Nope, not gonna happen. Its all about the rocket, and SpaceX has a beast in the Falcon 9. Made about 130 successful launches, now launches once a week, put's up close to 60 starlinks at a time. Landed successfully on drone ships 60 to 70 times, A lot of first stage boosters have been reused up to 10 times a piece saving tons of money per launch. No other company or country is even in the ballgame. It's all about the science and engineering and SpaceX rules... Once they get the Starship up and running forget about it......
The Musk fanboy who doesn't understand who controls your internet speed. It's not SpaceX. AT&T, Verizon, Charter and Comcast owns majority of the fiber in the country and dictates your internet connection.
This is still the very beginnings of space. Who knows what space companies will exist in 20 to 30 years from now. Spacex may not be on top of the game anymore. For now, though, Spacex is definitely in the lead. Just because you are the first, doesn't mean you will remain number one forever. But, Kudos to Spacex for their achievements.
SpaceX is not stopping. They already have plans for Starlink 2.0 with laser links, launched on Starship. Way cheaper and more powerful. So, even if Amazon manages to catch-up, SpaceX is still moving even forward.
@@montanaspring7176 There technically are lol. There are hundreds of Starlink 2.0 Minis in orbit right now. However the first Starlink 2.0 satellites are expected to be launched later this year
Here, let me answer that for you: No. Starlink will be complete before Amazon puts even one satellite into space, if they ever do. Saved you 12 minutes.
@@upside_downside_sidewind highly probable...then again its owner just bought $44B worth of social media so i think he might do something about starlink before that don't ya think
The fact that Amazon is depending on 3 different Launch Vehicles that have yet to clear the tower on their first launch is a huge risk. Especially when you consider the number of launches required. SpaceX is using the F9 which has averaged about 1-launch a week for 2022.
@@akyhne Why? The F9 has demonstrated higher reliability than any previous US LV(100+ successful launches in a row) and has demonstrated quick turn around for booster re-use.
Dude, you don't throw away rockets. In fact I think it was a year or two ago when the last Soviet era rocket engine was used up. Also, current research points to two types of rockets being used: Mini orbital rockets and heavy lift vehicles. Since neither are fully invented there will definitely be a mix of rockets used for many years.
@@SDGreg So what! Arianespace has a better launch history, with the Ariane 5, than SpaceX has with the Falcon 9. Just about the same number of launches, with fewer failures.
@@SDGreg And yet, SpaceX needs Starship in order to launch the next gen of satellites, the generation that will finally enable those satellites to talk to each other and not just the ground stations.
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Bezo can't make it to orbit. Without the ability to make it to orbit they can't effectively compete. All 6th grade science students launch rockets that go up and parachutes down.
There is no race. Space X is building new, freshly designed rocket engines, to go in their new huge, reusable rocket, while launching, recovering and reusing their existing rockets. Who else is doing that?
MSNBC CRAP… All Amazon has to do is build a reusable rockets. MSNBC sucks. Blue origin shows no signs of launching anything that’s reusable. $10 Billion is no way near enough…
Lol.. They are not talking about the space race, it is about the Satellite Internet. I think Amazon has an advantage when it comes to service provider. But rooting for the SpaceX.
Oneweb is right to step aside from private customer and move to business/gov market. From the look of it, there's no way they could compete with SpaceX and Amazon who have virtually unlimited funding.
I mean, it's easier to create ground stations than to launch your satellites with different rockets or even catch up with 2k+ SpaceX has already in space. Not to mention, Starlink also testing out Laser communication so it won't need a lot of ground station.
Yeah, I think I'd go with Starlink, even if Kuiper is cheaper. I don't need Scamazon deciding that I can't visit certain websites or shutting down more services that serve things Bezos disagrees with.
And that's what you would have with bezos company. I have FTH so I don't need satellite internet but it's great for rural people. I would definitely use Starlink.
If Kuiper is cheaper then it probably will be CHEAPER, as made in CCP China and not well made or reliable. Jeff isn’t known for making great anything, he just a rich salesman, all talk and cheap marketing. Elon is a hands on maker, invested in his projects and he keeps in touch with as much as he can. I’m glad he had time to take his Mum to the Met …. He’s a good boy !
@@chrisbraid2907 Here we are a year later and this praise of Elon as a smart hands on guy has aged like warm milk. Turns out Elon has come out as a full blown Nazi who spends most of his day trolling and censoring the few good people left on twitter. He is by far, the biggest, dumbest disappointment ever.
@@doggo2995 Yea thats internet company's that mainly needed coders servers and are based on popularity of its content not efficiency or tech. We are talking literal rocket science here.
Short Answer: No. No public company on earth is competitive with SpaceX. Satellites require a launch into orbit. Amazon/Blue Origin has NOT had a single test flight with the New Glenn rocket. The SpaceX Starship is 100% reusable, has a larger payload capacity, and will have a far cheaper "pound to orbit" cost than any other launch company (public or state owned) on earth.
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Amazon has no place giving blue origin a contract for any launches, how is this not being taken to court by Amazon shareholders? Amazon should be going with SpaceX for the launches.
has ULA managed to drop its launch price yet? last i heard (a few years ago now i'll admit) they were still 3 or 4 times to price of a spaceX falcon9. If thats still the norm then thats going to have a big hit on prices or diving into cash reserves
@@TehPoet You think Space-X will launch satellites for a competitor 🤣. It is same reason Google Fiber never took off. As soon as AT&T found out why Google was asking to rent thier Phone poles to string fiber they said no we can do that too. That forced Google to install thier own poles or go underground, both being cost prohibitive.
@@mikevars8979 I'm not convinced SpaceX will see Amazons project Keiper as much of a threat, either way there's space for multiple operators in the industry so I suspect they'd take the money. Until blue origin gets cost competitive with SpaceX (if ever), Starlink will always be cheaper IMO. They already have a huge head start.
It's not a ring as the average distance between objects is about a big as Earth is from the sun. It does refer to the remote and unexplored as most objects there are undiscovered, but we know something is out there because of gravity weirdness.
It's the phone to Satellite service that Motorola developed years ago that is the holy grail. Phones would not require a Cel provider. All phones would be VOIP and connected to the internet. The monthly fee would be or could be less allowing more users. The phones would work anywhere, unlike a cel phone.
I have my doubts, unless the laser link brings huge bandwidth with it which is still very new tech. The bandwidth is still not there and i think they need a crazy amount of satellite just to keep the network replenished, maybe Starship but that thing has extreme engineering challenges ahead of it
Amazon doesn't build rockets. They don't have to compete. They also don't have to send a ludicrous amount of satellites in orbit, like Starlink. So I'd say Amazon has a better chance of success. That of course depends on the service they will provide, and at what cost.
@@akyhne what are you talking about? They do build rockets they have their own space company Blue Origin its just that they failed to do build a successful rocket. The only way project Kuiper succeeds is if Blue Origin is able to compete to send up satellites. But if Starlink is the only game in town that can do it faster and cheaper then nobody can compete besides like Governments that are willing to take on losses. Project Kuiper has been around for a while and they have to launch any satellites and have no definitive dates to do so. Meanwhile Starlink is launching close to 50 a month and he'll be able to launch more when SpaceX starship is complete.
@@NPAMike Amazon and BO are two different companies. BO does have a successfull rocket, just not for satellite launches... yet. And there are customers for both - more customers, than Starlink can handle. Wheter one or the other is cheaper, only time can tell. You can bet on, that Amazon don't start this project, if they can't compete on price and service. "He" doesn't have a working Starship. So until "he" can stop blowing up his prototypes, it's a concept only.
@@akyhne Blue Origin and Kuiper is practically one in the same they are both owned by Bezos and Starlink doesn't need Starship because the Falcon 9 has already been deploying Satellites. Starship would increase their capacity to send up more. Even if Starship never launches Falcon 9 will still be available. Where as Kuiper can't even get a working satellite in space.
By disturbing satellite signal from a weak earth signal , resulting from shifting satellite communication from channel to channel to creating o and 1 is it possible to attain reliable connection between satellite and ordinary mobile phones ?.
Caveat: This is also how Amazon can reduce their tax burden. We don't tax the construction of job producing infrastructure, which was how Amazon's soaring growth allowed them to get out of taxes. But since that dried up and they started paying last year, this is Mr Bezos new high growth project.
Which I think is ok, if they pay that money in taxes, no innovation would be done by the government. The issus with tax reduction is when that money is used only to by luxuries (which I understand Bezos does, don't get me wrong, but innovation outstands)
there are fifty codes in the federal budget that money gets put into...if you can get access to that you have an idea of the money but basically they were smart to create these space companies to get that money.
@@LennarthAnaya Dude NASA got to the moon, remember? The government can fund innovation, when it decides to. But it tends to only do what benefits the rich, same with Amazon and SpaceX. They may bring satellite internet to rural places but only because it makes them even richer
While I like my Starlink, if Amazon shows up with a lower priced solution I'll look at switching. I'm in a very rural part of Montana that has no internet and no cell phone service, so until Starlink showed up there was no viable solutions (ViaSat/Hughes are too clunky).
How many satellites do you think are going up? Here is a demonstration: grab a pin, the little pointy thing, and hold it up over your head. How much shade is that? Extrapolate.
Maybe our lawyers can team up afterwards? He promises a lot, takes a lot and delivers nothing. They are no different, one just has a cult that follows him.
@@callmethreeone When your hatred makes you delusional you should look in the mirror. At least as out of touch as the fanboys. And probably even more than most of them.
@@actionjksn LOL! WTF are you talking about? Did you just go on some zen retreat, or did you just hear that statement somewhere and wanted to use it as much as possible? Even philosophers know you do not start a sentence with "and". Hatred has nothing to do with breach of contract, you are delusional.
We are getting same speed internet from spectrum for $60 per month. It may be good for village and remote area where regular internet providers can't provide service.
They can buy and and share by wireless network. 100Mbps is big enough for 6 households with serving 20-40 people in normal usage. Do you know Vietnamese ISP charges over $700 for 25Mbps international bandwidth(domestic bandwith is big but only for domestic service). Those places is not developing cities at all. They are developed cities. So, for many rural areas/developing cities, it's huge deal without infrastructure for it.
Bigger satellite neds bigger rocket, for Amazon to launch with falcon9 will need 150 launches in the next three years not 84 like with those bigger launching vehicles that they chooses, and probably SpaceX cannot do that in top of their own starlink and other comercial launches.
Pricing, maybe? If SpaceX wants to make money on their rockets, they have two choices: Charge the same price for Starlink, as other costumers. Overcharge other companies, to get cheap launches for Starlink.
@@raviachoudhary for the Vulcan Centaur and Ariane6 price per kg into LEO is around the same (to falcon9 I mean) , for New Glenn I have no idea , but the main point is that only with falcon9 and heavy SpaceX cannot satisfy entire demands for new satellites launch, unless they can launch 100 times per year at least.
This would be the realm of local providers using satellite internet as backhaul in lieu of dedicated network connectivity back to the internet as a whole. There is no way for mobile phones to be effective in connecting to the satellite and maintaining the type of connection needed to stream video from the internet.
Are they second? There could definitely be other companies that start putting up internet sats before Amazon. As far as Blue Origin they are not even close to second place. Multiple companies with a lot less money who are way ahead of Blue Origin.
Sorry, but Elon is light years ahead. He’s got the advantage of having the most advanced rockets and the most advanced satellites. Amazon might be competitive, but SpaceX is the Apple of satellite internet technology.
Amazon has to pay a lot of money to other companies to launch their satellites. SpaceX can launch their own which saves a huge amount of money. Amazon is quite a few years away from being able to launch their own with Blue Origin. The CEO Bob Smith of Blue Origin is clueless and incompetent. He's a professional micromanager who does not know how to get orbital rockets built. He didn't even bother to try and scale up the design of New Shepherd for a temporary fix until New Glen is ready, which is many years from now. Bezos can go ahead and live his luxurious lifestyle and leave everything to Bob Smith, instead of getting in there and pushing everything to produce viable rockets, and everything will continue as it is with bleeding money and accomplishing nothing, except flying movie stars on the short sub orbital flights in that little toy that they have. They should be well ahead of SpaceX yet they are not even in 3rd place. Way to Bob. Usually people that arrogant have big accomplishments.
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@@samsonsoturian6013 it would two businesses working together to build helpful infrastructure in space, also Chip makers have a monopoly and no one says anything about that
@@publicspeaker4009 chip makers plural? That's an oxymoron. There are over 20 chip manufacturers each serving customers all over the world. Your mixup cones from how it's a high-capital long-cycle business, meaning if any two factories shut down significant price increases will occur. And that's exactly what did happen with the combined quarantine plus drought in Taiwan (world's largest chip maker).
@@samsonsoturian6013 their are two main chip makers holding a duopoly in the computer market and two main chip makers in the smartphone market, also this isn’t a university paper it’s a UA-cam comment section their is no need to type like that.
@@publicspeaker4009 two is not a monopoly and I'd have to fact check that but having a near monopoly on highly specific in-demand chips isn't surprising. Kinda like how there's one supermarket in my hometown. Sure there are general stores and a Walmart 30 miles away but everyone shops there at least occasionally.
To answer you question can Amazon compete with SpaceX. Yes, with difficulty with internet. They will remain an also ran but they can afford to do so. But Amazon is walling themselves off into their ecosystem and SpaceX is making a bigger play. It is always interesting to hear business perspectives when technology is driving. If Amazon can build a phased array antenna for $500 then they should spin that off and become a prime Defense contractor. If it isn't phased array then they have eliminated almost all the mobile applications possible at anything like an acceptable data rate. Spacex has already passed the point where Amazon's ground facilities give it any advantage. There is a ton more but for the foreseeable future Starlink has a huge lead and will retain it.
Do you know what Amazon is famous for? Cheap stuff. Of course they can sell it for under $500 but how good it is and how long it will lasts, that is anyone's guess,
That is made wrong. Each satelite need to be a server, a giant router and a giant solar battery. Should work with the same wireless antenas that still exist, only a simple log-in like always. And the bill? Two or three dollars a month. Every 8 billion people could afford.
Why don't you do that 30% of the world a favour and don't give them internet. You'll be surprised how happy some of these people are living a simpler life. Social media jealousy is a problem in the first world countries.
Amazon explained that accessing their hosted web services would be faster (for obvious reason) It could change Net Neutrality and incentivise hosting with Amazon. I don’t think that’s a good thing, even if it is an innocent byproduct.
Of course, copycat Besos says Amazon will spend $10B on satellites...2 years after SpaceX said they'd spend $10B. Too bad Besos can't "get them up" on their own...more from David Limp 😂
Nope, not gonna happen. Its all about the rocket, and SpaceX has a beast in the Falcon 9. Made about 130 successful launches, now launches once a week, put's up close to 60 starlinks at a time. Landed successfully on drone ships 60 to 70 times, A lot of first stage boosters have been reused up to 10 times a piece saving tons of money per launch. No other company or country is even in the ballgame. It's all about the science and engineering and SpaceX rules... Once they get the Starship up and running forget about it......
That's binary thinking: one or the other. And that never happens. Its about the space economy and market.
CNBC is not considering the technical side of the stuff... Hahahahahha
It has landed more than 100 times now.
The Musk fanboy who doesn't understand who controls your internet speed. It's not SpaceX. AT&T, Verizon, Charter and Comcast owns majority of the fiber in the country and dictates your internet connection.
@@zeitgeistx5239 Elon haters who don't understand SpaceX has a deal with both Google and Microsoft to provide internet.
Competition is good, but SpaceX is the only company with a rapidly reusable rocket
Blue origin can't even launch rocket to orbit yet lol
This is still the very beginnings of space. Who knows what space companies will exist in 20 to 30 years from now. Spacex may not be on top of the game anymore. For now, though, Spacex is definitely in the lead. Just because you are the first, doesn't mean you will remain number one forever. But, Kudos to Spacex for their achievements.
"rapidly reusable"??
@@a55tech yes exactly that
SpaceX is not stopping. They already have plans for Starlink 2.0 with laser links, launched on Starship. Way cheaper and more powerful. So, even if Amazon manages to catch-up, SpaceX is still moving even forward.
Ueaaah go Jeff Bezos I bet I'll get to Space before you , Cheaper than you 100% live long and prosper!
wrong. there isn't one 2.0 sat in space.
@@montanaspring7176 There technically are lol. There are hundreds of Starlink 2.0 Minis in orbit right now. However the first Starlink 2.0 satellites are expected to be launched later this year
Here, let me answer that for you: No. Starlink will be complete before Amazon puts even one satellite into space, if they ever do. Saved you 12 minutes.
Thank you
Correction: spacex will go broke before they can complete starlink
@@upside_downside_sidewind highly probable...then again its owner just bought $44B worth of social media so i think he might do something about starlink before that don't ya think
@@upside_downside_sidewind Why will they? lol
@@nicolasnava5717 He didn't buy anything yet.
sounds to me like they are just buying the contracts to placate ULA by offsetting the loss of revenue through late BE-4 engines
The fact that Amazon is depending on 3 different Launch Vehicles that have yet to clear the tower on their first launch is a huge risk. Especially when you consider the number of launches required. SpaceX is using the F9 which has averaged about 1-launch a week for 2022.
It's not a bigger risk, than using SpaceX.
@@akyhne Why? The F9 has demonstrated higher reliability than any previous US LV(100+ successful launches in a row) and has demonstrated quick turn around for booster re-use.
Dude, you don't throw away rockets. In fact I think it was a year or two ago when the last Soviet era rocket engine was used up.
Also, current research points to two types of rockets being used: Mini orbital rockets and heavy lift vehicles. Since neither are fully invented there will definitely be a mix of rockets used for many years.
@@SDGreg So what! Arianespace has a better launch history, with the Ariane 5, than SpaceX has with the Falcon 9. Just about the same number of launches, with fewer failures.
@@SDGreg And yet, SpaceX needs Starship in order to launch the next gen of satellites, the generation that will finally enable those satellites to talk to each other and not just the ground stations.
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Bezos has no chance against Elon!
Bezo can't make it to orbit. Without the ability to make it to orbit they can't effectively compete. All 6th grade science students launch rockets that go up and parachutes down.
I never did that 😭
4:40:40 AM (yep!)
5/3/2022
There is no race. Space X is building new, freshly designed rocket engines, to go in their new huge, reusable rocket, while launching, recovering and reusing their existing rockets. Who else is doing that?
MSNBC CRAP… All Amazon has to do is build a reusable rockets. MSNBC sucks. Blue origin shows no signs of launching anything that’s reusable. $10 Billion is no way near enough…
Lol.. They are not talking about the space race, it is about the Satellite Internet. I think Amazon has an advantage when it comes to service provider. But rooting for the SpaceX.
@@johnnykhai6674 The biggest expense is launching them. They don't have any rockets. And the launching is an ongoing huge expense.
what happens with the second stage? does it burn up?
A few mistakes in the video. Starlink has about 2800 working satellites and 600,000 customers. They expect to have over 1 million by winter 2023
I'm posting in September 23 and they now have over 2 million users. In my opinion this is going to be a case of first to market wins.
@@paulbailey1215Yup. And once Starship is operational, it’s truly game over.
July 2024, we're at ~ 3 million users.
Oneweb is right to step aside from private customer and move to business/gov market. From the look of it, there's no way they could compete with SpaceX and Amazon who have virtually unlimited funding.
I mean, it's easier to create ground stations than to launch your satellites with different rockets or even catch up with 2k+ SpaceX has already in space. Not to mention, Starlink also testing out Laser communication so it won't need a lot of ground station.
Yeah, I think I'd go with Starlink, even if Kuiper is cheaper. I don't need Scamazon deciding that I can't visit certain websites or shutting down more services that serve things Bezos disagrees with.
And that's what you would have with bezos company. I have FTH so I don't need satellite internet but it's great for rural people. I would definitely use Starlink.
If Kuiper is cheaper then it probably will be CHEAPER, as made in CCP China and not well made or reliable. Jeff isn’t known for making great anything, he just a rich salesman, all talk and cheap marketing. Elon is a hands on maker, invested in his projects and he keeps in touch with as much as he can. I’m glad he had time to take his Mum to the Met …. He’s a good boy !
LoL ekon stan 🤡, u think as if Elon & his shareholders will do something that Bezos won't do. 8$ job copium one aren't you huh.
@@chrisbraid2907 Here we are a year later and this praise of Elon as a smart hands on guy has aged like warm milk. Turns out Elon has come out as a full blown Nazi who spends most of his day trolling and censoring the few good people left on twitter. He is by far, the biggest, dumbest disappointment ever.
CNBS forgets to mention that SpaceX launches their own rockets themself, and has a great track-record of reusability.
CNBS forgot to mention Starlink was created by Elon Musk.
This Amazon guy is a lot more honest and likable than Jeff Who.
2,3,10 times - a year? Verses about 2 times a week for SpaceX?
No contest.
Did we think Tiktok could challenge Facebook? Or Disney Plus with Netflix? Things could change going into the 30's and 2040's
@@doggo2995 Yea thats internet company's that mainly needed coders servers and are based on popularity of its content not efficiency or tech. We are talking literal rocket science here.
@@RasakBlood very true
Caleb Henry, the guy they interviewed is a great analyst. Puts everything in perspective.
One year later ... zero satellites deployed.
This century nobody can and will be beat Elon musk.
except me
@@Victor-oy8bj Named a part of your body Elon Musk?
u might as well start a religion worshipping him as the next jesus
@@alstud1 lmfao underrated comment
Cringeworthy Elon stans, geez might well polish the boots
Amazon: We will.
SpaceX: Did that.
Amazon prime with this service will be huge.
Sounds like a bot wrote this
It is very realistic to compare something that exists with something that does not :)
Short Answer: No.
No public company on earth is competitive with SpaceX. Satellites require a launch into orbit. Amazon/Blue Origin has NOT had a single test flight with the New Glenn rocket. The SpaceX Starship is 100% reusable, has a larger payload capacity, and will have a far cheaper "pound to orbit" cost than any other launch company (public or state owned) on earth.
Honestly - wouldn't trust Amazon with my raw web traffic. It is bad enough that so many services use AWS.
Ad block. Get one.
@@samsonsoturian6013 I think a vpn would be more useful.
@@UnCoolDad I followed the Eero router for 3 years, from 16-19 years old, with intent on getting one. My desires passed when they bought the company. I wholly understand.
lol. what an uninformed comment. AWS has nothing to do with your data. it's the clients of AWS that has something to do with your data. AWS is just a infrastructure that these other companies/individuals use to run their services and applications.
@@iamwisdomsky it is Amazons infrastructure. They have full access to everything.
-Talk about the user terminals costing $1'300 each
-Show the new user terminal which is now half the cost
What a joke.
Exactly! I can't believe the amount of cherry picking
Yes it can host satelite internet and TV services soon for remote locations as well
Anyone else got triggered by the constant mispronunciation of Ariane Space?
Great video for "when" they get satellites in space.
Thanks for this insightful video comparison between these two amazing companies. Well worth watching, not to mention there're my favourite companies!
Amazon has no place giving blue origin a contract for any launches, how is this not being taken to court by Amazon shareholders? Amazon should be going with SpaceX for the launches.
Two different legal entities.
And now they’re going with SpaceX because of a lawsuit! Lol
Spacex is flying circles around these fools.
bezos space ambitions compare to spacex as a toddler to a grownup man. not a chance to compete. bezos' neediness to copy elon is soo cringy...
has ULA managed to drop its launch price yet? last i heard (a few years ago now i'll admit) they were still 3 or 4 times to price of a spaceX falcon9. If thats still the norm then thats going to have a big hit on prices or diving into cash reserves
I think that Bezos should swallow his pride and go with cheaper launch providers like SpaceX.
@@TehPoet You think Space-X will launch satellites for a competitor 🤣. It is same reason Google Fiber never took off. As soon as AT&T found out why Google was asking to rent thier Phone poles to string fiber they said no we can do that too. That forced Google to install thier own poles or go underground, both being cost prohibitive.
@@mikevars8979 I'm not convinced SpaceX will see Amazons project Keiper as much of a threat, either way there's space for multiple operators in the industry so I suspect they'd take the money. Until blue origin gets cost competitive with SpaceX (if ever), Starlink will always be cheaper IMO. They already have a huge head start.
@@TehPoet SpaceX is overbooked for a long time
@@mikevars8979 Even SpaceX wouldn't leave a 6 to billion dollar deal on the table because of competition. Understand the space market dynamics
SpaceX! Way better
Thanks CNBC for the information
Can enough people who Jeff is targeting afford the monthly subscription to make this profitable?
Blue Origin hasn't even reach orbit. Enough said.
Oooof that hurt.
Amazon needs to bow out😊
Free with Prime.
Prime prices triple.
SpaceX gave its system a name that evokes connecting with the sky. Amazon names its constellation after a ring of asteroid debris.
Regardless they will both be debris in the sky
@@Kushert Nope. It’s only a problem if people stupidly continue launching anti-satellite missiles at them. Otherwise, it’s fine.
It's not a ring as the average distance between objects is about a big as Earth is from the sun. It does refer to the remote and unexplored as most objects there are undiscovered, but we know something is out there because of gravity weirdness.
@@regolith1350 you do know that Keplar Syndrome is a thing, right?
@@regolith1350 they already had some fall.
Fascinating. Great video
It's the phone to Satellite service that Motorola developed years ago that is the holy grail. Phones would not require a Cel provider. All phones would be VOIP and connected to the internet. The monthly fee would be or could be less allowing more users. The phones would work anywhere, unlike a cel phone.
I have my doubts, unless the laser link brings huge bandwidth with it which is still very new tech. The bandwidth is still not there and i think they need a crazy amount of satellite just to keep the network replenished, maybe Starship but that thing has extreme engineering challenges ahead of it
Though SpaceX had a tremendous leap but for consumers competition is good. I hope they succeed in my lifetime.
Indeed, the problem is that it has no competition.
Amazon can't compete they can't even launch into space. SpaceX Starlink works because they can get up into space cheaper.
Amazon doesn't build rockets. They don't have to compete.
They also don't have to send a ludicrous amount of satellites in orbit, like Starlink. So I'd say Amazon has a better chance of success.
That of course depends on the service they will provide, and at what cost.
@@akyhne what are you talking about? They do build rockets they have their own space company Blue Origin its just that they failed to do build a successful rocket. The only way project Kuiper succeeds is if Blue Origin is able to compete to send up satellites. But if Starlink is the only game in town that can do it faster and cheaper then nobody can compete besides like Governments that are willing to take on losses. Project Kuiper has been around for a while and they have to launch any satellites and have no definitive dates to do so. Meanwhile Starlink is launching close to 50 a month and he'll be able to launch more when SpaceX starship is complete.
@@NPAMike Amazon and BO are two different companies. BO does have a successfull rocket, just not for satellite launches... yet. And there are customers for both - more customers, than Starlink can handle.
Wheter one or the other is cheaper, only time can tell. You can bet on, that Amazon don't start this project, if they can't compete on price and service.
"He" doesn't have a working Starship. So until "he" can stop blowing up his prototypes, it's a concept only.
@@akyhne Blue Origin and Kuiper is practically one in the same they are both owned by Bezos and Starlink doesn't need Starship because the Falcon 9 has already been deploying Satellites. Starship would increase their capacity to send up more. Even if Starship never launches Falcon 9 will still be available. Where as Kuiper can't even get a working satellite in space.
@@akyhne Which BO's "successfull rocket" are you talking about?
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By disturbing satellite signal from a weak earth signal , resulting from shifting satellite communication from channel to channel to creating o and 1 is it possible to attain reliable connection between satellite and ordinary mobile phones ?.
Nice video.
Caveat: This is also how Amazon can reduce their tax burden. We don't tax the construction of job producing infrastructure, which was how Amazon's soaring growth allowed them to get out of taxes. But since that dried up and they started paying last year, this is Mr Bezos new high growth project.
Which I think is ok, if they pay that money in taxes, no innovation would be done by the government. The issus with tax reduction is when that money is used only to by luxuries (which I understand Bezos does, don't get me wrong, but innovation outstands)
there are fifty codes in the federal budget that money gets put into...if you can get access to that you have an idea of the money but basically they were smart to create these space companies to get that money.
@@LennarthAnaya that doesn't stop the torrent of bogus tax fraud allegations...
@@LennarthAnaya Dude NASA got to the moon, remember? The government can fund innovation, when it decides to. But it tends to only do what benefits the rich, same with Amazon and SpaceX. They may bring satellite internet to rural places but only because it makes them even richer
@@ThomasBomb45 right, I don't trust any of them, it's nice somehow they decide to innovate rather than buying more land and yachtes polluting oceans
While I like my Starlink, if Amazon shows up with a lower priced solution I'll look at switching. I'm in a very rural part of Montana that has no internet and no cell phone service, so until Starlink showed up there was no viable solutions (ViaSat/Hughes are too clunky).
Musk will just lower his prices to blow Bezos out.. Bezos cannot compete
like all things, prices will decline in time.
I live in Montana having Zero intentions using any Amazon stuff where 80% is Manufactured in China
@@jenpaulcummins1122 dude almost everything you buy is made in china. Grow up. The phone your or lab top your typing on was probably made in china
Ultimately one is a better human being and the other is Dr. Evil. Take your pick.
Let’s hope this turns into a US/USSR style space race! Nothing like competition to accelerate progress!
This might be a stupid question. Can we engineer these satellites to reflect more sunlight back into space to combat climate change?
they do that already, as the solar panels are oriented to catch as much sunlight as possible :).
How many satellites do you think are going up? Here is a demonstration: grab a pin, the little pointy thing, and hold it up over your head. How much shade is that? Extrapolate.
Remember like Elon said, Bezo can't get it up. Simple and to the point.
There is no competition
Literally anything I can to do use a Musk company over a Bezos company, I will do.
Maybe our lawyers can team up afterwards? He promises a lot, takes a lot and delivers nothing. They are no different, one just has a cult that follows him.
@@callmethreeone When your hatred makes you delusional you should look in the mirror. At least as out of touch as the fanboys. And probably even more than most of them.
@@actionjksn LOL! WTF are you talking about? Did you just go on some zen retreat, or did you just hear that statement somewhere and wanted to use it as much as possible?
Even philosophers know you do not start a sentence with "and". Hatred has nothing to do with breach of contract, you are delusional.
We are getting same speed internet from spectrum for $60 per month. It may be good for village and remote area where regular internet providers can't provide service.
Fiber + 5G for urban areas. Satellite everywhere else
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I understand completely why they should compete...$$$
But why not combine strenghts and help humanity forward in space?
Space only has room for one of those egos.
110 dollars a month is way too much for most people living in the developing world..so good luck with that
They can buy and and share by wireless network. 100Mbps is big enough for 6 households with serving 20-40 people in normal usage.
Do you know Vietnamese ISP charges over $700 for 25Mbps international bandwidth(domestic bandwith is big but only for domestic service). Those places is not developing cities at all. They are developed cities.
So, for many rural areas/developing cities, it's huge deal without infrastructure for it.
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Will these satellites allow us to call anywhere on the planet or use the internet on our phones anywhere on the planet?
Why wouldn't it make more sense to tie up with Spacex & launch as soon as possible?
Bigger satellite neds bigger rocket, for Amazon to launch with falcon9 will need 150 launches in the next three years not 84 like with those bigger launching vehicles that they chooses, and probably SpaceX cannot do that in top of their own starlink and other comercial launches.
Pricing, maybe?
If SpaceX wants to make money on their rockets, they have two choices:
Charge the same price for Starlink, as other costumers.
Overcharge other companies, to get cheap launches for Starlink.
@@theOrionsarms Okay. So these launch vehicles are bigger than falcon 9, what about the cost, isn't it cheaper?
@@raviachoudhary for the Vulcan Centaur and Ariane6 price per kg into LEO is around the same (to falcon9 I mean) , for New Glenn I have no idea , but the main point is that only with falcon9 and heavy SpaceX cannot satisfy entire demands for new satellites launch, unless they can launch 100 times per year at least.
The only way for them to get a lot of customers is to make it work with cell phones.
This would be the realm of local providers using satellite internet as backhaul in lieu of dedicated network connectivity back to the internet as a whole. There is no way for mobile phones to be effective in connecting to the satellite and maintaining the type of connection needed to stream video from the internet.
@@DonFanningThe I just want to have the ability to text when I'm outside of cell tower coverage. That would be super useful.
@@djp1234 It's been possible to do that for a long time. Buy a Iridium or Globalstar networked phone. :P
@@DonFanningThe but I don’t want to carry an extra phone. I want my smartphone to have that functionality built in.
Amazon shall always be 2nd to Elon Musk 😊
Are they second? There could definitely be other companies that start putting up internet sats before Amazon.
As far as Blue Origin they are not even close to second place. Multiple companies with a lot less money who are way ahead of Blue Origin.
Can’t believe he said Ariane Spaasss😂🚀
Sorry, but Elon is light years ahead. He’s got the advantage of having the most advanced rockets and the most advanced satellites. Amazon might be competitive, but SpaceX is the Apple of satellite internet technology.
Amazon has to pay a lot of money to other companies to launch their satellites. SpaceX can launch their own which saves a huge amount of money.
Amazon is quite a few years away from being able to launch their own with Blue Origin. The CEO Bob Smith of Blue Origin is clueless and incompetent. He's a professional micromanager who does not know how to get orbital rockets built.
He didn't even bother to try and scale up the design of New Shepherd for a temporary fix until New Glen is ready, which is many years from now.
Bezos can go ahead and live his luxurious lifestyle and leave everything to Bob Smith, instead of getting in there and pushing everything to produce viable rockets, and everything will continue as it is with bleeding money and accomplishing nothing, except flying movie stars on the short sub orbital flights in that little toy that they have.
They should be well ahead of SpaceX yet they are not even in 3rd place. Way to Bob. Usually people that arrogant have big accomplishments.
Thanks this was some nutritious information
Not everyone uses AWS so the guy isn't 100% right but only 20% willing to tell real truth.
Amazon is a 'me too' company, and their deliveries are often missing something that I ordered.
personally i think theres enough space for starlink and amazons project kuiper
It is good to have competition and alternative.
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What click bait, there is no rivalry between Mr"never been to space". And the WORLD leader in space flight.
Why don’t they just work with space X
Money. A true open market requires there to be competition (business monopolies are illegal).
@@samsonsoturian6013 it would two businesses working together to build helpful infrastructure in space, also Chip makers have a monopoly and no one says anything about that
@@publicspeaker4009 chip makers plural? That's an oxymoron. There are over 20 chip manufacturers each serving customers all over the world.
Your mixup cones from how it's a high-capital long-cycle business, meaning if any two factories shut down significant price increases will occur. And that's exactly what did happen with the combined quarantine plus drought in Taiwan (world's largest chip maker).
@@samsonsoturian6013 their are two main chip makers holding a duopoly in the computer market and two main chip makers in the smartphone market, also this isn’t a university paper it’s a UA-cam comment section their is no need to type like that.
@@publicspeaker4009 two is not a monopoly and I'd have to fact check that but having a near monopoly on highly specific in-demand chips isn't surprising. Kinda like how there's one supermarket in my hometown. Sure there are general stores and a Walmart 30 miles away but everyone shops there at least occasionally.
AWS provides direct connect
At Jeff'y pace , we should see this after he catches an asteroid.
and the other question is can they get to orbit? they can, but the question is When.
About 2030.
All 3 launch providers combined still can't even begin to compete Spacex's current launch candance of 3 launches a month.
.... and the cost.
Even Blue Origin and Amazon would have to have a mark up between them. (If they actually flew anything to orbit…)
To answer you question can Amazon compete with SpaceX. Yes, with difficulty with internet. They will remain an also ran but they can afford to do so. But Amazon is walling themselves off into their ecosystem and SpaceX is making a bigger play. It is always interesting to hear business perspectives when technology is driving. If Amazon can build a phased array antenna for $500 then they should spin that off and become a prime Defense contractor. If it isn't phased array then they have eliminated almost all the mobile applications possible at anything like an acceptable data rate. Spacex has already passed the point where Amazon's ground facilities give it any advantage.
There is a ton more but for the foreseeable future Starlink has a huge lead and will retain it.
Do you know what Amazon is famous for? Cheap stuff. Of course they can sell it for under $500 but how good it is and how long it will lasts, that is anyone's guess,
@@Theoryofcatsndogs Amazon sells cheap Chinese goods that flooded the market. They don't build manufacture anything themselves.
@@Gnosim most companies don't have their own factory now, not even as big as Apple.
That is made wrong. Each satelite need to be a server, a giant router and a giant solar battery. Should work with the same wireless antenas that still exist, only a simple log-in like always. And the bill? Two or three dollars a month. Every 8 billion people could afford.
Its Arianespace, as in "SPACE".
Why don't you do that 30% of the world a favour and don't give them internet. You'll be surprised how happy some of these people are living a simpler life. Social media jealousy is a problem in the first world countries.
Should be free for the whole world.
Don't be silly. You need to pay the men that build and maintain this.
#CNBC #SpaceX
He'll never get it off the ground!
Google Fiber is hardly offered anywhere
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What?! I went to college with that Caleb Henry kid!
Amazon explained that accessing their hosted web services would be faster (for obvious reason) It could change Net Neutrality and incentivise hosting with Amazon.
I don’t think that’s a good thing, even if it is an innocent byproduct.
Of course, copycat Besos says Amazon will spend $10B on satellites...2 years after SpaceX said they'd spend $10B. Too bad Besos can't "get them up" on their own...more from David Limp 😂
Where are my engines, Jeff?