I Removed The DEAD Prototype Battery In My 2 Million Dollar Concept Van! SHOCKING Cost To Replace!

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  • @LegitStreetCars
    @LegitStreetCars  Рік тому +48

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    • @wstreff
      @wstreff Рік тому

      Are we going to get a winter meet up to fill the van with goods for the holidays? Legit winter rides are a thing. Miss the ML55 content.

    • @DanStMary
      @DanStMary Рік тому

      Natural laws one if them is The law of attraction 🧲

    • @hashtagtnt
      @hashtagtnt Рік тому +1

      I must try those dry towels they look great, wondering how long it takes for them to dry themselves :).

    • @adamhonda98
      @adamhonda98 Рік тому +5

      I think it's time to install a door handle in your space van

    • @skyyy5150
      @skyyy5150 Рік тому

      Thank you Alex for another video to enjoy on my weekend off. Honestly thought we were gonna be left on the hook until the delorean vid.

  • @epullenlouisville
    @epullenlouisville Рік тому +2275

    You really should pull the hard drive out of the PC controller and make a disk image of it before it goes bad. Once you have that, you can easily fix any issues by just swapping the various PC components, but without the image you wouldn’t have the code used.

    • @rysterstech
      @rysterstech Рік тому +116

      this is an amazing piece of insight right here.

    • @deanirwin3645
      @deanirwin3645 Рік тому +24

      For Sure...

    • @vaibhavdlv
      @vaibhavdlv Рік тому +107

      This - maybe image it onto a SSD just for kicks!!

    • @Onewheelordeal
      @Onewheelordeal Рік тому +22

      Adding comment for bump

    • @PawelTylinski
      @PawelTylinski Рік тому +72

      @@vaibhavdlv it should speed-up system a lot:) also solid state drive will be much more robust in the vehicle then drive with spining discs

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy Рік тому +884

    Now that you've got the computer booting up I'd HIGHLY recommend cloning the drive twice. You do NOT want to lose that OS. And while you're at it clone onto an SSD. It'll use less power and won't be susceptible to vibrations when in motion.

    • @sgfreak96
      @sgfreak96 Рік тому +25

      Huge thumbs up to this, hopefully he can get it backed up and running from an SSD. Beyond the SSD being not susceptible to vibrations, it should help substantially with the boot times of the system too.

    • @rysterstech
      @rysterstech Рік тому

      it already has an ssd, its just a 2.5 ide ssd, i didnt know those existed until now@@sgfreak96

    • @MyAdventurr
      @MyAdventurr Рік тому +13

      While at it on cloning, it may serve as an interesting collab or project for developers to unravel and potentially find features to upgrade. Not a developer but that would seem pretty neat if possible through open sourcing it.

    • @C.JG.
      @C.JG. Рік тому +2

      Sure thing that HDD is IDE, with Win98. no SSD will have IDE.

    • @fxckrio
      @fxckrio Рік тому +17

      ​@@C.JG. The system has an IDE SSD in it lmao, it was shown in a previous episode.
      There's a few IDE SSDs made for embedded purposes, transcend and apacer made some, alternatively compactflash cards use the same protocol as ide and can be used with a simple passive adapter. There's options.

  • @danielolsen1530
    @danielolsen1530 Рік тому +136

    As every second comment on this video, you NEED to clone the hdd / ssd in your computer and have a backup. It's a very easy procedure and there will be a lot of people who can help you if you need it. That should be your number one item, before doing anything else. Other things you can fix, replace as needed, but if that disk dies you won't be able to recover it.

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 Рік тому +1

      Yes, it can be recovered, as long as the discs aren't physically damaged. It's just harder to do.

    • @danielolsen1530
      @danielolsen1530 Рік тому +1

      @@shelbyseelbach9568 May be able to be recovered, if you are lucky, and at great cost, vs taking an image of it while it's working. The image needs to be made now (hopefully it already has been).

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 Рік тому

      @@danielolsen1530 That's in stark contrast to your "if that disc dies you won't be able to recover it" statement. My only point was that it was an inaccurate statement, dead discs are recovered all the time and have been forever. Just saying. Of course, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, but the pound of cure does, indeed, exist. All the best, my friend.

    • @videojuegos9379
      @videojuegos9379 Рік тому

      @@shelbyseelbach9568 the cure is 300-1500 dollars, vs $30 for a new drive. He should probably back it up

  • @phr3dmcc0y
    @phr3dmcc0y Рік тому +34

    the screen might have some calibration for touch. In fact, Since it is windows XP, you might be able to get into the OS itself to install a device driver and calibrate the screen. XP was a *VERY GOOD* Operating system. Also, I suggest you clone that drive so that the software has a back up.

  • @gregkrueger331
    @gregkrueger331 Рік тому +75

    I’m a Control Systems Engineer and seeing that incredibly simple HMI display on screen takes me back lol. When programming was simple.

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @axy_cz
      @axy_cz Рік тому

      @@Abril-km7vono

    • @FiatUno2003
      @FiatUno2003 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Abril-km7vonah

  • @weedfreer
    @weedfreer Рік тому +51

    With the new screen, you may need to use the associated windows screen software/drivers to recalibrate your touch screen such that the mode is properly calibrated to where you’re touching on the screen

  • @jeffsanders7691
    @jeffsanders7691 Рік тому +10

    I really love how supportive the whole UA-cam car community is. I’ve only been subscribed since the beginning of this space-van adventure, and your channel has quickly become one of my favorites on UA-cam!

  • @ebaystars
    @ebaystars Рік тому +25

    As an engineer it's heartbreaking to see so much work they did which ostensibly went nowhere, such is commercial life, large corporations with more money just use the concepts developed by early engineers then with nasty boardroom techniques they jump over the originators and wash them off the ship. This car is an amazing example of that culture to me at least.

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 Рік тому +154

    This is where legit street cars content meets archeology meets technology troubleshooting meets Saturday morning fun. Kudos for being stubborn enough to keep trying on this thing Alex.

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому +1

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @crazypeoplearoundtheworld304
      @crazypeoplearoundtheworld304 Рік тому

      ​@@Abril-km7vohe's a fake god and the man who invented him was a pervert.

    • @AB-these-handles-are-stupid
      @AB-these-handles-are-stupid Рік тому

      Makes for a good video.

    • @FiatUno2003
      @FiatUno2003 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Abril-km7vonah

  • @timothyzwart7412
    @timothyzwart7412 Рік тому +18

    Just a thought. Looking at the inside of the back door there’s a panel that has screws holding it on. For your safety I would recommend you remove the panel for the time being. That way if you are inside the van and the door closes behind you. You should be able to get to the back of the latch from inside the van and open the door.

    • @christ510
      @christ510 Рік тому +2

      Uhhh uhhh no way!! im anticipating him getting locked in again lool.

    • @54raceman
      @54raceman Рік тому

      Funny thing is the latch has a loop that he could clip a carabiner on to and not have to worry about it (I’ve done it before on my buddies work van when the inside handle didn’t work so it couldn’t latch on us)

  • @johnp.2267
    @johnp.2267 Рік тому +38

    Wild thought, and this might not be a popular one:
    You're likely going to have to backtrace *all* of your wiring to find out what goes where, and what's unnecessary, to prevent potential shorts and excess battery drain. This could also help diagnose those mystery sounds that happen when you try to use seemingly non-working devices.

    • @feelincrispy7053
      @feelincrispy7053 Рік тому +2

      Sometimes when you don’t have wiring diagrams this really is the only way. There are some shortcuts and devices you can use but there really is no full proof substitute for physically tracing wires into modules. Especially when they reuse colours over and over

  • @FemiShonubi
    @FemiShonubi Рік тому +29

    Loving the intros Alex! The energy giving updates from past videos leading into what’s to come and perfectly tuned background music that climaxes just as you finish is just sweet. Another win today with the screen… It all adds up.🎉 Good job to you and everyone providing support in whatever form.

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому +1

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

  • @digitalblasphemy1100
    @digitalblasphemy1100 Рік тому +7

    When I worked in automotive (oil changes, tire repair etc.) we had plastic seat covers and paper floor mats. You should definitely have some on hand.

  • @Glockperf
    @Glockperf Рік тому +9

    Hi Alex. Just an FYI with high voltage gloves you should test them before use. You roll the ends up to seal them, put them close to your ear to listen for any air leaks, then visually inspect them. Also, you should have leather protector gloves over the high voltage gloves. There are instances where you don't use the protectors, but the rubber gloves can get punctured without them.

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 Рік тому +2

      Spot on, that's straight out of the training douments!

  • @javier.villatoro
    @javier.villatoro Рік тому +36

    Alex, a quick tip if you don't find the exact battery, take one of the good cells out, measure the capacity of it with a battery capacity tester, and search for a replacement LiFePO4 battery with the same dimensions and capacity.

    • @Z-Ack
      @Z-Ack Рік тому

      I dont think itd be a good idea to replace 2 of the cells in a big array like that because im sure those batteries take different times to charge and at different rates as well.. they would either be over charged or under charged and compromise other cells,.

    • @LookingForEntertainment112
      @LookingForEntertainment112 Рік тому +6

      These aren't LiFePO4 batteries, they're LiNMC batteries. Different nominal voltage ratings. So they'll need a different BMS if you swap them out for LiFePO4.

    • @tei1337
      @tei1337 Рік тому +1

      ​@@LookingForEntertainment112um, they charge to 3.6V which is really what LFP batteries do. NMC would charge to 4.1-4.2V.

    • @harrywalker968
      @harrywalker968 Рік тому

      how about can all ev,s & get back to reality.. not killing children, for your yupi existance.. ev,s are like nuke power, total bs & un necassery.. its all leftists green bs.. they need gone.. the sun, controls earths weather, climate,, not man.. im not religious, or political, or green,, i just dont like bs..

    • @javier.villatoro
      @javier.villatoro Рік тому

      ​@@Z-Ack In a good modern car battery I would give you the reason, but that is a test battery, which is unreliable anyways and the BMS should compensate.

  • @icuranis4597
    @icuranis4597 Рік тому +8

    New front monitor has a calibration built in to it's menu. Use the button control that came with it to run calibration.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому +1

      The touchscreen is entirely separate from the LCD itself (to the point of having a separate USB connection). The calibration you see in the LCDs menu is for aligning the picture on the screen properly when using analog inputs (anyone who's had an LCD monitor pre 2010 will know the little "auto adjust" button to center the image and make it sharp when using VGA)

  • @JACB006
    @JACB006 Рік тому +6

    Keep going Alex …. I hope your enjoy your work, your subscribers certainty enjoy watching your shows and seeing you diagnose and overcome the various issues, a skill so few people use these days where everything is thrown-away.

  • @JSchaefers91
    @JSchaefers91 Рік тому +2

    That battery was so freaking cool. It's incredible how simple it actually is. Once you take a step back and go "ok how exactly does this function", you gain the confidence to start your fixin.

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 Рік тому +8

    As others have mentioned, you definitely want to get the HDD out of that computer and clone it. I don't remember if Win XP will recognize a SATA drive bus or not, as most all of them used an IDE bus for the hard drives, and CD/DVD drives, but you may have to upgrade the motherboard and peripherals accordingly, so it will work with a much faster SSD. Depending on how it's programmed, it may be possible to update the code to run on Win 7 or Win 10 even. Of course, you'd want to do all that with a spare drive image, in case it borks.😱😉

    • @adamsauer6516
      @adamsauer6516 Рік тому +2

      windows xp recognizes sata bus. atleast the last version did xp3.. i use to game on it with early sata drives

  • @willecutlip
    @willecutlip Рік тому +26

    You might want to trace out the harness back to the electric motor while you’re waiting on the battery cells. Figuring out why it’s bucking and breaking the bracket is going to be essential to getting the SpaceVan back on the road. It feels like there’s an issue with the shifting between gas/hybrid/regen modes.

    • @Eddavids2
      @Eddavids2 Рік тому +9

      He thinks the battery is causing that issue. I disagree and agree with you.

    • @CrappyCar
      @CrappyCar Рік тому +1

      From previous videos, the entire wiring harness is a mess. Either from initial development, the schools that inherited the van later, or both.

    • @barryoliver
      @barryoliver Рік тому +3

      I think all three of you can be right. If its trying to automatically switch between modes because the battery voltage is wonky and right at the threshold and drops below under load...

    • @curvs4me
      @curvs4me Рік тому +1

      Definitely a programming issue with limits set too tight. Should also ramp on and off vs opening and closing a contactor. Either looking at voltage drop when engaging the motor or current exceeding set limits due to voltage drop. Probably never had an issue with new batteries. The settings and ramps need to be addressed anyway. I don't think it is using ramps when hitting limits. Even a 3 second delay before it tries again with a fault latch after 3 attempts equivalent to a check engine light would work. Would have to see the schematic and compiled program to know exactly what is and isn't in there. Will probably need a compiler from the CEO guy to fix it.

  • @monkeywadaf8863
    @monkeywadaf8863 Рік тому +2

    Definetly make full backup of the hard drive. using any backup software to make full image of the drive.
    Since it's one of the kind, when it fails it's gone, having backup is good idea.

  • @rookiegplays
    @rookiegplays Рік тому +12

    You better backup that harddrive/SSD on the computer. If it dies you'll lose the system software for the van. I suspect the copy on that drive may be the only copy in existence. I'd do this asap before disaster has a chance to strike.

    • @tech4pros1
      @tech4pros1 Рік тому +2

      i'd definitely back up that hard drive, there may well be irreplacable drivers and config files on there for some oddball USB interface that goes to the BMS etc! it's possible the configuration for the BMS is accessible through that computer. it's running windows XP so the software probably exists somewhere for the BMS configuration.

  • @richardnavarro5028
    @richardnavarro5028 Рік тому +1

    Alex I love your channel. Dude you actually make my day. Why don’t you make the space van work 💯 percent perfect

  • @waynemurphy8363
    @waynemurphy8363 Рік тому +3

    Alex, Awesome video as usual. Fix the cargo doors! You have locked yourself in there twice already. Install an inside door handle into the door!

  • @DrFiero
    @DrFiero Рік тому +15

    As has been stated elsewhere - do a mirror of that hard drive quick! At the age of it, it COULD start to fail. There's lots of free s/w out there to do it.
    And if the guys that wrote it won't give you the source code (not likely!), you could always let someone at it with Ghidra to reverse engineer it.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому

      It's a SSD, not a HDD. But yeah cloning it should be the first step. Always have backups (plural)

    • @plektosgaming
      @plektosgaming Рік тому

      @@Knaeckebrotsaege Windows XP literally doesn't care if you clone the drive as it doesn't lock the OS to the hardware. We used to swap dead machines at work like this. Copy their personal data, power off, drop in the new drive, put their data back, reboot and basically done. Windows 7 and later made it MUCH harder to copy things. So in a way, you lucked out.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому

      @@plektosgaming I never said anything about XP or any of the other stuff in your textwall. pointless comment

    • @plektosgaming
      @plektosgaming Рік тому

      @@Knaeckebrotsaege Not to the person trying to fix this van. If it was Windows 7 on that flash drive, then it's a huge headache to get it to boot up without the windows license failing/causing problems. But he doesn't need to worry about any of that, thankfully.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому

      @@plektosgaming It's not XP either, but Windows Embedded Standard. And if you can't figure out how the licensing system in Vista, 7 and up works and how easy it is to bypass all of that nonsense, what are you even doing trying to give PC advice? smfh 🤦‍♂

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 Рік тому +2

    You should create an image of that hard drive (or SSD, I forget what it had) and store it somewhere to preserve it in case of failure. Then restore that image to an SSD and install that. Store the original HDD/SSD somewhere safe, maybe with that model. When you sell the van, give them the original HDD/SSD.

  • @scottcol23
    @scottcol23 Рік тому +42

    Ive been waiting for this episode. Between this and the Delorean I have really been loving the content. I love that you are not afraid to try crazy projects. My only gripe is that the video isnt an hour... lol

    • @stuartblack9258
      @stuartblack9258 Рік тому +1

      My exact thoughts also!!! between the Deloreon & Space van Alex has been absolutely crushing it awesome content lately!👍

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @johnwardale6010
      @johnwardale6010 Рік тому

      The video length matches the content well. More content would be cool, but TYVM for NOT padding to make an arbitrary target length!

    • @FiatUno2003
      @FiatUno2003 Рік тому

      ​@@Abril-km7vonah

  • @jimschafer9196
    @jimschafer9196 Рік тому +1

    Great content keep the suspense coming, like the tenacity of keep after each odd problem.

  • @bcredeur97
    @bcredeur97 Рік тому +8

    Alex you need to clone the hard drive/solid state drive of that computer to preserve it’s contents. The drive will fail but as long as you have the data you can always bring it back

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @imawalnut123
      @imawalnut123 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Abril-km7volol who cares bro that's weird and off-putting to push ur religion on people in the comments of a car video, read the room, nows not the time or place

    • @Elektrotechniker
      @Elektrotechniker Рік тому

      @@imawalnut123Dude, that is a Bot! Just Report him and his Comments as Spam, don‘t reply to such messages.

  • @FixitFrank
    @FixitFrank Рік тому +1

    Also, I'd highly recommend cloning that hard drive to an SSD and use the SSD in the computer. and make a backup image of that hard drive.

  • @shauncollins2017
    @shauncollins2017 Рік тому +5

    Those screens usually have a touch sensitivity reprogramming setting. I used to install screens similar to that.

  • @jamesscott-vn7qo
    @jamesscott-vn7qo Рік тому +1

    Im not even an electric vehicle type of guy but im super invested in this van cant wait to see you get it running and driving it has definitely been entertaining

  • @MostBever
    @MostBever Рік тому +12

    Use safety glasses when handling the batteris, in case of an explotion 15:17

    • @lorenzo42p
      @lorenzo42p Рік тому

      and never lean over high voltage as he always does. one mistake, fall on it, you're done.

    • @ericklein5097
      @ericklein5097 Рік тому

      if they are LiFePO4 then the odds of anything happening are so significantly tiny.....yes, they could vent some nasty gases you don't want to breathe in but to combust they need an external spark

  • @bare365
    @bare365 Рік тому +4

    Hey Alex,
    Uncle Rich did a video a few weeks ago where he rebuilt a module similar to yours. I don’t know if the modules were the same but it might be worth checking out… another great video and keep them coming.🤩

  • @shept.7736
    @shept.7736 Рік тому +44

    If the computer for the screen is as old as the vehicle it is probably running off of a hdd, which would most likely not hold up to the driving vibrations and road conditions due to it's age. I'd suggest transferring all the programming and everything unchanged to a ssd.

    • @cody0
      @cody0 Рік тому +2

      As well as making it boot more quickly

    • @tschuuuls486
      @tschuuuls486 Рік тому +5

      This thing runs on a really old industrial IDE SSD.

    • @rysterstech
      @rysterstech Рік тому +3

      @@tschuuuls486 Now thats something you dont see anymore

    • @michaeltempsch5282
      @michaeltempsch5282 Рік тому +2

      I've run a headunit/mo3 player/computer (empeg, aka Rio Car) running HDDs (2.5") for many years from 2000 on w/o issues (from somewhere 2012/13 updated to SSD) but the designers had the drive(s) mounted on a plate that was suspended on rubber mounts) and the developers had worked pretty hard on cacheing, read-ahead etc. to not have the heads reading all the time... Didn't hear much about drive failures on the forum either.
      Not in cars with floaty suspensions either, one was lowered (springs) and the second a sporty model which was lower/stiffer han the base model from start.

    • @lukedavis436
      @lukedavis436 Рік тому +1

      ​@@michaeltempsch5282didn't some lexus models have hard drives in the head units too?

  • @chaleboy60
    @chaleboy60 Рік тому

    Keep working at it the end will be so satisfying and you corrected what they didn't do and make changes to the chassi to make it functional if the old owners buy it back

  • @salty_dabs3565
    @salty_dabs3565 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for giving me something to watch the min i open my eyes.. keep up the work Alex! Small request? Lets get hr videos.

    • @LegitStreetCars
      @LegitStreetCars  Рік тому +9

      Next one on the DeLorean will definitely be an hour.

    • @salty_dabs3565
      @salty_dabs3565 Рік тому

      @@LegitStreetCars my man 💪, thank you, always enjoy waking up to your content!

  • @rafaeltorovip
    @rafaeltorovip Рік тому +1

    This is reality. Enjoying every second of this videos. Thanks

  • @CarFul
    @CarFul Рік тому +3

    You Always find the solution, Alex, no matter how difficult the problem is. I’m pretty sure you’ll get this one running and working like it should! Awesome video again 👍😀

  • @digitaldoctors499
    @digitaldoctors499 Рік тому +1

    I recommend using ceramic blades or scissors for cutting lithium battery leads to prevent shorting.

  • @melonensaft1337
    @melonensaft1337 Рік тому +1

    Big respect for you being so confident and still trying to finish this hell of a projekt. Keep it up🫡💯

  • @andyguest6543
    @andyguest6543 Рік тому +5

    Love the space van videos, it's the best series you have at the moment even with the cool other stuff going on. If all the cells are looking a bit swollen what about replacing all the cells for safety and also to get it up and running?

  • @TheTechMonkey702
    @TheTechMonkey702 Рік тому +1

    As others have mentioned. Clone the disc drive and save the image. This would also allow for future upgrades to make things work faster. Any modern, small cheap PC can easily replace the Win XP dinosaur

  • @JB-NZ
    @JB-NZ Рік тому +3

    The touch screen looks like it is Resistive Touch, so you use your fingernail as a point and its mechanical pressure to touch things, not capacitive touch like your phone or tablet. So you need to apply a little bit of pressure with a point (stylus or fingernail), not a flat finger really - they can work but bit fininky without a single 'impact' point. If you touch one part of the screen with the bezel or something else, then it averages your fingers position with where its also being touched, and you get somewhere in the middle. Not ideal at all for this application. But that one does look more faulty than it should be.

  • @willemjordaan4108
    @willemjordaan4108 Рік тому +2

    Well done Alex and Max! Looking good the space van. Greetings from South-Africa!🎉😊

  • @nukedathlonman
    @nukedathlonman Рік тому +5

    No, like you I'm not seeing anything. Like you, the problem is I likely can find similar sized cell... But I have no idea if anything I find will match your cells for capacity or discharge/charge rate (wrong rate could mean fire in a worse case). BTW, I would recommend changing the cells of all the packs to ensure capacity and charge/discharge rates all match - you will have less problems overall. I'm just delighted as you slowly figure out this van man. :-)

    • @ericklein5097
      @ericklein5097 Рік тому +1

      He's gonna need an EBC A40L to test all these cells

  • @lmfarms4611
    @lmfarms4611 Рік тому +1

    Great job. If you go to an art store(Michels, hobby lobby) they sell magic markers in different colors. Just a thought to touch up the stuff marks.

  • @davidt3563
    @davidt3563 Рік тому +3

    Battery dude is cool and I want to see his battery powered 240 lol.
    The space van shall live again!

  • @majornerd
    @majornerd Рік тому +31

    It’s possible the backlight has died on the screen. Use a flashlight at various angles to see if you can see anything (would be very hard to see even with the flashlight). The clicking is because the touchscreen is likely working, but that is a different device, layered over the screen.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому +1

      The touchscreen is likely the extra USB plug in the wiring to the screen, so it's completely independant of the LCD module itself

    • @dimitristamatakis2431
      @dimitristamatakis2431 Рік тому

      Totally agree.

    • @Miketime969
      @Miketime969 Рік тому

      Hes too stupid to handle that correctly

    • @majornerd
      @majornerd Рік тому

      It absolutely is independent.@@Knaeckebrotsaege

  • @BelleDoesStuff
    @BelleDoesStuff Рік тому +1

    Alex, please ensure you get the hard-drive from the van's computer cloned and backed up in multiple places.
    That OS installation will be completely irreplaceable if the data on there is lost and that one-of-a-kind software for the touchscreen would never exist again if that happened.
    Cloning it to an SSD and installing that instead of (what I assume is) an HDD will also make it boot much faster and will significantly increase the durability.

  • @aclausenyt
    @aclausenyt Рік тому +8

    alex, youre the man. your ability to not just get discouraged and quit but keep trying something different is something the younger crowd wanting to learn this stuff needs to see. im a line tech similarly aged to yourself, with similar practices. very cool to see. if id have known you were coming to sioux falls for that badass trailer id have done just about anything to buy ya a cup of coffee and talk about your adventures! keep it up and let me know if youre coming back to town!

  • @Dave96z34v2
    @Dave96z34v2 Рік тому +1

    You need to do a tuch screen calibration. If the tutch input on the screen the cursor don't match you need go into windows find the tutch screen calibration program. Run it, and it will give you bullseyes you press, and when done, the cursors will line up. Any time you replace one you have to do it.

  • @poot111111
    @poot111111 Рік тому +3

    @LegitStreetCars I recently saw the white supercharged Suburban for sale online. The one owned by an NFL player. Just thought you would be interested, I think it is in Indianapolis, IN.

  • @stuartblack9258
    @stuartblack9258 Рік тому +1

    Yaaaaay!!!! More space van content!👍awesome! Keep up the great work Alex👍 much love from the U.K 🇬🇧❤👍

  • @rsvp-realscalevehiclesproj6965

    Alex, a good friend of ours was a battery/electrical engineer for Ford for 30 years and is now an engineer at VinFast in Vietnam. I shared your video with him to see if he might be able to help. I'll let you know what he says.

  • @corytomlin4840
    @corytomlin4840 Рік тому

    Alex is very smart . I’m confident he can fix just about anything.

  • @immrnoidall
    @immrnoidall Рік тому +6

    If you only replace one or two cells, the pack will have a hard time trying to balance due to different resistance.

  • @Keasbeysknight
    @Keasbeysknight Рік тому +1

    Big fan of this series and sharing how to fix these things.

  • @davidpage8728
    @davidpage8728 Рік тому +6

    Great content. Love the channel. You certainly keep things interesting!

  • @eldermillennial813
    @eldermillennial813 Рік тому +2

    Josh was great! Have him on again.

  • @quantumtime6883
    @quantumtime6883 Рік тому +4

    Hopefully you will find the battery cells and get the Space Van on the road again - very interested in the actual MPG. My estimate with the current Hybrid setup is that the van will see 60 MPG.

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @FiatUno2003
      @FiatUno2003 Рік тому

      ​@@Abril-km7vonah

  • @Ballinhard8019
    @Ballinhard8019 Рік тому

    Sorry if I missed you possibly explaining, but fyi theres a leather glove thats goes over that insulated glove to protect the rubber. You could easily tear it working on sharp metal parts and possibly electrocute yourself. Theres awful to work in but you get used to it with time. I reconnect power from the utility pole to the customer for the utility providers after storms as an emergency contractor

  • @catfisher420
    @catfisher420 Рік тому +3

    If the PC in the Van has HDMI you should upgrade the screen to a modern HDMI touchscreen and that mouse lag should go away. If it doesn't have HDMI you should extract all the data from that computer and install a more modern one.

  • @NoReverse77
    @NoReverse77 Рік тому +1

    Sometimes taking the battery out won’t be enough to reset the bios. There are some jumper pins and you need to unplug everything that’s plugged into the board while you do it. There’s also sometimes a yellow reset bios button on boards that does the same thing as the jumper.

  • @liamstrain
    @liamstrain Рік тому +1

    There is often a touch screen calibration setting buried in there somewhere that might help.

  • @angelahlavka8720
    @angelahlavka8720 Рік тому +7

    Guessing Alex is not an IT guy - maybe someone can help him out with cloning and also move to an SSD - so he has original/copy and sad copy to use in the van

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому

      It already *is* an SSD, albeit an early one. But yes, always have backups (plural)

  • @mbgaines
    @mbgaines Рік тому +2

    Awsome that you got the touch screen working. The space van is making progress, slowly but progress nontheless. Good stuff Alex!

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian Рік тому

      Spoilers bro! I haven't watched yet! :)

  • @lateefcarrere1649
    @lateefcarrere1649 Рік тому +4

    It's "Legit Street Cars" meets "Automotive Archeology", and it's pretty good for just half an hour's content. But I get it - dealing with sensitive battery packs and electronic components can be draining (see what I did there😁). It's going to take some time, but I think you've got this, Alex!

    • @Abril-km7vo
      @Abril-km7vo Рік тому

      In the name of Allah, I invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah. This is how I entered Islam. Read about our Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, whom Allah sent as a mercy to the worlds, to keep us away from Hell and admit us to Paradise by following him, Allah willing, for he is one of Allah prophets at the end of time. .. .. And the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers ............. .......

    • @charliewatson3202
      @charliewatson3202 Рік тому

      The United States Smithsonian Institute considers anything within the past 50 years to be recent, so this is hardly archeology. This vehicle isn't even considered an antique in any state that I know of. Most states consider a car to be antique after it is 20 to 25 years old. If you want to see vehicle archeology you would need to see Jay Leno's collection. He does have a 100 year old electric car.

  • @Hrethgir
    @Hrethgir Рік тому

    Love the OS on the screen. GPS icon has a road sign for Route 69, nice!

  • @coleBlap
    @coleBlap Рік тому +14

    Hey Alex, great video! On a side note in the electrical world people don’t really die from getting shocked with 120-160v, I’ve been shocked with 120 and it’s not necessarily fun lol but it’s not gonna put you out, hell an HVAC guy I know took a 480v shock a few years ago and he’s got a little bit of scaring but he’s all good and continues to work in his field to this day. Stay safe brother!

    • @RoycoNL
      @RoycoNL Рік тому +5

      I believe under 100V (DC!) is considered safe-ish to the touch but never underestimate high energy devices like batteries, they can ruin your day... it also depends from people to people and other factors, just because you've been shocked with 120V and just got a tingle means it's safe for everyone else.

    • @bigsexymuthashutyomouth2546
      @bigsexymuthashutyomouth2546 Рік тому

      More people are killed with 120/240 than high voltage. The lower voltage will hold you on it and not let go where high voltagewillblow a holein yourbody to get to ground. I agree that fewer "workers" are killed but look up the data on that before you tell someone to not worry about low voltage.

    • @coleBlap
      @coleBlap Рік тому +2

      @@RoycoNL Very true I see your point and it definitely doesn’t mean it’s safer for everyone’s else but I did want to point out that for a majority of people it’s not something that’s life changing or lethal, and I wanted to point it out because I see when people first start working on that level of electrical it can be intimidating and if you’re thinking you’re about to be put down or hospitalized by an electrical shock it definitely can make an operator in any field nervous but once you take a step back realize the reality of what you’re dealing with it’s no where as nerve racking and can take weight off your shoulders when working, ultimately though something as low as 120 could still be dangerous and shouldn’t be played around with.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian Рік тому +5

      @@coleBlap You are unfortunately conflating things. You can touch hundreds of volts. You'll get a zap. What car people are worried about, is being part of the circuit. You cannot even take 12 volts, if it goes across your heart and has some good amps.
      A single handed touch will wake your azz up. A two handed touch will put you to sleep forever.

    • @ChrisPBacon-ok7ir
      @ChrisPBacon-ok7ir Рік тому

      It will if you're in a bathtub...

  • @rogalandrally3698
    @rogalandrally3698 Рік тому +2

    The screen might only be "brigthnes 0%". On the new screen you brought the display settings forward, use it to guide the menues "blind" on the original screen. Contrast and backlight might both be the problem, although a fault ofcourse also could be your problem.

  • @duckie8126
    @duckie8126 Рік тому +18

    My saturday morning ritual video.

  • @TheYonderGod
    @TheYonderGod Рік тому +1

    If that hard drive is working intermittently, find someone to help you clone it ASAP! Although, the stress from cloning it could also kill it even more, so that is risky too.

  • @DaPenceman
    @DaPenceman Рік тому +3

    You need to take the DeLorean back in time and talk to the Van's engineers

  • @eastmanresearch3143
    @eastmanresearch3143 Рік тому +1

    get a tesla model 3 battery for and retrofit with a different drivetrain. Chevy bolt might work too. If this is 15 yrs old, everything has changed. Tesla did not come out w/ the model s until 2012 and those are still on the road. The van looks super cool.

  • @billiam247
    @billiam247 Рік тому +7

    That monitor is a computer monitor that they disassembled to mount into the dash. You could probably get a similar sized replacement and replace the lcd panel.
    3 seconds after I send this, new screen shows up!

  • @ChrisAllen-u8h
    @ChrisAllen-u8h Рік тому

    Alex. I was watching a video about electric motors and it was showing the need for them to be timed as such it went onto explain that the phasing needed to be timed, the symptoms of a non timed electric motor matched the jolting and vibrations of your motor that caused the metal mounting to break. Just a thoughy if the replacing of the dead cells doesnt work.

  • @sinoverlord409
    @sinoverlord409 Рік тому +21

    The CEO wants to buy it back after you successfully get it to work because they never could. He figures he will try to get the scam going again this time with a working prototype 😂

  • @jeremyshelton1079
    @jeremyshelton1079 Рік тому

    After seeing all the DMC updates on fbook this week I was anxiously anticipating a new DMC video today. You swerved us! SpaceVan is cool too, I was just psyched for the new DMC content.

  • @vicdyda5462
    @vicdyda5462 Рік тому +41

    Alex, sell it back to CEO

    • @Genno1012
      @Genno1012 Рік тому +4

      Ya it’s not really that cool of a vehicle haha I love his videos still even the though this van sucks haha

    • @macbook802
      @macbook802 Рік тому +2

      The ceo is poor

    • @Atrocities85
      @Atrocities85 Рік тому

      Naw.

    • @emeraldbonsai
      @emeraldbonsai Рік тому

      Lol why

    • @macbook802
      @macbook802 Рік тому +1

      Trade the van for all of his steak in the company

  • @kvdude7279
    @kvdude7279 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for entertaining us on your journey Alex!

  • @brucemitchell5637
    @brucemitchell5637 Рік тому +63

    Sell it to the CEO and use the money to to fix your DeLorean. That van will NEVER be anything but a money pit!

    • @teddywoods9485
      @teddywoods9485 Рік тому +1

      This. Or sell to Rich.

    • @Uptoptezgaming
      @Uptoptezgaming Рік тому +3

      Agreed

    • @Miketime969
      @Miketime969 Рік тому +7

      Sell to someone that has half a clue with electronics

    • @riverpirate1022
      @riverpirate1022 Рік тому +3

      Couldn't agree more, sell it already, it sucks!

    • @thefloridaredneck
      @thefloridaredneck Рік тому

      Nah man. I love this kind of stuff. As someone interested in the Ev1 the Ford ranger Ev, the S10 ev ibam really loving this series.

  • @pauldaulby1062
    @pauldaulby1062 Рік тому

    When you are in the back. Just a thought, if you click the door catches. So they are if they are in the lock position. The doors cannot lock you in. You just use a screwdriver to flick the door locks. To the lock position. Then if the door closes, it cannot lock you in. Then all you have to do is pull the door handle and it click the lock catches. To the unlock position and you can close the rear door. Hope this saves you getting locked in the back again.

  • @KerchumA222
    @KerchumA222 Рік тому +3

    Hey Alex, when looking for replacement cells for that battery you should make sure to get the same chemistry and capacity since the charging and discharging curves can be different between capacities (the Craigslist ad looked like a LiFePo4 and you are probably holding NMC). Maybe you should measure the dimensions of the pouch cells and see if you can order an entire replacement set and do the entire pack.
    It looks like those cells are probably 20ah capacity. 12s2p configuration per module: 43.2v Nomimal (charged will be closer to 48-49v) and 40AH of capacity. That means each module is around 1.7kwh. With all 8 modules you have like 14kwh, which is a nice size pack for a plug in hybrid.
    That also means when fully charged your entire pack voltage should be between 345v and ~384v

    • @christ510
      @christ510 Рік тому +1

      Great idea.

    • @tei1337
      @tei1337 Рік тому +2

      Based on the working cells charging to 3.6V, it makes sense that it actually is LFP, not NMC. Would also make much more sense for a hybrid with a small battery pack due to much better cycle life, especially for a commercial vehicle.

  • @totallybonkers
    @totallybonkers Рік тому +36

    Sell it back to the CEO guy immediately! 😂

  • @jtreworks
    @jtreworks Рік тому +1

    I know this video is a few days old but I really hope you got that SSD in the computer cloned and have a couple copies (1 on your PC and another on a new SSD). That SSD was without power for possibly such a long time it would be possible it might have suffered from bit rot. So hopefully you got the OS copied before any more possible data corruption could occur.

  • @cliffp73
    @cliffp73 Рік тому +3

    Would anyone like to guess why the ceo that got money to make this van would rather hide the pass…

  • @robsdeviceunknown
    @robsdeviceunknown Рік тому +2

    The small circuit board is the controller for the monitor (power, menu, select etc). Also once a BIOS battery dies it will reset the BIOS. It holds custome settings. You need to go in there and check if the display was set and other settings in their. It could be set to external video device or CPU vga.. stuff like that. I built several onboard computers for vehicles beack before Android etc came out. If you were in GA I would come show you how that's all setup.

  • @korn111685
    @korn111685 Рік тому +3

    I love LGC but I can’t stand this van. It was funny Alex getting locked in the rear though.

  • @KRTube75
    @KRTube75 Рік тому +1

    I'd recommend that you take an image of that disk and replace it with an SSD and back it up to cloud storage just in case it's needed in the future

  • @Precisionreelworks
    @Precisionreelworks Рік тому

    So much of that van reminds me of all the old "prop tronic" appliances at furniture stotes in the 90s

  • @geneticepistomology
    @geneticepistomology Рік тому

    Nice w124! I have the same, one sedan diesel in gold and gas wagon. I had a black diesel too all at the same time. All ‘95s

  • @davebaumga
    @davebaumga Рік тому

    Bet the old LCD backlight controller got fried.... cuz spacevan, which is why the touch screen worked you just couldn't see anything. If you held a flashlight behind it you may have been able to see something on the old screen. Been a great ride. Thank you for this.

  • @Jeremy123-y3q
    @Jeremy123-y3q Рік тому

    I'm impressed you're motivated to work on this thing still

  • @mickwolf1077
    @mickwolf1077 Рік тому +1

    Its great you're making progress on it. One issue at a time.

  • @milspecasfudge5895
    @milspecasfudge5895 Рік тому +1

    Hey @LegitStreetCars. It’s a LiFePO4 battery, model number F014, by EIG Battery.

  • @bryanmiller2023
    @bryanmiller2023 Рік тому

    Just watched the Better Help ad... I'm glad I have never worked on a vehicle that is so bad that I require a therapist!

  • @justinoliver1984
    @justinoliver1984 Рік тому

    Yes!!!
    My Grown-up Saturday morning "cartoons!"
    Thanks Alex!!!

  • @cyberbetica
    @cyberbetica Рік тому

    For the screen to properly work, press the menu button. There should be a calibration mode where you have to press each corner in a specific order.