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Oh yeah me too i my Friends Always saying to me how i can Smile so much when a skate and i dont know i have Always a fat ass Smile in my face and i Love IT
I've been skating for for over 15 years. Despite this, I've always been told I look uncomfortable on my board. Even the tricks I can do consistantly look like dogshit. After many years of trying to improve my style, I gave up and embraced it. The day I stopped giving a shit about my lack of style made skateboarding more fun at my oldish age.
interesting, it was actually the reverse for me, my friends were honest with me and brought it up and i worked on it, and i actually got better and it made me improve. im older now though, 40, and care less, ive fallen back to my stiff forceful style that doesnt look as good as when i was younger, but my body also isnt as agile so....
I enjoyed this v much! The double backflip/switch flip analogy was on point. It’s hard to convey how difficult switch is to a non-skater or even a beginner
idk i adapted to switch pretty well....so it depends from person to person, but always had an easier time then everyone around me with stuff like this, i picked up bowling left handed pretty quickly also. im not ambidextrous, and switch doesn't feel the same, but idk ive just always understood the adjustments pretty easily....but obviously my personal experience isnt the majority.
It’s so true how style comes naturally. I don’t skate often, but I’ve been snowboarding for 14 years. I’ve never really tried to force myself to have style. Maybe some minor tweaks here or there to clean up my tricks a bit, but my style of riding has been 95% due to me just riding so often and naturally developing my style of riding based on how I like to ride
In my initial year of skateboarding I had a naturally bad style. But i studied my footy with my homies and I could see like all of my ollies were rocket as hell. And re watching that footage and actually be able to point out the stuff I need to improve on was useful and made my style develop faster. Also just rolling around and pushing everywhere u go will wastly improve your speed and style.
i personally admire good skating (hard tricks etc) than the whole style part of it (outfits are cool but for me its weird when begginers wear very skateish outfits coz i am a begginer too and i feel kinda like i havent unlocked them yet , like i cant wear them before i get more exp in skating )
There is no good or bad style. Style is individual and unique to each person. The only style I would say could be considered bad is fake or forced style. That being said, every style is forced in some way, since you are forcing your body to move. Be unique. Be yourself, and be comfortable.
there is def bad style, i had bad style when i started skating, as i got better it finally came up with some friends of mine, and honestly i noticed in videos of myself my stuff not looking as good as my friends, they were honest with me and i worked on it, my body was very stiff and i was overly aggressive and forceful, i was able to tone it down to looking much better. interestingly when i did this, i was popping tricks higher and able to do things i couldn't before, like flip into grinds and slides. I think this is because i was trying to finish every trick to quickly to secure landing it, but once i let things go and float, it opened up opportunities.
I don't think of style as clothing. I think of style as flow and board control and trick selection and whether you skate aggressive and fast or technical or smooth or a combination.
And there's much more than that. To be honest personally I don't care what anyone wears. It's a form of self expression and should be separated from skateboarding.
Your so great John plz keep being yourself and doing what you do and staying so positive!! And like I literally mean that, you see these types of comments all the time on ppls videos but you are the one creator I personally actually feel confident in saying that about.
Dude what ever happened to grab your deck and go sk8 and have fun, wtf? I'm 46 YEARS young and I've been in the sk8 world since 1985 when I was 9 years, this is crazy, kids grab your 🛹 deck and go out and have fun and be true to you, don't get into caring what others think! ✌️ PEACE!
Haven’t been on UA-cam in soo long and been subbed for about 6 years already and now you’re at 1 million congrats man you’ve been great. To see you still here warms me and keep guiding the community
I’m trying to remember to film 🎥 more often because I feel like I have good style and have the basics clean, but every video I have is at the end of my sessions where the juice is gone 😅 idk sometimes I just lose track because I’m having fun. Definitely going to start filming more 🙌
Yup same goes for almost all sports. In Basketball you can have a higher shooting % and turn the ball over less but the kid with a sick cross over with flashy handles and a smooth looking jumper will be recruited more often. Style goes a LONG way in everything and I can’t blame ppl because I honestly like watching more esthetic things in general 🤷🏽
from my experience, just focus on learning. Learning and repetition will equate to style later. learning a fake steez might make it harder to learn tricks later so just have fun. if you're on a skateboard you already look pretty dang cool. Loved this video a lot, people really don't talk about these topics beyond the fact they exist.
I enjoyed this video John i've been wanting to start skating for UA-cam but I live in a small town in Colorado that doesn't have a skate park i have one which is about 15 minutes away I really wish I lived in a slightly larger town but its been great watching you over the years thank you for all the videos you have put out
I would love to develop my style but unfortunately I live in a place where its winter for 6 months out of the year, also I have a knee injury and a collapsed arch in my foot so I'm lucky to skate once a month. It also probably doesn't help that I'm the only skater in my friend group that's left, all the others stopped skating or moved away..
Lmaoo funny you mention miles first. I grew up filming with that dude in sac. He always used to say hi to me at the park, even after he became pro. He’s a good dude.
Listen John. I know my style sucks okay? I skate very stiff as it’s the only way I truly feel comfortable attempting tricks. You ain’t gotta tell me my style sucks. I get it enough from my friends who I skate with (Who I also beat regularly in games of skate. But they still talk crap because of how my style is when skating)
From the N-Men docufilm by James Sweigert: "skateboarding is not about how many tricks you know, it's about how cool you look doing the ones you do know." This from a guy in his 60's who has been skating street and bowls for the last 50 years.
I have experienced more “success” skating than most skaters I know because to me it’s just an art. I teach skateboarding after school classes, I focus on beginners. If you can push, ride, and skate around my class is sort of for you, but if you have never tried before I’m your man. I get kids who never skated before on a board for literally the first time. It’s a lot of fun coaching brand new skaters through the most difficult first few skills, balancing on the board, pushing, using their skateboard pads, falling well, staying safe, and some of the tips to having a good experience at the start. I make good money running my after school classes, I plan on doing it for the next 20 years. I’m really excited at the prospect that as I get better the lessons I will teach my students will improve and I’ll be able to teach better skaters and help them advance further.
basically just ride more then it will look more natural/feel more natural. and dont copy others style. just ride and yours will come out. Want better style? ride more. Want to ride more w out getting bored? push yourself and ride w homies.
I think the best style in any sport or atheletic undertaking really just comes from experience and that 10,000 hour rule....... Like you said style comes naturally
at the end of the day just be your self or whatever you want to be, judge less and DO more. If you dont free yourself will be harder to learn things and this is a life lesson.
Great video and I agree on all points but one. I don't think people smell the bull if you can't do anything technical. My brother, for example, has a very small bag of transition tricks but he has such a stylish bs piv and bs 5-0. I love watching them, he holds them so good and his silhouette looks class. Also, if you think about stylish skater like Jay Adams back in his heyday, in modern terms his skating lacks tech but he was one of the most stylish skaters of a generation. I know a lot of very stylish skaters who have small trick bags... Some people just develop style very fast and naturally and some never do, they can be tech wizards but will always look horrible, no matter what they wear or how hard they try.
Thats a great hoodie I love it. This is a great message too. I been skating for a long time and still cant really do too many tricks so this makes me feel a little better haha
I can't believe you talked about style without showing us how to push Mongo! Unfortunately, after skating for 5 or so years, I was not able to unlearn how to push Mongo. RIP my skateboarding career.
My friend told me that my kickflips actually like spin under my feet and it looks like it sticks to my feet or my pop shuvs are super high and i also catch them with my front foot soo. I guess high pop is my skatestyle
remember where skating came from . surfing. pure style. pure flow. skating is the son of surfing. style baby! its not that we can hit the layback snap. its how we executed it. lol dude dubbed me "style master cody" at the skatepark lmao. surfing influences my skating. i like speed and flow all in style haha i do agree that skate apparel to me is ehh. seems like more people dress the part then do the skating. its hot af but they wear the biggest jeans black hoodie beenie lol like what? i live in hawaii. skate in surf shorts cuz thats what i wear everywhere lol
I dunno John I don’t appreciate people that can switch flip back tail but can’t pump around comfortable. My ideal skateboarder is just an all terrain machine. Regardless of style.. Every soty is a good example of that. Even though Tom penny ain’t doing no switch fs flip on a vert ramp. Also anyones style and trick selection seems to be a great depiction of there personality.
Only just started to get clips at my local skatepark and realized I do tricks hunched with my arms extendo behind my back… sucks I can’t skate in 3rd person 😿
Its just therapeutic for me. I dont skate in a conventional sense, I just cruise. I put 60mm wheels on a 8.5 inch popsicle deck and pavement surf. Can I ollie? No. Can I do manuals and tricks? Also no. But ive enjoyed riding for years. I can hop down a curb and do an occasional 180 switch, besides that its all hillbombing and city exploring for me. And that's just fine.
Dude such a good video, the parallel in this and what it means to success in general. I don't even skateboard, but the message here goes so far beyond skateboarding.
It sucks how much style influences how people perceive you as a skater. Jeff Dechesare is fucking unreal, does the most insane shit. But because his style is a bit weird, it's more difficult for him to get solid sponsors, and people are always chirping.
For me, it's not art or a sport, it's happiness.
Perfect way of describing skateboarding 🛹 👍
For me too. It is like a high intensity workout that is fun and shifts focus from all problems.
facts
For me, its pain and suffering.
Oh yeah me too i my Friends Always saying to me how i can Smile so much when a skate and i dont know i have Always a fat ass Smile in my face and i Love IT
I've been skating for for over 15 years. Despite this, I've always been told I look uncomfortable on my board. Even the tricks I can do consistantly look like dogshit. After many years of trying to improve my style, I gave up and embraced it. The day I stopped giving a shit about my lack of style made skateboarding more fun at my oldish age.
my homie has no style but he’s still fire still dope to watch
interesting, it was actually the reverse for me, my friends were honest with me and brought it up and i worked on it, and i actually got better and it made me improve. im older now though, 40, and care less, ive fallen back to my stiff forceful style that doesnt look as good as when i was younger, but my body also isnt as agile so....
I enjoyed this v much! The double backflip/switch flip analogy was on point. It’s hard to convey how difficult switch is to a non-skater or even a beginner
😘😍love you
switch gets pretty easy after a while. i can barley 360 flip but can already sw kick and heelflip
idk i adapted to switch pretty well....so it depends from person to person, but always had an easier time then everyone around me with stuff like this, i picked up bowling left handed pretty quickly also. im not ambidextrous, and switch doesn't feel the same, but idk ive just always understood the adjustments pretty easily....but obviously my personal experience isnt the majority.
i like the jonny giger arm style, where his arms are kinda floppy but very controlled
It’s so true how style comes naturally. I don’t skate often, but I’ve been snowboarding for 14 years. I’ve never really tried to force myself to have style. Maybe some minor tweaks here or there to clean up my tricks a bit, but my style of riding has been 95% due to me just riding so often and naturally developing my style of riding based on how I like to ride
In my initial year of skateboarding I had a naturally bad style. But i studied my footy with my homies and I could see like all of my ollies were rocket as hell. And re watching that footage and actually be able to point out the stuff I need to improve on was useful and made my style develop faster.
Also just rolling around and pushing everywhere u go will wastly improve your speed and style.
My transition looks stylish as fuck but everything else my arms go crazy and I look like I’m trying SO hard
4:17 that five o was hilarious😂
What if we all skated naked. Would you finally be happy then Mr. Hill?
i personally admire good skating (hard tricks etc) than the whole style part of it (outfits are cool but for me its weird when begginers wear very skateish outfits coz i am a begginer too and i feel kinda like i havent unlocked them yet , like i cant wear them before i get more exp in skating )
There is no good or bad style. Style is individual and unique to each person. The only style I would say could be considered bad is fake or forced style. That being said, every style is forced in some way, since you are forcing your body to move.
Be unique. Be yourself, and be comfortable.
There is definitely bad style
there is def bad style, i had bad style when i started skating, as i got better it finally came up with some friends of mine, and honestly i noticed in videos of myself my stuff not looking as good as my friends, they were honest with me and i worked on it, my body was very stiff and i was overly aggressive and forceful, i was able to tone it down to looking much better. interestingly when i did this, i was popping tricks higher and able to do things i couldn't before, like flip into grinds and slides. I think this is because i was trying to finish every trick to quickly to secure landing it, but once i let things go and float, it opened up opportunities.
Been working on my kick flips at 38. Just started again!! SYRACUSE NY
Haven't watched your yt in a minute, I love this multidisciplinary breakdown/synthesis style you've got going on.
I don't think of style as clothing. I think of style as flow and board control and trick selection and whether you skate aggressive and fast or technical or smooth or a combination.
And there's much more than that. To be honest personally I don't care what anyone wears. It's a form of self expression and should be separated from skateboarding.
And also there are many types of skateboarding styles. Vert, street, flat ground, transition, freestyle and combinations of those.
And more. Down hill skateboarding and mountain boarding and long boarding Now electric skateboarding and longboarding.
Also you can use different board shapes and that affects style.
Your so great John plz keep being yourself and doing what you do and staying so positive!! And like I literally mean that, you see these types of comments all the time on ppls videos but you are the one creator I personally actually feel confident in saying that about.
TOM PENNY is a perfect example. Same style till this day.
Dude what ever happened to grab your deck and go sk8 and have fun, wtf? I'm 46 YEARS young and I've been in the sk8 world since 1985 when I was 9 years, this is crazy, kids grab your 🛹 deck and go out and have fun and be true to you, don't get into caring what others think! ✌️ PEACE!
Haven’t been on UA-cam in soo long and been subbed for about 6 years already and now you’re at 1 million congrats man you’ve been great. To see you still here warms me and keep guiding the community
Damn
I learnt a ton of tricks on a diy rail just like yours. They’re great confidence boosters
You need to see the stuff Picasso was painting when he was 15. He's already done it all and then reinvented it.
FLARE = A road flare, or maybe some wide pants.
FLAIR = Style
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I’m trying to remember to film 🎥 more often because I feel like I have good style and have the basics clean, but every video I have is at the end of my sessions where the juice is gone 😅 idk sometimes I just lose track because I’m having fun. Definitely going to start filming more 🙌
Kids in Japan are landing the most tech tricks and are just stone faced while I’m over here doing 50-50s and getting super hyped on that
0:20-0:24 EFFIN GOLD 😂😂😂
Yup same goes for almost all sports. In Basketball you can have a higher shooting % and turn the ball over less but the kid with a sick cross over with flashy handles and a smooth looking jumper will be recruited more often. Style goes a LONG way in everything and I can’t blame ppl because I honestly like watching more esthetic things in general 🤷🏽
relaxing was my biggest problem for a while, finally toned myself down and it helped, and my skateboarding technically improved with this as well.
from my experience, just focus on learning. Learning and repetition will equate to style later. learning a fake steez might make it harder to learn tricks later so just have fun. if you're on a skateboard you already look pretty dang cool. Loved this video a lot, people really don't talk about these topics beyond the fact they exist.
I’m told my style looks like I’m not trying, but I am so hard believe it or not. I get popular at the park cause I got that STEEZ
For me it’s about just pushing my limits. Skatings about seeing what I’m capable of
I enjoyed this video John i've been wanting to start skating for UA-cam but I live in a small town in Colorado that doesn't have a skate park i have one which is about 15 minutes away I really wish I lived in a slightly larger town but its been great watching you over the years thank you for all the videos you have put out
Look at the setup Jamie griffin started with!
I would love to develop my style but unfortunately I live in a place where its winter for 6 months out of the year, also I have a knee injury and a collapsed arch in my foot so I'm lucky to skate once a month.
It also probably doesn't help that I'm the only skater in my friend group that's left, all the others stopped skating or moved away..
Solid video John! This is the style & length of videos we need 💪🏽
I just want to say,
Thank you John for these tips, they’re more important then most tips out there,
This will help me with my focus.
Thank you.
that switchflip backtail to reg looked way better than the backtail
Lmaoo funny you mention miles first. I grew up filming with that dude in sac. He always used to say hi to me at the park, even after he became pro. He’s a good dude.
Another thing a really good push denotes in the skateboarder as how long they been skating.
Interesting using Miles as an example. I can just remember Gary ripping on his style on Skateline 😂
Listen John. I know my style sucks okay? I skate very stiff as it’s the only way I truly feel comfortable attempting tricks. You ain’t gotta tell me my style sucks. I get it enough from my friends who I skate with (Who I also beat regularly in games of skate. But they still talk crap because of how my style is when skating)
Thanks for posting. Love your vids. Keep killing it.
style is just better, but yuto proves you can have both, personally my favskater is Carl Aikens mans style single-handly revived Chocolate
From the N-Men docufilm by James Sweigert: "skateboarding is not about how many tricks you know, it's about how cool you look doing the ones you do know." This from a guy in his 60's who has been skating street and bowls for the last 50 years.
John's T-Funk video. 🤣🤣🤣
Keep killing it John when we skating together??????
1:29 - Dissapointed you've lost the chance to put a clip of an actual Bluntslide
only style i want is yours, john, everything is so clean. fits, skating, art, everything. absolute inspiration
^
I'm a fan of the skateboarding culture and I care about the skill
I have experienced more “success” skating than most skaters I know because to me it’s just an art. I teach skateboarding after school classes, I focus on beginners. If you can push, ride, and skate around my class is sort of for you, but if you have never tried before I’m your man. I get kids who never skated before on a board for literally the first time. It’s a lot of fun coaching brand new skaters through the most difficult first few skills, balancing on the board, pushing, using their skateboard pads, falling well, staying safe, and some of the tips to having a good experience at the start.
I make good money running my after school classes, I plan on doing it for the next 20 years. I’m really excited at the prospect that as I get better the lessons I will teach my students will improve and I’ll be able to teach better skaters and help them advance further.
For me skateboarding is having my Animal Chin moment
When I was younger maybe 2-3 years into skating I started crossing my arms when I went for something. Had to STOP that shit I got clowned
basically just ride more then it will look more natural/feel more natural. and dont copy others style. just ride and yours will come out. Want better style? ride more. Want to ride more w out getting bored? push yourself and ride w homies.
I think the best style in any sport or atheletic undertaking really just comes from experience and that 10,000 hour rule....... Like you said style comes naturally
at the end of the day just be your self or whatever you want to be, judge less and DO more. If you dont free yourself will be harder to learn things and this is a life lesson.
Yo that switch flip back tail was pretty buttery 😌 also nice video as always
I feel like the thumbnail is aimed at andy shcrock 🤣
#4 instruction unclear. Now i have a board stuck up my butt
Chainsaw Man fit goes hard. Hope denji doesn't get manipulated by Asa
0:27 I have the same exact wheels he has in this shot!
Most underrated video I've seen today
I do the praying mantis when I nose manual!! Lol
Great video and I agree on all points but one. I don't think people smell the bull if you can't do anything technical. My brother, for example, has a very small bag of transition tricks but he has such a stylish bs piv and bs 5-0. I love watching them, he holds them so good and his silhouette looks class. Also, if you think about stylish skater like Jay Adams back in his heyday, in modern terms his skating lacks tech but he was one of the most stylish skaters of a generation. I know a lot of very stylish skaters who have small trick bags... Some people just develop style very fast and naturally and some never do, they can be tech wizards but will always look horrible, no matter what they wear or how hard they try.
Best thing to do is film yourself. Don't be surprised if you get disappointed. But that's the whole purpose is to see where the steeziness is lacking.
can’t wait for GH to say something about this
Has he yet? This video makes me die inside
Thats a great hoodie I love it.
This is a great message too. I been skating for a long time and still cant really do too many tricks so this makes me feel a little better haha
I can't believe you talked about style without showing us how to push Mongo! Unfortunately, after skating for 5 or so years, I was not able to unlearn how to push Mongo. RIP my skateboarding career.
Really good insight, I never thought of it that way
My friend told me that my kickflips actually like spin under my feet and it looks like it sticks to my feet or my pop shuvs are super high and i also catch them with my front foot soo. I guess high pop is my skatestyle
remember where skating came from . surfing. pure style. pure flow. skating is the son of surfing. style baby! its not that we can hit the layback snap. its how we executed it. lol dude dubbed me "style master cody" at the skatepark lmao. surfing influences my skating. i like speed and flow all in style haha i do agree that skate apparel to me is ehh. seems like more people dress the part then do the skating. its hot af but they wear the biggest jeans black hoodie beenie lol like what? i live in hawaii. skate in surf shorts cuz thats what i wear everywhere lol
I dunno John I don’t appreciate people that can switch flip back tail but can’t pump around comfortable. My ideal skateboarder is just an all terrain machine. Regardless of style.. Every soty is a good example of that. Even though Tom penny ain’t doing no switch fs flip on a vert ramp. Also anyones style and trick selection seems to be a great depiction of there personality.
This video is very humorous. Thank you!
I feel attacked
You be blunt, I'll be axle stall
"than an average looking switch flip back tail" *proceeds to do the absolute steeziest switch flip bs tail ever*
0:22 Tfunk
There is a Wave Riding Vehicles surf shop in Tokyo. THAT is reaching out.
This was very interesting! I like the content coming and hope you have the time and effort to keep it rolling.
Only just started to get clips at my local skatepark and realized I do tricks hunched with my arms extendo behind my back… sucks I can’t skate in 3rd person 😿
Its just therapeutic for me. I dont skate in a conventional sense, I just cruise. I put 60mm wheels on a 8.5 inch popsicle deck and pavement surf. Can I ollie? No. Can I do manuals and tricks? Also no. But ive enjoyed riding for years. I can hop down a curb and do an occasional 180 switch, besides that its all hillbombing and city exploring for me. And that's just fine.
0:20 heitor be like
Dude such a good video, the parallel in this and what it means to success in general. I don't even skateboard, but the message here goes so far beyond skateboarding.
Skate marketing 101
It sucks how much style influences how people perceive you as a skater. Jeff Dechesare is fucking unreal, does the most insane shit. But because his style is a bit weird, it's more difficult for him to get solid sponsors, and people are always chirping.
Buttery John Hill Backflip for the W
Link didn't work for the flat rail
Speaking of style, nice Chainsaw Man hoodie.
Hoodie is dooope
I try to imitate heitor da silva he has the best style imo
Yo John love the chainsaw man hoodie!
Snaps 🫰
Aint no way im spending 250 for a metal bar bruh
250 is pretty cheap I paid 500 each for the 2 I have. And I by no means have a lot of money. I just saved up.
wheres this video shot? texas?
Another great video John 🔥🔥🔥🤘🏻
the switch flip tail was cleaner.
outfits have always been part of it... always
"most skilled dancer" *shows charlie* NAAAHHH
3:30 i just dress well because it makes me feel better abt myself lol
What trucks do you use?
Andrew Arnold 👑
Gorgeous flip at 05:36 !
I wish i knew that much about skateboarding 😮
I appreciate the skill and talent of others not the way they dress
Me too!
@John Hill that's why I like watching your vids