Its probably best that this band seperated at a peak instead of after boring or repetitive declines . But Frank never found better vocalists / personalities in the years that followed .
Unfortunately the cameraman/editor prefers the other members of the group although its good to see Ian Underwood and the concentration needed to perform these little numbers
As someone born and raised in LA, it’s so funny to me imagining some Swedish or German fans listening to the album, with zero context, possibly singing along about riding in a Carucha to El Monte lol
Leave it to Zappa. The Mothers Of Invention with The Turtles - the seemingly most unlikely combination since Hendrix opened for the Monkees. But this worked beautifully. Zappa, "Flo" and "Eddie". Howard Kaylan has a great voice. Wish I could have been at one of these shows.
Best band I ever saw up to that point. Zappa's arrangements could be very dense, and more so as the years progressed. But this small combo format made it possible for listeners to hear and see everything going on in real time. FZ's guitar tone in some of these shows was so ugly, and mean sounding, I don't think I've ever heard anything to top it. The full run of June 1971 Fillmore East shows is scheduled for release next month, and I probably can't afford it!
Mothers vol 1. Eddie y Flo; Simmons y el extraordinario Aynsley Dunbar; que no tocó por culpa de una moneda echada a la suerte, con Jimmy Hendrix (dice una leyenda); pero que afortunadamente lo ligó a FZ. Ian Underwood, que venía desde los originales... Of invention, y George Duke. Los dos, son parte esencial de lo mejor de Frank Vincent. Con ese estado de gracia musical que siempre cultivó, pero que fue más evidente desde fines de los sesenta, hasta mediados de los setentas. Aquí, una preciosa muestra en vivo. Gracias
Frank is playing the same hollow bodied guitar that he played on the 71 Fillmore album . The band is a similar line up , except I think Don Preston was playing keyboards at the Fillmore .
Also, Jim Pons and someone named Sam Harris. There are actually two Sam Harris's and the one on Fillmore was only there that one time. I don't remember what Pons did, maybe play drums? Or was Ainsley playing then?
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. No , Pons is the bass player on the classic album FILLMORE 71 . He was a Turtle with Howard and Mark probably as far back as 1966 . He couldnt read music , so Ian hard to teach him the changes seperate from the full band sessions . He describes the craziness in a Guitar Player interview , or one of those magazines .
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Oh no , he is probably on at least half of the shows between 1970 and 1972 . The guy he replaced , Jeff , is featured in the plot of 200 Motels , as a comic plot theme . He steals the towels in the cartoon section , and an actor playing him expounds on better bands he wants to join .
I remember that too!!! I was blessed to have watched it multiple times about 6yrs ago. Been awhile!!! Does anybody know the name of the concert?? Help I'm a rock!!!
Frank playing a 335, nice. Flo and Eddie, George and Ian Underwood, Wow what a lineup. Who's playing Bass? And is that Terry on Drums? Lil help? 05-21-21 greetings from Colorado Springs Colorado Christopher. Ainsley Dunbar, got it.
Is this from the same tour that included the London Coliseum, the tour before the tour that ended with Zappa being pushed off the stage? I was at the Coliseum and the infamous Rainbow one. I remember Steve Stills guested at the Coliseum. Frank says to him "OK Steve, now you're gonna make up a song and perform it right here on stage!" Steve rose to the occasion very well.
Iain Robb I loved her voice on the recording. And then the chuckle at the end. You know she was having a blast...which was one of things Frank was about.
Dennis L.P. Dennis, my comment above was n reference to klesh’s post about the soprano’s voice being replaced by Vollman in this live performance. My post referred to the original recording. Vollman wasn’t even around Zappa then. Nelcy Walker was the vocalist who sang that part and is clearly a “female.”Perhaps you should not have read my comment alone...there was a thread that if read, my comment may have been understood in its context. READ LAIN ROBB’S COMMENT”
You have to wonder how long Flo & Eddie would've continued with Zappa if the London incident didn't end that tour and era. I like that Zappa got right to work, recording Waka/Jawaka and Grand Wazoo and mounting the Grand Wazoo tour nine months to the day after the horrible push into the pit. Zappa liked what Flo & Eddie brought to his Mothers, hence hired them, but, as I said, I wonder how long it would've lasted.
When did they bad mouth him? They guested at least once a few years later in the 70s. And rehearsed in 87 to tour again. And FZ sounded really jovial and chummy with them when they interviewed him on their radio show sometime after 88
I highly recommend reading "Frank & Co" by Co de Kloet (Dutch radio maker, writer and close friend of Franks). He spoke to mark and howard and the full interview is in the book. It gives a concise idea about what happened back then.
![Frank Zappa & The Mothers - Live at The Roxy 1973 [extras]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r7fyyhhuE7c/mqdefault.jpg)
One of Frank’s best bands. Also No child predators in this group. Ef you Estrada
i had no memory of any band members being child touchers tis true?
@@Chrim66 It was reported by various media that Roy Estrada was imprisoned for aforementioned crime.
@@cravinbob He was still a fantastic bass player for Little Feat and for FZ. ❄️🌎❄️
Woah.. I never heard this before. There were pedos In Frank's band?! I need more details
Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for the info and I agree!
Howie and Mark,
Aynsley Dunbar,
George Duke,
Ian Underwood,
Jeff Simmons
and Frank Zappa
Definitely one of the best Mothers line-up
C'mon man, it's Flo and Eddie.
Mark Wilde that’s what I was thinking 😂
Aynsley Dunbar, what a drummer. Just keep the cloth hangers and rubber chickens away from him.
@@wildmanfisher And don’t forget the whips, canes, and toilet brushes either!!!
George duke AND ian underwood on keyboards… my mind is blown
I fucking love Flo and Eddie! Absolutely beautiful!
Its probably best that this band seperated at a peak instead of after boring or repetitive declines . But Frank never found better vocalists / personalities in the years that followed .
Unfortunately the cameraman/editor prefers the other members of the group although its good to see Ian Underwood and the concentration needed to perform these little numbers
As someone born and raised in LA, it’s so funny to me imagining some Swedish or German fans listening to the album, with zero context, possibly singing along about riding in a Carucha to El Monte lol
That just proves that you don't have to understand the (creator's) meaning of something to truly enjoy it.
german fan here, i‘ve been singing along to this damned song for a year and only recently found out what it means
Zappa played in Germany a lot in the early days, mid 60's. Holiday in Berlin fully blown from Burnt Weenie Sandwich, my first Zappa record
@@drwest-vk4pv what's it mean then?
Apparently they changed Billy The Mountain every night to include local references.
Howie and Mark from The Turtles, AKA Flo and Eddie. Awesome upload!!
Just what I needed, some Serious musicians who knows how to have fun and nail the entire show?
Leave it to Zappa. The Mothers Of Invention with The Turtles - the seemingly most unlikely combination since Hendrix opened for the Monkees. But this worked beautifully. Zappa, "Flo" and "Eddie". Howard Kaylan has a great voice. Wish I could have been at one of these shows.
Best band I ever saw up to that point. Zappa's arrangements could be very dense, and more so as the years progressed. But this small combo format made it possible for listeners to hear and see everything going on in real time. FZ's guitar tone in some of these shows was so ugly, and mean sounding, I don't think I've ever heard anything to top it. The full run of June 1971 Fillmore East shows is scheduled for release next month, and I probably can't afford it!
3:17 jesus christ that's almost like 80s Hardcore Punk
A True Genius! Finally! Frank Zappa! What a Great Relief!
A Blessed Relief if you will.
Love it!
Mothers vol 1. Eddie y Flo; Simmons y el extraordinario Aynsley Dunbar; que no tocó por culpa de una moneda echada a la suerte, con Jimmy Hendrix (dice una leyenda); pero que afortunadamente lo ligó a FZ. Ian Underwood, que venía desde los originales... Of invention, y George Duke. Los dos, son parte esencial de lo mejor de Frank Vincent. Con ese estado de gracia musical que siempre cultivó, pero que fue más evidente desde fines de los sesenta, hasta mediados de los setentas. Aquí, una preciosa muestra en vivo. Gracias
All about Dunbar.
THE BEST!!!
⚡️🌟🥁
Frank is playing the same hollow bodied guitar that he played on the 71 Fillmore album . The band is a similar line up , except I think Don Preston was playing keyboards at the Fillmore .
Also, Jim Pons and someone named Sam Harris. There are actually two Sam Harris's and the one on Fillmore was only there that one time. I don't remember what Pons did, maybe play drums? Or was Ainsley playing then?
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. No , Pons is the bass player on the classic album FILLMORE 71 . He was a Turtle with Howard and Mark probably as far back as 1966 . He couldnt read music , so Ian hard to teach him the changes seperate from the full band sessions . He describes the craziness in a Guitar Player interview , or one of those magazines .
@@jameskennedy721 wow, interesting, thank you. So, was Filmore his only appearance with a Zappa band?
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Oh no , he is probably on at least half of the shows between 1970 and 1972 . The guy he replaced , Jeff , is featured in the plot of 200 Motels , as a comic plot theme . He steals the towels in the cartoon section , and an actor playing him expounds on better bands he wants to join .
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. ...FYI, Aynsley Dunbar was the drummer on the Fillmore '71 Live album.
Yo there used to be a full concert video of this on youtube bit someone took it off dear lord someone help me find it
I remember that too!!! I was blessed to have watched it multiple times about 6yrs ago. Been awhile!!! Does anybody know the name of the concert?? Help I'm a rock!!!
www.dailymotion.com/video/x1q7jki
@@adriancubilla2106 yesssssss thank you
I would like to see that too
FZ, the Best!!!
Frank playing a 335, nice. Flo and Eddie, George and Ian Underwood, Wow what a lineup.
Who's playing Bass? And is that Terry on Drums?
Lil help?
05-21-21 greetings from Colorado Springs Colorado Christopher.
Ainsley Dunbar, got it.
jeff simmons is on bass
Aynsley Dunbar on drums.
♡♡♡♡♡ !!!!!
Going to EL MONTEEEE Legion Stadium
zappa forever..... the best¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
He's using the chicken to measure it!
Here’s a question por los Mexicanos... primea carucha Chevy 39 ... is it colloquial espanol for ‘my first car Chevy 39”?
Yes, it is
@@singlelit0 Gracias senor
Actually it's, "primer mi carucha", which means he drove a primer grey, 39 Chevy.
🚘
Mother people is Fabuluth! 🕺🏻
From the records I alway thought they sung: We are the other people
Is this from the same tour that included the London Coliseum, the tour before the tour that ended with Zappa being pushed off the stage? I was at the Coliseum and the infamous Rainbow one.
I remember Steve Stills guested at the Coliseum. Frank says to him "OK Steve, now you're gonna make up a song and perform it right here on stage!" Steve rose to the occasion very well.
Wow, I never heard that Stephen stills story, hopefully there is film of it in the vault.
You are Volman ? Yeah..no, no..he's Volman.
so fast!!!
Interesting bass line there.
super
So much better without the female operatic vocals on the fuzzy dice portion.
+klesh I disagree. The soprano vocals are hilarious.
Iain Robb I loved her voice on the recording. And then the chuckle at the end. You know she was having a blast...which was one of things Frank was about.
+syn707
That's not a female...that's Mark Volman
Dennis L.P. Dennis, my comment above was n reference to klesh’s post about the soprano’s voice being replaced by Vollman in this live performance. My post referred to the original recording. Vollman wasn’t even around Zappa then. Nelcy Walker was the vocalist who sang that part and is clearly a “female.”Perhaps you should not have read my comment alone...there was a thread that if read, my comment may have been understood in its context. READ LAIN ROBB’S COMMENT”
oh i dunno...
I never liked the Flo and Eddie period.....except for Billy the Mountain.
Eventually they went on to bad mouth Zappa.....and on to obscurity
You have to wonder how long Flo & Eddie would've continued with Zappa if the London incident didn't end that tour and era.
I like that Zappa got right to work, recording Waka/Jawaka and Grand Wazoo and mounting the Grand Wazoo tour nine months to the day after the horrible push into the pit.
Zappa liked what Flo & Eddie brought to his Mothers, hence hired them, but, as I said, I wonder how long it would've lasted.
'72 was an astonishing year for FZ, wasn't it?
check the Fillmore East - June 1971 album !!!
When did they bad mouth him? They guested at least once a few years later in the 70s. And rehearsed in 87 to tour again. And FZ sounded really jovial and chummy with them when they interviewed him on their radio show sometime after 88
I highly recommend reading "Frank & Co" by Co de Kloet (Dutch radio maker, writer and close friend of Franks). He spoke to mark and howard and the full interview is in the book. It gives a concise idea about what happened back then.
Ooof… Eddie and Flo….. cant stand them. I M O the worst innZappas Career.
The band was superb, but not these vokalists!