I’m 70 yrs old and just ordered the G9II - actually for shooting video for my real estate business. I am a farm and ranch broker. Listening to you is like listening to my daughter teach me all about the camera. I can’t thank you enough for your time and talent. I will have subscribed and I learned a great deal. Jim in Oregon
@@DarkTrapStudio Heym, Dark Trap! I have used Lumix cameras since the GH3 for video. Still use my GH5 all the time. I love the G9II for the open gate and the great codecs and frame rates that I can record to SSD. But, since we aren’t using these cameras to make movies for the big screen, I bet you will love the GX80! The biggest issue is just getting out and creating. The editing is 1/2 the battle. Let me know how you like your new camera!
@@jimcoon I love colorimetry, Ive learn with BlackMagic Design free courses and my dad was a graphic designer, also Ive learn all the basics with Studio Binger (Best UA-cam Cinema Channel, outstanding leesons there) and I have very good results shooting manual wich I prefer for photos, Ive already learn that great edit come from great photo so I really have no problem with it. Im craving a Mitakon Speedmaster lens right now as the next step for hybrid video/photo shooting. (my GX80 come with 12-32 and 45-100 F3.5 decent kit lens) I will let you know thanks a lot I really appreciate your wholesomeness.
Great review. A few things though that needed attention. The OM1 uses a new stacked 20MP sensor. It has a 80MP tripod mode. It's IP53 rated. It will shoot at 120fps with auto focus locked. It's EVF is 5.76k vs 3.68k. It has live time, starry sky AF and built in live ND filters. You should be able to set the focus area as you want, like you did with the G9 MK2 as my em1 MK3 does. And in all your tests the G9 was using dual IS, where none of your lenses would do that with the OM1. This will also apply to the focus speeds, as certain lenses focus faster than others. Try the 12-100mm IS F4, it's brilliant. The prices here in Australia are exactly the same at $3299 body only. But OM systems have sales all the time, making it cheaper. Saying all that I now think that the G9 MK2 is the better camera, which means that the OM1 will be discounted even more soon, hopefully.
As a Olympus/OM shooter I think this is great and well done Panasonic with this new camera, feels like family to me as both systems can use the same lenses and I love that, Micro Four Thirds is the winner here and long live this format
Thanks for the comparision. The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
Hi Emily, Great comparison! As a OM-1 user I can confirm that there is a possibility to add a wide horizontal or vertical AF target boxes. Go to the AF menu, 5 AF settings and operations Settings. Then AF target mode settings. Here you can create your custom target area. There are 4 custom slots available.
It does! I'm sorry for that mistake- olympus menus thwarted me again haha because it wasn't in the main place and not an option when cycling through I assumed it didn't have it. I am so happy it does!!! It'll be super handy for safari this coming week 😁
This is a very good review of the G9II and comparison with the OM-1 - the best I've seen, so thank you! Still, there are some things you might address in a future expanded video. You left out the features exclusive to the OM-1 like Live ND and Starry Sky AF, and the additional Live Compensation modes. Also, just to be specific, the OM-1 EVF has 5.76 million dots whereas the G9II has 3.68, so the OM-1 has 56% more, and the OM-1 is rated at IP53 weatherproofing (and has same rated lenses) whereas Lumix does not claim any recognized testing rating for the G9II or it's lenses. Perhaps in another video you can discuss the relative merits of the OM-1 stacked sensor vs. the slightly larger non-stacked G9II sensor. Having said all that, as an Olympus/OM System person and OM-1 owner, I'm thrilled about the advancements in the G9II, not just relative to the G9/GH6 but also for the MFT system overall. Now, there are two amazing MFT flagship bodies for a fraction of the price of the high-end FF bodies, most of which still don't have all the features of the G9II or OM-1. Taken all together, the case for MFT vs. larger formats continues to get stronger. Again, thank you for an excellent review.
Your BIF breakdowns were so excellent. This really helped me understand how great the AF is on the G9ii and hopefully with OM-1 some firmware updates to help it catch up!
The algorithm knew I *REALLY* wanted to see this so it showed up as the first video recommended to me. Since your last video I've been anticipating this release. Thanks for making this.
Excellent comparisons and demos Emily, you nailed it! Did you notice if the stacked sensor on the Om1 made much difference for skewing in video or electronic bursts over the G9II?
The OM-1 sensor readout speed is approximately 7.4 milliseconds and the G9ii is likely 17.8 milliseconds since the G9ii uses a tweaked GH6 image sensor. You are correct that the OM-1's stacked back-side illuminated sensor could potentially read out faster than 8 milliseconds, but they chose to have a quad pixel auto focus system that essentially has 4 auto focus pixels for each actual photo pixel, thus the sensor has to scan 80 megapixels worth of data instead of 20 megapixels @mipmipmipmipmip
A great balanced review! It’ll be very interesting to see what the future for m43 holds. Clearly worth the long wait for the Mark II. Until I absolutely can’t do without, I’ll be happily shooting on my EM1 Mk III. M43 is a shockingly underrated system.
I will also be shooting on my EM1 Mk III for a while. For the type of shooting I do with it (mainly travel) it's a great camera. I also have a Pen F that I love and will never sell. So much to like about M43.
I fully agree! But as long as we have all these Canikon and Sony FF fanboys and UA-camrs beating on the "small" sensor, it'll continue to be a tough slog.
Regarding FPS, the OM-1 has two modes, and you only mentioned one. In SH1, it can do 120 fps, with any lens, but not continuous focus/exposure. In SH2, which you mentioned, it drops to 50 fps, has continuous AF and exposure, and limits the lenses.
What's the point of having 120fps if it's not continuous? The whole point of burst modes is to capture moving subjects like in sports photography which is what I mainly do
@@thetoyota86perspective54 Sports, like capturing a golf swing? How about group portraiture when trying to get everyone with the best eyes and expressions? Maybe catching the best shot of a wave or other water feature/fountain? Maybe playing around with other forms motion capture (not sure that's the right term, but capturing a series of shots as an event occurs, like something being hit, drops of something going into another pool/container of liquid, etc). Really anything that benefits from fast sequential image capture that doesn't have a lot of distance variation, especially if 120fps provides better results in comparison to 50/60 fps.
@@POVwithRC See my response to the Toyota guy. (Also, I'm way past measuring my self worth by length of my monopod. Maybe keep the snark to yourself. Most of us here have perfectly good cameras.)
Emily, glad you pointed out the OM-1's limitations with high speed burst mode. As the owner of expensive Pana Leica glass, it is very frustrating that they are limited to 25 FPS. This seems to be purely an OM System software decision, as you point out, all lenses function at 60 FPS on the G9II. Come on OM System, release a firmware update to remove these limitations!
The big advantage of in-camera focus stacking (even to JPEG) over post-processing is that you can discover whether your focus-bracket will actually stack when you're still in the field, so you know when it's safe to stop shooting.
I don't know how reliable the Olympus stack processing is, but in the G9 the in-camera can produce artifacts on a perfectly fine stack series. I don't bother using the feature...especially since in the G9 that's limited to 6K images.
Great comparison, thanks. I have the OM-1. I think the biggest omission with the lumix is that they do not have any serious tele lenses. The oly 300mm for instance, is awesome. But I shall be looking at thuscseriously as a second body. To go with my oly lenses. And even add the Leica 100 400 (which is a but contradictory of myself) great to have them both in the stable.
Thanks for the comparison review! This is an excellent matchup. I'd be interested to see how the rolling shutters compare for still images of fast moving objects.
Fantastic specs and performance on the G9II. Would love to see an updated GX85 now. Still love using the Live ND in the Olympus. The shadows are so clean when you process the raw files.
the GX85's unofficial successor is the Gx9, and I would love an update. My go to camera and I love it. With PDAF i could shoot a wedding using it with the 15mm f/1.7, the 25-50mm f/1.7 & oly 75mm f/1.8
Excellent very professional side by side comparison of two of the top cameras in the M43 system. I wish to express my sincere thanks to OM system & Panasonic for keeping the M43 system going. I absolutely love the M43. I gave up on my FF almost overnight after using the Lumix G9 on a field trip. the results out of this camera was astonishing to say the least. I parted with my canon 5D mk IV in a heartbeat and have never even felt the remotest desire to go back to FF. We now have the G9, OM1 & GH5s in our family and we love them all, the 5s for video, G9 for all things travel and the OM1 for BIF. Thanks once again Emily
Thanks for sharing this early comparison 👍🏻 The stabilisation on the G9II looks incredible. It's good on the OM-1, but it was significantly better on the G9II.
@@MicroFourNerdsDo you have any way of testing the RAW HDMI output from the G9II? Atomos recorder for example. Would love to know what it supports; 10/12 bit RAW and 120fps etc... Thanks
Thank you. You very well described the current issues with the OM-1 Autofocus. Although it identifies and focusses birds very well, it sometimes still focusses on other things in the picture. Looks like panasonic cought up here very well. Now it is up to OM-Systems to take the next step. I'm looking forward to the next bigger firmware-update for the OM-1
Excellent comparison Emily. And thanks for testing things that many people don’t. As for noise comparison in raw files, I hold the opinion that it is best to use jpgs for that as you’re also testing the camera processing of those high ISO situations - even without extra noise reduction. So I’m actually glad you used jpgs for that test. (And I rarely shoot raw files anymore.)
@@shardanette1 I am not blessed with that kind of early access to Lumix gear. I completely trust Emily to give us the honest goods. I will have to wait until it arrives for sale in Canada. And then of course, decide if it’s for me. (Who am I kidding, of course I want one.) 😂
Right now the OM System 'wild card' is related to the lenses for wildlife. Both the 300mm f/4 Pro and the 150-400mm f/4.5 pro offer Synch IS on the OM-1, but they will not have that when used with the G9ii. Maybe the G9ii IBIS will make that a non-issue, but that remains to be seen.
well done!!! I do hope OMDS is watching and listening to this video (OM-1 fw update time). - you can make custom AF Target groups with the OM-1. so, you could make an AF Target group similar to G9II's depticed in the video (one or two [or three or four] rows wide and covering the screen left to right).
Alright, if Lumix made a rangefinder style GX8II based on G9II internals, I'd have to pull the trigger. But for now, my OM1 does everything I need. But I'd love a smaller daily carry that does everything and has LUT for custom look on the go.
I like that they’re using the same body as the s5ii for swapping cages and accessories. I’d like to see that happen to the gh/s1 lines too. I know the gh6 is big for mft (and I love it’s size) but I doubt they’d be able to use the gh6 body for the s1hii just based off how big the current s1h body is…but my dream is to see identical bodies for the gh7/s1hii based on the gh6 body (with independently lockable dials)
Although I agree that the G9 ii is the better choice for most people, I've just purchased a used OM-1 even after the G9 ii being announced. There are some reasons to choose it over the G9 ii, although some are quite niche: - I think it's the better choice for macro photography, particularly of moving subjects and/or extreme macro. It can use a flash with electronic shutter, up to 1/100th shutter speed, which none of the Panasonic cameras so far have been able to do and so I assume the G9 ii can't either (although it would be great to have it confirmed). It can even do this with focus bracketing. The focus bracketing is typically much faster on Olympus/OM devices than Panasonic too (again I would love to know if this has changed). Not only that, but the Olympus 90mm 3.5 macro is one of the best macro lenses ever, and the OM has Sync IS with it. - The OM-1 also has a better complement of computational photography modes. Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND - all have their uses and could sway people who do long exposure or astrophotography - There are other advantages of the OM-1's stacked sensor - the main one for me being the reduced rolling shutter - Finally, you can pick up an OM-1 used for a good price if you're patient - it'll be a good 18 months before G9 iis are being resold at these prices Overall I'd say that from a photography perspective, the G9 ii seems to do most things a little better than the OM-1 (although the OM-1 is also very good at them), but there are a few features the OM-1 has that the G9 ii doesn't have at all. It's a different story if you include video where the G9 ii can do many things the OM-1 can't though!
It's those computational modes : Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND & Composites (which of course the G9ii can also take) which has me selling off half my Sony gear (I'm keeping my A7r5!!) to fund a M43 kit (OM1 and 5-6 lenses). I'm looking to see if the G9ii can also handle them - if not I'm afraid that rules it out for me (though I'd love that video capability) ! I should add that I especially wanted the OM1 (and to hire the 150-400/4.5) for safaris (having used Sony A9 + A7r5 + 200-600 on the last).
Great and natural review with very good comparisons young lady ! That information about the burst modes was indipensible ! Finally got all the information I needed to jump up and grab my piggy bank , smash it and go out and invest in the G9-2. Thanks so much. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for a good over view of the two cameras. If I had to pick one it would be the OM-1 just because it has features that I think that I would use. They are both fantastic cameras, but I will not be buying either for now( not in my budget ).
On OM-1 you can set up 4 custom target modes (focus boxes), horizontal and vertical too. You even can set up their length and width. Rob Trek has a good tutorial about it.
@@MicroFourNerds it is in the same place as the other modes, but the custom modes have their checkboxes unchecked, to not show up when cycling modes when they haven't been defined. Go in the menu, define a shape you like, check its box and it'll show up in the same place as the standard focus areas.
I was just going to comment that too. I´m using the custom mode on my OM1and has made a horizontal area just like you show on the G9II. Works great for bird photography.
Great comparison Emily and it's good to see strong competition in the MFT market. It will be interesting to see what the final firmware version can do, and of course future firmware updates. I wonder though, in general, why video performance gets such strong emphasis. I understand that it's very important to (professional) filmmakers and UA-camrs, but what percentage of people who buy these cameras use their cameras mostly for serious video work vs. serious photography. I'd be interested in some statistics about this.
I love your focus tracking tests! I'm a prehistoric stills shooter and I'm finally starting to figure out what the fuss is about. But a thought came to me that if I was doing this test with myself "What if it doesn't think I'm human?"
Something I didn't notice in the review is comparisons of rolling shutter. Om1 is a stacked sensor that reads out much faster than the g9ii. This enables much more reliable electronic shooting for fast moving subjects like birds.
Thank you for the informative comparisons. I have a G9 “mark 1“ and love it. I don’t really need another camera, right now, but the G9MarkII is calling to me.
We would expect the latest model to perform a bit better, but the G9 MII is waaay out in front here. You did some fantastic work in putting this video together. Thanks!
Watch Red35's video on this as a few errors were made in these tests, for example comparing the G9II duel-IS to the OM-1s body-only IS with a non-stabilised lens (tbf Emily has commented on Red35's video to say she hadn't realised she'd made this mistake), OM-1 actually has more focus area options (not fewer), and as Red23 has shown, focus acquisition does not appear to be any slower on the OM-1 if you set it up correctly. Still, I do think this is a good video and I am keen to see Emily's follow-up video I believe she is making on safari in Kenya.
Both cameras are currently $2600 in Canada. Suspect we will see a firmware update soon from OM perhaps to minimize some of the differences. Just guessing of course.
I get it you're a Lumix fan, but parts of this review are a tad misleading re the OM-1, eg. re the AF targeting boxes (around 6:49 in), the OM-1 allows user created custom shaped boxes to be used, I have a narrow horizontal one on the OM-1 just as you showed being used on the G9II.
I would consider the biggest competitor of OM1 is G9ii and vice versa so thanks a lot for taking the effort and time to do the comparison. But note that if G9ii can't combine photos (of different focuses) in camera, it can't be stated as supporting focus stacking. The correct saying should be it supports focus bracketing but not focus stacking.
This is very useful, thanks! I'm working with a new OM-1 and happy with it for wildlife, mostly because the 300mm F4 telephoto is so good. But Panasonic is so welcoming to Zuiko and OM lenses, which raises the (premature!) question of the next upgrade. As long as I can keep that superb 300mm F4 lens.
How would the dynamic range be compared to the old G9? And is there actually a noticeable difference in resolution with lenses like the Leica 8-18mm that’s lacking in sharpness around the edges? I want to be interested in this camera but the detail compared to my old Leica SL from 2015. Do you think it’s worth it? I have a decent lens lineup: Olympus 12-40mm, Leica 8-18mm, Leica 25mm II, Leica 42.5 1.2, and Leica 15mm 1.7
That´s a great comparison. Well done! The G9II really gives the OM1 a match as "king of M4/3" :) You missed a couple of things on the OM1 but it´s got a huge amount of features so that´s ok. The IBIS-test isn´t really fair though. You´re using the 150mmF2.8 wich don´t have stabilisation and comparing that with the combined stabilisation of the lens and IBIS on the Panasonic. When filming with combined stabilisation on the OM1 and a lens with stabilisation it´s very "gimbal-like" just like you show with the Panasonic. With the 150-400F4.5 1.25x telezoom and the 2x converter wich gives you 1000mm you can use it handheld at 1/50s. That´s really amazing. It would be really fun to try the G9II with the 150-400 lens and see how that works. Panasonic has great colors and the videofeatures seems to be a lot better than the OM1.
Oh to be young again. I just bought the OM-1 and this video calls it “slightly older now.” A year and a half ago when the OM-1 came out I was the same old man I am today. That camera is an amazing marvel of technology.
Was the real world AF test shot in V-log? What profile was used on the OM1? Because I am surprised how much more I like the colours from that OM1! Looks much more organic and smooth.
You can! I'm sorry for that mistake, however its just a typical olympus thing that that customisation mode is hidden in the menus! Because it wasn't an option when I cycled through the main options I assumed that was all available. I am so happy it does have it though it'll be super handy for safari!!
That was probably the most useful and best review for my purposes that I have seen for the new G9 anywhere, and I do mean anywhere else. Well done, good efforts into this video are obvious and required work on your part. Excellent! My wish is that they had smaller versions of RAW file output. As someone who uses the G9 for real estate I blend the images via enfuse and they are great but unnecessarily large. The GH3 did only 16 megapixel RAW and that was closer to the mark for my needs. Even then, 12 would be more than enough. Now with 25 megapixel it would be nice to offer several RAW sizes to choose from. Fuji has the same problem. My Canon equipment lets me choose RAW size output and that is a big deal. I mean you can do nice work on 8 megapixels. It depends on if you need to crop. God bless!
Great review. Just a simple comparison. At last an upgrade way overdue to the G9. I really like the presentation. Spec for the G9 make it worthwhile for me without having to get new lenses. I shall be looking for a sensible bundle as soon as I can pre order. Just won't be available in time for a trip to Petra in November. Thanks
Camera looks great, but I REALLY need to see some raw files on how much shadow & highlight recovery is improved before I make a desicion. No reviewer has done that yet... is there a reason for this?
A great review! It will be interesting to see how Panasonic markets the G9ii, as OM's marketing has been almost entirely focused toward wildlife, birding and macro photographers. They've given a strong impression that they're only usable for that. The fact that the OM-1's bird and animal tracking got a big update from the older bodies, but their human eye/face tracking is still mediocre, just reinforces the impression that OM is all-in with birders and hikers. My old G9 was more reliable in tracking faces 3 years ago than OM-1 is now, although until Panasonic finally included PDAF, the actual AF system wasn't good enough to stick with the faces it was tracking. I sold my G9 in late 2022 and got an OM-1 and I'm overall quite happy with it. I've never needed a burst rate higher than 20 fps, so the fact that these cameras can do 25, 50 and 60 doesn't really matter much to me :) If I hadn't already sold the G9 for the OM-1, I'd be selling it now and going for the G9ii, especially for its improved human subject tracking. I use an MFT camera as a second body alongside Canon full frame when I shoot weddings and events, and Canon has really spoiled me when it comes to keeping faces in focus! I'm about to take my OM-1 on a 6 day hiking adventure in Grand Teton nat'l park in Wyoming, with my 8-25 f/4 wide angle and the Panasonic 50-200 f/2.8-4 telephoto and I expect it will perform brilliantly all around! I don't think the G9ii's advantages are significant enough for me to consider switching brands again, but I do hope it spurs OM to release some firmware updates that make their human subject tracking competitive!
Brilliant review!! I own a G9 and a Nikon D850 - lusting after G9II. You are so right about the buffer✅ It is really annoying that Dual IS does not work cross platform - I could use that for my Olympus PRO lenses on my G9 body. My fantasy setup is Olympus 150-400mm with G9II - really need Dual IS for that to work!! -->I have evolved to shooting in Manual Mode with Auto ISO - Exposure Compensation adjusts ISO. All of which requires 3 dials on the Camera. G9 has 3, OM1 does not.
Having an OM-1 for almost a year I am very satisfied with the OM-1 and I am sure I dont want to switch for the following reasons: 1. I do not make a lot filming. What I like though is slow motion and the G9II slow lotion capability is imoressive. 2. I don't need the superior burst mode capabilities. 10fps is for me enough. Selection of the best picture of a burst shot series on camera monitor is not effective, I need a computer monitor but I don't want to look at hundreds of pictures. 3. Pre burst of 0.5s is enough for me. I never missed a critical take off 4. I love the in camera focus stacking of the OM-1. 5. I love the stary sky auto focus of the OM-1. That was a game changer for my astro photography. 6. High res with pixel shift is limited to still photography. I use this not often. Could be better, though. 7. Native ISO up to 25600 is very helpful for me because my main field is bird photography and wild life in general. I found that up to ISO12800 I can use the pictures if I denoise with Topaz AI Denoise. So even if I would switch to a new mft system it would be a hard decision. As one comment pointed out I have the feeling that both cameras complement each other very well. And the G9II will strengthen the mft market! 👍
I've been disappointed by my OM-1 in the video department, but extremely thrilled by its macro capabilities. I think I'll replace my G9 by a G9-ii and use that for wildlife (since I already have a PL 100-400 bought in 2020) , and stick with the OM-1 for macro stuff. These two camera have their own strengths and weaknesses, and complement each other very well.
Emily, Brilliant demonstration and content! I have the older cameras of Panasonic and Olympus systems (but not OMS), and I will probably upgrade to the newer Lumix G9MkII based on your work. I am curious of what you think of the FF Lumix S5II in comparison of the G9MkII. Thank you once again for all your hard work and honest comments.
Just thought yiu did miss the line ND feature that is available on the OM-1. G9II does not have an equivilant to that included. The Pro-Capture feature does also allow more that 0.5 of a second in pre-burst too. It allows you to select the number of frames, upto 70, which will determine how long it is based on frame rate.
Quite right, and 70 shots is pretty much equal to 1,5 seconds. However the buffer limits kicks in sooner when choosing a high number of preburst shots.
Thank you for the comparison. I currently use 2 OM-1 cameras for my shooting. The video quality is the best it’s been for their system, but the G9 II is definitely a step ahead. Hopefully OM System releases a firmware update featuring open gate recording. I find the focus stacking feature on the OM-1 to be a real time saver and for the work I’m doing speeds up the process. However, with that video quality I’d consider selling one of the cameras for a G9II.
Amazing comparison Emily. You obviously put in an awful lot of research and work putting this together and it shows. Thank you and I hope this video finds the large audience it deserves.
As a dedicated lumix macro photographer, i hate to say that the OM-1 blows Lumix and this camera out of the water in regards to focus stacking. OM and the previous Olympus OMD models all offer focus bracketing with third party flash such as Godox. Amazingly (and I'd say seemingly brainlessly) Lumix do not. Considering how macro is often about detail, and shooting invertebrates can be very haphazard, flash bracketing is becoming more of an essential tool in the community, and practically the whole community uses OM/OLY camera's as a result. Seeing how Lumix have the best IQ sensor, they are missing a serious trick by not introducing something that surely only needs firmware to implement. Incredibly disappointing, and a lost opportunity for sales.
The jury is still out on sensor quality comparison between these two cameras. Wait for full reviews for that, since raw files were not compared in this preview. It appears the G9ii uses a modified GH6 sensor since they are both dual gain 25 MP sensors. Also, in comparisons in image quality between the GH6 and OM-1 for stills, the OM-1 appeared to be sharper regardless of the resolution difference. This is likely due to the GH6 having an anti aliasing filter to reduce moiré, which is great for video and portraiture but a hinderance to pretty much every other genre of photography as a result of its perceptual loss of resolution. I am very curious if Panasonic removed the AA filter for the G9ii since it is a little more stills focused. As for dynamic range, especially around base ISO's the OM-1 blew the GH6 out of the water, but apparently the G9ii's dual gain has been tweaked to improve dynamic range near its base ISO, so it will be interesting to see how it compares. As for performance at high ISO's the OM1 performed slightly better than the GH6, probably due to it being a Sony fabricated sensor and it being back side illuminated. Furthermore, the OM-1 will likely have less rolling shutter in stills and video due to its stacked sensor design. I believe the OM1 has an 8ms readout speed while the GH6 has a 17.8ms readout speed.
Super review!!! My former fav Panasonic body was/is the GX9...I now use EP3...EPL8...and EPL9 mini bodies for my M43 gear...But... I have been looking at the G9 II...At 70 yrs young... I have decided to go solely with M43 gear ...slowly trading out my Canon and Sony gear...(I have had M43 gear continuously since the EP1 and EPL1 came out)...
Thanks for the early comparison. I bought the OM1 a few months ago. Not yet used it in earnest. Had I had the option of a G9II back then, it would now be a hard decision. I don't shoot much video, so I suppose it would come down to photo shooting. Currently, for wildlife with the 60fps, electronic, better buffer and better long focus length IBIS, together with (currently). superior focus tracking, Then, the G9II would perhaps sway me. Hopefully, this is something OM Systems can work on to improve the focus tracking in a firmware update. At least Panasonic has given OM Systems a 'wake up' call here. Had the G9II had 'Live' ND then it would make it the (almost) perfect M43 camera and a 'no brainer'. I really do like the 'Live' ND feature of the OM 1 - shooting mainly land, sea and cityscapes as I do.
you can find that in photons to photos. It would be very interesting to understand the huge sacrifice in dynamic range that the Pana sensor has when using Electronic Shooter
Thank you for this review. That is the comparison I was looking for. Especially the face detection on the OM-1 feels underwhelming. And your video shows how much better the G9II is. I don't shoot animals. Available light scenes with a lot of portraits are most important to me. I like about the OM-1 that it's smaller (yes, the few mm are a lot to me). And the stacked sensor makes the electronic shutter so good that I don't need ND filters anymore for my f1.2 lenses during the day. But Panasonic just has the better AF software. OM System has failed in delivering appropriate software for their great camera. Even my Olympus E-PL10 feels more confident when detecting faces. And there have been no significant updates to the OM-1 since firmware 1.3. Lowering AF sensitivity does improve performance though. The 25MP are not so relevant for me but are a real upgrade. Let's see what to do when I can hold the G9II in my hands later this year. Actually, I don't feel like changing cameras...
I was planning on waiting for the G9II to come out before deciding on a new camera, but I ended up getting the OM-1 earlier this year. I don’t regret it. I’m happy the G9 is out and very impressive. But for my use, I think the OM-1 is ideal. I don’t shoot video really, and the features, ergonomics and interface it has really feel perfect for me. I also use the in-camera focus stacking and other OM computational modes a lot. Since I mostly shoot in jpg it’s ideal. It feels like the ultimate hobbyist camera to me, even though it’s a pro model. It’s awesome to see MFT doing so well at the moment in terms of the flagships. Perhaps the lower models leave quite a bit to be desired though. If I had waited, I’d probably have bought the G9II, and missed out on a lot of the computational stuff, so I’m glad I didn’t. But most people probably should get the G9 to be honest. I think you were quite charitable to the OM-1.
I own the GH6. I've recently conducted some video tests with the OM1. The video quality of the OM1 is very good and, apart from a few high-end professional modes that most people never use, it is on par with the GH6. The significantly lower weight of the OM1 is an additional advantage in this regard.
I love what you have shown of the G9 II and will most likely be adding it to my kit. The one con of the huge buffer and 60fps vs the OM-1 is the time to clear the buffer. Duade Paton found that the G9II took 53 seconds with the fastest SD card to clear the 200 shots in the buffer. The OM-1 took 9 seconds to clear 152 images. For a wildlife photographer, that would be an eternity as the G9II locks up camera functions when clearing the buffer so the photographer has to wait for a minute or use a secondary camera. I am not sure how fast the buffer will clear for photos if writing to a fast external SSD. I do wish Panasonic would have included two of the OM-1 features in this camera - the simulated ND filter and the composited stacked photo image. Everything else seems to be in the G9II's favor when it comes to photography and video. This is not a knock on your video as I think it is well made a you have included an in-depth review of all the functions. As you did not have time to review every possible questions your viewers would ask, I am just adding a comment here and there as I find out some limitations of the camera before would be buyers hand over their cash. This may be a deal breaker for some wildlife photographers if Panasonic is unable to come up with a solution in firmware like slowing down the frame rate while the images are being written to the card.
Thats a really good point! I watched that video last night actually and thought the video was fantastic and really helpful! I think the slower write speed is annoying for sure. But I will also say having just got back from safari (which is hammering 10fps mostly, rather than the faster burst modes) I had no problems at all. I don't think I hit the buffer once on either camera. During a bird hide session, if you had a lot of action to capture at once, then it would definitely be more of a problem 100%.
I did some testing on the High Resolution Mode of my OM1 and my GH6. Whereas I can hardly see any difference in detail between the 20 MP and High Res Mode on my OM1, there is a huge improvement in details between the 25 MP and the High Res Mode on my GH6. I personally think that the High Res Mode works much better on the Lumix: Tripod and Handheld.
Smashing stuff and b...dy fast turnaround, Emily! Am still not regretting buying the OM-1, or the somewhat swap from Lumix to Oly, but as of now the M43 community is spoilt for choice in the high end. I am curious as to what trickles down to the OM-10, (hopefully) the GX10 and how the G9MkII pricepoint may influence the OM-1 pricing.
That's exactly my attitude too - can't really go wrong with either of them! The om1 is super impressive and I hope both brands trickle down all these epic updates into the smaller cameras bodies! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Oof, this is going to be quite a showdown! Panasonic has really come out swinging against the OM1. The G9 II meets and exceeds just about every aspect of performance Also, top tier IBIS joke
OM Systems has been really good about putting out firmware updates. Here's hoping this incentivizes even more improvements. AF could still use some work, and I'd love to see them broaden the lenses that support high burst rates. I do think Panasonic coming out with the G9 ii almost 2 years after the OM-1 was released does give it a bit of an advantage. Considering how many years it takes for R&D before bringing a product like this to the market, I doubt we'll see a true OM-1 replacement for another couple of years. The tech used is slightly dated already when compared to the G9 ii, where as it was pretty impressive at the time of release. Here's hoping they can do some tweaking with the firmware to make up for its shortcomings. I doubt everything can be addressed, but as an OM-1 owner, I have to keep optimistic. The company is just getting started with the camera department after all.
@@jonathanscherer8567 At this point, I'm not accepting that the G9II - or any camera for that matter - can shoot at 50 or 60fps continuous auto focus with *any* lens. That ability is more dependent on the lens than it is the camera. One of the qualities mentioned in every lens review is focus speed - not to mention stop-down speed - and there are lenses out there that surly can't perform at that speed. I'm open to see that ability truly demonstrated on the G9II, in which case I will stand in awe. 🙂
I think it really depends on your subjects. If you need the oly 300mm lens to nail birds in flight you pick the OM-1. Higher grade lens than the 100-400 pl. If you want the dual is and are happy with the variable aperture with the 100-400 pl and the lightweight lens you go that way. I have both lenses and it's hard to minimise the shake with the 100-400pl without the dual is for birds perched but in flight you don't need stabilisation in either. I will probably get a g9ii for a look as the video has always been better with Panasonic but for birds in flight if you want the 300mm glass I think it's only om-1. Both great choices either way. Great comparison video, you bring life to us m4/3 users. Panasonic did have the advantage of being a newer camera but for those that said the cameras were dead we say we're just getting started ❤
Great work (and appreciated)👏. Feel free to do more head-head comparisons of these 2,.. consumers looking at high end m43 will be choosing between them.
Thank you, you’re fast becoming my favorite camera reviewer with your entertaining style and in depth real life comparisons. I started with the em 10 Mk ii as my first foray into learning photography. Such a good camera and a great instructor Robb Trek on how to get the most out of it. Now I’m excited to take the next step and want to buy a camera I don’t have to even think about upgrading for years to come. My main concern is size as the em 10 ii was the perfect travel camera. Looks like upgrading is going to mean a larger, heavier camera. I was leaning toward the OM 1 or OM 5 but The Lumix G9 ii looks like it’s going to be IT. I am an amateur into 90% photography ( birds, wildlife, landscape and hopefully astro soon and only 10% video. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your great comparison. I do shot photos of dogs which run towards me on a regular basis with the 40-150 mm lens on the OM-1. Quite similar like in your video. Unfortunately the AF of the OM-1 misses several shots. I wonder how the G9II performs in such a scenario.
I think you opened & closed on the right note; It's a great time to be a part of the m43 system. When Pana came up the L-mount I thought they would abandon m43 to focus mainly on FF and prove certain UA-cam channels correct...MFT is dying. Few observations from me as an intermediate/hobbyist shooter having shot with both systems (EM1's /OM1 & G9) 1. I love the material used in the Panasonic camera grips and the matte black color ❤ 2. 3.6K vs. 5.7 K dot EVF is quite a difference. I think you would notice it more than a difference in LCD resolution. I appreciate a more detailed EVF when shooting vintage lenses on m43. 3. The image stabilization on G9 mkii looks superb. OM1 might be able to make focusing more sticky and accurate via firmware update but I don't think they can match up with the Pana's IS 4. Computational modes like Live ND and Live Composite are super useful on my EM1's and opens up a whole new world. 5. Olympus lenses have always been more difficult to procure in the used market (in India) and generally more expensive than Lumix lenses. So I've always ended up using Pana lenses on Olympus bodies. It would be great if Olympus allowed better compatibility with Pana lenses and vice-versa. In recent times both companies seem to have a step-brotherly attitude towards one another. 😵💫 6. Regarding the use of 2X tele converter on the lumix 100 - 400 wouldn't it push the f stop to f 12 = f6.3 × 2 How usable would it be with relation to shutter speed/ISO? Anyways I'm happy that the MFT system is still rocking!!
Lowlight arguments are mostly baseless for majority of shooters IMO. Most almost never shoot in darkness or even close. Sony is still my choice for video BUT my M43 lenses FINALLY are back in play. Great Content Upload.
Is the OM-1 stabilization actually on in the wider shots? It looks like it's turned off. I've gotten smoother footage on my E-M1ii without as many jitters. The E-M1X and I think the E-M1iii had custom AF box sizes beyond the basic 3x3 and 5x5. I would assume the OM-1 has them too. Olympus C-AF has had C-AF sensitivity settings for awhile, and I imagine the OM-1 also has them. Going to +1 or +2 would probably make it snappier.
It is on in camera, but the only oly stock lens I own is the 8-25mm f4 Pro, which I thought had stabilisation but doesn't. So it's half a stop unfair without dual I.S. - as fair as I could make it with what I have
@@MicroFourNerdsI've used the same lens on my E-M1ii and E-M1x and I don't get footage that jittery with the uncropped mode without e-stab at 8mm. Wobbly corners yeah, but not jitter.
Nice comparison, and thank you! Would you be willing to add some comments regarding the differing dynamic range and how much difference this may, or may not, make regarding image quality?
I have been using the Panasonic G9 for about the last 3-4 years. I did test out both Olympus and Panasonic before making the choice of the G9 back then because I liked the top screen and buttons for WB, ISO, and +/- comp. On the Olympus I did like seeing in the Meta data where my focus point was in the photo. I only do photos so I am back to these two again as I plan to upgrade. Now, I am back comparing the 2 again. The OM built in ND might be a plus if it works well. I lose my top screen of settings on the new G9II which I find helpful. There was a learning curve using focus points in my old cannon and going over to LUMIX G9 focus area options. Have you done a video comparing the focusing options on both the LUMIX and OM? I have never found good extensive explanation of when to use the focus options for different subjects on the G9 except when it’s an animal or a person. Do you find the focusing easier on the G9II or the new OM?
I have the S5-1. I could see replacing that with the G9-2 since I have no desire to for the 75-300 in 35mm. What I really want is a GX8 successor with as much of the specs it can fit
I'm a long time subscriber and thoroughly enjoy the channel content and your upbeat and cheerful presentation style. That being said, your videos on the G9II have sounded as much like adverts for Panasonic as they have reviews. Respectfully, I think that in the interest of credibility and transparency, you (and all YT presenters) should begin these video reviews by explaining your business relationship, if any, with the company in question. ie. are you given, loaned or did you pay for the equipment you review and/or has the company paid for any travel associated with the product launch. I'm a long time Lumix user (including the OG G9 since 2018) and was prepared to order the G9II immediately, that is until I saw the body design (I will provide those thoughts in a later comment). Please take these comments as positive suggestions, I really do enjoy your content.
Sure, that's totally understandable!! To be clear, lumix have not given me the g9ii, it's loaned for a couple of weeks, and they haven't paid me to say anything (never have!). I'm not an ambassador just an excited camera nerd. I've bought the om1 with my own money. I really don't care either way which camera is better - I own the om1 so I'm really happy at how well it stacks up, even though it's a bit "older". I'm sorry if anything has come off as an advertisement, it's just uncanny how much this new g9ii has ticked a lot of my boxes. If it was smaller it would literally be perfect in my eyes!
@@MicroFourNerds Thanks for taking the time to respond and clarify Emily. Actually my concern with the G9II body is not about size, it's that they did not stay with the existing G9 body and simply change the internals. As an existing G9 user I'm disappointed that an upgrade to a G9II means investing in new batteries, a new L-bracket and new battery grip as well. IMHO based on what I have seen so far, the OG G9 looks better and, except for the the joy stick, seems to be functionally better (ie. top LCD, function lever and slightly better EVF). Also, I think Panasonic really missed and opportunity by not including the GH6 flip out/flip down and back LCD in the G9II. That would have been great addition. I'll be looking forward to more detailed comparisons of the IQ and Dynamic Range with the OG G9. As a landscape/nature photographer that is what is most important to me, and from what I have seen in other reviews the improvements don't seem to massive. Again, thank you for your reply, I looked forward to you future videos.
Great review! I really like what Panasonic has done with the G9 and not cripple the video features at all. On the other hand, is the stabilization of the OM-1 that bad? I don't remember it this bad when walking from other reviews.
Great review. This is the G9 people will really want. I have an EM1 Mkii and the OM1 isn't a big enough upgrade for me. The G9 would be. This thing will sell.
Lumix G9ii vs OM1ii video is here ua-cam.com/video/6VRB6sXYFAc/v-deo.htmlsi=S58_NR4iQmsab_k-
I’m 70 yrs old and just ordered the G9II - actually for shooting video for my real estate business. I am a farm and ranch broker. Listening to you is like listening to my daughter teach me all about the camera. I can’t thank you enough for your time and talent. I will have subscribed and I learned a great deal. Jim in Oregon
Thanks so much Jim! I think the g9ii would be perfect for that!
Hey Jim :) How as it been ? Just ordered a GX80 myself today as my first camera, but Id like to get a G9II if Im making serious work/money later
@@DarkTrapStudio Heym, Dark Trap! I have used Lumix cameras since the GH3 for video. Still use my GH5 all the time. I love the G9II for the open gate and the great codecs and frame rates that I can record to SSD. But, since we aren’t using these cameras to make movies for the big screen, I bet you will love the GX80! The biggest issue is just getting out and creating. The editing is 1/2 the battle. Let me know how you like your new camera!
@@jimcoon I love colorimetry, Ive learn with BlackMagic Design free courses and my dad was a graphic designer, also Ive learn all the basics with Studio Binger (Best UA-cam Cinema Channel, outstanding leesons there) and I have very good results shooting manual wich I prefer for photos, Ive already learn that great edit come from great photo so I really have no problem with it.
Im craving a Mitakon Speedmaster lens right now as the next step for hybrid video/photo shooting. (my GX80 come with 12-32 and 45-100 F3.5 decent kit lens)
I will let you know thanks a lot I really appreciate your wholesomeness.
Great review. A few things though that needed attention. The OM1 uses a new stacked 20MP sensor. It has a 80MP tripod mode. It's IP53 rated. It will shoot at 120fps with auto focus locked. It's EVF is 5.76k vs 3.68k. It has live time, starry sky AF and built in live ND filters. You should be able to set the focus area as you want, like you did with the G9 MK2 as my em1 MK3 does. And in all your tests the G9 was using dual IS, where none of your lenses would do that with the OM1. This will also apply to the focus speeds, as certain lenses focus faster than others. Try the 12-100mm IS F4, it's brilliant.
The prices here in Australia are exactly the same at $3299 body only. But OM systems have sales all the time, making it cheaper.
Saying all that I now think that the G9 MK2 is the better camera, which means that the OM1 will be discounted even more soon, hopefully.
As a Olympus/OM shooter I think this is great and well done Panasonic with this new camera, feels like family to me as both systems can use the same lenses and I love that, Micro Four Thirds is the winner here and long live this format
Thanks for the comparision. The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
I find the biggest draw are the superb small lenses.
Hi Emily,
Great comparison!
As a OM-1 user I can confirm that there is a possibility to add a wide horizontal or vertical AF target boxes. Go to the AF menu, 5 AF settings and operations Settings. Then AF target mode settings. Here you can create your custom target area. There are 4 custom slots available.
Aaah fantastic thank you! That'll come in very handy this week on safari!
The OM1 allows you to create a long, thin rectangular autofocus area. Either horizontal or vertical. Just like what you did with the Panasonic.
It does! I'm sorry for that mistake- olympus menus thwarted me again haha because it wasn't in the main place and not an option when cycling through I assumed it didn't have it. I am so happy it does!!! It'll be super handy for safari this coming week 😁
Once again misleading
This is a very good review of the G9II and comparison with the OM-1 - the best I've seen, so thank you!
Still, there are some things you might address in a future expanded video. You left out the features exclusive to the OM-1 like Live ND and Starry Sky AF, and the additional Live Compensation modes. Also, just to be specific, the OM-1 EVF has 5.76 million dots whereas the G9II has 3.68, so the OM-1 has 56% more, and the OM-1 is rated at IP53 weatherproofing (and has same rated lenses) whereas Lumix does not claim any recognized testing rating for the G9II or it's lenses. Perhaps in another video you can discuss the relative merits of the OM-1 stacked sensor vs. the slightly larger non-stacked G9II sensor.
Having said all that, as an Olympus/OM System person and OM-1 owner, I'm thrilled about the advancements in the G9II, not just relative to the G9/GH6 but also for the MFT system overall. Now, there are two amazing MFT flagship bodies for a fraction of the price of the high-end FF bodies, most of which still don't have all the features of the G9II or OM-1. Taken all together, the case for MFT vs. larger formats continues to get stronger.
Again, thank you for an excellent review.
You are a sage.
The OM-1 Does have the ability to create a custom focus box any size you want. You can create 4 custom options
G9 mark 2 all the way. I’m currently shooting Olympus,but I think I’ll be giving Lumix alot of consideration next time I get a new camera 🤩
Your BIF breakdowns were so excellent. This really helped me understand how great the AF is on the G9ii and hopefully with OM-1 some firmware updates to help it catch up!
The algorithm knew I *REALLY* wanted to see this so it showed up as the first video recommended to me. Since your last video I've been anticipating this release. Thanks for making this.
Excellent comparisons and demos Emily, you nailed it! Did you notice if the stacked sensor on the Om1 made much difference for skewing in video or electronic bursts over the G9II?
Thanks so much Gordon! 😁🙌
Master has spoken :) btw. I chose my feed camera based on review from Gordon. It was 14 years ago where did the time went…
interesting...@mipmipmipmipmip
@@ar43r it's quite alarming where the time went! I'm still here, plugging away though!
The OM-1 sensor readout speed is approximately 7.4 milliseconds and the G9ii is likely 17.8 milliseconds since the G9ii uses a tweaked GH6 image sensor. You are correct that the OM-1's stacked back-side illuminated sensor could potentially read out faster than 8 milliseconds, but they chose to have a quad pixel auto focus system that essentially has 4 auto focus pixels for each actual photo pixel, thus the sensor has to scan 80 megapixels worth of data instead of 20 megapixels @mipmipmipmipmip
A great balanced review! It’ll be very interesting to see what the future for m43 holds. Clearly worth the long wait for the Mark II. Until I absolutely can’t do without, I’ll be happily shooting on my EM1 Mk III. M43 is a shockingly underrated system.
I will also be shooting on my EM1 Mk III for a while. For the type of shooting I do with it (mainly travel) it's a great camera. I also have a Pen F that I love and will never sell. So much to like about M43.
I fully agree! But as long as we have all these Canikon and Sony FF fanboys and UA-camrs beating on the "small" sensor, it'll continue to be a tough slog.
Regarding FPS, the OM-1 has two modes, and you only mentioned one. In SH1, it can do 120 fps, with any lens, but not continuous focus/exposure. In SH2, which you mentioned, it drops to 50 fps, has continuous AF and exposure, and limits the lenses.
Yeah the g9ii has the same, I'm not interested in the locked focus modes personally, but they're level pegged either way in that respect 😊
What's the point of having 120fps if it's not continuous? The whole point of burst modes is to capture moving subjects like in sports photography which is what I mainly do
She did your OM a favour not mentioning it
@@thetoyota86perspective54 Sports, like capturing a golf swing? How about group portraiture when trying to get everyone with the best eyes and expressions? Maybe catching the best shot of a wave or other water feature/fountain? Maybe playing around with other forms motion capture (not sure that's the right term, but capturing a series of shots as an event occurs, like something being hit, drops of something going into another pool/container of liquid, etc). Really anything that benefits from fast sequential image capture that doesn't have a lot of distance variation, especially if 120fps provides better results in comparison to 50/60 fps.
@@POVwithRC See my response to the Toyota guy. (Also, I'm way past measuring my self worth by length of my monopod. Maybe keep the snark to yourself. Most of us here have perfectly good cameras.)
Wow, the woodpecker footage and pre-burst, I never thought I'd be drooling over m43 again
i hope they include this mode on Fullframe S1 or S1R mark 2 when it release
Wish they could bring this to the S5II too.
@@007silverwings sensor is not fast enough for that
Emily, glad you pointed out the OM-1's limitations with high speed burst mode. As the owner of expensive Pana Leica glass, it is very frustrating that they are limited to 25 FPS. This seems to be purely an OM System software decision, as you point out, all lenses function at 60 FPS on the G9II. Come on OM System, release a firmware update to remove these limitations!
I didn't even realiise this on the OM1 regarding the speed burst mode
To me there is two different m43 systems and it suck😂 there is always a some sort of limitations and only few mention them.
How do you know this is a 'software decision by OMS'?
@@stevemurnan1702 Because the electronic shutter is in the body not the lens?
The big advantage of in-camera focus stacking (even to JPEG) over post-processing is that you can discover whether your focus-bracket will actually stack when you're still in the field, so you know when it's safe to stop shooting.
That's a great point I never thought about it like that
I don't know how reliable the Olympus stack processing is, but in the G9 the in-camera can produce artifacts on a perfectly fine stack series. I don't bother using the feature...especially since in the G9 that's limited to 6K images.
@@bjnslcMaybe the G9II will be checked out for ‘artifacts’ by one of the reviewers .
I don't think the G9 II processes stacks in-camera like the G9 can. The artifacts come from stack processing failings. @@A2Z1Two3
Great comparison, thanks. I have the OM-1. I think the biggest omission with the lumix is that they do not have any serious tele lenses. The oly 300mm for instance, is awesome. But I shall be looking at thuscseriously as a second body. To go with my oly lenses. And even add the Leica 100 400 (which is a but contradictory of myself) great to have them both in the stable.
Thanks for the comparison review! This is an excellent matchup. I'd be interested to see how the rolling shutters compare for still images of fast moving objects.
Fantastic specs and performance on the G9II. Would love to see an updated GX85 now. Still love using the Live ND in the Olympus. The shadows are so clean when you process the raw files.
the GX85's unofficial successor is the Gx9, and I would love an update. My go to camera and I love it. With PDAF i could shoot a wedding using it with the 15mm f/1.7, the 25-50mm f/1.7 & oly 75mm f/1.8
@@whereismylife❤
Excellent very professional side by side comparison of two of the top cameras in the M43 system. I wish to express my sincere thanks to OM system & Panasonic for keeping the M43 system going. I absolutely love the M43. I gave up on my FF almost overnight after using the Lumix G9 on a field trip. the results out of this camera was astonishing to say the least. I parted with my canon 5D mk IV in a heartbeat and have never even felt the remotest desire to go back to FF. We now have the G9, OM1 & GH5s in our family and we love them all, the 5s for video, G9 for all things travel and the OM1 for BIF. Thanks once again Emily
Thanks for sharing this early comparison 👍🏻 The stabilisation on the G9II looks incredible. It's good on the OM-1, but it was significantly better on the G9II.
Yes! That was my conclusion with so much of these tests! The OM1 is amazing... the g9ii is just somehow taking it all even further!
@@MicroFourNerdsDo you have any way of testing the RAW HDMI output from the G9II? Atomos recorder for example. Would love to know what it supports; 10/12 bit RAW and 120fps etc... Thanks
Thank you. You very well described the current issues with the OM-1 Autofocus. Although it identifies and focusses birds very well, it sometimes still focusses on other things in the picture.
Looks like panasonic cought up here very well. Now it is up to OM-Systems to take the next step.
I'm looking forward to the next bigger firmware-update for the OM-1
Excellent comparison Emily. And thanks for testing things that many people don’t. As for noise comparison in raw files, I hold the opinion that it is best to use jpgs for that as you’re also testing the camera processing of those high ISO situations - even without extra noise reduction. So I’m actually glad you used jpgs for that test. (And I rarely shoot raw files anymore.)
I was hoping we'd see a g9II video from you as well.
@@shardanette1 I am not blessed with that kind of early access to Lumix gear. I completely trust Emily to give us the honest goods. I will have to wait until it arrives for sale in Canada. And then of course, decide if it’s for me. (Who am I kidding, of course I want one.) 😂
@@ImageMaven
Well, that's Panasonic's mistake.
8-25/4 Pro does not have lens IS. So test was IBIS only for OM-1 vs Dual IS for the PL12-60.
Right now the OM System 'wild card' is related to the lenses for wildlife. Both the 300mm f/4 Pro and the 150-400mm f/4.5 pro offer Synch IS on the OM-1, but they will not have that when used with the G9ii. Maybe the G9ii IBIS will make that a non-issue, but that remains to be seen.
well done!!!
I do hope OMDS is watching and listening to this video (OM-1 fw update time).
- you can make custom AF Target groups with the OM-1. so, you could make an AF Target group similar to G9II's depticed in the video (one or two [or three or four] rows wide and covering the screen left to right).
Alright, if Lumix made a rangefinder style GX8II based on G9II internals, I'd have to pull the trigger. But for now, my OM1 does everything I need. But I'd love a smaller daily carry that does everything and has LUT for custom look on the go.
Don't forget the 25 MP resolution this camera would have … this is what makes me look very hard in the direction of Lumix (as an Olympus user) …
I like that they’re using the same body as the s5ii for swapping cages and accessories. I’d like to see that happen to the gh/s1 lines too. I know the gh6 is big for mft (and I love it’s size) but I doubt they’d be able to use the gh6 body for the s1hii just based off how big the current s1h body is…but my dream is to see identical bodies for the gh7/s1hii based on the gh6 body (with independently lockable dials)
The remark on 6:58 is incorrect. You have the ability to create custom AF area shapes in OM-1, including a wide vertical or horizontal AF area.
Just about to post the same… thanks 👍
Although I agree that the G9 ii is the better choice for most people, I've just purchased a used OM-1 even after the G9 ii being announced. There are some reasons to choose it over the G9 ii, although some are quite niche:
- I think it's the better choice for macro photography, particularly of moving subjects and/or extreme macro. It can use a flash with electronic shutter, up to 1/100th shutter speed, which none of the Panasonic cameras so far have been able to do and so I assume the G9 ii can't either (although it would be great to have it confirmed). It can even do this with focus bracketing. The focus bracketing is typically much faster on Olympus/OM devices than Panasonic too (again I would love to know if this has changed). Not only that, but the Olympus 90mm 3.5 macro is one of the best macro lenses ever, and the OM has Sync IS with it.
- The OM-1 also has a better complement of computational photography modes. Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND - all have their uses and could sway people who do long exposure or astrophotography
- There are other advantages of the OM-1's stacked sensor - the main one for me being the reduced rolling shutter
- Finally, you can pick up an OM-1 used for a good price if you're patient - it'll be a good 18 months before G9 iis are being resold at these prices
Overall I'd say that from a photography perspective, the G9 ii seems to do most things a little better than the OM-1 (although the OM-1 is also very good at them), but there are a few features the OM-1 has that the G9 ii doesn't have at all. It's a different story if you include video where the G9 ii can do many things the OM-1 can't though!
Very good write up! That oly 90mm macro is insane!
It's those computational modes : Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND & Composites (which of course the G9ii can also take) which has me selling off half my Sony gear (I'm keeping my A7r5!!) to fund a M43 kit (OM1 and 5-6 lenses). I'm looking to see if the G9ii can also handle them - if not I'm afraid that rules it out for me (though I'd love that video capability) ! I should add that I especially wanted the OM1 (and to hire the 150-400/4.5) for safaris (having used Sony A9 + A7r5 + 200-600 on the last).
That G92 footage looks amazing!
Great and natural review with very good comparisons young lady ! That information about the burst modes was indipensible ! Finally got all the information I needed to jump up and grab my piggy bank , smash it and go out and invest in the G9-2. Thanks so much. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for a good over view of the two cameras. If I had to pick one it would be the OM-1 just because it has features that I think that I would use. They are both fantastic cameras, but I will not be buying either for now( not in my budget ).
On OM-1 you can set up 4 custom target modes (focus boxes), horizontal and vertical too. You even can set up their length and width. Rob Trek has a good tutorial about it.
I'll check that out thank you! I'm taking the om1 on safari with me this week and that'll be super handy! Why isn't it with the other modes 😂🙈
@@MicroFourNerds it is in the same place as the other modes, but the custom modes have their checkboxes unchecked, to not show up when cycling modes when they haven't been defined. Go in the menu, define a shape you like, check its box and it'll show up in the same place as the standard focus areas.
I was just going to comment that too. I´m using the custom mode on my OM1and has made a horizontal area just like you show on the G9II. Works great for bird photography.
Great comparison Emily and it's good to see strong competition in the MFT market. It will be interesting to see what the final firmware version can do, and of course future firmware updates.
I wonder though, in general, why video performance gets such strong emphasis. I understand that it's very important to (professional) filmmakers and UA-camrs, but what percentage of people who buy these cameras use their cameras mostly for serious video work vs. serious photography. I'd be interested in some statistics about this.
G9II IBIS looks close to GoPro which is impressive to say the least, for a walking shot.
I love your focus tracking tests! I'm a prehistoric stills shooter and I'm finally starting to figure out what the fuss is about. But a thought came to me that if I was doing this test with myself "What if it doesn't think I'm human?"
It was so funny watching both cameras lose their minds when I was shooting an ant eater- they couldn't figure out what was the eye 😂
Something I didn't notice in the review is comparisons of rolling shutter. Om1 is a stacked sensor that reads out much faster than the g9ii. This enables much more reliable electronic shooting for fast moving subjects like birds.
The rolling shutter readout speeds are 12ms on the G9II and 8ms in the OM1. Not a huge difference
@@Wildridefilms 4ms makes a huge difference. Take a look at Gordon Laing's video. The rolling shutter of the G9II is very noticeable.
No mention of the stacked sensor and no chance of rolling shutter ?
Thank you for the informative comparisons. I have a G9 “mark 1“ and love it. I don’t really need another camera, right now, but the G9MarkII is calling to me.
We would expect the latest model to perform a bit better, but the G9 MII is waaay out in front here. You did some fantastic work in putting this video together. Thanks!
Watch Red35's video on this as a few errors were made in these tests, for example comparing the G9II duel-IS to the OM-1s body-only IS with a non-stabilised lens (tbf Emily has commented on Red35's video to say she hadn't realised she'd made this mistake), OM-1 actually has more focus area options (not fewer), and as Red23 has shown, focus acquisition does not appear to be any slower on the OM-1 if you set it up correctly. Still, I do think this is a good video and I am keen to see Emily's follow-up video I believe she is making on safari in Kenya.
Both cameras are currently $2600 in Canada. Suspect we will see a firmware update soon from OM perhaps to minimize some of the differences. Just guessing of course.
I get it you're a Lumix fan, but parts of this review are a tad misleading re the OM-1, eg. re the AF targeting boxes (around 6:49 in), the OM-1 allows user created custom shaped boxes to be used, I have a narrow horizontal one on the OM-1 just as you showed being used on the G9II.
I would consider the biggest competitor of OM1 is G9ii and vice versa so thanks a lot for taking the effort and time to do the comparison.
But note that if G9ii can't combine photos (of different focuses) in camera, it can't be stated as supporting focus stacking. The correct saying should be it supports focus bracketing but not focus stacking.
This is very useful, thanks! I'm working with a new OM-1 and happy with it for wildlife, mostly because the 300mm F4 telephoto is so good. But Panasonic is so welcoming to Zuiko and OM lenses, which raises the (premature!) question of the next upgrade. As long as I can keep that superb 300mm F4 lens.
How would the dynamic range be compared to the old G9? And is there actually a noticeable difference in resolution with lenses like the Leica 8-18mm that’s lacking in sharpness around the edges?
I want to be interested in this camera but the detail compared to my old Leica SL from 2015.
Do you think it’s worth it? I have a decent lens lineup: Olympus 12-40mm, Leica 8-18mm, Leica 25mm II, Leica 42.5 1.2, and Leica 15mm 1.7
That´s a great comparison. Well done! The G9II really gives the OM1 a match as "king of M4/3" :) You missed a couple of things on the OM1 but it´s got a huge amount of features so that´s ok. The IBIS-test isn´t really fair though. You´re using the 150mmF2.8 wich don´t have stabilisation and comparing that with the combined stabilisation of the lens and IBIS on the Panasonic. When filming with combined stabilisation on the OM1 and a lens with stabilisation it´s very "gimbal-like" just like you show with the Panasonic. With the 150-400F4.5 1.25x telezoom and the 2x converter wich gives you 1000mm you can use it handheld at 1/50s. That´s really amazing. It would be really fun to try the G9II with the 150-400 lens and see how that works. Panasonic has great colors and the videofeatures seems to be a lot better than the OM1.
Oh to be young again. I just bought the OM-1 and this video calls it “slightly older now.” A year and a half ago when the OM-1 came out I was the same old man I am today. That camera is an amazing marvel of technology.
You can set a custom autofocus horizontal box on the OM-1 to be clear.
Your review of this camera the Panasonic G9ii is so impressive and amazing, keep up the good work.
Was the real world AF test shot in V-log? What profile was used on the OM1? Because I am surprised how much more I like the colours from that OM1! Looks much more organic and smooth.
Well done for this comparison. So detailed. Thank you.
😊At 6:50 you can costumize the AF box also in the OM-1
You can! I'm sorry for that mistake, however its just a typical olympus thing that that customisation mode is hidden in the menus! Because it wasn't an option when I cycled through the main options I assumed that was all available.
I am so happy it does have it though it'll be super handy for safari!!
That was probably the most useful and best review for my purposes that I have seen for the new G9 anywhere, and I do mean anywhere else. Well done, good efforts into this video are obvious and required work on your part. Excellent! My wish is that they had smaller versions of RAW file output. As someone who uses the G9 for real estate I blend the images via enfuse and they are great but unnecessarily large. The GH3 did only 16 megapixel RAW and that was closer to the mark for my needs. Even then, 12 would be more than enough. Now with 25 megapixel it would be nice to offer several RAW sizes to choose from. Fuji has the same problem. My Canon equipment lets me choose RAW size output and that is a big deal. I mean you can do nice work on 8 megapixels. It depends on if you need to crop.
God bless!
I think they're both excellent cameras, and if it was me (and I had the money!) I'd find it a really difficult task to choose between them.
Great review. Just a simple comparison. At last an upgrade way overdue to the G9. I really like the presentation. Spec for the G9 make it worthwhile for me without having to get new lenses. I shall be looking for a sensible bundle as soon as I can pre order. Just won't be available in time for a trip to Petra in November.
Thanks
Camera looks great, but I REALLY need to see some raw files on how much shadow & highlight recovery is improved before I make a desicion. No reviewer has done that yet... is there a reason for this?
A great review! It will be interesting to see how Panasonic markets the G9ii, as OM's marketing has been almost entirely focused toward wildlife, birding and macro photographers. They've given a strong impression that they're only usable for that. The fact that the OM-1's bird and animal tracking got a big update from the older bodies, but their human eye/face tracking is still mediocre, just reinforces the impression that OM is all-in with birders and hikers. My old G9 was more reliable in tracking faces 3 years ago than OM-1 is now, although until Panasonic finally included PDAF, the actual AF system wasn't good enough to stick with the faces it was tracking. I sold my G9 in late 2022 and got an OM-1 and I'm overall quite happy with it. I've never needed a burst rate higher than 20 fps, so the fact that these cameras can do 25, 50 and 60 doesn't really matter much to me :)
If I hadn't already sold the G9 for the OM-1, I'd be selling it now and going for the G9ii, especially for its improved human subject tracking. I use an MFT camera as a second body alongside Canon full frame when I shoot weddings and events, and Canon has really spoiled me when it comes to keeping faces in focus!
I'm about to take my OM-1 on a 6 day hiking adventure in Grand Teton nat'l park in Wyoming, with my 8-25 f/4 wide angle and the Panasonic 50-200 f/2.8-4 telephoto and I expect it will perform brilliantly all around! I don't think the G9ii's advantages are significant enough for me to consider switching brands again, but I do hope it spurs OM to release some firmware updates that make their human subject tracking competitive!
Brilliant review!! I own a G9 and a Nikon D850 - lusting after G9II. You are so right about the buffer✅ It is really annoying that Dual IS does not work cross platform - I could use that for my Olympus PRO lenses on my G9 body. My fantasy setup is Olympus 150-400mm with G9II - really need Dual IS for that to work!!
-->I have evolved to shooting in Manual Mode with Auto ISO - Exposure Compensation adjusts ISO. All of which requires 3 dials on the Camera. G9 has 3, OM1 does not.
Having an OM-1 for almost a year I am very satisfied with the OM-1 and I am sure I dont want to switch for the following reasons:
1. I do not make a lot filming. What I like though is slow motion and the G9II slow lotion capability is imoressive.
2. I don't need the superior burst mode capabilities. 10fps is for me enough. Selection of the best picture of a burst shot series on camera monitor is not effective, I need a computer monitor but I don't want to look at hundreds of pictures.
3. Pre burst of 0.5s is enough for me. I never missed a critical take off
4. I love the in camera focus stacking of the OM-1.
5. I love the stary sky auto focus of the OM-1. That was a game changer for my astro photography.
6. High res with pixel shift is limited to still photography. I use this not often. Could be better, though.
7. Native ISO up to 25600 is very helpful for me because my main field is bird photography and wild life in general. I found that up to ISO12800 I can use the pictures if I denoise with Topaz AI Denoise.
So even if I would switch to a new mft system it would be a hard decision. As one comment pointed out I have the feeling that both cameras complement each other very well. And the G9II will strengthen the mft market! 👍
I've been disappointed by my OM-1 in the video department, but extremely thrilled by its macro capabilities. I think I'll replace my G9 by a G9-ii and use that for wildlife (since I already have a PL 100-400 bought in 2020) , and stick with the OM-1 for macro stuff. These two camera have their own strengths and weaknesses, and complement each other very well.
Emily, Brilliant demonstration and content! I have the older cameras of Panasonic and Olympus systems (but not OMS), and I will probably upgrade to the newer Lumix G9MkII based on your work. I am curious of what you think of the FF Lumix S5II in comparison of the G9MkII.
Thank you once again for all your hard work and honest comments.
Just thought yiu did miss the line ND feature that is available on the OM-1. G9II does not have an equivilant to that included.
The Pro-Capture feature does also allow more that 0.5 of a second in pre-burst too. It allows you to select the number of frames, upto 70, which will determine how long it is based on frame rate.
Quite right, and 70 shots is pretty much equal to 1,5 seconds. However the buffer limits kicks in sooner when choosing a high number of preburst shots.
Yes I really should have clarified that you're spot on! I was comparing highest frame rate to buffer size for the time 0.5 time
Misleading again, funny how you are always accurate with the panny
Thank you for the comparison. I currently use 2 OM-1 cameras for my shooting. The video quality is the best it’s been for their system, but the G9 II is definitely a step ahead. Hopefully OM System releases a firmware update featuring open gate recording. I find the focus stacking feature on the OM-1 to be a real time saver and for the work I’m doing speeds up the process. However, with that video quality I’d consider selling one of the cameras for a G9II.
One think Lumix has done right was with its 25MP sensor, the extra 5MP helps with cropping for birding.
less noise also.
Amazing comparison Emily. You obviously put in an awful lot of research and work putting this together and it shows. Thank you and I hope this video finds the large audience it deserves.
Second that
As a dedicated lumix macro photographer, i hate to say that the OM-1 blows Lumix and this camera out of the water in regards to focus stacking. OM and the previous Olympus OMD models all offer focus bracketing with third party flash such as Godox. Amazingly (and I'd say seemingly brainlessly) Lumix do not. Considering how macro is often about detail, and shooting invertebrates can be very haphazard, flash bracketing is becoming more of an essential tool in the community, and practically the whole community uses OM/OLY camera's as a result. Seeing how Lumix have the best IQ sensor, they are missing a serious trick by not introducing something that surely only needs firmware to implement. Incredibly disappointing, and a lost opportunity for sales.
The jury is still out on sensor quality comparison between these two cameras. Wait for full reviews for that, since raw files were not compared in this preview. It appears the G9ii uses a modified GH6 sensor since they are both dual gain 25 MP sensors. Also, in comparisons in image quality between the GH6 and OM-1 for stills, the OM-1 appeared to be sharper regardless of the resolution difference. This is likely due to the GH6 having an anti aliasing filter to reduce moiré, which is great for video and portraiture but a hinderance to pretty much every other genre of photography as a result of its perceptual loss of resolution. I am very curious if Panasonic removed the AA filter for the G9ii since it is a little more stills focused. As for dynamic range, especially around base ISO's the OM-1 blew the GH6 out of the water, but apparently the G9ii's dual gain has been tweaked to improve dynamic range near its base ISO, so it will be interesting to see how it compares. As for performance at high ISO's the OM1 performed slightly better than the GH6, probably due to it being a Sony fabricated sensor and it being back side illuminated. Furthermore, the OM-1 will likely have less rolling shutter in stills and video due to its stacked sensor design. I believe the OM1 has an 8ms readout speed while the GH6 has a 17.8ms readout speed.
Super review!!! My former fav Panasonic body was/is the GX9...I now use EP3...EPL8...and EPL9 mini bodies for my M43 gear...But... I have been looking at the G9 II...At 70 yrs young... I have decided to go solely with M43 gear ...slowly trading out my Canon and Sony gear...(I have had M43 gear continuously since the EP1 and EPL1 came out)...
Thanks for the early comparison. I bought the OM1 a few months ago. Not yet used it in earnest. Had I had the option of a G9II back then, it would now be a hard decision. I don't shoot much video, so I suppose it would come down to photo shooting. Currently, for wildlife with the 60fps, electronic, better buffer and better long focus length IBIS, together with (currently). superior focus tracking, Then, the G9II would perhaps sway me. Hopefully, this is something OM Systems can work on to improve the focus tracking in a firmware update. At least Panasonic has given OM Systems a 'wake up' call here. Had the G9II had 'Live' ND then it would make it the (almost) perfect M43 camera and a 'no brainer'. I really do like the 'Live' ND feature of the OM 1 - shooting mainly land, sea and cityscapes as I do.
Please do AF tests with adapted EF lenses on a Speedbooster 🙏🏽
We need a lightweight camera like the OM-5 or em10 from panasonic!
Great review. Do you have any plans on comparing the dynamic range of both? Thx!
you can find that in photons to photos. It would be very interesting to understand the huge sacrifice in dynamic range that the Pana sensor has when using Electronic Shooter
Thank you for this review. That is the comparison I was looking for. Especially the face detection on the OM-1 feels underwhelming. And your video shows how much better the G9II is. I don't shoot animals. Available light scenes with a lot of portraits are most important to me.
I like about the OM-1 that it's smaller (yes, the few mm are a lot to me). And the stacked sensor makes the electronic shutter so good that I don't need ND filters anymore for my f1.2 lenses during the day.
But Panasonic just has the better AF software. OM System has failed in delivering appropriate software for their great camera. Even my Olympus E-PL10 feels more confident when detecting faces. And there have been no significant updates to the OM-1 since firmware 1.3. Lowering AF sensitivity does improve performance though.
The 25MP are not so relevant for me but are a real upgrade.
Let's see what to do when I can hold the G9II in my hands later this year. Actually, I don't feel like changing cameras...
I was planning on waiting for the G9II to come out before deciding on a new camera, but I ended up getting the OM-1 earlier this year. I don’t regret it. I’m happy the G9 is out and very impressive. But for my use, I think the OM-1 is ideal. I don’t shoot video really, and the features, ergonomics and interface it has really feel perfect for me. I also use the in-camera focus stacking and other OM computational modes a lot. Since I mostly shoot in jpg it’s ideal. It feels like the ultimate hobbyist camera to me, even though it’s a pro model.
It’s awesome to see MFT doing so well at the moment in terms of the flagships. Perhaps the lower models leave quite a bit to be desired though. If I had waited, I’d probably have bought the G9II, and missed out on a lot of the computational stuff, so I’m glad I didn’t. But most people probably should get the G9 to be honest. I think you were quite charitable to the OM-1.
I own the GH6. I've recently conducted some video tests with the OM1. The video quality of the OM1 is very good and, apart from a few high-end professional modes that most people never use, it is on par with the GH6. The significantly lower weight of the OM1 is an additional advantage in this regard.
I love what you have shown of the G9 II and will most likely be adding it to my kit. The one con of the huge buffer and 60fps vs the OM-1 is the time to clear the buffer. Duade Paton found that the G9II took 53 seconds with the fastest SD card to clear the 200 shots in the buffer. The OM-1 took 9 seconds to clear 152 images. For a wildlife photographer, that would be an eternity as the G9II locks up camera functions when clearing the buffer so the photographer has to wait for a minute or use a secondary camera. I am not sure how fast the buffer will clear for photos if writing to a fast external SSD. I do wish Panasonic would have included two of the OM-1 features in this camera - the simulated ND filter and the composited stacked photo image. Everything else seems to be in the G9II's favor when it comes to photography and video. This is not a knock on your video as I think it is well made a you have included an in-depth review of all the functions. As you did not have time to review every possible questions your viewers would ask, I am just adding a comment here and there as I find out some limitations of the camera before would be buyers hand over their cash. This may be a deal breaker for some wildlife photographers if Panasonic is unable to come up with a solution in firmware like slowing down the frame rate while the images are being written to the card.
Thats a really good point! I watched that video last night actually and thought the video was fantastic and really helpful! I think the slower write speed is annoying for sure. But I will also say having just got back from safari (which is hammering 10fps mostly, rather than the faster burst modes) I had no problems at all. I don't think I hit the buffer once on either camera.
During a bird hide session, if you had a lot of action to capture at once, then it would definitely be more of a problem 100%.
@@MicroFourNerds I'm looking forward to any video you make about your trip. I hope all went well and you had a great time.
@@simplyawesomephoto the current edit is 27 minutes long 😅🤣
@@MicroFourNerds I know 27 minutes doesn't help the algorithms but I watch your videos while I'm on the treadmill and enjoy the lengthier videos.
As a landscape photographer who hates tripods that handheld 100 megapixel mode of the G9ii sounds quite delicious.
I did some testing on the High Resolution Mode of my OM1 and my GH6. Whereas I can hardly see any difference in detail between the 20 MP and High Res Mode on my OM1, there is a huge improvement in details between the 25 MP and the High Res Mode on my GH6. I personally think that the High Res Mode works much better on the Lumix: Tripod and Handheld.
Smashing stuff and b...dy fast turnaround, Emily! Am still not regretting buying the OM-1, or the somewhat swap from Lumix to Oly, but as of now the M43 community is spoilt for choice in the high end. I am curious as to what trickles down to the OM-10, (hopefully) the GX10 and how the G9MkII pricepoint may influence the OM-1 pricing.
That's exactly my attitude too - can't really go wrong with either of them! The om1 is super impressive and I hope both brands trickle down all these epic updates into the smaller cameras bodies! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Pre-Burst-Time with the OM-1 is a function of fps and buffer size. So with 25 fps and 90 images buffer you get 3.5 seconds of pre-burst.
Oof, this is going to be quite a showdown!
Panasonic has really come out swinging against the OM1. The G9 II meets and exceeds just about every aspect of performance
Also, top tier IBIS joke
Doesn’t look good for OM
OM Systems has been really good about putting out firmware updates. Here's hoping this incentivizes even more improvements. AF could still use some work, and I'd love to see them broaden the lenses that support high burst rates. I do think Panasonic coming out with the G9 ii almost 2 years after the OM-1 was released does give it a bit of an advantage. Considering how many years it takes for R&D before bringing a product like this to the market, I doubt we'll see a true OM-1 replacement for another couple of years. The tech used is slightly dated already when compared to the G9 ii, where as it was pretty impressive at the time of release. Here's hoping they can do some tweaking with the firmware to make up for its shortcomings. I doubt everything can be addressed, but as an OM-1 owner, I have to keep optimistic. The company is just getting started with the camera department after all.
@@jonathanscherer8567 At this point, I'm not accepting that the G9II - or any camera for that matter - can shoot at 50 or 60fps continuous auto focus with *any* lens. That ability is more dependent on the lens than it is the camera. One of the qualities mentioned in every lens review is focus speed - not to mention stop-down speed - and there are lenses out there that surly can't perform at that speed. I'm open to see that ability truly demonstrated on the G9II, in which case I will stand in awe. 🙂
Panasonikc have released a number of lenese with motors that support 240 FPS, so 60 should be no issue.@@gregfeeler6910
I think it really depends on your subjects. If you need the oly 300mm lens to nail birds in flight you pick the OM-1. Higher grade lens than the 100-400 pl. If you want the dual is and are happy with the variable aperture with the 100-400 pl and the lightweight lens you go that way. I have both lenses and it's hard to minimise the shake with the 100-400pl without the dual is for birds perched but in flight you don't need stabilisation in either. I will probably get a g9ii for a look as the video has always been better with Panasonic but for birds in flight if you want the 300mm glass I think it's only om-1. Both great choices either way. Great comparison video, you bring life to us m4/3 users. Panasonic did have the advantage of being a newer camera but for those that said the cameras were dead we say we're just getting started ❤
Great work (and appreciated)👏. Feel free to do more head-head comparisons of these 2,.. consumers looking at high end m43 will be choosing between them.
Thanks for this review, I am looking for an upgrade of my OM-D E-M10 Mark IV.
Thank you, you’re fast becoming my favorite camera reviewer with your entertaining style and in depth real life comparisons. I started with the em 10 Mk ii as my first foray into learning photography. Such a good camera and a great instructor Robb Trek on how to get the most out of it. Now I’m excited to take the next step and want to buy a camera I don’t have to even think about upgrading for years to come. My main concern is size as the em 10 ii was the perfect travel camera. Looks like upgrading is going to mean a larger, heavier camera. I was leaning toward the OM 1 or OM 5 but The Lumix G9 ii looks like it’s going to be IT. I am an amateur into 90% photography ( birds, wildlife, landscape and hopefully astro soon and only 10% video. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Weird question but why not try someday something crazy stuff like M1 mark2 in city rentals
Thank you for your great comparison. I do shot photos of dogs which run towards me on a regular basis with the 40-150 mm lens on the OM-1. Quite similar like in your video. Unfortunately the AF of the OM-1 misses several shots. I wonder how the G9II performs in such a scenario.
I think you opened & closed on the right note; It's a great time to be a part of the m43 system. When Pana came up the L-mount I thought they would abandon m43 to focus mainly on FF and prove certain UA-cam channels correct...MFT is dying.
Few observations from me as an intermediate/hobbyist shooter having shot with both systems (EM1's /OM1 & G9)
1. I love the material used in the Panasonic camera grips and the matte black color ❤
2. 3.6K vs. 5.7 K dot EVF is quite a difference. I think you would notice it more than a difference in LCD resolution. I appreciate a more detailed EVF when shooting vintage lenses on m43.
3. The image stabilization on G9 mkii looks superb. OM1 might be able to make focusing more sticky and accurate via firmware update but I don't think they can match up with the Pana's IS
4. Computational modes like Live ND and Live Composite are super useful on my EM1's and opens up a whole new world.
5. Olympus lenses have always been more difficult to procure in the used market (in India) and generally more expensive than Lumix lenses. So I've always ended up using Pana lenses on Olympus bodies. It would be great if Olympus allowed better compatibility with Pana lenses and vice-versa. In recent times both companies seem to have a step-brotherly attitude towards one another. 😵💫
6. Regarding the use of 2X tele converter on the lumix 100 - 400 wouldn't it push the f stop to f 12 = f6.3 × 2 How usable would it be with relation to shutter speed/ISO?
Anyways I'm happy that the MFT system is still rocking!!
Welldone with the comparison video.. It's what i've been waiting for this video..❤❤
Lowlight arguments are mostly baseless for majority of shooters IMO. Most almost never shoot in darkness or even close. Sony is still my choice for video BUT my M43 lenses FINALLY are back in play. Great Content Upload.
I think for bif with the 100-400 lenses or macro in dark forests lowlight becomes very relevant for many shooters a lot faster then you might thin
Is the OM-1 stabilization actually on in the wider shots? It looks like it's turned off. I've gotten smoother footage on my E-M1ii without as many jitters.
The E-M1X and I think the E-M1iii had custom AF box sizes beyond the basic 3x3 and 5x5. I would assume the OM-1 has them too.
Olympus C-AF has had C-AF sensitivity settings for awhile, and I imagine the OM-1 also has them. Going to +1 or +2 would probably make it snappier.
It is on in camera, but the only oly stock lens I own is the 8-25mm f4 Pro, which I thought had stabilisation but doesn't. So it's half a stop unfair without dual I.S. - as fair as I could make it with what I have
@@MicroFourNerdsI've used the same lens on my E-M1ii and E-M1x and I don't get footage that jittery with the uncropped mode without e-stab at 8mm. Wobbly corners yeah, but not jitter.
also sorry I like to update my comments as I read them and I added a couple more questions after my stabilization one
The om1 has customizeable focus areas..
Great job, thank you! I was considering buying an OM1 until this video.
Nice comparison, and thank you! Would you be willing to add some comments regarding the differing dynamic range and how much difference this may, or may not, make regarding image quality?
We need a small Lumix body with PDAF. A successor to the GX9 would be great.
I have been using the Panasonic G9 for about the last 3-4 years. I did test out both Olympus and Panasonic before making the choice of the G9 back then because I liked the top screen and buttons for WB, ISO, and +/- comp. On the Olympus I did like seeing in the Meta data where my focus point was in the photo. I only do photos so I am back to these two again as I plan to upgrade. Now, I am back comparing the 2 again. The OM built in ND might be a plus if it works well. I lose my top screen of settings on the new G9II which I find helpful.
There was a learning curve using focus points in my old cannon and going over to LUMIX G9 focus area options. Have you done a video comparing the focusing options on both the LUMIX and OM? I have never found good extensive explanation of when to use the focus options for different subjects on the G9 except when it’s an animal or a person. Do you find the focusing easier on the G9II or the new OM?
I have the S5-1. I could see replacing that with the G9-2 since I have no desire to for the 75-300 in 35mm. What I really want is a GX8 successor with as much of the specs it can fit
I'm a long time subscriber and thoroughly enjoy the channel content and your upbeat and cheerful presentation style. That being said, your videos on the G9II have sounded as much like adverts for Panasonic as they have reviews. Respectfully, I think that in the interest of credibility and transparency, you (and all YT presenters) should begin these video reviews by explaining your business relationship, if any, with the company in question. ie. are you given, loaned or did you pay for the equipment you review and/or has the company paid for any travel associated with the product launch. I'm a long time Lumix user (including the OG G9 since 2018) and was prepared to order the G9II immediately, that is until I saw the body design (I will provide those thoughts in a later comment). Please take these comments as positive suggestions, I really do enjoy your content.
Sure, that's totally understandable!! To be clear, lumix have not given me the g9ii, it's loaned for a couple of weeks, and they haven't paid me to say anything (never have!). I'm not an ambassador just an excited camera nerd. I've bought the om1 with my own money. I really don't care either way which camera is better - I own the om1 so I'm really happy at how well it stacks up, even though it's a bit "older".
I'm sorry if anything has come off as an advertisement, it's just uncanny how much this new g9ii has ticked a lot of my boxes. If it was smaller it would literally be perfect in my eyes!
@@MicroFourNerds Thanks for taking the time to respond and clarify Emily. Actually my concern with the G9II body is not about size, it's that they did not stay with the existing G9 body and simply change the internals. As an existing G9 user I'm disappointed that an upgrade to a G9II means investing in new batteries, a new L-bracket and new battery grip as well. IMHO based on what I have seen so far, the OG G9 looks better and, except for the the joy stick, seems to be functionally better (ie. top LCD, function lever and slightly better EVF). Also, I think Panasonic really missed and opportunity by not including the GH6 flip out/flip down and back LCD in the G9II. That would have been great addition. I'll be looking forward to more detailed comparisons of the IQ and Dynamic Range with the OG G9. As a landscape/nature photographer that is what is most important to me, and from what I have seen in other reviews the improvements don't seem to massive. Again, thank you for your reply, I looked forward to you future videos.
G9ii, although I wish it was smaller but because it has so much going for it it's though
Great review! I really like what Panasonic has done with the G9 and not cripple the video features at all. On the other hand, is the stabilization of the OM-1 that bad? I don't remember it this bad when walking from other reviews.
The stabilization in the OM1 is not bad, but very good. G9 II might be a little bit better. However, the G9 is also a bit heavier and bulkier.
Great review. This is the G9 people will really want. I have an EM1 Mkii and the OM1 isn't a big enough upgrade for me. The G9 would be. This thing will sell.