You are right that Claudia is not an obstacle for Louis and Armand's relationship. Lestat is. So with killing her and putting the blame on Lestat, he kills two birds with a stone. Puts Louis against Lestat and fucks up Lestat for 'leaving him' by making him watch his kid die.
@@MavenoftheEventide I mean, they are upping the Lestat's trauma conga line up to eleven in the show. Allso, there was a shot from trial in one of the trailers with him red-eyed and gasping and a slit of sunlight disappearing. So I'm guessing that's our magnifying glass and he'll watch Claudia die in this version. 🙃 Let's cross our fingers they keep that scene where he tells Armand to go and bury himself after all this shit, though. 😂
I feel like Claudia is a obstacle in Armands mind though yeah? He mentions her implosion is inevitable and Louise will always use her as an excuse to not live his life. Armand wants Louis to himself he cannot have that entirely with Claudia in the picture and knowing she's a ticking time bomb?
obviously it’s truth until proven otherwise, but i think there’s a distinct possibility that armand is lying that louis asked him to erase his memories. armand is giving me very “will do anything and i mean *anything* to not be abandoned” vibes.
But erasing Louis's memories would make that worse! Louis was ready to abandon him, then went through this stuff, then at the end decided to stay with him. Armand erasing that just resets Louis back to the beginning where he was bored of Armand and ready to go. It would be BETTER for Armand to have Louis remember everything.
hm, yeah that’s true, and i did not take into account that louis decided to stay with him in the end before the memory erasure. part of my problem is clearly struggling to remember key details lol. the other part is definitely me hardcore struggling to accept changes from the books, though i do try because i like the show enough to come back every week.
@@MavenoftheEventide IF the memories themselves are correct. We saw how he "suggested" another explanation for Daniel in the 70s. So and so found you in a hotel/crackhouse?. The brain can fill in the blanks. What if Armand did that as well to Louis, recreating this fight and reconciliation JUST in case he remembered it later? Most of Armand's explanations so far seem almost designed to make him look soft, devoted and specially pitiful, the kind of toxic boyfriend that goes: Why are you doing this to me after all I've done? When you want to break up... could the memories be a part of it as well?
@@MavenoftheEventide Unless, however many days later, Louis had changed his mind again. (Or, perhaps, if Louis only said what he felt like he needed to say to get Daniel out of there alive-and didn't actually mean it that he would stay because he'd actually or genuinely reconciled with Armand.)
Gods, I HOPE it's revealed Armand is, as he was in the book, the true architect of...what's to come. Don't get me wrong, I love the actor and what he does for Armand but...making Santiago the big bad just seems like they WANT to make the relationship with our bois less messy. And that's the thing! These vampires ARE MESSY AS FUCK. And that's why we read these books over and over under the spines of the books gave way. We Stan messy vamps in my household.
I think Armand has been lying about everything. The way he comes in to correct what Louis says. The more Louis talks, the more clarity his mind has and then Armand quickly slips in and corrects him. I think the only retellings that are fully trustworthy are whats from Claudia's journal. Just the fact that Louis asked to see the ripped out pages that were supposedly mutually removed, Armand still hasnt allowed him to see them. In 73, Louis mentions the "gremlin", which he only seems to have said because he was under heavy drugs. So that tells me Louis has seen and knows more about Armand than what is being told, but he only remembers it when mentally jarred. My final thoughts, Armand isnt really anything that he appears. He is probably more like his book identity, but this is the way they play that character out in live action.
I love watching the Maven perform/describe the Chronicles for at least 60 thousand of her fans. She's very good at it and seems to truly enjoy herself. Bravo, Maven!
I swear as much as the darling Maven says Armand would have no need for it but he and Daniel hooked up already. The only people that seem to not know are Daniel and maybe Louis. Those scars on Daniel's neck look too marked even if he's one of the few people to live to tell the tale. The show has also established a pattern for Armand and gave him ample reason to entertain a curiosity through his argument with Louis. That Daniel humored and got so much spirit out of Louis is notable. Armand would let him go but he'd seek him out to figure out what made him so impressive. Armand stalks, observes, then starts throwing breadcrumbs before full-on seeking an audience. Through interacting with him, I can see how Show Armand falling for Show Daniel given they contrast. Armand's a sad, black hole of a mess. Daniel's a big ball of light and positivity. Despite having an open relationship Louis would feel weird about Armand having a regular paramour and probably react badly. Remember that's what bothered him about Lestat. A frequent visit to the same person means emotional investment. Louis reacting badly would give Armand plenty of reason to be careful so Armand choosing to let go of Daniel and erase his memories so as to not feel compelled to seek him out doesn't sound ridiculous. It would explain why he felt he had to hide as another identity for as long as he did. Another clue is that they're vampires. Ok so he wanted to eat Daniel. Well, so did Louis. Armand wouldn't have to feel ashamed about his biting Daniel as it's what they do. Daniel wouldn't have freaked out or been traumatized as he wanted to leave. Fought until Armand hypnotized him. That means Armand's hiding something more and took precautions because Louis is infamous for his temper in the series when he gets his flares. Edited: Typos. Typing fast can suck sometimes.
Is it possible he was referring to Lestat? I agree more than likely in the context he is referring to Louis but for some reason I considered the possibility he’s talking about Lestat.
@@caseyhart4999 I’m inclined to say no. Just because they’ve been painting Louis all season (especially in the last episode) as being completely unstable and the warning was about Louis in the books as well. Interesting theory though.
@@TheNightFlower yea I figured that is probably the case. I’m just trying to think of all the different ways they could continue the story beyond season 2 and I feel for them to continue they absolutely need Lestat to make an appearance in the modern day and have Daniel finally get his perspective on the interview. He DID say in I think episode 3 of this season “I really gotta meet this guy” in reference to Lestat.
53:12 - I don't know if we can completely discount the imprisonment. Its subtle but he's shaking - very Daniel-esque with the shakey cigarette smoking - and his eyes are red as hell. He's extremely agitated AT BEST. They were clever only showing his face through a reflection but... In the brief glimpse we had of him, he absolutely did not want to be there.
I will say despite 2022 Armand's comment about the play, it is very clear from the direction, performances, music, and cinematography that both Armand and the show itself is treating that speech with reverence (as they should, it is an amazing piece of writing elevated by Ben Daniels' performance).
If anything, it may have been a meta!clap-back against viewers of the first season who criticized the book quotes as being tacky/cringey, by having Louis call B.S. on the accusation.... also by positioning it as an early model of a wildly popular production[ or whatever]. Like, obviously, it wasn't actually bad it was just experimental and boundary pushing and ahead of its time and would go on to prove all detractors wrong-or, at least, that's what I personally would presume the takeaway was likely meant to be. But, without asking the show's creators themselves, who really knows for absolutely sure!.
I don’t know. There are certain things I have to see come to life from the book.
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During the cafe scene when Madeleine was speaking to Louis about his love for Armand, she was really talking about Lestat, in my opinion. Louis had previously said "I love you" to Armand, but he couldn't ever bring himself to say it to Lestat because he was terrified of losing him. Since the last time he said those words and truly meant them, it was to his brother Paul. However, he played it off. Louis has shown a lot more affection towards Armand than he ever did with Lestat.
Maybe the twist is Claudia gets to live this time? Which I only say because I want it to be true, but also because they made a point of stopping her diaries while she was still alive. Wouldn't the more melodramatic way to end them be her death...unless she doesn't die! lol, a girl can dream.
I wish she was vindicated in the series. I doubt it, but it would be a cool change in the writing as opposed to the “meh” changes that I feel haven’t done the books justice. Plus, does every female vampire character need to be sexually assaulted or threatened with it? It’s really disturbing they went that way to “modernize” it. :/
This episode was pretty good. Assad Zaman continues to kill it in the role. I was thrown by.....whatever the heck....that accent is Justin Kirk is doing; but still overall a good episode. I enjoyed the Claudia/Madeleine scenes. Roxan Duran is very very good. That ending though....
I think Claudia attraction to men vs women can also be explained with just her age. As a young vampire at season 1 she was the teenager older men seemed weird and she didnt even think of women. But now even tho shes the same visually she lived through war etc. older people dont seem so weird. if she feels adult and the girl makes her feel adult she might have relationship with her. The dress she makes her can be like -oh with her im no girl im a woman and she just didnt have this situation with a man.
Fun theory... Lestat surprises Santiago by becoming a witness for the defense. He blame himself for everything (and we find out Claudia didn't just lie about no dreaming in her diaries. She lied about a lot of things). He wins a 'not guilty' verdict from the audience, but its too late. The sun comes through the magnifying glass and sets the theater on fire with Claudia, Madeleine, and the other supporters vamps inside. Louis is saved by Armand and he believes Lestat died in the fire until 1977. (I know this won't happen because of the promo pictures of Louis setting the theater on fire, but hey, Just throwing it out there).
So the interesting thing is Louis has a temper and also can set things on fire now with his powers. I have a feeling that maybe Louis the one who kills Claudia and everyone else accidentally and maybe Armand saves Louis but fails to save anyone else … then messes with his memories so that he forgets it but every time he goes into a drug fueled state, he starts to remember it and that’s what Amanda is protecting him from it’s why Louis tries to kill himself after telling the story to Daniel and having that big blow up… That ends by him constantly repeating Claudia‘s name😊
Armand thinks he'll get Lestat, but Lestat pardons Louis. A bit miffed over it, Armand keeps Lestat in the basement... forever, and takes back his Louis. Flash forward to the modern day and we series finale with Lestat's breakout. New series, the Vampire Lestat season 1. Hence "no" renewal.
@philipjay2099 That’s literally exactly what I’ve been thinking!!!! No clue why in that moment, but that exact same thought just suddenly came to me, during the scene where Armand & Louis were fighting in the apartment in the 70s (right before Louis ran into the sun).
45:30 - The implication is that Armand must have lied to Louis in Paris about what the choice was, just to set Louis up and lure Louis and Claudia and Madeleine unsuspecting into the coven's trap. But, you know, at what point do you start to question _when_ the lies actually are or aren't happening?
I really hope that Lestat is not the main villianfor Claudia and Madeline. Lestat and Louis both said the time the 3 of the had together was the happiest time in both their lives. Lestat and Louis (Louis more) regret and frequently think of Claudia
i don't think we're supposed to buy armand's excuse that he was just doing what louis asked when he deleted his memory from 1973. daniel certainly doesn't. like oh no...the gaslighter is gaslighting again....who could have seen this coming 😂 anyways idk if its much of a crazy twist, but my money is on lestat crashing dubai in the present day in the finale. im also....reserving judgment on lestat's role in the trial. he could be pissed just bc he's in paris again and he hates it there lmao. i think they're winding us up to think lestat is enacting his revenge...hell, thats what dreamstat told louis he'd do once louis was finally happy again, in s2e1. but from interviews, cast has stressed that dreamstat is all louis's self hatred and doubts. i think this is going to be a fakeout. lestat may appear genuinely sinister in the trial but i think thats going to be colored by armand's manipulation. and we'll have to wait to s3 to hear lestat's version. (and sidenote - i don't hate armand at all. assad zaman deserves a fucking emmy. i believe him when he says he's doing all of this for love. love...is just another monster in of itself.)
Yeah, the line delivery was just a bit iffy, not the acting, but just the way that Armand is saying things. He said that Louis asked him to remove the memory... and then IMMEDIATELY pivots to we both removed Claudia's diary pages... That's suspicious. It's a really really abrupt turn in the conversation to try and deflect away from the fact that he was asked to remove the memories. Louis eventually circles back to it but yeah...
@@jamiedoe6822 I mean from what book readers have told me there are some things that do line up as being the truth between Louis and Lestat's version of events... And they have told some of it.... so some of what Louis is telling Daniel IS the truth... But some of it isn't faithful to the books... And so a lot of people are hoping it's a lie and not just an adaptation change... But we won't know for sure until season 3 when they tell Lestats version.... But I mean even Lestat's version will probably have some lies sprinkled in. So basically you can guarantee that pretty much everyone on this show is going to be lying at some point, probably.
i think if NOTHING has been the truth....sorry, that would be so boring and the show would be actively wasting our time if they pulled that. claudia isnt unbiased herself, but we do have her corroboration through the diaries for much of s1 lestat's racist and abusive behavior, etc. it would be incredibly cheap to retcon that away. tv lestat can be a worse person than book lestat and thats ok, lol. but i do think armand is lying about a lot more than louis is...we know he left out gabrielle entirely in the little backstory he gave daniel. thats big enough that cannot be an adaptation change imo. i don't think armand is evil, but he also doesn't have a reason to tell daniel the truth, and he can justify any action if he thinks it'll help him keep louis. so, imo, the trial is going to be suspect bc this is the great wedge in the loumand relationship, but also a time louis presumably chose armand over lestat. i expect armand to be hiding the full truth from louis in order to ensure louis keeps making that choice.
@@happyquesadilla When I say nothing, I mean we cannot know which parts are true when ever we are solely relying on Louis or Armand. I am assuming we will not know until the third season what happened. I think we will get more eye witnesses like say Lestat. The diary is more reliable but, as Louis points out, we don’t know what parts are missing from the diary. We are relying on Armand.
I cannot lie, this episode left me a bit flabbergasted. If Madeline can feel Louis, wouldn’t Louis and Claudia been able to ‘feel’ Lestat near them and know he’s not actually dead? Do you think the writers will keep this “ability” or will they just eventually drop it when it’s not plot convenient? As for the twist, a few weeks ago my head was brimming with theories, but seeing how things are developing now, I incline more with what you said, Maven. I feel like they’re gonna make Lestat the big bad, the true puppet master of the season, instead of Armand. And later on, this version (Louis and Armand’s) will be retconned with Lestat’s version on season 3/4, if they ever happen (hopefully they will, I’m crossing my fingers 😭). I’m afraid I no longer have nails to bite for the last two episodes, please send help! 😂😂
I think its pretty damn clear Louis "felt" lestat and was pretty positive he was alive in every other episode.... His "lestat" projections are him feeling him.
@@spoons250 I get your point. But didn’t Sam and the rest of the production made it abundantly clear that whom Louis sees and feels is ‘’Dreamstat’’ a projection of his guilt and not the actual Lestat. Because if what you say it’s true, why’s Claudia never been able to “feel/sense” Lestat, she is after all his daughter and fledgling, wouldn’t she be able to see his projection as well with all the demanding emotions? If Louis was certain his projection was indeed Lestat and that he was alive, why would he go to Roget? How could Louis bid farewell to the ‘feeling’ of Lestat, and have the projection disappear if Lestat is latent somewhere? I would think that rather than live his best D/s life with Armand, he would be on edge knowing Lestat could pop up and expose both him and Claudia before the coven and get them killed. You have to remember “Dreamstat” threatened Louis. That’s why I don’t think he actually felt Lestat alive, but more like he is constantly battling his demons and siphoning them through the image of Lestat. Also the way they (Louis and Madeline) describe this “feeling” of maker/fledgling is entirely different from what Louis experiences with Dreamstat.
9:35 - I don't think that Louis hates theatre, he admitted in the first season that he loved it and just pretended to dislike it due to his tough guy persona. But now theatre is a constant reminder of Lestat to him, so it makes sense why he wouldn't be very partial to it in the present.
You are right but i d rather to be killed by other vampires than to be shaved and ashamed after the liberation and be accused to have "horizontally collaborated"
I can’t imagine what the big twist is. I would love to imagine that Claudia somehow survives but I don’t think that is it. It would change so much about what makes Louis such a tragic character.
I just saw the trailer for episode 7 and I’m convinced Lestat is not there out of his own volition. Just seeing him actually in the trial… he looks so drab and miserable, sure he could be hurt by what Lois did BUT if he really organized a whole stage trial in front of a live audience… you would think he would be more theatrical about it, after all we just saw him episodes ago joyfully jumping around in full stage make up while on a play Maybe he wouldn’t be happy this time but like… deranged I would expect, specifically if he set it all up himself, not depressed and wearing a dark suit. My theory is that we’re going to get the whole play and Lois will be convinced that Lestat planed the whole thing and threatened Armand to get away with it… BUT in present day Daniel is going to question the whole thing, the questioning is going to make Louis realize it doesn’t make sense… and “surprise” gaslighter Armand reveal. Turns out Armand has been changing A LOT of Louis’ memories, they get away from him (somehow) and now they realize the book can still not be published because Louis had accidentally spewed god knows how many lies… and there’s only one vampire that can fill in the blanks, set up for season 3 Now my insane crackpot theory for the twist is that actually Armand has had Lestat trapped in their own Dubai apartment all this time. After all, the one way he can be sure Lestat will never come back to patch things up with Louis is if he knows where he is ALL the time. Then they don’t even have to change sets for season 3, it can literally proceed immediately afterwards, maybe with Armand tied up in his little chair or something for extra banter potential. Alternatively Claudia survived. I don’t even know how they would make this one work, but it sure would be a twist and one hell of a hook
@artemiswolf4508 So with you on Armand having Lestat imprisoned there in Dubai….I’ve been thinking the exact same thing myself! And yeah, I’ve also pondered any possible storyline in which they could pull off a Claudia’s actually still alive twist! But yeah, I just don’t see it ever working beyond the cheap shock value….it just couldn’t ever work for the long-term plot, or Louis’s characterization, imo.
Omg!!! What a episode. I am so happy that they put Claudia in a yellow dress like in the book. My hubby ask me why I was excited because of a dress and I told him about it in the book. I can't wait to for next week.
The speed at which i jump to these videos immediately after finishing the episode can only be described as superhuman. Perhaps, even vampiric? Bwahaha I own the night and such, youre the best! 😁
I find it interesting that DreamStat told Louis he’d come to kill him when Louis was finally happy and that’s exactly what happened. I also thing the agent from Talamasca is referring to LeStat when he told Daniel he should fear “the other one”.
I love these comprehensive reviews with references to books and other stuff, it's much better than your average recap! But do you have a link or something about the fact that Claudia had a deleted scene with a female victim? I can't find anything by google
No, I heard about it from my friends who were on set playing background extras when they filmed the scene and know the actor who was cast to play the female victim.
Considering that we saw the book published in the show, or behind the scenes maybe this all is just Daniel reminiscing and that he’s already been turned by Armand and is now opposite of Lestat, who’s ready to tell his version.
I'm maybe thinking Lestat could make everyone think he's there to serve the trial against Claudia and Louis, but as a the wild card that he is he could flip and actually OUT Armand there in public as the mastermind behind ALL Louis troubles in Paris, him dividing Lou and Claudia as much as possible, having them be one place so the other vampires could enter their apartment to get evidence, all to kill Claudia and so he could have Louis to himself they could leave and Santiago, who helped in the plot, could then keep the coven & theater as the new leader...?
I don't know. I think they are planning on having Armond be the master manipulator. In the after episode segment, it is mentioned that the moment Armand seems to suspect that Daniel and Louie remember, he starts to plot how to make everything turn his way. I do hope that that's where they go with this. I think it makes the character much more interesting.
this show's twists and turns has me reaaally worried for how they are gonna treat marius when/if they eventually add him as a character. he is already highly misunderstood and hated, which i really don't understand given his actions are really not much different from a lot of other characters. i am afraid they're gonna strip him of all his nuance and make him a big bad, which would be really unfortunate because he's such a rich and complicated character. i guess we can only wait, but i am not very optimistic im ngl 😭
I’m soooo afraid they’re going in that direction, as a hardcore Armand x Marius shipper I already get that vibe with the whole forced prostitution element added to their relationship that wasn’t there in the books, and the way Armand is clearly meant to be traumatized recounting his time as Amadeo… Ugh I just hate it, I really do think we’re supposed to see Marius simply as Armand’s 1-dimensional abuser in the show, I’m hoping it doesn’t pan out like that but at this point I think it will. 🫤
@@lillyk.265 i'm worried for that too. with the way they have so far made armand a much more sympathetic character compared to the books. and the pimping him out comment, i was like yikes. marius is flawed, absolutely. all of the vampires are. but theyve given louis so much grace by taking away his being a slave owner and erasing his romance with claudia. they've given armand a lot of grace, lestat... not so much, they made him more aggressive. and i feel they will strip marius of all his moral ambiguity and his very humane loving side to please the new fans 😬
If they make it to the “Queen of the Damned,” I hope that they don’t age Akasha’s vampire years down. And I hope they take advantage of all the details within the book, which could make the TV series go for a long time. I’m very interested to see what they could do with Akasha and Enkil’s years when they first became statues. Hopefully, they make it to TVL cause that’s when the story gets more interesting.
Okay so regarding the big twist that wasn’t in the book, I have ZERO idea how that could work or make sense with what we've seen so far but hear me out - I think the most unexpected twist they could do that would be a huge change from the book would be to have Claudia survive somehow and then come up with another reason why she's not in the present era that would have to do with Armand's machinations. (Again, not saying it would make any sense or that it would be good, but it WOULD be truly unexpected.)
13:23 That’s what happens when you invent a new power every week. And why it’s not a good idea to introduce too many abilities. Inevitability you’ll write yourself into a hole where characters have to take stupid pills or a contrivance needs to be created. Either way it’s a trap that writers should avoid.
10:56 - To be fair, the implication may have been all along that the little detail slippages and why they were bothering Louis so badly were always meant to be pointing back to evidence of memory tampering rather than and/or not just because of trauma or bias or subjectivity. (Couldn't it have been?)
Girl I really love your tone and your voice when you quote from the original books! When are we getting a Maven of Eventide’s full audiobook of Interviews With the Vampier?
I hope Claudia gets away this round - I know that her death is a major part of Louis' arc and referred to in subsequent books, but I want her to be happy dang it!
I think the secret twist is that old man Daniel is not real. I think Young Daniel was turned and then body switched into old "Daniel" ( hence Raglan James being introduced so early) or that the Dubai is all in Daniel's head, a mind trick to show him what it would've been like for him to age into an old man since he never will due to him being turned after the first interview. An unlikely but obvious choice I think most want/ will say is that Claudia didn't die, she will show up at the end to give her own interview and she just separated from Lestat and Louis for decades, Gabrielle style.
I think the twist may be that it's Lestat that faces the sun. After all, in the previews we see Claudia thrown in the rat box not left out in the sun, and Lestat is still technically a criminal under coven rules for making her and is subject to their punishment. It's a twist that would line up with the books in that Lestat would be left utterly decimated from the theater encounter. And when you consider how angry Santiago is about his maker being punished/murdered by Armand and how much he hates Louis it seems a plausible twist that he would use his newly granted power to take out such a dramatic & poetic vengeance. It makes the mental state Louis is in throughout IWTV have ever more levels of misery. Also, it would still perfectly align with the condition we find Lestat in at the start of his tale in TVL and set him up to explain how he is strong enough to survive. Just a thought.
Came here to talk about the coven's crime spree. Not my idea, but someone's on TikTok. The people hanging from the Eiffel Tower were chanting something. What if they are summoning another vampire, like when Armand was calling Lestat? But, who are they calling? Maybe they were convincing Madeleine and Claudia to come back, or were they calling Lestat? Ooh, the mysteries!
I really really hope that the twist isnt that actually Lestat organized the trial. I love the show, dont get me wrong, but sometimes if feels so biased against Lestat lmao like it gives his positive traits to other characters and then gives him negative traits that belong to other characters too. Enough with the Lestat slander pls a girl is tired 😔🖐️ The fake out version could be pretty cool tho (that Louis believed it was Lestat's revenge to set up the trial but then he finds out during the interview that actually Armand was behind it all, I think it would hurt even more if Lestat got caught in the fire that hit the theater and was set by Louis)
The fake out version you mention is the same as the book, though, so that WOULDN’T be a twist at all… Lestat being in the fire though would be horrible 😱
I've been having a hard time with this show, in letting myself emerge within it without skepticism. To me, it feels like the story is constructed with cool twists and tableaus in mind first, and the characters are being dragged along behind the plot as a result. It's possible that I'm not paying attention properly, or I just don't have all of the information yet and that's why nothing is lining up, but after every episode, my thought is 'eh, that was pretty but I'm unmoved'. Except when Ben Daniels is on the screen, Santiago might not be the deepest character I've ever seen on the screen but the actor is so magnetic that I don't overthink it!
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I think the explanation for stealing the color film stock it has to do with how extremely flammable were the nitrato films used by that time. They even caused huge fires in movie theaters. Quentin Tarantino used it to kill the whole Nazi high command in Inglorious Basterds. They might also try to use it in the series for the executions (to fry them like ants on the pavement :)))
Why does the Talamasca tell Daniel that he should fear the other one, not Armand? It makes me wonder what role Louis actually played in the fire and Claudia’s death.
Yasssssssss my Dark Sovereign!! Been waiting!! Episode was ...again fantastic!! I'm dying to know who will play Marius, Maharet or Akasha an Enkil...shit...even shitty ass Santino! LMAO 😂😂😂😂
Is it possible to do a video on the different versions of the Audiobooks for this series? I know they have been redone but the original ones with F Murray Abraham reading IWTV and Micheal York doing The Vampire Lestat have stayed with me for almost 2 decades!!!
That would be interesting. I am OBSESSED with the Frank Muller Body Thief. I don’t even care that he pronounces Louis’s name wrong, he is just SO good at Lestat’s voice and David’s and everyone else!
52:47 - Doesn't this seem like basically exactly what has happened, in the tv series too, though? Hence the two complaining at each other after the first interview about how distant and fading in spark their relationship was before the first Daniel interview, or whatever? And with how sterile and modern their dubai digs are ? // how truly performative most all of their intimacy in the 2020s seems, like they're just going through these motions in a pretense of feelings without any actual or truly real and deep feelings there behind it at all? And why Armand is always perpetually annoyed at, no matter what he does, never being able to earn a fraction of the same passion or devotion from Louis that Lestat/Claudia had? I dunno-perhaps I'm reading too much into everything. But I don't think we actually do have to treat anything said as absolute fact until said otherwise in an ongoing series, personally-only after something is fully completed must you treat everything said within it as presumably fact, except in headcanon or speculation. And even then, I think only if it wasn't canceled before its creators were able to do literally everything they might have potentially been considering doing, unless the creators themselves state that some particular thing or another was/wasn't what they were planning prior to their cancelation interrupting things midway.
Are their personalities really completely different than their book counterparts? Or have their personalities simply taken certain paths or natural divergences that even their book counterparts' personalities likely would have taken if put under certain conditions or influences which the characters have been put under in the tv series but were never met with in the books? I think there is a slight difference between the same personality molding slightly differently under differing life events/circumstances/whatever than literally having a completely different personality that even in the same exact events/circumstances/etcetera would have still acted completely different.....but maybe that's just me, and perhaps to others there is no such distinction. Lol
It was such a weird decision for the show to ...downplay the blood aspect of the vampire's nature and just make it bland "food" for them that they need to "live". I guess since they let them have sex and eat and smoke and drink alcohol in the show, they no longer needed blood drinking to be this sensual thing for them...but it seems like such a flattening of Anne's vampire mythos to make drinking blood a boring experience akin to making a sandwich at midnight by the light of your fridge.
That part bothered me too, and yet later they show the memories and images coming from Madeleine when they are drinking from her, so it's not mundane at all, like Claudia said ??
I definitely think Claudia was downplaying it, trying to poke a little and make sure Madeline wouldn’t freak out still. The reality is a LOT to take in! So I think Claudia was trying to make it seem more “normal” and less monstrous (tho we later see Madeline already sees herself as something monstrous anyway and isn’t shocked or offput by the idea)
For me the only real twist that would blow my mind is Gabriella being apart of the trial and she's the one who saved Lestat from the swamp. Sorry Maven but I love Gabriella, she's my favorite character.😍😍🤩
55:04 - I would argue that you could take what we are given so far[ across the first two seasons] as having already made it pretty friggin' obvious that literally anything said or shown at any point in this tv show could be either the full truth and nothing but OR a potential lie/distortion/partial-truth/whatever and the fact that we can never know for absolutely sure or certain either which way or another could in fact just as easily be the entire point of it all. Kinda like the movie _Inception_ ending with the sound of the spinning top starting to wobble but the top never being shown on-screen to ever actually fall down and stop spinning at all, leaving it entirely open to audience debate and individual personal interpretation IF any of that did or did not in fact mean that the scene the movie ended on was actually reality or still just another dream....potentially because the entire point was that the character himself no longer cared so much if it was or wasn't real or dream. Fiction does not always have to follow the same set formula of always giving concrete or definitive answers. And just because they haven't been greenlit for season 3 yet does not mean that they are actually obligated to write season 2 in a way that answers everything at all how it could seem to stand the same completely on its own as it might/would stand if they do get to have the season 3 they might be aiming for yet may or may not actually get. So, if they want to end season 2 one way, perhaps even whilst fully intending to retcon it later on in season 3 should they get to have one....they are still fully allowed to do that and aren't in the least bit obligated to write it differently just because they might not actually get to retcon it in the next season like they planned for. There's also the fact that, just because Lestat depicts himself in the books as actually being so much less culpable or so much more in the right or whatnot than everyone else[ except when he's in a particularly self-loathing/self-deprecating mood], does not mean that we the readers[ or the tv show's creators] necessarily do actually have to treat Lestat's accounts as any more reliable than Louis' accounts were. We could say that book 1 is Louis' perspective, book 2 is Lestat's perspective, and the actual truth has always been something entirely unknowable and outside-of or in-between their two perspectives. And an adaptation is allowed to play with that, sometimes, even in ways that the original source material maybe never actually did. And it's only really a retcon anyhow if it wasn't originally planned, if they legitimately plan it one way then for whatever reasons go back and change it in ways they did not originally plan to do. Only the show's actual creator(s) know for sure what is an actual retcon or not versus what is/isn't things they've been planning on doing all along. Nevermind everything they've already altered, that could also legitimately push characters in the tv series to do things differently than they might have in the books. But, I dunno, maybe that's me and my own thoughts/ponderings/speculations. 🤷🤷♀️🤷🏻♂️ I just really don't think we have to just accept that everything really does have to all be wrapped up or explained at the end of season 2 exactly the way it might be if season 2 is not the last-especially if they aren't planning on season 2 being the last. Not even if they don't know for absolutely sure whether they will actually get another season like they hope or not. And something deliberately to be question it really did or didn't happen exactly as it claims it did is just as valid an option as definitively saying "yes, this is literally what did indeed happen exactly" is. And only the show's creators know which thing they were or weren't actually going for or not, regardless of what they do or don't actually show or get the opportunity to rewrite later on or not.
Okay so my spider sense is telling me that Louis is going to burn the theater down with his fire gift and based on the trailer for episode 7 it looks like Madeline or Claudia are going to be chewed to death by those rats in the container cuz it looks like she was screaming from inside the container or she could be burned alive by the stolen magnifying glass.
41:17 - IF you can believe _anything_ that *ever* comes out of Armand's mouth, ever.😅😅 Lol And we really don't know if we can or can't. ( kind of reminds me of Armand implying, yet not directly saying, that Marius p*mp*d Armand out to Marius' artist friends....but my brain wonders if the certain skills which Armand had were actually something else far less egregious and maybe Armand literally just said it in such a way that would get at Louis' bleeding heart and make Louis feel they were kindred spirits not just for being used by Lestat but for also having toxic makers, or something -really just depends on exactly how sanitized and sympathetic or just how dastardly and conniving tv!Armand actually is or not in the end , I s'pose )
13:45 - Or maybe literally all of this has still been more about getting/keeping Louis than actually about caring if he loses control of the coven or not, and caring about the coven at all is just the lie he's told Louis to play Louis like a fool and convince Louis how much Armand cares for Louis / how much better than those other eviler coven vampires Armand allegedly truly is(because 'if only it had been up to just Armand alone' things never would have gone down the way they went down in the end and 'it was only because all those other eviler vampires were also involved' that things ever went so badly), all along. Then again, they've also hinted at Santiago possibly legitimately being more powerful than Armand despite being much younger than Armand, so .. maybe they're just saying Armand really was weaker and only ruled by cunning not literal might or strength, so .. in the face of Santiago's actual might/strength turned against Armand rather than working for Armand .... perhaps Armand had to crumple and fold a bit more than Armand might otherwise have done? Or maybe everything Santiago is doing was secretly actually done at Armand's behest all along, despite us audiences and Louis/Daniel not yet being party to that knowledge, and despite Armand claiming that it wasn't. 27:45 - ((Similarly, just because it outwardly seems like this was Louis' idea, doesn't necessarily mean that it actually was Louis' idea....especially if Armand could still push ideas into Louis' mind, or make Louis misremember things from how they actually happened, like .. because he knows that Louis feeling like everything is Louis' own choice/idea is very very important to Louis right then after feeling like Lestat was so domineering and Louis so powerless in that relationship. I mean, of course it could be, but it depends on exactly how much the tv series is or isn't planning on playing with things seeming one way but actually being a totally other way in reality as revealed later on or not.))
How come Armand is letting Louis do the interview/have a published in the first place knowing the risks? I remember they mention it in s1 and maybe s2 but I cannot recall 😭 It’s also driving me mad why Armand would give Louis up if there was ANY risk Louis would get hurt? I hope it’s answered next ep
Santiago only stole one diary at first, which is what they were passing around. But then after Madeline’s a vampire, she and Claudia leave Paris for a while (weeks? months? Long enough to grow flowers over corpses) and during that time is when the coven gets the rest of the diaries
It is completely in character for Armand not wanting to make another vampire. He never made one, and is the reason he repeatedly gives to Daniel for refusing him again and again, until Daniel is literally at Death's door.
I honestly don't have any theory, but if next episode is going to be the climax of the series with the trial, what is the last episode going to be about?
After the trial, there's still a bunch of stuff that happens in the book--Louis burning down the theatre and his revenge on the coven, his years of living with Armand and traveling the world, Armand taking him to see Lestat in New Orleans to try to get Louis to come back to life again. Plus whatever threads they need to tie up in Dubai!
10:17 - isn't the obvious implication that 2020s Armand could be the one who is for some reason lying? Or who needs to somehow justify/explain his current drastic change of tune? (For example, like because of its guilt by association with the distasteful coven betrayal/business/drama, or whatever-but not necessarily actually that, even though that is where Louis in the tv series goes with it.) 🤔 I think we really need to stop treating it as if somebody writing a fictional character taking a dig, especially one that the veracity of is even in-universe outright challenged, at something somehow automatically equates to the writer(s) behind that character themself also taking a dig at that particular thing personally-as if writers can not write characters who have opinions or perspectives or mindsets that the writer themself actually disagrees with or does not personally support at all, kind of like you know literally anybody who ever writes any villain character doing awful villainous things.😅😅
I think the most surprising thing they could throw at people would be making things follow even more closely to the books than they seem to have been doing so far. But .. I doubt that's exactly what will actually happen at all.😂😂
I'm thinking about what ranglan said about being afraid of the other... He say the other not Louis so I'm believing he referred to Lestat I believe he s around
31:36 - Because getting it from where they usually get it from would mean getting it in a way that Armand would likely be fully aware of and capable of putting a stop to?
@@MavenoftheEventide Well... except that it was established that Armand had allegedly said no to tweaking the play how Santiago supposedly wanted to? And it is fairly established that Armand does oversee basically everything at the theatre like one of those directors who wants their performers to perform the characters exactly how the director wants them performed rather than letting the performers make the characters into the performer's own rendition of that character/vision/whatever/ and creating much more of a collaborative effort between what the director wants and what the performers feel like doing in the moment? So I don't think it's that much of a logical leap, honestly, to connect those particular dots as likely meant to be how the presented information is potentially intended to be understood. (I think there is a difference between merely headcanon-ing between the lines based as much or more on what isn't said than on what actually is said in ways that may not have at all been intended by its creator/s, versus making reasonable deductions made by adding up various things that truly were in fact said and were probably said specifically in order to deliberately lead audiences toward those particular conclusions on purpose. Especially in this current era that is super obsessed with showing things so much more than telling them, despite the ambiguity of interpretation that can often introduce in a more visual medium[ like movies or tv] than written books.) But I suppose it depends on what else is or isn't revealed later on, too.
46:37 - ARE they ^really^ out of the way, though, when Louis not only knows they are out there but can also literally _feel_ that Madeleine[ and thus by extension also Claudia] is out there every moment if every day/night/whatever??🤔
This episode is beautifully sad. I love Claudia and Madeleine, so much. I love their scenes, but my favorite is when Louis changed Madeleine into a vampire. And we see her life and how she sees the beautiful Claudia, and Louis seeing that Madeleine will make her finally happy, my heart hurts because we know they wouldn't live long as vampires, but I am glad they at least traveled together. And the cafe scene, I might be the only one who had cried. Also, I really didn't care if Lestat came back, I am NOT a fan of the tv version of him (I still prefer Tom Cruise because it was accurate to the book). It wasn't a shocker to me, I knew already. I was like, yeah, whatever. All I know, I am not looking for episode 7, I don't want Claudia and Madeleine to be gone, I loved them, and I know I will cry so hard. I am looking forward to episode 8, when we all know Louis will riot and burn the effin theatre to the ground. And I am here for tragic Louis!❤
Why is TV Lestat not faithful to the book? he is literally the most faithful character to the book, the TV Louis who has practically nothing to do with the book, there have been changes to all the characters, so your criticism makes no sense at all.
I think the choice the coven gives armand is give up leadership of the coven. Agree to the trial, and they will let louie live. And armand to be together.
Okay, just came off the new episode and...i'm still thinking Armand is worse than we've seen. Well, what we've seen when hes right there to help 'add' context to a memory. Louis and Daniel remember the desperate gremlin torturing a half dead Malloy, prying apart his mind to see what made him 'so interesting'. Can this junkie make him more interesting? Armand is clearly terrified Louis would leave him, maybe make this strange interviewer his new 'interesting' companion and leave him, like Lestat left him alone to manage Lestats mad ex lover Nikki and their playhouse? I mean, its what book Armand was like. The retelling of events (like during the trial to come) paint Louis less composed as he is in the show and more desperate like book Louis. But maybe i'm just desperate to see more of the novel to be given life and Armand is a lonely little angel and- barf. I want my messy gremlin back...
Tbf... I have heard that France did have a slightly different relationship with race than other countries did. You were more likely to find legitimized mixed-race heirs in France than anywhere else, where even one distant drop of not-white bloodlines was too much to ever be legitimized. But I dunno exactly how true that actually is or not.
You are right that Claudia is not an obstacle for Louis and Armand's relationship. Lestat is.
So with killing her and putting the blame on Lestat, he kills two birds with a stone. Puts Louis against Lestat and fucks up Lestat for 'leaving him' by making him watch his kid die.
Diabolical!
@@MavenoftheEventide I mean, they are upping the Lestat's trauma conga line up to eleven in the show. Allso, there was a shot from trial in one of the trailers with him red-eyed and gasping and a slit of sunlight disappearing. So I'm guessing that's our magnifying glass and he'll watch Claudia die in this version. 🙃
Let's cross our fingers they keep that scene where he tells Armand to go and bury himself after all this shit, though. 😂
I feel like Claudia is a obstacle in Armands mind though yeah? He mentions her implosion is inevitable and Louise will always use her as an excuse to not live his life. Armand wants Louis to himself he cannot have that entirely with Claudia in the picture and knowing she's a ticking time bomb?
Armand is the obstacle in Louis and Armand's relationship.
"Let them have a slowburn." Oh, they will...
Too soon! 😭
@@MavenoftheEventideMaybe the ashes will stick together this time and she’ll heal.
"She's not white; she's French." 😆
French white...
As the english canadians Said to the french canadians "stop speaking french, speak white ! " Vive la France !
I was going to put this same comment
She did fuck a Nazi.....
that was awfully white of her.
I came to the comments for this exact quote lol this was a joke right??
obviously it’s truth until proven otherwise, but i think there’s a distinct possibility that armand is lying that louis asked him to erase his memories. armand is giving me very “will do anything and i mean *anything* to not be abandoned” vibes.
But erasing Louis's memories would make that worse! Louis was ready to abandon him, then went through this stuff, then at the end decided to stay with him. Armand erasing that just resets Louis back to the beginning where he was bored of Armand and ready to go. It would be BETTER for Armand to have Louis remember everything.
hm, yeah that’s true, and i did not take into account that louis decided to stay with him in the end before the memory erasure. part of my problem is clearly struggling to remember key details lol. the other part is definitely me hardcore struggling to accept changes from the books, though i do try because i like the show enough to come back every week.
@@MavenoftheEventide IF the memories themselves are correct. We saw how he "suggested" another explanation for Daniel in the 70s. So and so found you in a hotel/crackhouse?. The brain can fill in the blanks. What if Armand did that as well to Louis, recreating this fight and reconciliation JUST in case he remembered it later? Most of Armand's explanations so far seem almost designed to make him look soft, devoted and specially pitiful, the kind of toxic boyfriend that goes: Why are you doing this to me after all I've done? When you want to break up... could the memories be a part of it as well?
@@MavenoftheEventide Unless, however many days later, Louis had changed his mind again. (Or, perhaps, if Louis only said what he felt like he needed to say to get Daniel out of there alive-and didn't actually mean it that he would stay because he'd actually or genuinely reconciled with Armand.)
@@MavenoftheEventide but does ARMAND know that it would be better, is the question!
Gods, I HOPE it's revealed Armand is, as he was in the book, the true architect of...what's to come. Don't get me wrong, I love the actor and what he does for Armand but...making Santiago the big bad just seems like they WANT to make the relationship with our bois less messy. And that's the thing! These vampires ARE MESSY AS FUCK. And that's why we read these books over and over under the spines of the books gave way. We Stan messy vamps in my household.
I think Armand has been lying about everything. The way he comes in to correct what Louis says. The more Louis talks, the more clarity his mind has and then Armand quickly slips in and corrects him. I think the only retellings that are fully trustworthy are whats from Claudia's journal. Just the fact that Louis asked to see the ripped out pages that were supposedly mutually removed, Armand still hasnt allowed him to see them. In 73, Louis mentions the "gremlin", which he only seems to have said because he was under heavy drugs. So that tells me Louis has seen and knows more about Armand than what is being told, but he only remembers it when mentally jarred. My final thoughts, Armand isnt really anything that he appears. He is probably more like his book identity, but this is the way they play that character out in live action.
I love watching the Maven perform/describe the Chronicles for at least 60 thousand of her fans. She's very good at it and seems to truly enjoy herself. Bravo, Maven!
One thing that stuck with me is the agent telling Daniel that he should be worried about Louie, not Armand.
I swear as much as the darling Maven says Armand would have no need for it but he and Daniel hooked up already. The only people that seem to not know are Daniel and maybe Louis. Those scars on Daniel's neck look too marked even if he's one of the few people to live to tell the tale. The show has also established a pattern for Armand and gave him ample reason to entertain a curiosity through his argument with Louis. That Daniel humored and got so much spirit out of Louis is notable. Armand would let him go but he'd seek him out to figure out what made him so impressive. Armand stalks, observes, then starts throwing breadcrumbs before full-on seeking an audience. Through interacting with him, I can see how Show Armand falling for Show Daniel given they contrast. Armand's a sad, black hole of a mess. Daniel's a big ball of light and positivity. Despite having an open relationship Louis would feel weird about Armand having a regular paramour and probably react badly. Remember that's what bothered him about Lestat. A frequent visit to the same person means emotional investment. Louis reacting badly would give Armand plenty of reason to be careful so Armand choosing to let go of Daniel and erase his memories so as to not feel compelled to seek him out doesn't sound ridiculous. It would explain why he felt he had to hide as another identity for as long as he did. Another clue is that they're vampires. Ok so he wanted to eat Daniel. Well, so did Louis. Armand wouldn't have to feel ashamed about his biting Daniel as it's what they do. Daniel wouldn't have freaked out or been traumatized as he wanted to leave. Fought until Armand hypnotized him. That means Armand's hiding something more and took precautions because Louis is infamous for his temper in the series when he gets his flares.
Edited: Typos. Typing fast can suck sometimes.
I loved this, too. It was Akasha who issued that warning in the books. In Queen of the Damned.
Is it possible he was referring to Lestat? I agree more than likely in the context he is referring to Louis but for some reason I considered the possibility he’s talking about Lestat.
@@caseyhart4999 I’m inclined to say no. Just because they’ve been painting Louis all season (especially in the last episode) as being completely unstable and the warning was about Louis in the books as well. Interesting theory though.
@@TheNightFlower yea I figured that is probably the case. I’m just trying to think of all the different ways they could continue the story beyond season 2 and I feel for them to continue they absolutely need Lestat to make an appearance in the modern day and have Daniel finally get his perspective on the interview. He DID say in I think episode 3 of this season “I really gotta meet this guy” in reference to Lestat.
lestat's comeback was no secret to me but I was still so shocked, this show is amazing
I've been checking nonstop for her upload! yay!🎉❤
Same friend! lol
53:12 - I don't know if we can completely discount the imprisonment. Its subtle but he's shaking - very Daniel-esque with the shakey cigarette smoking - and his eyes are red as hell. He's extremely agitated AT BEST. They were clever only showing his face through a reflection but... In the brief glimpse we had of him, he absolutely did not want to be there.
You were right❤
I think the big twist is Lestat will help Louis to destroy the théâtre des vampires
That would be AMAZING!!
I will say despite 2022 Armand's comment about the play, it is very clear from the direction, performances, music, and cinematography that both Armand and the show itself is treating that speech with reverence (as they should, it is an amazing piece of writing elevated by Ben Daniels' performance).
If anything, it may have been a meta!clap-back against viewers of the first season who criticized the book quotes as being tacky/cringey, by having Louis call B.S. on the accusation.... also by positioning it as an early model of a wildly popular production[ or whatever]. Like, obviously, it wasn't actually bad it was just experimental and boundary pushing and ahead of its time and would go on to prove all detractors wrong-or, at least, that's what I personally would presume the takeaway was likely meant to be. But, without asking the show's creators themselves, who really knows for absolutely sure!.
I'm not too concerned with how the show will deviate from the books. I'm just going to sit back, enjoy the ride, and hope for more seasons.
I don’t know. There are certain things I have to see come to life from the book.
During the cafe scene when Madeleine was speaking to Louis about his love for Armand, she was really talking about Lestat, in my opinion. Louis had previously said "I love you" to Armand, but he couldn't ever bring himself to say it to Lestat because he was terrified of losing him. Since the last time he said those words and truly meant them, it was to his brother Paul. However, he played it off. Louis has shown a lot more affection towards Armand than he ever did with Lestat.
Maybe the twist is Claudia gets to live this time? Which I only say because I want it to be true, but also because they made a point of stopping her diaries while she was still alive. Wouldn't the more melodramatic way to end them be her death...unless she doesn't die! lol, a girl can dream.
I wish she was vindicated in the series. I doubt it, but it would be a cool change in the writing as opposed to the “meh” changes that I feel haven’t done the books justice. Plus, does every female vampire character need to be sexually assaulted or threatened with it? It’s really disturbing they went that way to “modernize” it. :/
You know, i never thought i would see Louis as a top, but all i can say is: Whatever daddy lou says, whatever he says...
I was thinking the same thing! I was like DAMN 😱 🤤
This episode was pretty good. Assad Zaman continues to kill it in the role. I was thrown by.....whatever the heck....that accent is Justin Kirk is doing; but still overall a good episode. I enjoyed the Claudia/Madeleine scenes. Roxan Duran is very very good. That ending though....
My headcanon is that hes already in a new Body so he tries to fake an accent lol
I think Claudia attraction to men vs women can also be explained with just her age. As a young vampire at season 1 she was the teenager older men seemed weird and she didnt even think of women. But now even tho shes the same visually she lived through war etc. older people dont seem so weird. if she feels adult and the girl makes her feel adult she might have relationship with her. The dress she makes her can be like -oh with her im no girl im a woman and she just didnt have this situation with a man.
Louis in the previous episode mentioned that Paris liberated him sexuality, it think it's safe to assume that the same could have hapenned to Claudia
Fun theory... Lestat surprises Santiago by becoming a witness for the defense. He blame himself for everything (and we find out Claudia didn't just lie about no dreaming in her diaries. She lied about a lot of things). He wins a 'not guilty' verdict from the audience, but its too late. The sun comes through the magnifying glass and sets the theater on fire with Claudia, Madeleine, and the other supporters vamps inside. Louis is saved by Armand and he believes Lestat died in the fire until 1977.
(I know this won't happen because of the promo pictures of Louis setting the theater on fire, but hey, Just throwing it out there).
So the interesting thing is Louis has a temper and also can set things on fire now with his powers. I have a feeling that maybe Louis the one who kills Claudia and everyone else accidentally and maybe Armand saves Louis but fails to save anyone else … then messes with his memories so that he forgets it but every time he goes into a drug fueled state, he starts to remember it and that’s what Amanda is protecting him from it’s why Louis tries to kill himself after telling the story to Daniel and having that big blow up… That ends by him constantly repeating Claudia‘s name😊
Armand thinks he'll get Lestat, but Lestat pardons Louis. A bit miffed over it, Armand keeps Lestat in the basement... forever, and takes back his Louis. Flash forward to the modern day and we series finale with Lestat's breakout. New series, the Vampire Lestat season 1. Hence "no" renewal.
@philipjay2099 That’s literally exactly what I’ve been thinking!!!!
No clue why in that moment, but that exact same thought just suddenly came to me, during the scene where Armand & Louis were fighting in the apartment in the 70s (right before Louis ran into the sun).
Idk how they could redeem armand if this happens 😭
45:30 - The implication is that Armand must have lied to Louis in Paris about what the choice was, just to set Louis up and lure Louis and Claudia and Madeleine unsuspecting into the coven's trap.
But, you know, at what point do you start to question _when_ the lies actually are or aren't happening?
I really hope that Lestat is not the main villianfor Claudia and Madeline. Lestat and Louis both said the time the 3 of the had together was the happiest time in both their lives. Lestat and Louis (Louis more) regret and frequently think of Claudia
i don't think we're supposed to buy armand's excuse that he was just doing what louis asked when he deleted his memory from 1973. daniel certainly doesn't. like oh no...the gaslighter is gaslighting again....who could have seen this coming 😂
anyways idk if its much of a crazy twist, but my money is on lestat crashing dubai in the present day in the finale. im also....reserving judgment on lestat's role in the trial. he could be pissed just bc he's in paris again and he hates it there lmao. i think they're winding us up to think lestat is enacting his revenge...hell, thats what dreamstat told louis he'd do once louis was finally happy again, in s2e1. but from interviews, cast has stressed that dreamstat is all louis's self hatred and doubts. i think this is going to be a fakeout. lestat may appear genuinely sinister in the trial but i think thats going to be colored by armand's manipulation. and we'll have to wait to s3 to hear lestat's version.
(and sidenote - i don't hate armand at all. assad zaman deserves a fucking emmy. i believe him when he says he's doing all of this for love. love...is just another monster in of itself.)
Yeah, the line delivery was just a bit iffy, not the acting, but just the way that Armand is saying things. He said that Louis asked him to remove the memory... and then IMMEDIATELY pivots to we both removed Claudia's diary pages... That's suspicious. It's a really really abrupt turn in the conversation to try and deflect away from the fact that he was asked to remove the memories. Louis eventually circles back to it but yeah...
Lestat showing up fits my theory that none of what we have heard has been the truth.
@@jamiedoe6822 I mean from what book readers have told me there are some things that do line up as being the truth between Louis and Lestat's version of events... And they have told some of it.... so some of what Louis is telling Daniel IS the truth... But some of it isn't faithful to the books... And so a lot of people are hoping it's a lie and not just an adaptation change... But we won't know for sure until season 3 when they tell Lestats version.... But I mean even Lestat's version will probably have some lies sprinkled in. So basically you can guarantee that pretty much everyone on this show is going to be lying at some point, probably.
i think if NOTHING has been the truth....sorry, that would be so boring and the show would be actively wasting our time if they pulled that. claudia isnt unbiased herself, but we do have her corroboration through the diaries for much of s1 lestat's racist and abusive behavior, etc. it would be incredibly cheap to retcon that away. tv lestat can be a worse person than book lestat and thats ok, lol.
but i do think armand is lying about a lot more than louis is...we know he left out gabrielle entirely in the little backstory he gave daniel. thats big enough that cannot be an adaptation change imo. i don't think armand is evil, but he also doesn't have a reason to tell daniel the truth, and he can justify any action if he thinks it'll help him keep louis. so, imo, the trial is going to be suspect bc this is the great wedge in the loumand relationship, but also a time louis presumably chose armand over lestat. i expect armand to be hiding the full truth from louis in order to ensure louis keeps making that choice.
@@happyquesadilla When I say nothing, I mean we cannot know which parts are true when ever we are solely relying on Louis or Armand. I am assuming we will not know until the third season what happened. I think we will get more eye witnesses like say Lestat. The diary is more reliable but, as Louis points out, we don’t know what parts are missing from the diary. We are relying on Armand.
I cannot lie, this episode left me a bit flabbergasted. If Madeline can feel Louis, wouldn’t Louis and Claudia been able to ‘feel’ Lestat near them and know he’s not actually dead? Do you think the writers will keep this “ability” or will they just eventually drop it when it’s not plot convenient?
As for the twist, a few weeks ago my head was brimming with theories, but seeing how things are developing now, I incline more with what you said, Maven. I feel like they’re gonna make Lestat the big bad, the true puppet master of the season, instead of Armand. And later on, this version (Louis and Armand’s) will be retconned with Lestat’s version on season 3/4, if they ever happen (hopefully they will, I’m crossing my fingers 😭). I’m afraid I no longer have nails to bite for the last two episodes, please send help! 😂😂
I think its pretty damn clear Louis "felt" lestat and was pretty positive he was alive in every other episode.... His "lestat" projections are him feeling him.
@@spoons250 I get your point. But didn’t Sam and the rest of the production made it abundantly clear that whom Louis sees and feels is ‘’Dreamstat’’ a projection of his guilt and not the actual Lestat. Because if what you say it’s true, why’s Claudia never been able to “feel/sense” Lestat, she is after all his daughter and fledgling, wouldn’t she be able to see his projection as well with all the demanding emotions? If Louis was certain his projection was indeed Lestat and that he was alive, why would he go to Roget? How could Louis bid farewell to the ‘feeling’ of Lestat, and have the projection disappear if Lestat is latent somewhere? I would think that rather than live his best D/s life with Armand, he would be on edge knowing Lestat could pop up and expose both him and Claudia before the coven and get them killed. You have to remember “Dreamstat” threatened Louis. That’s why I don’t think he actually felt Lestat alive, but more like he is constantly battling his demons and siphoning them through the image of Lestat. Also the way they (Louis and Madeline) describe this “feeling” of maker/fledgling is entirely different from what Louis experiences with Dreamstat.
9:35 - I don't think that Louis hates theatre, he admitted in the first season that he loved it and just pretended to dislike it due to his tough guy persona. But now theatre is a constant reminder of Lestat to him, so it makes sense why he wouldn't be very partial to it in the present.
Poor tv Madeleine can't get away from the trials by angry mob, it's her destiny 😅
You are right but i d rather to be killed by other vampires than to be shaved and ashamed after the liberation and be accused to have "horizontally collaborated"
I can’t imagine what the big twist is. I would love to imagine that Claudia somehow survives but I don’t think that is it. It would change so much about what makes Louis such a tragic character.
I just saw the trailer for episode 7 and I’m convinced Lestat is not there out of his own volition.
Just seeing him actually in the trial… he looks so drab and miserable, sure he could be hurt by what Lois did BUT if he really organized a whole stage trial in front of a live audience… you would think he would be more theatrical about it, after all we just saw him episodes ago joyfully jumping around in full stage make up while on a play
Maybe he wouldn’t be happy this time but like… deranged I would expect, specifically if he set it all up himself, not depressed and wearing a dark suit.
My theory is that we’re going to get the whole play and Lois will be convinced that Lestat planed the whole thing and threatened Armand to get away with it… BUT in present day Daniel is going to question the whole thing, the questioning is going to make Louis realize it doesn’t make sense… and “surprise” gaslighter Armand reveal.
Turns out Armand has been changing A LOT of Louis’ memories, they get away from him (somehow) and now they realize the book can still not be published because Louis had accidentally spewed god knows how many lies… and there’s only one vampire that can fill in the blanks, set up for season 3
Now my insane crackpot theory for the twist is that actually Armand has had Lestat trapped in their own Dubai apartment all this time. After all, the one way he can be sure Lestat will never come back to patch things up with Louis is if he knows where he is ALL the time.
Then they don’t even have to change sets for season 3, it can literally proceed immediately afterwards, maybe with Armand tied up in his little chair or something for extra banter potential.
Alternatively Claudia survived. I don’t even know how they would make this one work, but it sure would be a twist and one hell of a hook
@artemiswolf4508 So with you on Armand having Lestat imprisoned there in Dubai….I’ve been thinking the exact same thing myself!
And yeah, I’ve also pondered any possible storyline in which they could pull off a Claudia’s actually still alive twist! But yeah, I just don’t see it ever working beyond the cheap shock value….it just couldn’t ever work for the long-term plot, or Louis’s characterization, imo.
Omg!!! What a episode. I am so happy that they put Claudia in a yellow dress like in the book. My hubby ask me why I was excited because of a dress and I told him about it in the book. I can't wait to for next week.
The speed at which i jump to these videos immediately after finishing the episode can only be described as superhuman. Perhaps, even vampiric? Bwahaha I own the night and such, youre the best! 😁
I find it interesting that DreamStat told Louis he’d come to kill him when Louis was finally happy and that’s exactly what happened. I also thing the agent from Talamasca is referring to LeStat when he told Daniel he should fear “the other one”.
I love these comprehensive reviews with references to books and other stuff, it's much better than your average recap! But do you have a link or something about the fact that Claudia had a deleted scene with a female victim? I can't find anything by google
No, I heard about it from my friends who were on set playing background extras when they filmed the scene and know the actor who was cast to play the female victim.
@@MavenoftheEventide oh wow, thank you for sharing then!
It will be an absolute travesty if this show does not get a season 3. I’m so serious I will be absolutely gutted if that’s the case.
I. Love the begginning. Well EVERYTHING is NOT the same, but we might figure something out? 🤣
that is exactly how it feels, yeah...
Considering that we saw the book published in the show, or behind the scenes maybe this all is just Daniel reminiscing and that he’s already been turned by Armand and is now opposite of Lestat, who’s ready to tell his version.
I'm maybe thinking Lestat could make everyone think he's there to serve the trial against Claudia and Louis, but as a the wild card that he is he could flip and actually OUT Armand there in public as the mastermind behind ALL Louis troubles in Paris, him dividing Lou and Claudia as much as possible, having them be one place so the other vampires could enter their apartment to get evidence, all to kill Claudia and so he could have Louis to himself they could leave and Santiago, who helped in the plot, could then keep the coven & theater as the new leader...?
I don't know. I think they are planning on having Armond be the master manipulator. In the after episode segment, it is mentioned that the moment Armand seems to suspect that Daniel and Louie remember, he starts to plot how to make everything turn his way. I do hope that that's where they go with this. I think it makes the character much more interesting.
this show's twists and turns has me reaaally worried for how they are gonna treat marius when/if they eventually add him as a character. he is already highly misunderstood and hated, which i really don't understand given his actions are really not much different from a lot of other characters. i am afraid they're gonna strip him of all his nuance and make him a big bad, which would be really unfortunate because he's such a rich and complicated character. i guess we can only wait, but i am not very optimistic im ngl 😭
I’m soooo afraid they’re going in that direction, as a hardcore Armand x Marius shipper I already get that vibe with the whole forced prostitution element added to their relationship that wasn’t there in the books, and the way Armand is clearly meant to be traumatized recounting his time as Amadeo… Ugh I just hate it, I really do think we’re supposed to see Marius simply as Armand’s 1-dimensional abuser in the show, I’m hoping it doesn’t pan out like that but at this point I think it will. 🫤
@@lillyk.265 i'm worried for that too. with the way they have so far made armand a much more sympathetic character compared to the books. and the pimping him out comment, i was like yikes. marius is flawed, absolutely. all of the vampires are. but theyve given louis so much grace by taking away his being a slave owner and erasing his romance with claudia. they've given armand a lot of grace, lestat... not so much, they made him more aggressive. and i feel they will strip marius of all his moral ambiguity and his very humane loving side to please the new fans 😬
having just finished a reread of blood and gold: he's a fucking weirdo and he deserves the hate, sorry not sorry
I low-key expected Armand to be disapproving of a screenplay that looks like Twilight fanfic.
If they make it to the “Queen of the Damned,” I hope that they don’t age Akasha’s vampire years down. And I hope they take advantage of all the details within the book, which could make the TV series go for a long time. I’m very interested to see what they could do with Akasha and Enkil’s years when they first became statues. Hopefully, they make it to TVL cause that’s when the story gets more interesting.
I love your vids so much, they’re so informative!!!!
‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️omg! Had to jump on here!!!
New movie with Keanu Reaves!! And Jenna Ortega Dracula ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Okay so regarding the big twist that wasn’t in the book, I have ZERO idea how that could work or make sense with what we've seen so far but hear me out - I think the most unexpected twist they could do that would be a huge change from the book would be to have Claudia survive somehow and then come up with another reason why she's not in the present era that would have to do with Armand's machinations.
(Again, not saying it would make any sense or that it would be good, but it WOULD be truly unexpected.)
13:23 That’s what happens when you invent a new power every week. And why it’s not a good idea to introduce too many abilities.
Inevitability you’ll write yourself into a hole where characters have to take stupid pills or a contrivance needs to be created. Either way it’s a trap that writers should avoid.
10:56 - To be fair, the implication may have been all along that the little detail slippages and why they were bothering Louis so badly were always meant to be pointing back to evidence of memory tampering rather than and/or not just because of trauma or bias or subjectivity. (Couldn't it have been?)
Louis= King of Passive aggression
being this early feels criminal but I need a way to process this episode
I'd like to consider the "Big Change" being that Claudia turns up alive...
Girl I really love your tone and your voice when you quote from the original books! When are we getting a Maven of Eventide’s full audiobook of Interviews With the Vampier?
I hope Claudia gets away this round - I know that her death is a major part of Louis' arc and referred to in subsequent books, but I want her to be happy dang it!
Maybe she will be happy in her afterlife.
I think the secret twist is that old man Daniel is not real. I think Young Daniel was turned and then body switched into old
"Daniel" ( hence Raglan James being introduced so early) or that the Dubai is all in Daniel's head, a mind trick to show him what it would've been like for him to age into an old man since he never will due to him being turned after the first interview. An unlikely but obvious choice I think most want/ will say is that Claudia didn't die, she will show up at the end to give her own interview and she just separated from Lestat and Louis for decades, Gabrielle style.
I think the twist may be that it's Lestat that faces the sun. After all, in the previews we see Claudia thrown in the rat box not left out in the sun, and Lestat is still technically a criminal under coven rules for making her and is subject to their punishment. It's a twist that would line up with the books in that Lestat would be left utterly decimated from the theater encounter. And when you consider how angry Santiago is about his maker being punished/murdered by Armand and how much he hates Louis it seems a plausible twist that he would use his newly granted power to take out such a dramatic & poetic vengeance. It makes the mental state Louis is in throughout IWTV have ever more levels of misery. Also, it would still perfectly align with the condition we find Lestat in at the start of his tale in TVL and set him up to explain how he is strong enough to survive. Just a thought.
That would be so good!!
Came here to talk about the coven's crime spree. Not my idea, but someone's on TikTok. The people hanging from the Eiffel Tower were chanting something. What if they are summoning another vampire, like when Armand was calling Lestat? But, who are they calling? Maybe they were convincing Madeleine and Claudia to come back, or were they calling Lestat? Ooh, the mysteries!
I really really hope that the twist isnt that actually Lestat organized the trial. I love the show, dont get me wrong, but sometimes if feels so biased against Lestat lmao like it gives his positive traits to other characters and then gives him negative traits that belong to other characters too. Enough with the Lestat slander pls a girl is tired 😔🖐️ The fake out version could be pretty cool tho (that Louis believed it was Lestat's revenge to set up the trial but then he finds out during the interview that actually Armand was behind it all, I think it would hurt even more if Lestat got caught in the fire that hit the theater and was set by Louis)
The fake out version you mention is the same as the book, though, so that WOULDN’T be a twist at all…
Lestat being in the fire though would be horrible 😱
Just popping in to wonder whether Maven has ever seen the Dracula ballet. I saw clips of Dracula & Jonathan Harker dancing a tango and I was hooked.
Hi! I just discovered your channel and come here to say you're great (and I'm obsessed with this show
This makes me wonder if Madeline is empathic
Hasn't she always been. Her affair with German soldier said it all tbh.
@@eyesthrurosecoloredglassesI think they mean psychically.
I've been having a hard time with this show, in letting myself emerge within it without skepticism. To me, it feels like the story is constructed with cool twists and tableaus in mind first, and the characters are being dragged along behind the plot as a result. It's possible that I'm not paying attention properly, or I just don't have all of the information yet and that's why nothing is lining up, but after every episode, my thought is 'eh, that was pretty but I'm unmoved'. Except when Ben Daniels is on the screen, Santiago might not be the deepest character I've ever seen on the screen but the actor is so magnetic that I don't overthink it!
I think the explanation for stealing the color film stock it has to do with how extremely flammable were the nitrato films used by that time. They even caused huge fires in movie theaters. Quentin Tarantino used it to kill the whole Nazi high command in Inglorious Basterds. They might also try to use it in the series for the executions (to fry them like ants on the pavement :)))
What if Armand keeps Lestat prisoner somewhere in the present, and that’s why he and Louis never meet after Paris?
Why does the Talamasca tell Daniel that he should fear the other one, not Armand? It makes me wonder what role Louis actually played in the fire and Claudia’s death.
Yasssssssss my Dark Sovereign!! Been waiting!! Episode was ...again fantastic!! I'm dying to know who will play Marius, Maharet or Akasha an Enkil...shit...even shitty ass Santino! LMAO 😂😂😂😂
Same! I'm kinda interested in who's gonna play Khayman as well.
I love hearing you read excerpts from the book, please do another vampire read through at some point!
Theory: Raglan James has already traded bodies with Lestat in modern times. He knows the true story and is getting back at Armand through Daniel.
Is it possible to do a video on the different versions of the Audiobooks for this series? I know they have been redone but the original ones with F Murray Abraham reading IWTV and Micheal York doing The Vampire Lestat have stayed with me for almost 2 decades!!!
That would be interesting. I am OBSESSED with the Frank Muller Body Thief. I don’t even care that he pronounces Louis’s name wrong, he is just SO good at Lestat’s voice and David’s and everyone else!
@@MavenoftheEventide Completely agreed! :)
I just hope they won't make Lestat even more of an a-hole.(they probably will😔)
52:47 - Doesn't this seem like basically exactly what has happened, in the tv series too, though? Hence the two complaining at each other after the first interview about how distant and fading in spark their relationship was before the first Daniel interview, or whatever? And with how sterile and modern their dubai digs are ? // how truly performative most all of their intimacy in the 2020s seems, like they're just going through these motions in a pretense of feelings without any actual or truly real and deep feelings there behind it at all? And why Armand is always perpetually annoyed at, no matter what he does, never being able to earn a fraction of the same passion or devotion from Louis that Lestat/Claudia had?
I dunno-perhaps I'm reading too much into everything.
But I don't think we actually do have to treat anything said as absolute fact until said otherwise in an ongoing series, personally-only after something is fully completed must you treat everything said within it as presumably fact, except in headcanon or speculation. And even then, I think only if it wasn't canceled before its creators were able to do literally everything they might have potentially been considering doing, unless the creators themselves state that some particular thing or another was/wasn't what they were planning prior to their cancelation interrupting things midway.
Are their personalities really completely different than their book counterparts? Or have their personalities simply taken certain paths or natural divergences that even their book counterparts' personalities likely would have taken if put under certain conditions or influences which the characters have been put under in the tv series but were never met with in the books?
I think there is a slight difference between the same personality molding slightly differently under differing life events/circumstances/whatever than literally having a completely different personality that even in the same exact events/circumstances/etcetera would have still acted completely different.....but maybe that's just me, and perhaps to others there is no such distinction. Lol
It was such a weird decision for the show to ...downplay the blood aspect of the vampire's nature and just make it bland "food" for them that they need to "live". I guess since they let them have sex and eat and smoke and drink alcohol in the show, they no longer needed blood drinking to be this sensual thing for them...but it seems like such a flattening of Anne's vampire mythos to make drinking blood a boring experience akin to making a sandwich at midnight by the light of your fridge.
That part bothered me too, and yet later they show the memories and images coming from Madeleine when they are drinking from her, so it's not mundane at all, like Claudia said ??
I definitely think Claudia was downplaying it, trying to poke a little and make sure Madeline wouldn’t freak out still. The reality is a LOT to take in! So I think Claudia was trying to make it seem more “normal” and less monstrous (tho we later see Madeline already sees herself as something monstrous anyway and isn’t shocked or offput by the idea)
For me the only real twist that would blow my mind is Gabriella being apart of the trial and she's the one who saved Lestat from the swamp. Sorry Maven but I love Gabriella, she's my favorite character.😍😍🤩
55:04 - I would argue that you could take what we are given so far[ across the first two seasons] as having already made it pretty friggin' obvious that literally anything said or shown at any point in this tv show could be either the full truth and nothing but OR a potential lie/distortion/partial-truth/whatever and the fact that we can never know for absolutely sure or certain either which way or another could in fact just as easily be the entire point of it all. Kinda like the movie _Inception_ ending with the sound of the spinning top starting to wobble but the top never being shown on-screen to ever actually fall down and stop spinning at all, leaving it entirely open to audience debate and individual personal interpretation IF any of that did or did not in fact mean that the scene the movie ended on was actually reality or still just another dream....potentially because the entire point was that the character himself no longer cared so much if it was or wasn't real or dream.
Fiction does not always have to follow the same set formula of always giving concrete or definitive answers.
And just because they haven't been greenlit for season 3 yet does not mean that they are actually obligated to write season 2 in a way that answers everything at all how it could seem to stand the same completely on its own as it might/would stand if they do get to have the season 3 they might be aiming for yet may or may not actually get. So, if they want to end season 2 one way, perhaps even whilst fully intending to retcon it later on in season 3 should they get to have one....they are still fully allowed to do that and aren't in the least bit obligated to write it differently just because they might not actually get to retcon it in the next season like they planned for.
There's also the fact that, just because Lestat depicts himself in the books as actually being so much less culpable or so much more in the right or whatnot than everyone else[ except when he's in a particularly self-loathing/self-deprecating mood], does not mean that we the readers[ or the tv show's creators] necessarily do actually have to treat Lestat's accounts as any more reliable than Louis' accounts were. We could say that book 1 is Louis' perspective, book 2 is Lestat's perspective, and the actual truth has always been something entirely unknowable and outside-of or in-between their two perspectives. And an adaptation is allowed to play with that, sometimes, even in ways that the original source material maybe never actually did. And it's only really a retcon anyhow if it wasn't originally planned, if they legitimately plan it one way then for whatever reasons go back and change it in ways they did not originally plan to do. Only the show's actual creator(s) know for sure what is an actual retcon or not versus what is/isn't things they've been planning on doing all along.
Nevermind everything they've already altered, that could also legitimately push characters in the tv series to do things differently than they might have in the books.
But, I dunno, maybe that's me and my own thoughts/ponderings/speculations. 🤷🤷♀️🤷🏻♂️
I just really don't think we have to just accept that everything really does have to all be wrapped up or explained at the end of season 2 exactly the way it might be if season 2 is not the last-especially if they aren't planning on season 2 being the last. Not even if they don't know for absolutely sure whether they will actually get another season like they hope or not. And something deliberately to be question it really did or didn't happen exactly as it claims it did is just as valid an option as definitively saying "yes, this is literally what did indeed happen exactly" is. And only the show's creators know which thing they were or weren't actually going for or not, regardless of what they do or don't actually show or get the opportunity to rewrite later on or not.
(But half the fun of the book series has always been the speculation outside of canon, as much as the official canon itself, I think)
Okay so my spider sense is telling me that Louis is going to burn the theater down with his fire gift and based on the trailer for episode 7 it looks like Madeline or Claudia are going to be chewed to death by those rats in the container cuz it looks like she was screaming from inside the container or she could be burned alive by the stolen magnifying glass.
41:17 - IF you can believe _anything_ that *ever* comes out of Armand's mouth, ever.😅😅 Lol
And we really don't know if we can or can't.
( kind of reminds me of Armand implying, yet not directly saying, that Marius p*mp*d Armand out to Marius' artist friends....but my brain wonders if the certain skills which Armand had were actually something else far less egregious and maybe Armand literally just said it in such a way that would get at Louis' bleeding heart and make Louis feel they were kindred spirits not just for being used by Lestat but for also having toxic makers, or something -really just depends on exactly how sanitized and sympathetic or just how dastardly and conniving tv!Armand actually is or not in the end , I s'pose )
I think the theater vamps see Claudias whole arch as saying "im too god for your stupid shows" and that insult is what drives their revenge./
Oh Man Next episode Here We Go
13:45 - Or maybe literally all of this has still been more about getting/keeping Louis than actually about caring if he loses control of the coven or not, and caring about the coven at all is just the lie he's told Louis to play Louis like a fool and convince Louis how much Armand cares for Louis / how much better than those other eviler coven vampires Armand allegedly truly is(because 'if only it had been up to just Armand alone' things never would have gone down the way they went down in the end and 'it was only because all those other eviler vampires were also involved' that things ever went so badly), all along.
Then again, they've also hinted at Santiago possibly legitimately being more powerful than Armand despite being much younger than Armand, so .. maybe they're just saying Armand really was weaker and only ruled by cunning not literal might or strength, so .. in the face of Santiago's actual might/strength turned against Armand rather than working for Armand .... perhaps Armand had to crumple and fold a bit more than Armand might otherwise have done?
Or maybe everything Santiago is doing was secretly actually done at Armand's behest all along, despite us audiences and Louis/Daniel not yet being party to that knowledge, and despite Armand claiming that it wasn't.
27:45 - ((Similarly, just because it outwardly seems like this was Louis' idea, doesn't necessarily mean that it actually was Louis' idea....especially if Armand could still push ideas into Louis' mind, or make Louis misremember things from how they actually happened, like .. because he knows that Louis feeling like everything is Louis' own choice/idea is very very important to Louis right then after feeling like Lestat was so domineering and Louis so powerless in that relationship. I mean, of course it could be, but it depends on exactly how much the tv series is or isn't planning on playing with things seeming one way but actually being a totally other way in reality as revealed later on or not.))
How come Armand is letting Louis do the interview/have a published in the first place knowing the risks? I remember they mention it in s1 and maybe s2 but I cannot recall 😭
It’s also driving me mad why Armand would give Louis up if there was ANY risk Louis would get hurt? I hope it’s answered next ep
How is Madeline reading the dairies if the coven is reading them too? Did i miss a time jump?
Santiago only stole one diary at first, which is what they were passing around. But then after Madeline’s a vampire, she and Claudia leave Paris for a while (weeks? months? Long enough to grow flowers over corpses) and during that time is when the coven gets the rest of the diaries
@@MavenoftheEventide ahh thank you, makes sense.
It is completely in character for Armand not wanting to make another vampire. He never made one, and is the reason he repeatedly gives to Daniel for refusing him again and again, until Daniel is literally at Death's door.
I honestly don't have any theory, but if next episode is going to be the climax of the series with the trial, what is the last episode going to be about?
After the trial, there's still a bunch of stuff that happens in the book--Louis burning down the theatre and his revenge on the coven, his years of living with Armand and traveling the world, Armand taking him to see Lestat in New Orleans to try to get Louis to come back to life again. Plus whatever threads they need to tie up in Dubai!
10:17 - isn't the obvious implication that 2020s Armand could be the one who is for some reason lying? Or who needs to somehow justify/explain his current drastic change of tune? (For example, like because of its guilt by association with the distasteful coven betrayal/business/drama, or whatever-but not necessarily actually that, even though that is where Louis in the tv series goes with it.) 🤔
I think we really need to stop treating it as if somebody writing a fictional character taking a dig, especially one that the veracity of is even in-universe outright challenged, at something somehow automatically equates to the writer(s) behind that character themself also taking a dig at that particular thing personally-as if writers can not write characters who have opinions or perspectives or mindsets that the writer themself actually disagrees with or does not personally support at all, kind of like you know literally anybody who ever writes any villain character doing awful villainous things.😅😅
I think the most surprising thing they could throw at people would be making things follow even more closely to the books than they seem to have been doing so far. But .. I doubt that's exactly what will actually happen at all.😂😂
Miami maybe where Lestat is, I guess.
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What if the season ends like the movie, but instead of Lestat in the car, it's Claudia? XD
I'm thinking about what ranglan said about being afraid of the other... He say the other not Louis so I'm believing he referred to Lestat I believe he s around
I loved Cry to Heaven!
55:12 so there’s going to be 2 more episodes?! 😆 I thought there was one more episode left and the seasons ends 😢
8 episodes total!
31:36 - Because getting it from where they usually get it from would mean getting it in a way that Armand would likely be fully aware of and capable of putting a stop to?
Like I said, nothing like that was established. We can only make guesses and headcanons.
@@MavenoftheEventide Well... except that it was established that Armand had allegedly said no to tweaking the play how Santiago supposedly wanted to? And it is fairly established that Armand does oversee basically everything at the theatre like one of those directors who wants their performers to perform the characters exactly how the director wants them performed rather than letting the performers make the characters into the performer's own rendition of that character/vision/whatever/ and creating much more of a collaborative effort between what the director wants and what the performers feel like doing in the moment? So I don't think it's that much of a logical leap, honestly, to connect those particular dots as likely meant to be how the presented information is potentially intended to be understood. (I think there is a difference between merely headcanon-ing between the lines based as much or more on what isn't said than on what actually is said in ways that may not have at all been intended by its creator/s, versus making reasonable deductions made by adding up various things that truly were in fact said and were probably said specifically in order to deliberately lead audiences toward those particular conclusions on purpose. Especially in this current era that is super obsessed with showing things so much more than telling them, despite the ambiguity of interpretation that can often introduce in a more visual medium[ like movies or tv] than written books.) But I suppose it depends on what else is or isn't revealed later on, too.
Have you seen the animes "Shiki", "Vampire Knight", "Trinity Blood"??????
Considering how many people were speaking french phonetically, yes she not white she is the better French speaker.
46:37 - ARE they ^really^ out of the way, though, when Louis not only knows they are out there but can also literally _feel_ that Madeleine[ and thus by extension also Claudia] is out there every moment if every day/night/whatever??🤔
I haven’t seen it and only watching these videos & honestly thought the dom/sub thing was a joke but it’s true 😮
no no, it's true. vampires being kinky is like a fork found in the kitchen situation
This episode is beautifully sad. I love Claudia and Madeleine, so much. I love their scenes, but my favorite is when Louis changed Madeleine into a vampire. And we see her life and how she sees the beautiful Claudia, and Louis seeing that Madeleine will make her finally happy, my heart hurts because we know they wouldn't live long as vampires, but I am glad they at least traveled together. And the cafe scene, I might be the only one who had cried.
Also, I really didn't care if Lestat came back, I am NOT a fan of the tv version of him (I still prefer Tom Cruise because it was accurate to the book). It wasn't a shocker to me, I knew already. I was like, yeah, whatever.
All I know, I am not looking for episode 7, I don't want Claudia and Madeleine to be gone, I loved them, and I know I will cry so hard.
I am looking forward to episode 8, when we all know Louis will riot and burn the effin theatre to the ground.
And I am here for tragic Louis!❤
Why is TV Lestat not faithful to the book? he is literally the most faithful character to the book, the TV Louis who has practically nothing to do with the book, there have been changes to all the characters, so your criticism makes no sense at all.
@@leticiamvI agree with you. We never had a more accurate version of book Lestat than this. Sam is doing an incredible job as Lestat.
Well I don’t think it will happen I want Claudia and Madeleine to escape live happily ever after!
I think the choice the coven gives armand is give up leadership of the coven. Agree to the trial, and they will let louie live. And armand to be together.
Okay, just came off the new episode and...i'm still thinking Armand is worse than we've seen. Well, what we've seen when hes right there to help 'add' context to a memory.
Louis and Daniel remember the desperate gremlin torturing a half dead Malloy, prying apart his mind to see what made him 'so interesting'. Can this junkie make him more interesting? Armand is clearly terrified Louis would leave him, maybe make this strange interviewer his new 'interesting' companion and leave him, like Lestat left him alone to manage Lestats mad ex lover Nikki and their playhouse?
I mean, its what book Armand was like. The retelling of events (like during the trial to come) paint Louis less composed as he is in the show and more desperate like book Louis.
But maybe i'm just desperate to see more of the novel to be given life and Armand is a lonely little angel and- barf.
I want my messy gremlin back...
HA! Hahaha haha! Vindication! Can't wait for the 3rd season.
LETS GOOOOOOOO
Where’s the newest video?!? I’m DYING!!!
It's up! ua-cam.com/video/6eydneJoZyk/v-deo.html
@@MavenoftheEventide IM WATCHING CURRENTLY! You’re my hero! Haha 😆
"She's not white, she's French. It's different!" uh, Maven...
I’m quoting what Louis said to his sister about Lestat in season 1
Tbf... I have heard that France did have a slightly different relationship with race than other countries did. You were more likely to find legitimized mixed-race heirs in France than anywhere else, where even one distant drop of not-white bloodlines was too much to ever be legitimized. But I dunno exactly how true that actually is or not.
@@MavenoftheEventide I completely forgot about that! Oof, I apologize