@@williamsmith9315 no i'm speaking strictly in the context of Jordans...from the 3 forward they all have distinct features that make them stand out 1s are basically just Dunks
Welty seems like the friend that everyone has in their group. Big "zig" when everyone "zags," which to outsiders might make him seem obnoxious, but the homies know he is genuine and wouldn't trade him for anything.
@@mitchell7309I think it’s funny how people think Welty’s taste in sneakers is obnoxious but JLP has a whole term devoted to his super specific and particular type of shoe that he likes and he basically doesn’t entertain anything else
These gentlemen speak so fluidly. I love the show. I can't stand so many other sneaker youtubers. All they wan to do is push resale. No knowledge exchange. Just regurgitation of other people's work
Welty is completely right about the VaporMax. Nowhere close to a classic yet. I honestly don’t think Nike hasn’t had that many classic sportswear models in the last decade or so. The Roshe run? The FlyKnit Racer/Trainer?
@@brendandunnecomplexI don’t know if the timing on Nike retroing the Roshe this year was right but I can almost guarantee they will retro it again in a decade or so and it will be very well received
I've always hated the Roshe. As someone who owns a ton of shoes. (400 or so) I never cared for the roshe. I did kinda follow trend back then and rocked Janoski max on chill days with joggers a decade ago.
Air maxes - in particular air max 1, air max 90, air max 95 Air Force 1s Converse Chuck 70s Vans New Balance 990 Series Can't go wrong with any of those. They'll never go out of fashion like ultra boosts, NMDs and Yeezys
The hardest thing with the Kobe stuff is that Vanessa Bryant's style and aesthetics do not necessarily align with sneaker/basketball culture. Recent releases and rumored releases are just not it for me, I much rather see classic colorways that align with his legacy.
I see where you’re coming from and you make some valid points. But I think part of what makes these new releases interesting and heartfelt is they ARE coming from Kobe’s loved one and not necessarily aligned with “sneaker” culture. I’d much rather have that than something more corporate/hype beast-ish
Excited for this one ! So cozy with it on feet ! I beat my BCIII’s from ‘12 like crazy but still able to wear them! The flyknit era was a time ! Flyknit racers are still one of the comfiest sneakers i own. Loved these conversations! Amazing job guys !
I watched your Jordan IV White Cements Restoration video to restore my 2016 pair and would like to keep them nice and white and wearable for a long time and the CAPSOLE would definitely help keep them from turning yellow.
I agree with Welty, Vapor Max is NOT a classic. The platform was influential but people won't be buying restock after restock like they do for AM1, AM90, AM95 and AM97.
That Chinese New Year Af1 looks nuts probably one of the nicest Af1 I've seen in a while. It kinda gives Nike & CLOT vibes cause they remind me of the CLOT AF1 they did a few years ago with the full silk upper and outsole which was a pretty cool feature. Also nike had the Levi Nike by u Af1 that looked very similar as well and those are one of my grail Af1 are the Levi ones. I hope they do another Nike by u with Levi.
Definitely feel the og vapormax is a classic. I remember people stopping on the street to ask about them, was one of the pairs that got me into sneakers
Regarding the classics, Converse Weapons ? Great commercials in the late 80s. The Celtic colorway is back on February 8th. Hope to see Lakers colorway soon.
I've followed the show and it's cast since the very beginning, Love the show!!!! always knowledgeable & the hands on experience you all have endured from your past retail work lol *I worked at Foot Locker for like 6 months somewhere before 2010* 🤣 Random Question for the folks in the comments section: is there any other person, show, youtube channel that can compare to this show &/or cast? Thanks in advance!
I think the Air Max 270 is certified at this point. Somehow that sneaker has become as widespread in the non-sneakerhead collective consciousness as say, the Blazer Mid, in recent years. Go to any grocery store or mall and by the time you leave, you’ll have seen at least two people wearing the Air Max 270. Nike’s done a great job of making that silhouette appealing and accessible.
Love the classic conversation. Honestly with the criteria set the 270 is a classic to me. To joes point of seeing them everyday I do too. Never owned a pair, I’d get a pair and do think they are classic. They will stand the test of time
Nike should bring back the Big Bubble Air Max 95s. I think it would be a lot more in demand than the Air Max 1 “big bubble”(which imo kinda flopped in a way)
Personally I love the collaboration between Adidas and Sean Wotherspoon The color combinations, the different textures,.. I bought the Adidas/Disney Superturf Adventure and (not for the Disney part of it) the style of the sneaker is a good balance between chunky and slim, very fun colorcombo, and the extra details are just cool & fun ✌🏻🪻
The bulk of my collection consists of Air Vapormax models, i love them and still wear all of them in my rotation and will always seek new vapormax. I think the 270 or vapormax will be looked at as a classic in the future. The vapormax was a polarizing design at the time, and i thought the 270 was like a future take on an airmax 90 design. The vapormax was like the premium model, while the 270 was the affordable option. The 720 looked like a take on the air max of previous generation of 2013. Of that era, i think Nike React Technology is the correct answer. The nike react will classic shoe.
To all the haters over the last few weeks posting about Welty “ruining the show” this is is a prime example of why he’s here, the vapourmax is not a classic nowhere near, Welty is spot on about what air max’s are true classics
Vegas tables need a pair of Jordan 1 Spades. Spades across the board. Classic sneakers need to be loud when they first came out, continued to be popular, cultural impact, and retro model released. The list needs to have Reebok Club C's, Nike Pegasus line, Jordans 1-14, Adidas Superstars, Converse All-Stars, etc. Modern classics would likely be Yeezys, Nike Huaraches, SB Dunks, LeBron's line & AF1s, Adidas Boost.
To be a “Classic” the shoe must stand the test of time. Meaning at least 15 years after launch. I’m w Welty on this one. By the way what Crypto should I get w my spare $20?lol😂
think vapormax, ultra boost, air max 270, nmd are all classic sneakers. Think they are to "new" so its hard someone like welty to see those models as such.
Color grading better but still needs tweaking, Welty and Brandon's Eczemas showing too hard. Please lower reds on skin tone highlights. Another great episode thanks.
Of course there's talk of a Kobe SB because I bought the OG one a couple months ago. If anyone wants a shoe to get retro'd, just gimme a shout and I'll buy the original one which pretty much guarantees it'll come back in the next 12 months lol.....super dope shoe, btw....the textured suede on the upper is fire.
What's an overrated sneaker that people call a classic?
Jordan 1s...literally the plainest Jordan there is
Tiffany AF1's
@@RyanTheproblemchild who calls that shoe a classic?
@@cmn225 A sneaker needs details to be a classic?
@@williamsmith9315 no i'm speaking strictly in the context of Jordans...from the 3 forward they all have distinct features that make them stand out 1s are basically just Dunks
Welty seems like the friend that everyone has in their group. Big "zig" when everyone "zags," which to outsiders might make him seem obnoxious, but the homies know he is genuine and wouldn't trade him for anything.
No, he’s just obnoxious. Especially his taste and sneakers. Gross
i'm that friend too not afraid to be myself unapologetically
I usually agree with Welty, but Brendan and Joe gang up on him to make it appear as his takes are crazy but he’s usually right
@@mitchell7309I think it’s funny how people think Welty’s taste in sneakers is obnoxious but JLP has a whole term devoted to his super specific and particular type of shoe that he likes and he basically doesn’t entertain anything else
Welty a national treasure yooo
Welty be clicking “single hot moms in your area” boxes 😂
Real ones remember Brendan’s B-B-BOK BOYZ era
I love so much when you guys talk about your footlocker experiences!! Was a manger for 3 years so many memories hahaha
The Flyknit Vapormax OG is a CLASSIC! I agree with Brendan on that one…
Joe in Slides is Crazy lol 😂
Welty is right about what the classic' air max's are..i agree 100%..im an og' like him
Welty’s RAD Worther Butterscotch Original 1’s are 🔥 😅 that was fun
Thank you Matt for not grabbing the mic every 10 seconds... BRAVO!!!! :)
my take on this podcast and on FSR has and will always be that Welty has the most consistently "correct" takes/opinions
Hate to see it imo.
These gentlemen speak so fluidly. I love the show. I can't stand so many other sneaker youtubers. All they wan to do is push resale. No knowledge exchange. Just regurgitation of other people's work
Nightwing is very good
Yup very true. Among the three of them, they prob have the most extensive knowledge of sneakers and street wear combined
Welty is completely right about the VaporMax. Nowhere close to a classic yet. I honestly don’t think Nike hasn’t had that many classic sportswear models in the last decade or so. The Roshe run? The FlyKnit Racer/Trainer?
Roshe is one I shoulda mentioned. Flyknits too, easy classic from the 2010s.
@@brendandunnecomplexI don’t know if the timing on Nike retroing the Roshe this year was right but I can almost guarantee they will retro it again in a decade or so and it will be very well received
I've always hated the Roshe. As someone who owns a ton of shoes. (400 or so) I never cared for the roshe. I did kinda follow trend back then and rocked Janoski max on chill days with joggers a decade ago.
Welty has great insight on Nike/Jordan failures. Can we get his commentary on NB failures moving forward? 😄
Wow props to Welty referencing that super old Wale line, that's from his underground DMV mixtape days
Air maxes - in particular air max 1, air max 90, air max 95
Air Force 1s
Converse Chuck 70s
Vans
New Balance 990 Series
Can't go wrong with any of those. They'll never go out of fashion like ultra boosts, NMDs and Yeezys
This show makes my Friday even better. Appreciate it guys 🔥🔥🫡
The hardest thing with the Kobe stuff is that Vanessa Bryant's style and aesthetics do not necessarily align with sneaker/basketball culture. Recent releases and rumored releases are just not it for me, I much rather see classic colorways that align with his legacy.
I see where you’re coming from and you make some valid points. But I think part of what makes these new releases interesting and heartfelt is they ARE coming from Kobe’s loved one and not necessarily aligned with “sneaker” culture. I’d much rather have that than something more corporate/hype beast-ish
Welty going full nerd on that airmax vapormax topic 👍🏿🔥🔥
Omfg the footlocker/finishline segment KILLED ME! PTSD for sure hahaha
Hit like if you think Welty should shave his head…
Welty plugging the Open and wearing RAD’s on the show. Wild crossover of cultures, seems bizarre but cool he’s bridging the gap
The OG colors of Vapormax that dropped on SNKRS, classic.
Excited for this one ! So cozy with it on feet !
I beat my BCIII’s from ‘12 like crazy but still able to wear them!
The flyknit era was a time ! Flyknit racers are still one of the comfiest sneakers i own.
Loved these conversations! Amazing job guys !
I watched your Jordan IV White Cements Restoration video to restore my 2016 pair and would like to keep them nice and white and wearable for a long time and the CAPSOLE would definitely help keep them from turning yellow.
I agree with Welty, Vapor Max is NOT a classic. The platform was influential but people won't be buying restock after restock like they do for AM1, AM90, AM95 and AM97.
And AM PLUS/TN outside of the US they’re treated like Jordan’s in the US
Fave part of this epi is at 34:19, when they start going in. The comradery between them is great!
Met Brendan at the Celtics v Laker Game yesterday solid dude 🤝🏾 one em ones Fr
Hard for me to believe
@@BookerT69why is that hard to believe 😂😂
@@BookerT69 what that I met Brendan? Or that he was a solid dude? I’m at TD Garden everyday
That Chinese New Year Af1 looks nuts probably one of the nicest Af1 I've seen in a while. It kinda gives Nike & CLOT vibes cause they remind me of the CLOT AF1 they did a few years ago with the full silk upper and outsole which was a pretty cool feature. Also nike had the Levi Nike by u Af1 that looked very similar as well and those are one of my grail Af1 are the Levi ones. I hope they do another Nike by u with Levi.
VaporMax is a classic for me. Favourite pair would be NikeLab Air VaporMax 'College Navy'.
I loved my flyknit trainers/racers back in my younger days, but they just don't sit right on my feet these days so had to let a few pairs go on klekt.
Definitely feel the og vapormax is a classic. I remember people stopping on the street to ask about them, was one of the pairs that got me into sneakers
Welty definitely clicked on a P Hub link
Lesss gooo!!! Been looking out for your show for the whole week!!! Perfect Trio IMO
Welty redeemed himself with the am 09 bit. Tn & 09 classics
Vapormax being in the off white 10 collection kinda makes it more of a classic in todays age then the air max 2009
@complex @DiamondBrosTV will take on Welty as fittest in the sneaker media game …. Let’s goooooo
Regarding the classics, Converse Weapons ? Great commercials in the late 80s. The Celtic colorway is back on February 8th. Hope to see Lakers colorway soon.
Welty mentioned Russ in passing, I’d love to see an episode with Russ Bengston!!
I've followed the show and it's cast since the very beginning, Love the show!!!! always knowledgeable & the hands on experience you all have endured from your past retail work lol *I worked at Foot Locker for like 6 months somewhere before 2010* 🤣
Random Question for the folks in the comments section: is there any other person, show, youtube channel that can compare to this show &/or cast? Thanks in advance!
love the flyknit racer had them in 6 different colors
Rayzor Ranch Crossfit! Argyle represent! Denton County represent! Welty lives in Denton County?!?
Welty got hacked for being a twitter warrior
welty has to be the biggest hardo on the internet
I think the Air Max 270 is certified at this point. Somehow that sneaker has become as widespread in the non-sneakerhead collective consciousness as say, the Blazer Mid, in recent years. Go to any grocery store or mall and by the time you leave, you’ll have seen at least two people wearing the Air Max 270. Nike’s done a great job of making that silhouette appealing and accessible.
Love the classic conversation. Honestly with the criteria set the 270 is a classic to me. To joes point of seeing them everyday I do too. Never owned a pair, I’d get a pair and do think they are classic. They will stand the test of time
Every two weeks I gave this another chance, every two weeks I regret it. Should be renamed The Complex Bias Show.
Nike should bring back the Big Bubble Air Max 95s. I think it would be a lot more in demand than the Air Max 1 “big bubble”(which imo kinda flopped in a way)
Adidas should bring back the “feet you wear” models, especially the “equipment” line that were widely popular in late 90s in Europe.
Personally I love the collaboration between Adidas and Sean Wotherspoon
The color combinations, the different textures,..
I bought the Adidas/Disney Superturf Adventure and (not for the Disney part of it) the style of the sneaker is a good balance between chunky and slim, very fun colorcombo, and the extra details are just cool & fun
✌🏻🪻
Would rather see more Air Max 1’s, especially with collabs over Dunks. Sick of dunks.
😂 I'm going through my Reebok phase right now
This show needs to be 20-30min longer. Feel like yall don’t get all your thoughts out
Big JLP eyeliner ! 😂💅🏾
Dunne with the Wale deep cut lyric 🔥
It was actually Welty with the reference. My mistake.
The first vapormax ✊🏽✊🏽
Can we please incorporate ‘worst take’ into the show for all the FSRMY out there?
love the yeezy talk
Virgil put the Vapormax in “The Ten” … say less 💯
2012 air max 2013 was a crazy classic
The 270 is the Nike Shox NZ of this generation
My boys!!
You guys should interview a Finish Line corporate worker one of these days.
Can we talk about how fire those New Balance BB V2’s are?
Complex doesn’t understand but when u post u brighten up people day I just want to say thanks for that hgd
If the OG vapormax 1s that grey and multicolor one were to come back out…. immediately bought. vapormax 1s and 2s are definitely a classic
The bulk of my collection consists of Air Vapormax models, i love them and still wear all of them in my rotation and will always seek new vapormax. I think the 270 or vapormax will be looked at as a classic in the future. The vapormax was a polarizing design at the time, and i thought the 270 was like a future take on an airmax 90 design. The vapormax was like the premium model, while the 270 was the affordable option. The 720 looked like a take on the air max of previous generation of 2013. Of that era, i think Nike React Technology is the correct answer. The nike react will classic shoe.
To all the haters over the last few weeks posting about Welty “ruining the show” this is is a prime example of why he’s here, the vapourmax is not a classic nowhere near, Welty is spot on about what air max’s are true classics
The beginning of this episode gave me former sneaker employee ptsd 😂
Vegas tables need a pair of Jordan 1 Spades. Spades across the board. Classic sneakers need to be loud when they first came out, continued to be popular, cultural impact, and retro model released. The list needs to have Reebok Club C's, Nike Pegasus line, Jordans 1-14, Adidas Superstars, Converse All-Stars, etc. Modern classics would likely be Yeezys, Nike Huaraches, SB Dunks, LeBron's line & AF1s, Adidas Boost.
great show 🤘🍀🤘
What colorway are those rad ones Welty is wearing? Closest I'm finding are the triple whites.
43:00 couple years ago Dunn said the vapormax was more comfortable than the boost.
I like the fakes. I like the stealth toe box. Reminds me of the 2013 Shadows which somehow is my most worn shoe & has the least wear & tear.
I miss Full Size Run
To be a “Classic” the shoe must stand the test of time. Meaning at least 15 years after launch. I’m w Welty on this one. By the way what Crypto should I get w my spare $20?lol😂
What is the correct way of lacing your shoes? When I get new shoes, I'm always worried people will judge me for my lacing.
Whichever way you think looks best
Its only 1or2 97s that we go for a classic is no matter the colorway its sold out and rocked
Foxwoods and Mohegan are my old local casinos. I remember when they were new. Better I remember when Mohegan didnt exist
Brendan laugh at 1:48/1:49 reminds of cypress hill insane in the membrain... just leave it here byeeee 😂
TAKE CARE is a classic!
think vapormax, ultra boost, air max 270, nmd are all classic sneakers. Think they are to "new" so its hard someone like welty to see those models as such.
Am I wrong to think the vapor max
Birth the air max 2009 and so on ? Like the vapor max walked so the air max 2009 can run ? 🤷♂️
Complex let’s get Deon Point from Concepts on what we doing here concepts got a lot in the stove they cooking trust 😮
Nothing on Project Blitz?? 🤔
Either filmed before or they’re waiting to get a better understanding legally
love the retail talk, bring back so many memories
i really wish they would go back to the air max 2016 silhouette. for that kind of all around shoe, i think they are way better than the 270's.
clas·sic

adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
The 3 stooges back again with another W 😂🤞🐐🐐🐐
Color grading better but still needs tweaking, Welty and Brandon's Eczemas showing too hard. Please lower reds on skin tone highlights. Another great episode thanks.
Of course there's talk of a Kobe SB because I bought the OG one a couple months ago. If anyone wants a shoe to get retro'd, just gimme a shout and I'll buy the original one which pretty much guarantees it'll come back in the next 12 months lol.....super dope shoe, btw....the textured suede on the upper is fire.
Diamond Turf!
I am weak 😅 the werther originals
How is the Air Jordan 1 royal a flop? It’s sold out. Flop cuz it went on sale?
Good show! Vapormax is a good shoe but definitely not a classic!
This is the fit from Welty’s hilariously half smile uncomfortable cringe selfie post
Look at your profile pic before commenting such drivel.
Usually love Welty, but this was rough. The same anti 270 logic can easily be applied to the Yeezy 350 and the wave runner.
why yall switch the capret from the original green one smh! lol great ep tho
Notification squad, we here 😂
Wearing Dunks is still fine. Wear what you like.