The Superstitious Sailor: Atmospheric Anomalies
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- The dazzling northern lights, or the confusing nature of St. Elmo's fire, Atmospheric Anomalies did confuse and confound the mariner of old. But what were the superstitions behind these events, and how were they explained?
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I request a video on the “Revenge” or “Hermione”. Overall you’re a great channel and as a current sailor and a hopeful future deckhand on the Kalmar Nyckel I appreciate your education. I’m still new salt so it’s been super useful, especially since I’m from a port town with lots of history (and wrecks) these stories are fascinating. Keep it up!
And not a word about sundogs 😥
We used to put little green army men all over the nuclear engine room in my submarine.
A Master Chief found one and took it down. 20 minutes later we had an equipment issue. The Engineer officer gave us back the army man and told us to put him back where he was.
We always said a chant when we hid them.
Even if these superstitions are human mind games, they are still pretty fun to believe in and can really help put a worrying mind at ease.
What's the story behind that myth, also what if you had an actual soldier in the engine room. Would they have to hid aswell?
@@giantthesmall8722 not sure. Some submarines have a thing that porn always need to be playing in one of the officer staterooms.
We never have real soldiers on board but if we did they aren't nuclear trained.
We did the green army men too. Top Snipe had no issue with until the CO did an inspection and a couple of us had to explain why they were there and made us take them down. Later on in the day we had a major equipment casualty and were told to put them back up. Facing the doors obviously.
@@giantthesmall8722 It keeps the gremlins out of the equipment
ST Elmo's fire doesn't just happen to ships, it also happens to aircraft, when they fly though areas that are really electricaly charged, there was an infamous flight over Hawaii that experienced ST Elmo's fire when one of the valcanos erupted.
There was also a BA 747 which was flying over Indonesia where it experienced St. Elmos fire while flying through a smoke cloud and suffered 4 engine faliures, luckily the crew were able to restart all engines and land safely. It was speedbird 9 I think.
Ash hitting the windscreen
Didn’t BA flight 9 have 5 engine failures (one of the engines failed twice)
Also happens often with ice particles when they impact the skin of an aircraft at speed, creating a static charge. Happened to Air France 447 right before they went down. St. Elmo wasn’t with them that time.
Ball lightning has been said to roll down an aircraft aisle, angering those waiting on the snack cart, I expect.
HELL YEAH HE'S POSTING AGAIN! If you couldn't tell I'm pretty excited
Your not the only one!
I saw the green flash once. Turned out it was retinal damage from staring at the sun. Don't stare at the sun, kids.
Great Vid Narrator. Don't quit the boat gig. Although - "The Maritime Astrophysicist" does have a nice ring to it...
That dang ball of dancing flame made everything dark.
The superstitious sailor videos are my favorite. I love the old maritime folk lore. It's a great perspective on how people of the past thought.
Prince Charles, the heir apparent to the British throne, still swears to have seen the Flying Dutchman during his time with the Royal Navy. So did King George V, when he was still a prince himself.
As a Dutchman this pleases me to no end of course. The English might have coined some propagandistic terms as 'Dutch courage' and 'being in Dutch' during the Anglo-Dutch wars....but I like to think during the second Anglo-Dutch war especially we still put the fear of God into them...or the devil if you please :p.
Edit: Silly me for only now realizing you actually did a video on the Flying Dutchman once already! Huzzah!
Added note, would you ever consider doing a maritime horror story about the Russian nuclear submarine Kursk? Shoddy segway, it was salvaged by the Dutch Mammoet (Mammoth) company.
And to be more on topic, those that have serious considered and researched the idea of a devil possessed, ghostly ship of Dutchies, have come to concur that the most likely explanation is a Fata Morgana. As most sightings were made when the sea was actually quite calm and the night sky was clear. Two necessary pre-requisites for a Fata Morgana to occur at sea.
There's the phenomenon called superior mirage in which a picture of a far off vessel seems to be floating through the air above the water.
I like to think they encountered a rogue wave and just decided to full send over it.
Engine telegraph: >FLANK
It’s mentioned in the book thunder below-the book is about the USS Bard one of the most successful ww2 submarines
@@jacobnugent8159 the USS Barb crew conducted a flight test of a train with scuttling charges which is just the best fucking thing
There is also a theory that this was an indirect factor to the whole titanic disaster, as if this were the case, the iceberg would be hidden from view behind a false horizon, at least until the last minute. This phenomenon occurs during calm skies when warm air is suspended above colder air, usually from a cold water current, and hence this type is sometimes called a cold water current. The titanic had crossed from the warm gulf stream to the bitterly cold Labrador current just hours before the collision, so theres a chance that a mirage might have been what did the ship in. However, i myself am not certain if this was the case or not, it could have been, we might not know
I'm not a physicist either but based on the Quantum Physics for Babies book I bought my granddaughter, you did okay mate. Loved this, cheers..
So happy to see more of this series, it's always so interesting to get these insights into maritime culture.
My Papaw, a U.S. Navy vet, always said "Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky in the mornin heed the warnin." I've also seen the aurora borealis here in Tennessee, but it was just an erie red sky, all night long.
My old man is a Brazilian navy vet, told me the same thing.
Never seen St. Elmo's fire, yet, but I have seen some ball lightning.
Green sky is a sign of good luck coming your way. I've seen one and was slightly terrified, after all it happened simultaneously with a hurricane.
The house I grew up in had a view of the ocean and we'd often see green flashes. It's only after I moved away that I realized how rare it was and how lucky I was to see it!
I think anyone who's pulled on their foulies and gone on watch in a storm in the dark early hours of the morning can understand why sailors had so many superstitions and didn't want to risk anything that could possibly be bad luck! (Oh and I did do a physics degree and your explanation was on the money, doesn't necessarily mean that St. Elmo didn't send too if you want to believe that of course :-)!)
Normal people don’t understand how dark it is at sea on a moonless night.
Plasma is pretty interesting. It's based on ionizing gas, and the color changes based on the gas and how dense it is. (For example, neon is red - thus neon signs are red) Pecos Hank has a pretty fascinating video on the different colors of electrical discharge based on where they are in the atmosphere
The name from those 'magic foxes running across the sky' stuck and the aurora borealis is still known officially as 'fox fires'.
Also, never actually knew that Sami-people had their own legend about them. TIL :)
There's the classic "Red sky at night, sailors delight" thing.
As a commercial fisherman since 07 in the Bering sea that saying can go either way 😆🤣
"But for sailors, it was less superstitious"
That's a first
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I was a sailor in the Navy for a bit, I noticed that nearly every sailor story/superstition revolves around luck. Usually with things that bring or take away good luck. Seagulls shitting on the focsle? Good luck. Whales/dolphins swimming alongside us? Good luck. Seeing the green flash was something I've watched several people do both for the curiosity and for luck.
Love your stuff
Bioluminescence would be another fascinating event. Glowing dolphins riding the bow wave...
I've seen the green flash! It was right after I crossed the equator for the first time, great memory.
So glad you're back!!!
I wonder what they thought of 🌈? Really enjoyed this.
Honestly, I don’t know where you pulled the science explanations from
But they really work. They’re fairly concise and easy to explain.,
I can't get enough of these amazing videos. Thank you!
Great to see you churning out material. I love this channel.
I love this channel and the type of content so glad you are posting again keep it up👍💪
You know, I wonder sometimes how many of these superstitions were truly, seriously believed versus just…said. Like even today sometimes parents will tell their kids that “the angels are bowling” during a thunderstorm. That doesn’t mean we as a culture actually believe that, just that it’s a comforting tale we tell to make the sound less scary.
I was petrified of thunderstorms as a little kid. My mother would say "It's tge fairies getting the coal in & the lightning was them putting the light on first."
It really didn't help.
Then my Dad got me a science book all about storms. Written for kids with lots of diagrams I finally knew what a thunderstorm was. I was no longer afraid & to this day I love a storm. The bigger & louder the better!
It just goes to show that knowledge wins over myth every time! (Theists take note!)
@@Aengus42 That ending was pretty cringe
I used to be scared of thunderstorms when I was a young lad, my mum used to tell me that "it's just God moving furniture around in Heaven".
Thought I'd pop in to say that the Inuit, Yupik, and Iñupiat peoples do not like being called "Eskimo" and have been trying to spread awareness that it's a pejorative for them. Not everyone knows this and it's still a widespread term, particularly in more scientific circles, but it refers to peoples who would much rather be called by the names of their respective cultures! I've been really impressed with how you've covered Indigenous cultures and beliefs, which is why I point it out. Otherwise, fantastic video! I love the superstitious sailor series. ^^
This! My brief stint into forensic anthropology really made me realize how prevalent some racist terms are sometimes.
Literally no one cares if you call them eskimos or not.
I cannot stop obsessing over "The Superstitious Sailor" thumbnails.
Everyone knows that the Aurora Borealis is a portent of an unforgettable luncheon.
love these so much
You have a great sense of humor, and you make great videos, THANKS!
Superstitious sailor with heavy Scottish brogue: "Don't even speak its name!"
He meant the Mouse. Don't f%&k with the Mouse. 🤣🤣🤣
I look forward to your promising career change into astrophysics
Very intresting video, nice one
If you're inclined to bring back the Creepster for Halloween, than perhaps a good topic of discussion for him would be the Bermuda Triangle? Just an idea.
Yes! I've missed the Creepster!
Such an underrated channel
So cool!
I was a rhib coxswain 10 years ago busting drug smugglers of the coast of Panama. One mission was at night in a thunderstorm. ST Elmo was with me that night. So many things went wrong but I still went back to my ship as the sun was coming up with a boat full of drugs.
Also had ST Elmo’s fire coming off my antennas. You could see the plasma build up bigger and bigger and then bam a lighting strike and it would go away and build back up again. Funny story I thought the hills and mountains of Darien gap where storm clouds. I was full throttle towards the beach and only realized how close I was to beaching the whole boat going full speed when a lighting strike showed me the trees in the mountains. I stopped and could hear the waves crashing ashore. The boat we were chasing crashed on the beach and the runners ran. We collected the go fast and the contraband. I’ll never forget that night and I will never forget ST Elmo’s fire.
“Is the green flash a sign of your friend coming coming back from the dead to make more money for Disney?” ☠️
Re: St Elmos Fire. Years ago I was working in a care home - a large building that supported unwell people. The building had aluminium window frames. One day, during a large thunder storm, we all witnessed St Elmos Fire from the building window frames. All the residents and staff witnessed it.
The best bit was we saw it from the other side of the frame through the glass! It was nuts - very much like flames. It was flattish sheets of electrical discharge dancing on the flat metal surface of the frames. The sheets of 'flame' were around 20 inches high and were a blue/green colour. They danced like flames do on coals. There was no noises, no hissing, nothing.
Interestingly, no lightning struck the building or anything nearby. I can only guess that something big and with a large static charge passed slowly overhead and left an opposite charge on things it passed over.
I would never quit sailing! At, in or by the sea. Those mountain folk creep me out. Another great video. Thanks.
I love this series 👌🏻
ITS A GOOD DAY LETS GOOOOOO🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 (always way to happy when you post)
Anybody else singing "what do you do with a drunken sailor"?
There's this phenomenon that occurs in very frigid weather and it's that the Sun (either rising or setting) is reflected by the ice crystals in the air and it creates the illusion of there being two Sun "replicas" to its left and right; it's called parhelion. Sometimes it can be pretty bright and create a halo with *four* Sun replicas to its sides, and above and below it.
All the photos I have seen of parhelion are taken from land, so I don't know if it was very common or even possible to see one at Sea, but if it was, I wonder what kind of beliefs and superstitions it stirred in seamen, if any at all.
New favorite phrase, "boat driver."
I have zero knowledge to shipping or nautical terms. The extent of my knowledge comes from watching muppets treasure islands. The way you explain and tell the stories is extremely entertaining and informative. Thank you
In Canada, we bo longer use the word "Eskimo" to refer to the Indigenous people of the North. Most prefer to use Inuit instead.
Hey! I just wanted to thank you for your videos. They've brought me much joy, especially recently, as my medical waiver for Navy entry was denied : (
lol, I haven't heard that tune since I was 5 years old in Kindergarten many decades ago. 'What shall we do with the drunken sailor early in the morning'. our teacher taught it.
Could you explain the phrase "Red skies at night, sailor's delight. Red skies in morning, sailors take warning."
Maritime Horrors I like your utube videos are awesome
I didn't learn about the green flash until the pokemon sun and moon anime
Great video, reminded me of fata Morgana, would love to see a video on that sometime
Two things
1. Wonderful content as always
2. "Again Boat Pilot."
Knowledge is power!
My husband and I love to watch for the green flash when we take our seaside holidays.
The layman's explanation of St. Elmo's fire is that things get charged up and pointy bits will bleed off the static electricity. They intentionally do that with airplanes to prevent them from building up a static charge as they rub against the air they're flying through.
Thank you. My favorite thing in the world is the araura borealis.
Your a very clever boat driver. 🙂
You do a great job explaining scientific phenomenons I think you should become an astro-physicist.
It's strange you cant see it inland. Can you see it on the coast?
Not necessarily seen by sailors but mainly being seen by those on the beach or the bank, but I find Fata Morgana pretty fascinating
So when do you think you could cover the Sobral Santos II? I’ve only ever heard about it once and I’m curious to find out what happened and how it could have been prevented.
I AM a PhD Physicist, and you did great :)
Imna go with the mystical firefoxes.
Today I learned that St. Elmo's fire isn't named after a dude named St. Elmo and I don't think I'll ever recover.
I was hoping you were going to give some more weather indicators like Sirius clouds (those very high wispy clouds) foretell “serious” weather. Or red sky at night, sailors delight; red sky in morning, sailor take warning.
Luling ferry disaster next? 👀 it's not well known
And here i am, FIRST TO COMMENT! But seriously cool video.
No to the last question. Mostly because we may lose this channel.
I thought this would be more like all of the weather mnemonics sailors had, like "Red sky at night, sailors delight". Stuff like that.
Maritime Horrors me and my cousin are going to a Swap meet in September 11 Sunday morning at 8 am in Milwaukee 2022
Last time I watched one of these I was ankle deep in cold mud trying to work on a clapped out bulldozer at work
“Should I quit my sailing career to become an astrophysicist?” *Flashbacks to the April Fools Videos *
quite interesting while i am not a sailor per say i do find sailor superstitions to be quite fascinating i myself am thinking of learning how to boat next summer
What about the mermaids actually turning out to be manatees. I have to say that would have to be some seriously drunk pirates to mistake those two.
And apparently they were so drunk they’d get into the water and bang the manatees… At least try to bang them!
Could do with the Creepster back to debunk this science..... pah !🤣
And there's nothing you could have done, shown, explained etc. to convince 95% of those people otherwise. From within their frame of reference you'd be batshit. Electromagnetic fields..... yada yada
Anything on fata morgana in sailor superstition?
Electrons from the sun get accelerated by the magnetic field, and crash into tiny particles which charges them up with energy and to return to their previous state they ditch energy after a while which creates light in this case.
Do these still apply in wartime? I don’t recall reading about any of these occurring during the maritime battles of the world wars.
Yes, but people tend to have other things on their minds in battles. Plus if there are bits of metal spraying around it can help discharge the static.
Maritime Horrors what is your hobbies?
I am a sea fisherman since 5 year old... I have seen the green light twice.. And some other spectacular things.. The sea can be beautiful and savage.. God is a awesome creator of all.
yes, it is pure hubris to think we truly understand God's creation.
@@marhawkman303 I agree, imagine trying to understand the lovely pathogens created by our dear lord to kill babies. Hubris
@@davymckeown4577 Heh, trying isn't hubris... it's when people try to pretend they know everything that's hubris.
@@marhawkman303 lol, trying to pretend is hubris but trying to understand isn't? Science doesn't pretend to understand everything, that's why it works.
@@davymckeown4577 Did you even read my first comment? I said "It is pure hubris to think we truly understand God's creation."
Yes, understand.... past tense. It is Not the process of learning and seeking answers, but rather the idea we already have them that is hubris.
As the word puts it: "Science falsely so called". (It's in chapter 6 of 1 Timothy)
Of course that word used in the Book is a Greek word that means knowledge in general, not what modern people call "science". But most of them are misusing the word anyways.
most of the "Follow-the-science" crowd don't even know what they're talking about. Their brains meltdown if you actually discuss science. Almost like holding up a crucifix in front of a vampire.
What is the song in the background?
Some SpongeBob theme
Why is that cat so angry?
Did those girls take his beer?
Superstition is fascinating and it isn't confined to humans. Here's Prof. Richard Dawkins with a very brief explanation of the how & why of superstition.
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This is why endeavours with random rewards, like gambling, fishing, sports, warfare and, of course, seafaring are riddled with superstitions, talismans, omens and lucky underpants!
when I was on schoolies I tried to seen the green flash, took my friend swimming at 4:00 in the morning... Did not see it. oops
Have you played Call or Cthulhu?
In Canada, the word "Eskimo" is no longer used to refer to the Northern Indigenous People. They prefer to be called Inuit People.
why has the aspect ratio of your videos changed?
Is that your vessel?
I don't think physicists are meteorologists either.