Black people destroyed R&B music being vulgar. Singing the P*ssy word was its downfall. No Romance!

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  • @All.Natural.
    @All.Natural. 12 днів тому +62

    The CEOs of these record companies want vulgar and gangsta music. They stopped promoting groups like De la soul, Tribe called quest, and Arrested Development. They don't want black unity and positivity, They wont promote that!

    • @vincentwelch8577
      @vincentwelch8577 11 днів тому +7

      And what's sad is it's alot of positive music they just don't promote it you got guys like Big KRIT, Joey BadAss, and ladies like Rhapsody groups like Little Brother there there they just get no bump and the music is good

    • @KaoManager
      @KaoManager 10 днів тому

      I have to somewhat disagree. Business is about profit. Profit comes from consumer purchase. It is as simple as that. When people decided to move pass Tribe, the industry moved pass Tribe.
      I call this wool socks in the summer theory. Why would you sale wool socks in the summer thinking you would make the same amount of sales in the winter?

    • @reyandy4851
      @reyandy4851 9 днів тому +2

      ❤❤❤ absolutely correct! Who owns these labels?

    • @KJango804
      @KJango804 9 днів тому +1

      @@KaoManager i agree to disagree. This would be true if these places didn't buy and inflate their own product. The music business has been dying because people don't wholly consume anymore. Many labels have money into other products that are involved in the biz of party music and prisons. All the negative aspects they make money off of. There is a lupe Fiasco interview telling how much they tried to involve themselves in his finances and the influence of the record based on their share of the profits. It was more about control rather than money. Marketing is king and if you have partnerships with these companies the only thing you need is time and how long is the campaign. How are you getting the music out there (syncs and commercials and many small time ads) And just because an ad isn't circulated on mainstream channels doesn't mean its not getting played.

    • @TrayvonSmith-r6s
      @TrayvonSmith-r6s 9 днів тому

      "The Letter That Changed Hip-Hop" -UA-cam-

  • @Lanae8199
    @Lanae8199 12 днів тому +43

    The record labels which are usually not owned by black people are largely responsible as well.

    • @GreatlinClarkFan-c5h
      @GreatlinClarkFan-c5h 12 днів тому

      Non-Black People have been making money off of black people since the days of slavery.
      Race has nothing to do with making money and believe you me, if they could make a buck off of you, they'd use you up (not you specifically, but just people in general).

    • @nobelwarprize
      @nobelwarprize 12 днів тому

      Bingo! We don’t control the media.

    • @asunmusicc3331
      @asunmusicc3331 11 днів тому +1

      The consumer generation is 🗑️ now.

    • @ralphfaison5992
      @ralphfaison5992 9 днів тому +2

      It's not the labels. Record labels are a business driven by the consumer. In today's world the "record labels" A&R department is dead. Because there are fewer people actually purchasing music you will see fewer new artists. Because most of the clicks are young people that only know hip hop those artist are who the record labels will promote. New R&B artist have a hard time getting noticed. It all starts with the consumer.

  • @M.J.504
    @M.J.504 16 днів тому +48

    I agree. I’m 21, and prefer to listen to 70s, and 90s rnb/soul.

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 10 днів тому +2

      Me?
      I'm into 40s-70s
      I'm 65 soon to be 66
      My daughter also loves oldies
      She was born in 1995
      She likes singing oldies

  • @MrTway88
    @MrTway88 17 днів тому +85

    Todays vulgar music is also over sexualizing the children. It's sad. We point fingers at everyone/everything that works against us as a people, just to turnaround and do things that contribute to our own destruction. It's not all of us, but it's damn sure too many of us.

    • @MrKelzKelz
      @MrKelzKelz 16 днів тому +8

      It's not us at all, it's the industry look at R&b and Rap and the internet. Poor folk do what rich folk pay them to do. It's all in an effort to paint us a type of way and to detach the youth from true love by objectifing each to sexual part, like a toy.

    • @paulacampbell7710
      @paulacampbell7710 16 днів тому

      Please go listen to some of my music @kembavee songs such NAIJA LOVE , NO GUISSE NA, BLOW MY MIND, AMAZE ME LUV, MEANT TO BE, FEELINGS, LOVING THE WAY YOU LOOK AT ME and more. I’m on all platforms. I guarantee you’ll love my music . I’m an independent artist and entrepreneur I produce my own create my own rhythms write my own lyrics

    • @defiantintellectual1501
      @defiantintellectual1501 16 днів тому +1

      Agreed.

    • @kingmaafa120
      @kingmaafa120 15 днів тому +1

      Lil rt Atlanta 😮

    • @MrSteviethegreat
      @MrSteviethegreat 15 днів тому +7

      Yeah, I’m not good with stuff being so open on the radio. When I was growing up, you could play the radio and your kids could just listen to it. I think part of the problem now is this much more difficult to shelter our kids from what we deem inappropriate.

  • @arabionjames9290
    @arabionjames9290 16 днів тому +95

    Todays R&B, music isn't our music. I don't know who is it for, the story lines, are non black.

    • @fbacryptosoldier
      @fbacryptosoldier 15 днів тому

      juuz juuz juuz juuz juuz

    • @kojoefante
      @kojoefante 13 днів тому +6

      Please . Wake up . I bet you’re trying to shift the blame . But usher is as detrimental as young thug is to hip hop . Cheating etc etc sleeping with fandoms etc

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому +1

      Songs about cheating aren't new. Howlin Wolf was talking about it way back. ​@@kojoefante

    • @pretendok6925
      @pretendok6925 12 днів тому

      Because so call black Americans do not have control over the lyrics they sing.

    • @TEEPEE7
      @TEEPEE7 12 днів тому +3

      SO MUNI LONG , BRUNO MARS , TREY SONGS , AND PLENTY MORE THAT'S JUST A FEW. IM SORRY BUT THIS IS R&B

  • @divasamai2251
    @divasamai2251 12 днів тому +26

    This is killing the dating scene!!! People are hooking up and not having serious relationships. I think r&b really fell off when neo soul vanished. Jordan Sparks and Chris Brown duet was beautiful! Songs like “no air” is just a sprinkle now a days.

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 10 днів тому +1

      I like some 80
      Like
      FIND 100 WAYS
      Music was cool.until the 90s

  • @GreatlinClarkFan-c5h
    @GreatlinClarkFan-c5h 16 днів тому +61

    I grew up on The Stylistics, Rose Royce, The Delfonics...come on man.
    These young bloods don't know what they had in The Oldies.

    • @glennii9442
      @glennii9442 14 днів тому

      I agree. The young black people of today don’t know their identity. James Brown, Marvin Gaye, and many others made great music which was entertaining and thought-provoking. Today’s music is sexually provocative and it strives to degrade our community instead of unifying it.

    • @ricorogers9319
      @ricorogers9319 13 днів тому

      Yeah righ

    • @pretendok6925
      @pretendok6925 12 днів тому +1

      Rose Royce? You mean Rolls Royce? Or you created another car?

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому +1

      There was also oldies that had a bit of raunchy lyrics in them as well.

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@pretendok6925Rose Royce is a band.

  • @officialdoctv
    @officialdoctv 14 днів тому +44

    Yep... Took the romance outta black music

  • @jazzkatt7083
    @jazzkatt7083 13 днів тому +15

    Great video. Had me rollin’. Yes, you’re right. R&B became a race to the bottom. Sex is everywhere but intimacy is hard to find in the culture.

  • @starbwoy133
    @starbwoy133 12 днів тому +17

    You were born in the 90s and feel like today's r'n'b is garbage! Imagine someone like me, born in 82, and grew up in the wonderful era of 90s r'n'b. Music today has no soul, and the heart is missing! Social media, today's trashy celebrities have killed the idea of "romantic love," and now it's seen as corny or simping behaviour if a man expresses deep love for a woman. It's killed off the idea of "black love" and therefore damaged the black family unit. There's a reason such vulgar and disgusting music is played in mainstream.

    • @joehewlett897
      @joehewlett897 11 днів тому

      Facts man I just turned 38 and grew up off that music sneaking listening to my moms and pops cassette tapes and it just takes me to a different blissful place listening as an adult ,nothing better than when I wake up Monday and Friday mornings on my off day grab my coffee talk to my granny on the bench outside then get in my truck and just sit my my coffee and a joint AirPods in and nothing but 90’s R&B ,those artist put their heart and soul into that music .That music helped me learn how to approach band talk to women in my early teens

    • @markellwilliamswhite3715
      @markellwilliamswhite3715 11 днів тому

      I just said the same thing to somebody the other day exactly all that you said today's music of r&B and hip Hop is making women look as men as objects and vice versa and no respect towards each other and it is considered lame to talk about love and caring and writing music about actual quality to it can I hear so many females talking about they don't want a man expressing his feelings to her like a princess and treat them right because its lame and weak like the stupidity of that and this generation is ridiculous.

  • @garybradley912
    @garybradley912 13 днів тому +9

    I was just talking about this the other day. I'm also not a big fan of cussing and explicit words in R&B music. Totally agree with you, Geneva.

  • @sp123
    @sp123 17 днів тому +35

    “We started having to compete with rap music, which is extremely explicit - extremely ... When you’re trying to compete for space on a chart or in a playlist, and these are the things that they’re playing, how do you find your way? How do you even get into the conversation? And so, our language has kind of had to evolve to be competitive.” - Tank, five-time Grammy nominee.

    • @MrKelzKelz
      @MrKelzKelz 16 днів тому +10

      Why would they have to compete with rap. Did country have to compete with rap? So they changed to compete with rap and now it's no more r&b or rap that sound worth a whoot. It's a conspiracy to destroy black love. Think of 20 year olds now, not to mention azartine.

    • @pretendok6925
      @pretendok6925 12 днів тому +2

      The record label companies control the lyrics, not the artist.

    • @MrKelzKelz
      @MrKelzKelz 12 днів тому +1

      @@pretendok6925 how you control the lyrics but not the artist?

    • @Mr.Jaquaveon2k
      @Mr.Jaquaveon2k 12 днів тому +1

      ​@pretendok6925 Thats a lie, they can't tell you what to put in your music.

    • @MrKelzKelz
      @MrKelzKelz 12 днів тому +1

      @@pretendok6925 controlling the lyrics and not the artist is like saying controlling the sink without controlling the water. The purpose of all that shady stuff they do is to control the artist. If they didn't control the artist the artist wouldn't used the lyrics. Idk maybe I missed the point.

  • @sol_era1
    @sol_era1 12 днів тому +9

    I agree 100%. Born in 89 and only listen to 70s music. Modern music has 0 feeling

  • @kuji-in-deed369
    @kuji-in-deed369 12 днів тому +7

    We’ve all heard the stories about the music producers pushing the artists to make their lyrics more vulgar and degenerate over the years. The artists sold out and took the check. It’s that simple. It’s up to parents to explain what’s really going on with the music that is being made today.

  • @altonmckenzie8587
    @altonmckenzie8587 12 днів тому +9

    Issue is the categorization "urban music" the clumping all black music into a single category. Beginning of the end and now it's over

  • @Thadopeera
    @Thadopeera 11 днів тому +9

    R&B died when it started crossing over into rap music and vise versa. All through the early 2g we had rappers and R&B doing albums and tours together. That killed the category for rhythm and blues because all the music sounded pop or hiphop

  • @andrrru9
    @andrrru9 17 днів тому +18

    Putting on a Brian McKnight cd definitely sets a mood.

    • @arieslove6144
      @arieslove6144 14 днів тому +2

      Him and Joe 'Jonathan butler, Kenny lattimore ' will dowing, Keith washington 'seal 'craig david, maxwell 'lenny kravitz, still doing their thing

  • @KOMET2006
    @KOMET2006 15 днів тому +20

    Speaking as a Baby Boomer of the early 1960s who grew up with music very much a part of my life, IMHO R&B music began a precipitate decline in the early 1990s. From the late 1960s and into the 1980s, R&B music spoke to me on every level. Musicians of the caliber of Brick, the Temps, the Brothers Johnson, L.T.D., Peabo Bryson, Stevie Wonder (who became for me a musical god in the 1970s), Minnie Riperton, Slave, Angie Bofil, SHALAMAR, LUTHER, Deniece Williams, Rufus with Chaka Khan, Chic, Brainstorm, The Isley Brothers, Atlantic Starr produced some of the most beautiful, relatable, and poignant music I've ever heard.
    Nowadays R&B is vapid and not very interesting. And Hip Hop is not my cup of tea (prior to 1993, I didn't mind rap, which I thought would be a short-lived fad. WRONG.)

    • @thedroidish
      @thedroidish 15 днів тому +5

      To myself, Smokey, The Supremes, Diana Ross, MoTown, Do-Wop and Delta Blues is soooo much better. I'm a 49 year old white boy.

  • @gacaptain
    @gacaptain 15 днів тому +21

    Oh the 80s early 90s. When you could play uncensored R and B and Hip Hop at a family picnic or around any audience with out it being inappropriate for alot of people.

    • @pretendok6925
      @pretendok6925 12 днів тому +2

      80's and 90's music unscensored? Shows you don't know the history. In the mid 80's music started to be scensored. Guess you never heard of 2-Live Crew, and NWA. Gangsta Rap.

    • @NorthPhilly-zr7xc
      @NorthPhilly-zr7xc 12 днів тому

      ​@@pretendok6925that's rap we talking about r&b songs

    • @tokyod5069
      @tokyod5069 10 днів тому

      I'm afraid to put my 95-year old Mama in an uber for fear of violence for that very same reason. Don't play that shit around my mama.

    • @kryptism
      @kryptism 6 днів тому

      ​@@pretendok6925go back to the 70s with Blowfly & Millie Jackson!😁

  • @ivanreid9511
    @ivanreid9511 14 днів тому +13

    Today's music ain't no longer R&B,Even early Hip-Hop wasn't like today's trash you hear over the radio.

  • @Loyaltee55
    @Loyaltee55 17 днів тому +26

    I really started actually listening and understanding the lyrics when I got older and when I tell you RB in the 90s left something to the imagination 🤔

    • @Mirror_of_the_Soul00
      @Mirror_of_the_Soul00 16 днів тому +5

      Great quote. What needs to be pointed out though is Rap wasn't always like that. It began as disco. Then it was about fun and partying. Around the time of the Rodney King riots rap was very REVOLUTIONARY.
      Then the small hat executives came in to turn those energies in a different direction and that's where West Coast rap came into the picture... NWA, Dr. Dre, Snoop, and it changed the entire industry..... and then affect3d others like RnB

    • @prettyugly
      @prettyugly 14 днів тому

      Very true, although the 90s, specifically the mid to late 90s, is where and when things started to turn in my opinion.

    • @romello4913
      @romello4913 13 днів тому

      💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯

    • @Mr.Jaquaveon2k
      @Mr.Jaquaveon2k 12 днів тому

      ​@Mirror_of_the_Soul00 NWA started because of a message had nothing to do with executives

  • @AndrewSanders-d1p
    @AndrewSanders-d1p 11 днів тому +4

    It's like R&B is trying to be drill rap today. They missed the whole point. R&B was never meant to be ratchet music it was always about elegance. As someone born in the 60's you are on point. It is tragic what you are saying about how gen z regard relationships as simping. This is the mark of a society in decline.

  • @beaujac311
    @beaujac311 13 днів тому +10

    Just the other day I saw this comment on UA-cam " R&B is beta male music". That right there tells you how misinformed some people are about life let alone music.

    • @Themikebolton1
      @Themikebolton1 10 днів тому +1

      These days, people will label anything with so much ignorance and misinformation. Calling R&B beta or calling men simps just for loving a woman.

  • @kin-green
    @kin-green 15 днів тому +6

    The rise of rap and the fusion of more hip hop/rap elements turned R&B into rap-lite.

  • @zaimayamusic
    @zaimayamusic 15 днів тому +11

    Yup. I'm also so embarrassed that I played a role in promoting this music as a DJ and radio host. At some point, I started playing edited versions at my gigs etc because the music was too vulgar 🤷🏾‍♀️ Also black people need to be mindful of the media and how it has always wanted to position us at a deficit of some sort. Music is one of the easiest ways to do this.

  • @NoSimping
    @NoSimping 14 днів тому +8

    Today’s music is a reflection of the times. Just like the music in the 80s and 90s. You don’t hear as many love songs cause people aren’t falling in love like they were lol.

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому

      And "these hoes ain't loyal" is something the commendable guy found out way before the music that is currently being made was a thing to that extent.

    • @lazarousmuzandu2568
      @lazarousmuzandu2568 10 днів тому

      True

  • @glennii9442
    @glennii9442 14 днів тому +7

    Great message! The big corporations who own the record companies and radio stations have destroyed basically all types of music. There aren’t any wholesome and quality music available on any modern genre of music including R&B, hip hop, pop, rock, and country. Contemporary Christian Music used to be a great alternative from secular nonsense. Unfortunately, the corporate record companies have taken over that genre of music and softened the message. There is no great music available except for a few independent artists. It has been going downhill since the 90’s.

  • @pabloicemoore888
    @pabloicemoore888 14 днів тому +8

    you are exactly on point , its the over aggressiveness in today's songs that is the mood breaker or turn off

  • @SonOfTheRighthand7
    @SonOfTheRighthand7 15 днів тому +9

    Ain't no real R&B no more. A lot of this new music is headache music.

  • @DoctorD-2024
    @DoctorD-2024 15 днів тому +12

    Thank you for speaking truth about the degradation of our music. We are a kindred spirits because I have a 70s love songs playlist title "Love Ballad" by LTD. You are right old school music left something for your imagination when it came to romance, example: I Only Think of You on Two Occasions, That's Day & Night (The Deele). I am subscribing to your channel because I appreciate young people like yourself paying homage to our past and musical history that made the whole world sing! I think the degradation of our music was by designed to sow divisions in our community between men and women, and young and old. Just a thought. Thank you.

  • @kanaandahpromiseland1626
    @kanaandahpromiseland1626 15 днів тому +9

    The people who own these media outlets block the real musicians and encourage lift up and exalt the ones who go with the pollution

  • @guesswho217
    @guesswho217 16 днів тому +7

    She is 1,000% correct. R&B music definitely ain't what it used to be. Now although I do miss the production and instrumentation of classic R&B compared to today where every song sounds like the last one, which always sounds like it was done on a laptop, what I really miss most is the great song writing, the emotions, the vulnerability and the passion that R&B love ballads possessed. No one is writng anymore or coming up with meaningful, rememberable lyrics. Everything is poorly written nowadays with absolutely no imagination. All roads lead to seggs in today's R&B with no scenic route. There's no clever build-up to it. Now its a shuttle straight to the gutter.
    I used to DJ events a lot, including weddings before the pandemic. For like 3 weddings straight, I talked to the bride-to-be about what she wanted her wedding song to be and she would choose a song I never heard of before from a yt artist. I couldn't understand it, until one day it dawned on me that the R&B songs that are popular today aren't appropriate for a wedding. Luther Vandross Here and Now is over 30 years old. Lets Get Married is over 20 y/o. Who wants their first dance song to be 'Come Thru'? There have only been 2-3 R&B songs in the last 15 years that's suitable for a wedding, so couples getting married now have to go to other genres for a song to play in front of their families and friends. You can't even play an R&B song for a graduating class anymore like they used to. We have really lost a lot of ground in R&B's dominance as a music for romance.

  • @RaheemSaladin
    @RaheemSaladin 16 днів тому +14

    No lie it's destroyed ..R&b use to make you look forward to love and how men talked to women made you feel like they were talking to you.
    I am an old school music lover now and forever I am a music lover as well today's music sucks .... it's destructive

    • @YOUR-WORD-IS-YOUR-BOND
      @YOUR-WORD-IS-YOUR-BOND 15 днів тому

      Men would sing to us biological women...

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому +3

      The lover boy also was getting cheated on with the guy that just wanted to get his off. That was also in the lyrics of those classics as well.

  • @robakin1225
    @robakin1225 13 днів тому +7

    At almost 60,I remember the listening to the music from the 50s,60s,(Parents,Aunts,Uncles etc)and growing up with 70s,80s,90s and even some early 2000s music and it wasn't this socially engineered degrading,lack of self awareness mess going on now,Reaganomics,the crack era and Cointelpro and pushing this type of non music was/is a part of social engineering. Let's get back to Love,Marriage,Family making music,it's still out there we just have to promote it.

  • @shawnleveston1972
    @shawnleveston1972 13 днів тому +5

    A lot of RnB artists curse on songs because they CAN’T SING !

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому +2

      Or maybe because we aren't living in such a picture perfect world?

    • @notreallyafamousartist695
      @notreallyafamousartist695 10 днів тому

      @@rgw1380rwyea that literally made no sense, I can understand autotune lmfao but cursing doesn’t make bad singing better☠️☠️☠️

  • @MrTrock19
    @MrTrock19 14 днів тому +5

    Thank you Sister for bringing up this topic, the record labels ask them to be as raunchy as they can when writing these song, it all about the Benjamin$😢

    • @HypnoticHollywood
      @HypnoticHollywood 14 днів тому

      Record labels are in the business of supply and demand. If blacks didn't demand it the labels wouldn't supply it. But black folks are allergic to accountability so ya'll look to blame every one else for your own dysfunctions.

  • @Jamesm334
    @Jamesm334 11 днів тому +1

    I AGREE COMPLETELY!!! And she is speaking the TRUTH!!!

  • @lavellhall7650
    @lavellhall7650 16 днів тому +9

    In case you're young folks don't know what she talking about she talking about this r&b group LTD with Jeffrey Osborne "Love Ballad" a few years later George Benson did a remake of it Loved his version as well

    • @KOMET2006
      @KOMET2006 15 днів тому +2

      George Benson's version of "LOVE BALLAD" came out in the late 1970s. I was a freshman in high school when I first heard it played on the radio in the Spring of 1979.

  • @gacaptain
    @gacaptain 15 днів тому +4

    I agree totally with you. Especially the part about music in the past being sensual and sexy without being explicit and vulgar. I was a teenager in the 80s and some of the sexiest songs ever were made back then without using a single explicit reference or profanity. Also, there was no same in a man being romantic and women weren’t trying to imitate men sexually like a lot today are. Jkir

  • @Lonelyeco
    @Lonelyeco 15 днів тому +5

    Definitely agree. The innuendos made R&B better. It was more sensual and not sexual. Not saying there wasn't any out then. Just not as promoted.

  • @simplyymonica5585
    @simplyymonica5585 15 днів тому +3

    I grew up on a lot of older music and I agree with everything that you said.❤

  • @defiantintellectual1501
    @defiantintellectual1501 16 днів тому +8

    I wouldn’t have guessed you had an old soul because you look very young. I like your sense of humor. Awesome 😎. I too don’t like R&B music with curse words in it. I use to buy Walmart CDs for my R&B music because they only sold edited music. Also to keep it real regarding R&B artist in 2024, it’s less about talent and more about marketability. I bet streaming music vs. going to the concert most artists don’t sound like their recorded music. Auto-Tune and voice modulation helps out a lot of non-talented artists in today’s era of Rap and R&B music. SEE: Tyla’s “Water” song. Anyone could’ve sang that song and had the same outcome she did, with the same promotion she had for it. I only listen to 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s R&B…. After that R&B takes a less talented, more vulgar turn for the worst. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Darealkingrichard
    @Darealkingrichard 12 днів тому +5

    Shes 💯 % on almost everything. Few pointers from a 41 year old married(been together 15 years) black man who does make ALL types of rap music. 1) Record labels prefer to see division in the black community & negative r&b is one way to do with that. Women mainly ruined r&b,they are the largest consumers & focus. If they not rocking with it,theres no INCENTIVE to make it for men or women. 2) R kelly is literally the greatest r and b artist of all time. Yes he is mister vulgar at different times in this career, but he actually has a lot of "pure love" songs in his catalog,like more than you can imagine. He also has the most range of any R&B singer artistically! R&B is coming all the way back until WOMEN change

  • @ajdynamo6866
    @ajdynamo6866 11 днів тому +2

    There are a lot of women who Also make fun of guys for this kind of stuff. Calling them soft.

  • @JRozelle713
    @JRozelle713 14 днів тому +1

    Geneva, I appreciate your honesty/passion, and dope content ESP showing your love for the group H-Town. I will share this episode with the homie GI. Keep up the good work sis 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @bigworldsmallroom3823
    @bigworldsmallroom3823 11 днів тому +2

    Dang u talk tht real girl I feel lik I’m n the wrong generation as well 😂 I was born 92 so I kno exactly how u feel

  • @PoeticBassChannel
    @PoeticBassChannel 15 днів тому +1

    glad you posted. good post.

  • @brucecunningham4311
    @brucecunningham4311 10 днів тому +1

    Thorough observation young sister. I agree with you 100%. There is artist out their producing good R&B and hip-hop music. You will have to spend a little time searching for the good music. The music industry in my opinion is just another tool of communications to control and mislead the weak of mind. I'm cut from the early cloth of the 60"s, 70's, 80's. I was able to write many love letters because the lyrics were about real love and respect for our black women. In the beginning of hip hop it was all about the party and meeting the girls. Now rap has decline into the darkness.

    • @yoahanna220
      @yoahanna220 5 годин тому

      60s, 70s, and 80s was it💯

  • @rblu7916
    @rblu7916 12 днів тому +1

    It's really ridiculous.
    Can't get through a love song without cussing.

  • @howardrussell3919
    @howardrussell3919 15 днів тому +4

    I actually haven't listened to the radio in years. I couldn't name one band that's rolling these days. Thank God for Pandora. Several of my stations are James Brown, Barbara Mason, Santana and Rafti Pagan. Now that's some serious music! I did hear a recent song by a group called NX Worries which is yet another Anderson Paak band. How many bands does this Brother have?!? Anyway, the song had Paak, Snoop Dog, and October London. It was really good. Chris Stapleton and Santana have a smoorh grove going and so does Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. So I guess there's some decent stuff out there, but this isn't the first time I've heard the crappy music argument.

  • @rarespecies83
    @rarespecies83 11 днів тому +2

    Music now is perfectly aligned with the temperament of the youth. Broken homes equals broken music.. create more 2 parent households and the music will reflect that.. play your part

  • @BklynZu
    @BklynZu 7 днів тому +1

    Honestly with this generation would they even appreciate R&B or would they call it Simp music

  • @Bangs_Theory
    @Bangs_Theory 16 днів тому +3

    I'm not sure people understand how important this topic is and why we should be afraid as a community/society.

  • @lovetotheworld2522
    @lovetotheworld2522 14 днів тому +4

    I love music too. I'm listening the Platters, Nancy, and Johnny Mathis. My Parents music. Hate the new stuff. I love Maze too.

  • @JudahTribe-lt3ur
    @JudahTribe-lt3ur 14 днів тому +5

    I go back to r and b where the whole family listen to the same music. Today’s music is trash!

  • @KevofThes
    @KevofThes 11 днів тому +1

    I really miss the vibes and mystique. So Anxious by Ginuwine is essential R&B that built connection from the chorus. Ice Box by Omarion has a great cliffhanger. Like Slow Down - Bobby Valentino, there's no 'desire' in R&B anymore. I miss the desires, pop up cliffhangers and energy.

  • @RudyTheInternetGod
    @RudyTheInternetGod 11 днів тому +1

    I love when Hip-Hop and R&B get together🙏🏾🌹

  • @demarrjordan9292
    @demarrjordan9292 11 днів тому +1

    Yeah for awhile *RAP begin to perform better commercially. The No Diggity assertion is hilarious. There's a Jaheim feature on a Trick Daddy song from around 2006...I'm in love w/sex but the lyrics are a repulsion. The 2012 to 2014 era was a combination of vulgarness and emotionlessness... The "Out your feelings" era. Anyway I could chime all day on this subject. But You're expressing so many valid points. You're historically factual and so well aimed to be born in '95. Love talks like this. Would love to attend a show with you #RnBnation

  • @t.m.kmedia1136
    @t.m.kmedia1136 14 днів тому +1

    You are very wise and insightful. 😊

  • @gacaptain
    @gacaptain 15 днів тому +2

    I agree totally with you. Especially the part about music in the past being sensual and sexy without being explicit and vulgar. I was a teenager in the 80s and some of the sexiest songs ever were made back then without using a single explicit reference or profanity. Also, there was no same in a man being romantic and women weren’t trying to imitate men sexually like a lot today are. Just saying

  • @tomkobe2245
    @tomkobe2245 17 днів тому +4

    😂😂😂😂😂😂 omg!! Last part took me out cause it so true this music is not the same anymore

    • @troyhall4039
      @troyhall4039 16 днів тому

      You got men talking to women like their homeys in the streets, bruh what you mean? Where we start doing this

  • @jamspringz
    @jamspringz 11 днів тому +1

    It's what's centered by mainstream and radio stations and R&B as a whole. Since HipHop it's been pushed aside. Good R&B exist. It's just has to be intentionally looked for because the new comers are not being platformed.

  • @d.michael372
    @d.michael372 12 днів тому +1

    R&b is alive and well, but it’s not on the mainstream stage anymore. We need it front and center again!

  • @JasonSims-u2m
    @JasonSims-u2m 7 днів тому

    I agree with you. I don’t like today’s music. That R&B today is called Pop R&B.

  • @SpaceGhostBiz
    @SpaceGhostBiz 14 днів тому +3

    To answer your chicken or egg question I honestly feel like the state of mainstream R&B is the result of late stage commodification of music in general. Nowadays songs can barely be longer than 3 minutes and the production has to be watered down, generic and catchy as well as match a certain tempo to fit what the streaming platforms, the algorithm and social media prefers. Now this is great for bubblegum pop music (which is probably why pop is making a comeback) but our music has always been more thought out, more complex and more soulful. R&B in particular traditionally THRIVES off of bridges, layered production with a focus on instrumentation, creative arrangement and slower tempos. The streaming era standard completely KILLS that, so artists of today that want to make "real R&B" are operating at a disadvantage by default. But with all of that being said I agree that the main problem is the WRITING. The lyrics of today are downright awful. Folks aren't writing from the heart anymore. There's a lack of soul in popular music nowadays. But I feel like even that is a result of social media. Once artists started focusing on writing catchy IG captions instead of real heartfelt LYRICS, things started going downhill from there.

    • @twilight14971
      @twilight14971  13 днів тому +1

      You make some very valid points, I think all of it ties in together. It's not one thing, it's the sum of all these things.

  • @sylvester7320
    @sylvester7320 11 днів тому +1

    PEOPLE DON'T DANCE TOGETHER IN THE CLUB NO MORE, SLOW DANCE WHAT IS THAT.

  • @misstoi
    @misstoi 15 днів тому +9

    Record company executives destroyed Hip Hop and RnB music. They pay artists more money to write negative and explicit lyrics. If you don't, they don't promote your music. The public has to make a demand on record companies to change.

    • @silentsir2446
      @silentsir2446 12 днів тому

      Anything to avoid personal accountability

  • @OntheWingsofDoves
    @OntheWingsofDoves 13 днів тому +1

    I am old enough to Remember our music from the 1970s Motown, before rap music and crack showed up and destroyed our neighborhood.

  • @thedroidish
    @thedroidish 15 днів тому +9

    MoTown, Do-wop, Jazz, Delta Blues,...is soooo much better,...I'm an old whyte man!

  • @ferrellslim
    @ferrellslim 15 днів тому +4

    Today i was at work listening to SZA cause the babes were playing. Then someone a little bit older started playing Donnell Jones, a very stark difference in the sounds, lyrics, vulgarity, etc. more power to both artist nonetheless

    • @beaujac311
      @beaujac311 13 днів тому +2

      I'm an older gentleman who has been out of the music loop for twenty years. Until then I used to be current with music. Last year when SZA won Grammy Awards for best R&B music, I decided to give her a listen because I had never heard any of her music. I listened as long as I could to the song that won the Grammy. I found the lyrics too overtly sexual for me to enjoy. Blatantly sexual lyrics like that should be left to hip hop.

  • @nobelwarprize
    @nobelwarprize 11 днів тому +3

    I don’t think dating patterns or vulgarity has anything to do with this! You have to understand who controls and owns music. Basically like rock and roll as well jazz, the controllers destroy these genres. First they profit off your culture then they destroy it and finally “white wash” it. See Elvis, Jimmie Rogers, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber, just to name a few.

  • @jaybethatdude
    @jaybethatdude 10 днів тому +1

    She's talking straight facts, today's music is trash.

    • @yoahanna220
      @yoahanna220 5 годин тому

      I don’t even call it musik

  • @ronaldboone6508
    @ronaldboone6508 12 днів тому +1

    I like this young lady. You are 100% on point!

  • @atyourbest5385
    @atyourbest5385 12 днів тому +2

    Just because it's Ol School don't mean it's not vulgar. If you listen carefully to a lot of 80's, 90's and early 2000's R&B the lyrics where just as nasty but the melody and production of the track hypnotized you.

  • @whenniceguysretaliate5619
    @whenniceguysretaliate5619 10 днів тому +1

    Big Facts but...
    Women Determine the Culture by the Men they choose to respect and stay faithful too.

    • @twilight14971
      @twilight14971  10 днів тому

      @@whenniceguysretaliate5619 I could easily say men determine the culture by who they date, marry, and have children with. 🤷‍♀️

    • @whenniceguysretaliate5619
      @whenniceguysretaliate5619 10 днів тому +1

      @@twilight14971 Then please explain why Nice Guys Finish Last, Foodie Dates, and Single Motherhood.

    • @whenniceguysretaliate5619
      @whenniceguysretaliate5619 10 днів тому +1

      @@twilight14971 If that were true, then Nice Guys should never finish last.

    • @tipsandtricks6071
      @tipsandtricks6071 10 днів тому

      ​@@twilight14971you just gave her facts and she totally ignored you. This is why sisters are done(passport)and r&b is done. We can't sing to sisters that aren't feminine and don't value good men.

  • @laurentpeterson5276
    @laurentpeterson5276 13 днів тому

    Thank you for making this. R&B and harmonizing used to bring the family close. Dru-Hill, 112, Jaheim, SWV, EnVogue, TLC, Aaliyah, Genuine, ...gone. No one is singing a catchy tune anymore.😔

  • @arabionjames9290
    @arabionjames9290 16 днів тому +1

    I am a new subscriber blessings and good will to you from New York City.
    I like your message my sister.

  • @jimmykrackcorn6902
    @jimmykrackcorn6902 15 днів тому +14

    No women destroyed R&B supporting the artist like August alsina and it went left from there

    • @jasondawson92
      @jasondawson92 14 днів тому

      No Sisqo messed it up with thong song

    • @TheBadDoll
      @TheBadDoll 14 днів тому

      what’s wrong with August Alsina? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 12 днів тому

      You might have a point. That old sugary sweet man from yesteryear is looked upon as a lame for the most part. The guys who are viewed as an edgy problem are the guys who are doing their numbers. Bad boys have been trending for quite some time now.

    • @lisawicks8205
      @lisawicks8205 12 днів тому +3

      Yeah, ok blame women… they weren’t the ones who started with the gangsta, rap in the early 90’s, talking about sex, and calling women every name imaginable

    • @Mr.Jaquaveon2k
      @Mr.Jaquaveon2k 12 днів тому

      ​@@lisawicks8205Guess what..women are twerking and dances to those same lyrics from then up until now ..

  • @drebone1986
    @drebone1986 11 днів тому +1

    It's lost it's way because there was supposed to be a changing of the guard and since we've become a microwave society it's mostly the mixtapes that changed it. Also while these artists are nonstop pushing out singles twice a month they're also trying to crossover with other genres and bringing in that pollution with them. We've had crossover before but it was with other r&b artists and maybe some gospel but nowadays if it makes money it'll get dragged into r&b afterwards like gangsta rap, country, pop, emo, etc... There's nothing wrong with those genres but it's not that baby making music that only pure R&B can give you. So mixtapes to stay relevant and crossover pollution are the two IMHO

  • @markellwilliamswhite3715
    @markellwilliamswhite3715 11 днів тому

    Absolutely right i said this same thing to my mother cant even listen to modern r&b and singers they wanna make music like the rappers talk about the same things they rap about.

  • @AbronHawkins
    @AbronHawkins 15 днів тому +2

    Record labels have been making billions on music with the label “Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics/Content” on the cover of the album

  • @joehewlett897
    @joehewlett897 11 днів тому

    That music back then was magical ,they put their heart and soul into that music , I just turned 38 this month as masculine as they come and swear on my daughter last Friday I was off work in my truck chilling in driveway AirPods in joint fired up and I just put it on a 90’s R&B playlist ,first song that played was don’t let go by Envouge ,when that guitar started and that beat kicked in ,then as soon as they started singing I burst into tears of joy and nostalgia childhood imemories ,and crying even more now as a 38 year old adult male who’s had these experiences and been in the type of love that these artist passionately sang about ,like that time period in music will never ever be duplicated it was pure magic ,just talking about it yeah I feel another 90’s R&B chill session coming this next off day ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥

  • @ContextReallyMatters
    @ContextReallyMatters 11 днів тому +1

    Fans have a lot to do with it. I saw an unsung with Glenn Jones and it was stated that the fans chose R. Kelly and his sexually driven music over Glenn Jones romance driven music. I think it's a reflection of the times. Women were less concerned with love and more concerned with love making.

  • @geminicaezar2957
    @geminicaezar2957 11 днів тому +1

    I can't even believe that you said "R&B" in 2024..R&B died right after 10 years of being mixed with hip-hop..the 90s is responsible for the mess we gotten today.

  • @2KGrind09
    @2KGrind09 12 днів тому +1

    the parents are seperated & not playing love songs around the house. Kids are not growing up not seeing love in the household, just hearing thier mom complain about men.

  • @TrayvonSmith-r6s
    @TrayvonSmith-r6s 9 днів тому

    Shalom House of Israelites!🤎🙏🏿

  • @jaykaynum5569
    @jaykaynum5569 15 днів тому +1

    Still a strong year for R&B albums. I have 24 R&B albums I've enjoyed in 2024. 2019 and 20/22 & 23 were a little bit disappointing(no top 10 album list those years)

  • @AreteG
    @AreteG 12 днів тому

    Damn Geneva, now I gotta make a video reply. Good topic! Subbed

    • @twilight14971
      @twilight14971  12 днів тому +1

      @@AreteG ayeeee welcome to the channel 😎

  • @cdshawn
    @cdshawn 11 днів тому

    Me and my wife noticed this a long time ago, in the mid-90s, that Keith Sweat want to be a rapper and then all the other good R&B people slowly but surely wanted to be rappers

  • @C-Lyfe85
    @C-Lyfe85 12 днів тому +2

    Ma'am, the record companies destroyed it.
    That's why R&B is extinct.
    It was no accident, it was intentional.

    • @yoahanna220
      @yoahanna220 5 годин тому

      They destroyed rap musik too, which used to have a revolutionary message back in the 80s

  • @kryptism
    @kryptism 6 днів тому

    After the 2000s, like Brandy said, R&B is dead! Most now have more rapping in it, than singing!😮

  • @jbwuzhere6819
    @jbwuzhere6819 7 днів тому

    They say that you sing about what's in your heart...well this generation doesn't sing about love they sing about sex. "There will come a generation that has no love in their hearts".

  • @BKAY718
    @BKAY718 9 днів тому

    The record label destroyed the R&B music not the artist…I worked as a A&R for a major label in NYC..for over 23yrs.it’s called NEO SOUL…

  • @williamjackson8752
    @williamjackson8752 12 днів тому +3

    Bring Back Real R&B Stop with the Vulgarity and the end your face juvenile lyrics, get real musicians and writers. Make Music your church mama ain’t embarrassed to her in her house or out of your car. R &B was more Popular than Country but can’t play it now because having to explain to your kids what word means and constant profanity minus real singing😮

  • @BGinsz1709
    @BGinsz1709 11 днів тому

    The labels made the changes. Not the artists.

  • @Bigstevesmb
    @Bigstevesmb 10 днів тому

    I'm a 70's baby and grew up listening to the 70s 80's 90 and early 2000's R&B. R&B is not the same anymore. I could say the same thing about Hip-Hop music. I love music. I listen to Classic R&B and Classic HIp-Hop more often than today's R&B and Hip-Hop. 90% of the music I listen to predates early 2005 .

  • @rodman7224
    @rodman7224 11 днів тому

    We are old and this music is not for us our parents went thru it and now its our turn.

  • @qunicy9498
    @qunicy9498 10 днів тому

    Enjoy your opinions , topics. So true.

  • @troyhall4039
    @troyhall4039 16 днів тому +3

    Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics due to the nature of this program viewer discretion is advised!!!

  • @rogerhigginbothamh2875
    @rogerhigginbothamh2875 9 днів тому

    Thank you for a wonderful video. Yes the music has went off the deep end. These artists are questionable about their beliefs in black people and what is true love. There was a art form to attract a real woman not a girl. Now its trick or treat. Out there. A Woman didn't need to show all of her assets. It was the way she carry herself and classy dressing. That made a man lose his mind. Now its all out there leaving nothing to the imagination. Yes they have ruined Black music today. It will come back. The mindset has to change and it is. You and other young people have already started the process. Peace and one love 💘 💕 ❤