shrine of chance or do Talent hand quests to get them.
yo bro, is the build good?
I'd rather try to find a different solution then have to escape Depths as a Deepbound just to unlock attunements.
@@DontWorryImNotImportant you dont have to start deepbound i did it with trial of one
@@DontWorryImNotImportant If you manage to get the bell, just ask yun shul lol
how do u get frostdraw whe attunementless
A little tip for anyone who doesn't wanna go all the way to wave 50.
Keep farming to wave 25 and repeat, most of the chests BETWEEN wave 25 and wave 50 are mid, so if you don't wanna go all the way to the riskiest part, stay at wave 25.
Do it still give good amount of relics?
@@shotsal4482ye
does wave 25 grant a high chance of relics like moonseye?
@@fructi5568 decently
@@shotsal4482 It's still great but dont expect like CRAZY amount of relics
Dude ur the best
1. you just put the builder links in desc, not a discord link where we have to do a bunch of stuff before actually getting the build
2. You explain everything clearly and understandable (For example how you explained why perfect flash is good for this build)
3. The builds you make are fire
Thank you so much for ur content!
what im saying😭🙏🏾
Monster armor is not needed but way smarter than fully stacking dvm.
Max dvm without monster armor is 64% (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
Max monster armor (37%) + high dvm is like 58% if my calculations are correct (not counting echos) (counting drowned)
that thumbnail turnt me gay
grapples
Bobbussy
nga what 😭
@@dojadeepwokenhad the same reaction
Gimme the bobbussy
01:20 the transition is smooth
only few times i actually felt satisfied by someone's build, i actually managed to get that wave 50 diluvian solo with this build and im grateful for your job, keep cooking these builds
what race?
0:59 for mantras
3:26 for talents
5:00 for stats
pro tip, get 50 intelligence pre shrine to get the talent water off a ducks back, whenever you vent it removes status effects and put it on whoever or whatever you vent, the best part about this is no mantra rounds are a status effect so you can actually use mantras during the no mantra rounds.
"please do not forget heretics" and I still forgot it....
best guide / showcase ive EVER seen.. so entertaining and comprehensive
tysm for this awesom vid man appreciat it rlly much
I love that kaido is actually giving the build link
no wayy your video editing this good, bro got high budget on this one
I love the editing and the build is great
i remember when you would get made fun of for using wardens blades in any build, its kinda weird seeing everyone using it now
it can be used on like every build while has a free mantra slot because you can have an M1 build that isn't silentheart and use warden blades for nullifying clarity
with only 1 frostdraw
that's because mantras use to not do any extra pve damage
5:17 instructions unclear, I bought a beer
Im wiping my 50 year old m1 silentheart pve build because its sucks now and i want to try yours
genuinly a great video! it helped me out so much. hope i can find more stuff from ya that i wana do :)
Cold thumbnail
great video and all but quick question, you say to get 1 frostdraw and THEN do shrine of order but whenever i start a playthrough i start with ten. is there a way to set it to 0 or am i just stupid for not realising that i need to start with 10 and just put 1 point into it?
u start off attunementless, then u escape depths to get frostdraw si it becomes 1 and not 10
YO guys, just a heads up, this build doesnt work on Adret, it misses 2 points for the gran sudaruska
fr..?
@@reflection3066 At the time i commented, yes
@@mintuy_4152 and now?
this has to be the best deep vid out there
do we have to go up to the surface and get a frost draw potion for this to work cus if i spawn in with frost draw it only lets me get to 77 frost
Yes I made the same mistake LOL
will the build work without glass path? also, great video man keep it up
Nah I would highly recommend to go crystal
Here's what I've found is best, for anyone who might read this, go attunementless, get 2 frigid prisms, and go to the trainer immediately, since I personally prefer doing TO1, I spawned at Etris, grabbed them out of my bank, and talked to the trainer, after which, you have 1 in frostdraw, so you can get the mantra's, while also having the option to level up for Brick Wall if you didn't get it (if I'm not mistaken).
Nope deepbound is a must have on pves
@@Aæāěëæâ diluvian spawn or light
What software do you use to edit videos?
and how do u get so many mantras when u shrine at 16lvl?
Fr
Get many first and reroll
@@vincentnguyen2548 how many do u get to reroll? Cuz u still got that library quest for the free mantra
@@johnomgerrossman4020 you can talk to some shrine to reroll mantra
ty for the good stat order (good stat order = easy progression)
4:57 is where the prog method is
this video was really well made
30 str & 30 int > 50 will > 90 fort > 80 will > 100 fort 100 will > shrine , then 1 in frost heavy and agil > then get gran requirements 🔥🔥
I started my build instantly with frostdraw and now i just realised at shrine of order that i cannot do it that way…
@@vilkkup5631Yes you can lol just go 15 strength pre shrine
@@rain-ts9fx that ruins the build smartie
@@ckim5620 wait..... how do i get 80 into frostdraw after shrine??? btw i never used shrine of order since this is my first pve build thats actually going well so lmk
This is a race based build since you cant get 30 int and 30 str at the same time on some race since it will miss out some stat for 30 weapon so yeah just get 25 int and not 30
just dont get conditioned runner and go 24 agility
@@Ademtror what if your gremor
Thank you for this build!!!
prog order:
30 strength 30 intel
50 wilpower
90 fort
80 wilpower
brick wall
1 frost heavy and agility (shrine here)
25 agility
80 frost 30 weapon
Putting this into builder, some races just don't work for this build. For example, Etrean is one point off for getting level 5 mantras.
i cant get it on any race any idea?
@@Necrohoshi me neither, I think its because he put 1 on frostdraw when its supposed to be 11.
is level 5 needed
@@yurrpr yes
how do he get one handed training with 30 weapon
Why is the deepbuilder different from the video? Is this because the game updates certain talents?
do i need to spawn in with frostdraw or do i need to learn it before shrine?
learn before shrine
my goat crimson kaido uploaded 🗣🔥🔥💯
BRO THE DRIP IS CRAZY
Its literally just martial artist😭 hop off his diсk bro
Best build guide by far keep this up 💯
What other oath would work for this build? Or is getting dawnwalker *very* important?
Dawnwalker very impo
go blindseer if u dont wanna risk getting dawnwalker
hey can you upload the exact build with the exact cards, bc the build in the description doesent have crystalization or lose your mind .
idk why i am missing 1 point into hvy i did everything like you said and on the end i only have 29 hvy
literally me 😢
this is race specific look in desc
@@Hycronix-m5i it works in builder
what do you do if your race (in this case khan) forces you to have one extra point in agility or charisma for core attributes?
Put less points into heavy because khan 27 hvy
boy oh boy, such a cool build, too bad im a casual player and dont have a grand sudaruska casually on hand
You can farm Crypt of The Unbroken, sure the rates for it are lower but that's your best bet if you can't beat Layer 2.
if u still need one i gotchu for free
If your casual why you soloing
@@Skill_lssue Lol Im not the dude but if you are still up for donating I can take it.
5:19 Whats shrining?
There’s a shrine called shrine of order that needs 10 knowledge to use (gold points above notes) and it balances your stats which is good for getting the points you need for a weapon/mantras/talents
@@nbinacup6279 thanks bro🙏
💀💀💀💀
man i deadass feel like im making a different build when looking at your builder link😭
real
honestly W video W editing W thumbnail
how am i meant to get brick wall when you get 100 willpower and 100 fortitude halfway through level 16 and then you need to shrine, and the after shrining you go down to 75 each. how do i get extra talent hands pre-shrine?? 😒
You need to talk to mystic for human architecture tree and then use shrine of chance to roll for brick wall I did the same thing and had to wipe the build hope this helps
same
shrine of blasphemy methinks
What is the mantra modifers for ice servant and ice floak pls
nothing
or for your choice
does he use shrine of blasphamey so that he can get cards because im too high level before i shrine to get my other cards
Shrine of chance and human architect at mystic
@@darkgrim209 needed this thanks
Finally a pve build for dilucian from my favorite build creator
id say drop the viscosity enchant if you're running payback cuz the damage keeps on subtracting even after you've healed
viscosity still lets you survive longer + u dont straight up die cuz u got hit with kyrsbrute grab
Take my subscription, you deserve it.
how am i supposed to get brick wall pre shrine when i cannot level up because my stats would become mess after shrine of order
Shrine of chance
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283 of course thank you i completely forgot other useful shrines exist
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283I want to die rn
I completely forgot about that and shrined without getting brickwall, but then I got wiped by some people and bought a last wind cuz I was not in the mood to prog allat again
I just wasted money...
I used shrine of Blasphemy to get 3 free level without affecting my stats, and then I shrine of ordered.
@@assaultmodemeliodas5283 I used shrine twice after talking to mystic and still didnt get it am i doing something wrong
How do you only only out 1 point into frostdraw when you start with 10
You can choose attunementless and then go to the frost trainer and give him 5 frigid prisms and you unlock frostrdraw only 1. You do this so when you shrine of order, your stats will be a bit better. (Check wiki if some of the stuff I said don’t make sense)
@@JaronPalone oh alr thx
@@JaronPalone Wait so when do you use frigid prism for this build, can you use it right before you shrine, or do you use it straight away when ur starting the build. Cuz i want the frostdraw mantras, but if i use frigid prism right before i shrine, will i get all the mantras i need?
@@JTTrenoI can’t understand what your saying
@@sosuke8424 he's asking if you drink the frost potion as soon as you start or right before you shrine of order
when i get mantra hands do i roll 2 or do i choose mantras and reroll them later?
roll 2
@@zZzoien well how will i get the mantras later?
@@Ademtror shrine of tempation
@@zZzoien +shrine of unification
kaido, gremor race work?
Ye
Why is his dawnwalker mantras white and mine rainbow?
turn on photosensitive mode and low graphics
@@puxerdw thx man
acn i solo with another payback variant? or i must get the beam one?
idk if im dumb but this stat order doesnt work like, at all. I've been on the deepwoken builder trying to understand how you would be getting brick wall, when you are power 16 by all the points, and then shrine of order by adding the points into frost, heavy, and agility. And if you try and add the final points at end of the build you cant get enough heavy for the gran so I am lost. Only way it works, is if you remove 5 points off of int from the start but even then i dont see how it would be good.
disregard this, I forgot about investment points at the bottom I am slow
😭😭😭😭😭😭
what are all the other mantra modifers though like warden blades, ice carve, ice flock etc also what armour should i rock if i dont have tidekeeper
Should I be using prophets cloak or martial artist??
ignition deepdelver or black diver
@@talal3c celtorian tideknight, not black diver, Ignition deepdelver is for resistances, celtorian tideknight is what your supposed to have cuz of the talent
I end up being 3 points off and shrine of mastery dosent work
your probably wrong race, which race are you?
I just had a quick question, why not use icecarve? Icecarve basically lets you stay in the air till its duration.
THE EDITING IS RLY SMOOTH
yo bro you should try doing a flamecharm diluvian build, Im hearing that flame sentinel is good and also flamerepulsion is like a nerfed payback (not sure how bloodless would work on it)
Hmmm, never thought of that
bloodless has a healing cap
how do you get so many mantras if you want us to get frostdraw at power 16-17 but we need 6 frost mantras
What i do is i get mantras at first then when i shrind i reroll them
go do primadon and pray u get a moonseye thats what i did
@@Swazyisonyt orrr go ethiron
Just wanna let people know, this build TECHNICALLY works for Felinor too. However, at most you will only have 77 frostdraw, not the 80 frostdraw this build wants you to obtain. It's unfortunate but it doesnt stop you from getting any talents, and you still meet the gran sudaruska requirements so it's technically still viable
No it is not
This works with every other race but it is NOT viable whatsoever
@@Aæāěëæâ gang it's still viable, i still beat diluv wave 50
@@Aæāěëæâ just cuz u dont have the best race for it doesnt mean the build is completely unviable dipshit, talents and your own skill level carry most of it
Everytime try to make thsi build i get jumped by a random max lvl railblade silentheart that says ez when im lvl 10
nice build😼how did you get one handed training with only 30 heavy?
With a gran sudaruska you don't need one handed training. It has a passive that basically gives you the talent
Amazing video as always but I had to ask, do you have to be deepbound for the build? or can you do other spawn locations
You can, but deep bound is easier
you don't have to be, but deepbound is recommended since the prog is faster and you have access to the castle light
what is 25 agility for? wouldnt it be better to get 25 charisma for tough love for another dmg multiplier
Speed demon
@@darkgrim209 thank you
@@mmfreshmeat2860it’s also just for speed in general. Getting space between you and monsters if you need to wait for a cooldown is better than being stuck in a crowd getting smacked
how to get 1 stat point in frost??
you have to go to the frostdraw trainer
@@DenseMelon ty
does this build work with the oath blindseer
How should progress with 1 agility frostdraw and hvy????????
For the mantras mods is it 3 of each material?
is there any way i could add ice skate to this
What order do you do the stat points in??
So do i get my attunement up pre shrine? And if so what should it be?
No just get frost before shrining with the potion from nell
whats the hair combo u use :P
How do you get the black and red vesperian mask?
dayum the thumnail goes crazy
Bruh this is guide I've been looking Fast and simple you got my sub!
is authority commander worth over ignition deepdelver tho?
What orgin do u have castle or the other??????????????????????????
Doesn't matter since they're both deepbound, you can pick the one you like the most. Castle light is for faster progression, Diluvian Mechanism is not good for progging but it makes you safe from depths gankers so it's really up to you
hey i’m following this build, is it viable for pve outside diluvian such as for boses?
how do you get brickwall when u have 7 investment points left when u hit 100 will and 100 fort
Shrine of chance
shrine buddy
Ayo I seen you cook with lots of builds but could you make an iron Light build like with rapier or smt?
What outfit you use for diluvian?
either Ignition Deepdelver for the resistances or Celtorian Tideknight, I'd recommend Celtorian Tideknight personally as the talent it gives is very good for diluvian, however you need to beat diluvian for celtorian tideknight (You can get celtorian tideknight at wave 50) so I'd say use ignition deepdelver until you get celtorian tideknight and then use celtorian tideknight
some talents you talk about in the video are not in the builder link 😭🙏
( And you never mentioned what master armor to use)
he using black diver in the vid
@@mrtaxcollector9552 what about all the talents he's missing
idrk about that but you can just look at the video again to figure out the talents
@@mrtaxcollector9552if u have it send it to me
is there a oath u can replace dawnwalker with cause i cant do ethiron
Nope, dawnwalker is a must
@@CrimsonKaido im only using the build for chaser and bosses
@@UnknownUnknown-sf7ds WHAT ARE YOU DOING DAWG USING A DILUVIAN BUILD FOR STUFF THAT ISN'T DILUVIAN
@ quite late for a response 😂. I quit deep long time ago
at 5:19 which shrine is it
Order
For this build, is OK to use Gran Sudaruska 3 star weight?
Is this build still viable? And if it is can you use shrine of mastery to make up for the race points?
I know its not recommended but can I use ertrean race? (bc I cant find good ice pve build)
U cant
For the frost draw do I need to get it using the frostdraw potion?
do you?