It is not the son's responsibility to find the 'courage' to open up to his father; it is his father's responsibility to harbor the love and compassion to accept his child.
Exactly. If parents are doing their job correctly by making their children grow up feeling comfortable to express their feelings and emotions openly to their parents there would be no fear.
@@angemaidment5640 What responsibility does the son have? &, yes, if we're talking about sons & fathers, the sole responsibility for loving his son unconditionally is the father's.
@@raynarks The son needs help in overcoming his father's bigotry! Nothing more. The father needs help in becoming a good human being & loving his son unconditionally.
The moment he wiped his tears after realising his dad was not accepting him, I broke down to tears because that's a genuine reaction right there. Just when he thought his dad was okay with him being himself
@@Britishladstuff I never did either & the sad irony is that they'd have been understanding and loving. It's clear to me, however, that they "knew" & simply ignored it. The fallout for me is that I never had a monogamous relationship until after they died.
@@thatonebadasslighter Don't rush it. Just like I previously told a 14 yo above, take your time, find who you are. There's no rush. Find comfort in your own skin and friends who care about you. Your journey is your journey and a road to discovery is at your discretion.
We have a lot more jobs than unconditional love. We also have the jobs that include tough love, like controlling their diet, making them do their homework and chores, helping them learn responsibility and all that good stuff.
@@LadyIarConnacht Yeah, but remember that educating is not the same that controlling their lives. They're not marionettes and sexuality is a different topic.
@@LadyIarConnachtThe most important job is love. All of the other responsibilities don’t amount to much without love. I don’t understand why or how anyone could or would even want to form an argument against that basic principle. It’s love that should compel the other jobs in the first place. And if it doesn’t, a parent AND child will find out why it was more necessary sooner or later.
I had a genuine thought for a milisecond that he was gonna be one of those misunderstood Dads whom their kids thought the wrong things of... then it happened...
In many cases, the unfortunate reality is that these parents aren't misunderstood, and are just terrible people. Sure, maybe in time they come around. I've seen many cases where that happened too - child comes out as gay, parents don't want to accept and attempt to distance themselves, child says that's fine, don't talk to me until you can learn to accept me for who I am, and then, eventually, they do, and everything turns out okay. But the point to be taken away from this episode is that, even if your parents refuse to accept it and be there for you, there are plenty of people who are supportive, and the simple fact of the matter is these feelings are normal; there's nothing wrong with it, and you shouldn't have change, and you certainly shouldn't harm yourself trying to. Everybody deserves happiness and kindness.
Jeez-us, made me cry. I'm 70 and can understand the angst of the young man. It was rough in the 60's and 70's. I am so lucky to have had a loving and accepting Mom and Dad. I still battled self-hatred and self-loathing until I was in my 50's. I wear gay themed T-Shirts every day, everywhere I go, so that if a young person sees me, hopefully they can say, "If that old man can make it, so can I".
Well done you ! It takes a lot of courage to tell anyone who you are, but it shouldn't need to be that way. Some can never say it as they fear everyone will shun them or point the finger of abuse. It is nobody's fault how we are born, wired to be gay or bi instead of the majority heterosexual. Hopefully, into the future there will be no more hatred and young people can just be who they are, and be happy. I do see it happening slowly, but there are still plenty of bigoted folk about. Why can't they just leave others alone and get on with their own lives?
Brings back memories. I was so terrified of my father finding out I was gay when I was 13 that my skin broke out in huge, raw patches -- on my arms, behind my ears, on my back, on my legs - and nothing would fix it. I was finally treated with high-power steroids, which got the patches to go away -- so I developed an autoimmune disease. When I finally left home and got away from my father, the disease went away. Imagine that.
Wow. Your example explains everything about how much we can suffer only by thinking something that terrifies us. Thanks for sharing your story, it's important to learn and not repeat the same mistakes people made with us. We need to let people know (and raise young people to know) that they're safe with us and that we will love them no matter what. That way, they won't suffer as we did 💜
I and my brothers were terrified of our father too and none of us were even gay, when we left the house for good asap, we never saw him again, he had 40+ years to consider what he had done and when he passed away, we thought good riddance. Some of his failures were likely due to him growing up in extreme poverty during the war though and never getting a fair break himself, he wanted us to not have the same luck that he did not get but it worked out alright in the end. One of my kids may or might not be gay, but that is for them to find out.
@@johnjakson444But for you to create a welcoming place by you making affirmations that gay is ok and I love my kids regardless. If you let them know where they won't know where you stand; you are letting what was once a baby, struggle to define themselves, all alone in isolation. No one there for them, in regard to a fundamental aspect about themselves. You will also struggle to know them. There's lots of suicidal thoughts in an isolated person. Too many are successful.
I spent all my 20's trying to be 'normal' ie. heterosexual, but finally came out in my early 30's and accepted my 'normal' sexuality was homosexuality. I finally found my life partner when I was 50 and we have been together now for almost 29years with many more expected to come. My only regret was the wasted 10 years trying not to be myself, but it at least taught me a lot about myself.
Wow. I’m gay accepted myself at 11. I think I was depressed and hated myself for a long time, and didn’t really love myself until this year at 19. I was so worried for my safety as a kid because my family might’ve kicked me out. Now I’m bigger and taller than all my straight older brothers so their perceptions of being gay have definitely shattered. This really puts things into perspective though because I knew up I was gay very young, and the self acceptance journey started very young probably due to representation like Love, Simon
@@infinity-gs4mq Not a waste if you learned something . Try to remember we go through things on a journeys to get to our destiny. some folks go years before they find out the reason why and some never find the reason .
I am a straight man but I also consider myself an ally to the LGBT+ community, I am sickened that there is still homophobia in our world and I can't wait for the day when we can overcome such ignorance and non tolerance of those who wish to live their lives the way want to without fearing the repercussions.
Thank you. I wish my dad was an ally. He forced me to get married to a woman against my will. I hate them. Even now they do not allow me into their house
Sadly homophobia and ignorance will never truly go away. All we can do is stand up to it whenever it rears its ugly head. It’s everyone’s responsibility.
he will turn 18, leave and never look back. that’s what most of us did, and we’re happier now. it is important to understand that your family is made up of just people… literally just people. and if you feel unsupported, detach yourself from that dynamic. there’s plenty of others out there who will love & cherish you.
And one day, that father is going to find himself alone, in a nursing home, with no one coming to visit him -- and the son, having gone no contact years earlier, won't have anything to do with him -- and that father think about being alone, with no one coming to visit him; and it will be no one's fault but the father.
My parents haven't yet accepted my sexuality, and it's been more than 10 years since I told them. If you're not 100% sure they'll accept you, don't tell them anything until you have fully economic stability.
This is sadly true. And it doesn't matter if you could be easily labeled as gay by the way you act or if you are the straight-prototype. The only stable relationship I never had ended up due to my family's context and nothing will ever be the same.
@@carlotaglia absolutely. I've ever been visibly gay and my parents have never said anything about it. Neither has my therapist suspected they would react so badly. But they did and I couldn't see it coming. I shouldn't have come out to them.
Until I was 11 years old, being gay was a crime in the UK. Then, later, the AIDS virus set the progress towards acceptance back years. I grew up confused, scared, I had girlfriends, which wasn't fair on them, with hindsight. I denied the truth, even to myself. I never dared tell my parents. I was close to my grandfather, but I feared it would break his heart if I came out. I never had a proper relationship because other men were just as scared as me. Time this ended. Too many generations have been scarred by homophobia
It's a damn tragedy what our people have been put through, and you know, they pick on us because we are a minority, because we are different from the majority. We must all organize and find ways to build community. When we are together we are stronger. Scree all the religious bigots and immoral politicians who use us for their own power games.
Sadly in conservative US I had a similar experience- but for me it was in the 2000’s. Lost my family, lost a lot. As I started to accept myself, monkey pox dehumanized me in the eyes of my community. Fortunately the poor woman I married was an angel and is still my best friend. I hope that stories like ours become less and less
@ in the US it was used to paint queer men as promiscuous and less than. Sinful. It was the first Trump administration. Now we get the second. I’m scared for my life here in rural America
AIDS was a super scare and even though it's awful that it harmed so many people, it was probably good to be scared about it. Being scared probably saved a lot of lives. I'm glad you never caught it and that you are still with us today. PS - this is an improper use of the word homophobia. Homophobia is an overreaction to gay people due to self-hatred and a fear that you yourself are gay. Also some people were terrified for their kids to be gay, catch AIDS and die. That happened to my cousin. We were scared for him - he moved to San Francisco, caught AIDS and died. It was not "homophobia" that killed him.
@@GrumpyL5 Actually I could see some doctors getting mad themselves, personally I would even if I had to be professional I'd at least remind him he was gonna leave like the other doctor did.
Heart wrenching twist. Was expecting the dad to say something along the lines of "you're my son, I don't care if you're gay, I will always love you and be there for you, no matter what". Good story, but a reality that many of us have gone through. 😢
Yep 'apologise to the doctor, I'm disappointed you did that, but I'm proud to call you my son. I don't care you're gay, and these thoughts are ol' It makes me sad though, that his reaction is still common today
I never had any animosity toward gay people, but the churches my parents took me to sure did. It was considering exactly this perspective you expressed that led me to my current position on sexuality. Coming to realize this fact - and I was still in my teens - changed everything about how I would think from that moment on. I have a hard time now with people who choose to be ignorant.
@@OliveNLuv no, you are correct - they are not! I'm from the boomer generation AND was raised in a strict Christian home, but I never agreed with the anti-gay, or anti-Jew, or any other exclusionist ideas the church taught. Too many people allow themselves to be brainwashed instead of using their "god-given" brains to think logically. It's sad. But maybe it's understandable because "human nature," and all that. ..anyway, I'm sorry for what you went through. Hope things are good for you now. 💛
this was the most heart wrenching thing i’ve ever seen. as someone who’s actually ended up in the ER literally borderline of having a heart attack trying to hide the fact that i was dating a man at 19 and I hadn’t came out to anyone and the only way to lower my heart rate was crying and having a panic attack in front of my doctor and actually saying the words is just something that i don’t wish anyone to ever experience. may this kind of journey never happens to anyone and feel free to love and enjoy the company of a man or woman that makes you feel complete.
I sincerely hope you've had a better life since. I wasn't accepted by my parents. It has been a slippery slope since then, and a lifetime of difficulty. Its hard to go through most of your life without any kind of safety net, and it led me to put trust in people I shouldn't, as I was desperate to be accepted. I'm now physically and mentally unwell, and in difficult circumstances. I'm 42, but as "grown up" as I've had to be from an early age, I still feel like a child, and a disappointment. I know I'm not the only one who has been through hard times, but sometimes life throws more at certain people than they deserve or can reasonably take. I would like to say things are getting better, but with the rise of religious groups in the UK, I know many for whom it is worse than it ever was, and fear it will be a struggle to keep our rights in the not too distant future. Having said that, for the present, I wish you and all others that have struggled and do struggle all the very best, especially at this time of year. Take care.
3:10 does it mean you consider the script realistic? the son takes 'medicine' to make him sick and 'stop the thoughts' and all that. the doctors somehow manage to calm down his heart rate and suddenly he founds the courage to calmly tell his dad 'I'm gay'?? hard to believe. if he panicked that severely earlier it should take a lot more to finally confess to the person you are most frightened of. it probably raises his heart rate again to dangerous levels.
@@phily8093Stay strong man. You’ve been through quite a lot but the fact you made it this far makes you strong as hell. And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
@thewayofway1 thank you very much. So kind of you. I'm trying. That's all I can do. We all have our struggles. Wishing you well and all the good things.
parents should be teaching their kids. i would be mortified if i had kids and they were dating the same sex. It makes you question where you wronged as a parent. perhaps he was raised with no church.
If we’re not supposed to be gay - why the hell are we? Why does approx. 10-15% of the population fancy their own kind? I’m gay and I’ve lived with it for over thirty years. Never understood what it was all about back in the 1980s of course, but as I got older I began to realise my life was taking a notably different path to what’s considered, and what I consider, normal.
There have been studies on apparently gay rams, they did find a difference in I think it was the hypocampus? gland in the brain was larger in the "gay" rams than the others. The study was done if I remember right- by the USDA because of complaints by sheep ranchers that they had very expensive rams they wanted to use for breeding but they only wanted to mate with other rams and no interest in the females. Of course, this study's methods required killing the rams to dissect their brains, but they DID find that difference and that gland in the brain controls such things as sex responses. I have NO doubt this applies across humans, as well as other animals who have shown similar tendencies as the rams, so it's something born with.
Same here. I was 20 when I told my mom I wasn't straight straight and wanted to dress differently. She eventually came around and is still the only family I trust with the knowledge.
i only told my sister and my cousin that im bi, no one else. They would basically reject me. But aye great job telling your peeps that, you got some real balls for that.
I’ve been out since I was 19. I’m 47 now. I feel for this kid. I still remember the angst of hating myself and dating girls to try to be “normal”. I am normal. I am perfectly me!
Just wanted to say that you remind me of my uncle very much! He's in your age too and a few years back he still tried to make himself "normal". He is now much happier being married to a man and I am so happy for you too that you've realized that you're also absolutely normal! Have a wonderful day!
@andysstuff1 yes third millennium. The 1-1000 is the first. Then 1000-2000 is the second and this is the third. So yeah anyone of 24 years was born in a completely different millenium .
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 you're right, I send my apologies for my mishap regarding the previous reply. I pray you have it in your heart to forgive the severe lapse of judgement involved beforehand. Thank you for your time.
When I was 20 years old. I said I was gay. I was sent to see a psychiatrist and put on antipsychotic drugs and was told I was going to made normal. The drugs destroyed my mind and my soul. The psychiatrist was an evil sadistic, narcissistic sociopath.
People often confuse 'normal' with 'common'. Homosexuality is just as normal as heterosexuality but simply not as common. Studies have observed homosexuality in over 1500 animal species so far and homosexuality in people is as old as humanity itself.
And you are confusing normal with natural. From a biological perspective, homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality, but it is not as normal. Heterosexuality is nature's intended way, for the purpose of reproduction. Homosexuality, while not wrong, is a naturally occurring deviation.
The comparison with animals is a horrifying one to make and a very slippery slope. Animals also grape, murd3r, have s3x with juveniles etc so you don't want to go down this path using animals as a comparison. Also when animals have "gay" relations many do it for a dominance alpha male thing not for s3x and pleasure. Come up with a better argument
@@721rena The argument for generations has been that homosexuality is a crime against nature. It cannot be if same-sex couples are also found in the animal kingdom. Some studies have observed same-sex animal couples staying together for years and even raising offsprings.
@721rena the reason animals are used for comparison is bcz they represent everything that's purely natural. So if it's natural for animals, it is for humans too.
@@721renaHe is saying it is natural. And is as old as humanity. Don't try to twist his words into something they aren't. Many Christians say being gay isn't natural.
As someone who is gay this hurts. Who cares if your child is LGBTQ people need to chill. It’s not the end of the world and that dad needs to be humbled
@ But who are they to judge. Like fr if they ain’t bothering u about it leave em alone. Im gay and tend to not make it the pinnacle of my life of be a menace about it. One can say if someone “chooses” to be gay one can “choose” to be straight
@@riddlemered I'm not trying to sound harsh or judging, but this is just my opinion. Loving someone in the same sex as you is completely wrong, and is not how nature works. Everyone is free to do what they want, after all. I definitely agree that parents should be more understanding in their child's decision and not spook them out until they start having heart attacks or even die. Even if they don't like it, they should try to convince them to not go on with it WITHOUT going all out on them. But unfortunately, being homosexual doesn't work in this world especially in this kind of society that we have.
@@frosty_manXwhat is there to believe? The definition of homosexual is a person who is sexually and or romantically ATTRACTED to someone of the same sex. Has NOTHING to do with the act. I’m gay. Meaning men only make me sexually aroused. If I live to be 175 years old and die a virgin, am I still gay or do I even have a sexuality? It shouldn’t be that complicated to know “yes I am!” is the answer! What does or doesn’t turn you on is NOT a choice so therefore GOD MADE US THAT WAY! It isn’t difficult to get! What people mean is they are so far in denial about their own homosexuality they think everyone is suppose to feel that way!
@ Its alright, it sounds stupid now but it was because I was away from my cat for a while because i was at my brothers Birthday party and I was very worried about her not having anything to eat or drink. Turns out I was extremely wrong lol.
@@Liam-q709 No its NOT silly at all :) I had my panic attack from a "The action lab" video about the Shepard tone, a certain part of the video mixed with my bad mental health at the time came together to something VERY terrifying for me.
I'm an 85 year old gay man... and my advice to ANY young man or woman who has that kind of parent in their life is to RUN AWAY from them as soon as you possibly can. Find your REAL family... people who love you and support you.... NOT those who only want to own & control you. It doesn't matter what makes you "different" from what your parents, or anyone else, want. It's YOUR LIFE not theirs. Some parents have SERIOUS FLAWS in their own lives and are TOXIC to their children. If you let them, they WILL ruin your life too.
When will be learn and understand, people are born with their sexualality. Your sexualality is not something you can change, and it's not something you need to change. Except who are and remember everyone deserves love.
@@glacousxx Oh of course it isn't, because if you said so it's the truth; and all of the experiences of people who could actually know the answer to this, gay people, are a lie. You have no ideia of what you're talking about because you are not gay. I've always felt things for boys, and never felt anything for a girl, it's just the way I am
I'm a Christian. Yet, I find myself to be very gay. And, yes, you can be both. My mother says it's an issue, my father has no comment, my sister finds it weird, and I can't fathom it any other way- cause that's just who I've always been. I've often tried to pretend to be straight, not for others, but just to see for myself. It was ridiculous, obviously, to pretend to be straight cause it never worked. People dislike homosexuality. In the way the Bible sees it, I would too. But it's not like I chose this. Trust me, if I had the option of being a straight little angel, I would. But I'm not. I'm a person with a body. A body with desires, and those happen to be targeted towards men. Why? I'll never know... but when I meet God one day I hope to understand.
I am gay and Christian and at peace with it. I was lucky to find a church with an openly gay pastor. Currently in a different church which is also affirming. The Bible is misused and misunderstood at times. I believe God created you just as you are, and you are beautiful and beloved by God.
This feels so familiar. When I came out to my parents my Mum said I hope you’ve not been worrying about telling us, followed by “ I promise you, whatever it costs, we’ll get you better”
@@freddiepiras391 I feel for you. I also had to endure the seemingly endless visits to therapists and psychiatrists, along side the accusations of behaving like this just to upset and embarrass her… Even now the guilt and want to be ‘normal’ never truly goes away does it?
@dubster8086 it's not just that.... over the years...I got over it...I moved to a different country...did very well for myself. And I forgave my parents...just in the sense that I still speak to them but they know nothing about my private life.. and I want to keep it that way. But I just think sometimes.... there was no need to treat me the way they treated me when they found out. I was 18 and very scared...and just felt very betrayed by the accusations ... the violence and the abuse
@nekusakura6748 From the looks of it, maybe that kind doctor looked at taking him in. He was indeed very supportive, and the fact he seems to have taken time to hang out with the kid and treat him like a supportive dad tells me hopefully that was the case.
He hasn’t, because this is a dramatisation. It’s not a hospital, it a TV production studio. East Enders& Coronation Street are not real. It’s the sentiment that’s the point.
@@theoriginalskinseythat is the most stupid comment I’ve seen so far😅 so by your logic parents are supposed to agree with everything their child wants to do and be?
At 63 years of age I still battle this "Homosexual" thing and it's not easy. I was spiritually mutilated as a teenager and never got over it. Don't let this happen to your children. Being who you are isn't a bad thing. Religion made it that way. Some people allow these "so called" scriptures to dictate what kind of person you are vs the kind of person you need to be. I could go on and on but really, what good would it do? This over the top "Christian" view of homosexuality has really caused some serious problems for billions of people over the years. As long as there is religion, there's going to be problems. Peace.
I was very lucky. I found an accepting, embracing church right when I came out so did not suffer spiritually. I believe God created you as you are and it is very good. You are a treasure to God, beloved and beautiful. I have no doubt about this at all. No church can ever take that away from me because my relationship with God does not depend on any church or preacher anymore. It was a preacher who taught me this. An out gay preacher! Peace, brother. Happy to talk more if you wish.
The really sad thing is we are supposed to have progressed but I would never hold my husbands hand or kiss him in the street. Especially in London as it takes one idiot with a knife and it is all over!
Today I had the same tought...I'm a woman from Southern Europe. And yes I was thinking "there is a marriage law, adoption law, sexual orientation discrimination forbidden in the Constitution. But if i kiss another female in public there will be stares and muttering of comments. It's hard to accept myself really
There was a moment in which I HAD to open myself to my mother about my sexual orientation and it was devastating. We would constantly argue on the silliest of things, because she would not understand me at all. She had a specific concept going on in her head on what I was supposed to do and what I wanted to do - which where completely different things. She used to think I would go around and have sexual intercourses with whoever showed up at my door. Even old friends of mine were not allowed to go to my house, since she thought we always had second intentions. I could not go out with my friends, I could not stay out for long - at least not without a fight. However, as the time went by, she came to her senses and realized that there was actually nothing wrong happening, I was just the same old me, as I have always been. She said "This is not the life I expected you to live". It was not mine, either. It just happened and I am okay with it. It is who I am. Today we are in excellent terms and love each other, we even talk about the guys I date. We just needed patience and open minds to one another. I hope everyone can achieve peace, someday. We deserve it.
I had something a bit similar. My mom used to distrust me around girls because I might be lying to get more alone time with girls, but also distrust me around guys because I might not have been lying. So she was wary of me having friends altogether. That wasn't fun to go through when I was already introverted and socially awkward to begin with in early high school. It was hard enough making friends already!
My mom is in the beginning phase. I used to be so depressed from ms through high school, but now there’s a lot of representation I definitely understand myself. I started just being myself whether listening to girly pop music, or dressing with more jewelry. My mom started questioning if I was gay with disgust because she never saw me that way. I know she was devastated and disgusted, but I did it on purpose. I know eventually she’ll move on.
As a parent, I'm a mother, I wouldn't think of turning my back on my child. I've been there every step of the way through their questioning of their gender, I love and support them so much. It's not easy seeing them depressed some days but we get through it.
Mmm I can imagine that's sadly true tbh, I wish you all the best anyway. Most of my generation in my family are male and most of us are gay and everyone seems fine with it. My nan's sister's husband make an uncool remark once. He was quickly shut down by my nan. No-one messes with nan! 😉
In this day and age, we should know better and not have something like this happen. Some men like other men, and some women like other women. Get over it.
Ive been out for 20yrs, been with my boyfriend for 11yrs, living together for 10yrs, still get that awkwardness when I meet a new person who assumes I'm straight ! "So do you and your missus live locally?" "Well yes and no....we live locally but its a Mr not a Mrs" 😂😂
I'm bi and I know that I'll be kicked out if I come out, and where I live, being a part of the lgbtq community is usually frowned upon or people will make fun of you. I feel pressured to make the men liking side of me more apparent than the part of me that likes girls too. My first kiss was with a girl, and I want to tell people, but no one will accept that.
Well it’s a Resus. They all look pretty similar. Large rooms with space. I’m assuming you’ve never set foot in one ? They’re not meant to fit 10 cubicles in they’re not meant to fit any cubicles, it for critically ill patients who need emergency medicine not your average “I’ve broken my arm”
This is kind of similar to me at the moment. I know I'm bisexual and have deliberately avoided coming out to my dad or bringing up the idea of ever going out with a guy because of him being so homophobic. Its not that he 'doesn't like' people who go out with people of the same sex -- but rather he refuses to contemplate their existence. Its saddening. I've told my friends I'm bi and they're otally supportive. My mum probably wouldn't mind if I told her, my sister is super chill, but its just my dad and his super traditional family. Problem is I financially rely on him at the moment as I go through uni, and am nervous he'd do something like cut my allowance if I were to 'come out'. Can't wait until I'm independent!
Good Luck when you become independent. Hopefully you find someone who loves you for you and doesn't dismiss your Bisexual Identity (Bi Erasure is a massive problem with society).
The Dad's reaction is far more common than I think most people today realize. It's not always a happy ending....yet. But we escape the biological families who reject us, and find a whole new family and community who accept and elevate us. The child's pain doesn't always totally vanish, but the bigoted parents lose far more than the child in the end.
As a 21 years old man struggling these thoughts about my same sex friends, people and etc for 8 years and even more that I didn't know about them, I can understand him. I'm not still out to my parents or even my friends and imagining myself in his position, with a homophobic society, homophobic parents, friends, teachers and more, reminded me again that I still can't have a boyfriend, kiss him, hold his hand while we're walking down the street, introducing him to my family and friends. His suffocation at the first moments is a similar thing that I feel in my throat everyday. Hope we all be humans and respect eachother as humans. It even gets harder when you've been struggling with anxiety and stress and OCD for more than 6 years
While the entire clip was uncomfortable and heartbreaking, what got me crying was the kid constantly apologizing to the doctors and blaming himself. I had a feeling i knew why, and it hurts. When a parent makes you feel like a burden, all you ever feel like doing is apologizing for existing. I know that feeling all too well. I'm 42 and still find myself apologizing a lot, even for things that aren't my fault. Thanks, mom...
Let's spare a moment to recognise all the brilliant work that British dramas and soaps have done over the past 30 years to positively change attitudes towards LGBT people.
its nearly 2025 why 50 years after Stone wall is this still a hard road to travel and such a rough rough way to go anyway thanks to the Beeb for bringing this up again because some actual youngster somewhere just realised he is not the only one after seeing these actors
@@MONKEYDZETS --- Why Pride? Being discriminated against in housing and employment, being called an "abomination" in the church you grew up in, denied militarily serving your country openly prior to 2011, being gay bashed on the street for holding the hand of someone you love--- and STILL standing up to the bigots by refusing to continue to lie? By living your life openly and honestly? THAT takes more courage than most will ever know.
That turn was heart breaking 😢 the son really thought his dad was on his side. The worst thing that you can as a parent is killing your kids self-esteem then you will be become their number one enemy.
This sort of happened to me. I was raised in a fundamentalist home in the 80s. I ended up so freaked out about my sexuality I developed conversion disorder, which expressed as pseudoseizures. I was in the hospital for almost a day before the neurologist on call showed up to diagnose me, sleeping in because he thought it was a minor drug overdose and I could do with learning a lesson I guess? Every hour or so the anti-seizure medicine would wear off enough to start another seizure and they would administer more. The hospital didn't charge us a thing because they were worried my parents would sue them over the doctor's callousness, with the nurses saying they would testify against him. God that was embarrassing to happen, but especially as a way for a teenager to come out to his fundie parents.
I can understand how he felt and even I tried to hide my sexuality but it was the pain that made me feel worse about myself till I dared to emit it for the first time back in 2018 at Dublin Airport to my family. So I couldn't be any happier for him to emit that sort of a thing to his Dad.
Why is it. That the people we don't fancy or sleep with are the ones who are the biggest problems. SOCIETY and Expectations are the reason so many of us die by our own hands. Those thumpers who CLAIM to be doing GODS work is in for a very rude awakening.
I'm so tired of god fearing nutjobs telling people what to do and then playing the victim. Besides, you know damn well that Jesus would never treat anyone like this.
Genuinely surprised they knew about the whole blow into the syringe technique. That's a vagal maneuver used to try to reduce the heart rate. Although I would have gone right to medication (antidote for overdose or something to slow the heart) and possibly shocking him to reset the heart (sorry, paramedic here).
This is still happening today . What parent's seem to forget is that you both made your kids . So don't put the blame on them . Instead embrace them and love them .
I'm terrified of hospital dramas, I literally can't cope with them - BUT this is British drama, writing and performance at its best. Big props to the entire cast and crew, and thank you BBC for making such captivating and moving content for global audiences.
my father told me that i ruined his dream for him which was for me to have a wife and have kids so he can be a grandfather. i told him that he still can cuz i do want a family just with a man. and he was very disgusted. we dont talk anymore i dont waste my time on someone still "processing" more then 10 years later. Men have alot of issues and putting pressure on other men is one of them. its time we stop giving these kinds of men attention. we dont need their validation or anything. live your lives guys . their loss
It was hard for me to come out to my parents as gay but they never gave up hope that I would become a heterosexual. Praise Jesus their prayers were answered, and now I’m thriving as a transsexual! Straight is great!🙏🏳️⚧️🩷
This was alternately like a punch in the gut, and then a relief... but still A GUT-PUNCH. I have a gay child, and a non gender-conforming grandchild from another child. Whomever may be feeling more-emboldened to spew ignorance and hate (due to some recent political events in various countries), know this: You're outnumbered; and we fight.
Please please please keep them protected. I'm hoping it's just a spur of the moment thing but this latest electoral vote has made the wrong group feel emboldened. Here in indiana klan posters have been showing up and I honestly sometimes don't even want to leave my house out of fear but I know where I am safe and make sure that they do as well.
@@ronaldmorris1462 I appreciate and relate-to your counsel. We live in a strange and volatile era - which way will the path lead? Through a dark forest, perhaps. But there's always light.
Thank you. Sometimes family is is all that matters, what other people think only has as much weight as your insecurities about the people you care about the most, and if you know they're with you, you feel strong enough to take on whatever the world throws at you.
Thank you for being a true father (or mother, if I guessed wrongly) and giving your child and grandchild the support, love, and respect they deserve. Greetings and respect from a former foster, now de-facto, dad.
A similar circumstance happened to me when I was 22 yrs old in 1964 . I had a panic attack at the movies but managed to sit it out . Then when I got home I had a very irregular heart beat . My fear was the discrimination of being gay was quite serious in those days . I had five older very straight older brothers . Fortunately my father and mother were very tolerant of different sexualities . They had parties employing a female impersonator ( Noel McKay) and I should have realised then I-only 13 years old then- that I could have come out to them at a much younger age My oldest brother was a medical student then and through the cardiologist who checked me over ( he asked me what was bothering me to get such a reaction which I bravely revealed to him) he told my parents. To my delight Mum replied “well, Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vince were great men in history, and mother in particular said that Oscar Wilde was one of the best in the literary arts etc . She was a great one for reciting poetry, being an avid reader. And Dad said during the Wars and in World War 2 homosexuality was common even in the armed forces in America where male bonding was common and also gave these men courage to be serve in the forces. You can imagine the relief I felt . Only 1 of my brothers guessed I was gay but he thought nothing of it and said just get in with your life . These are the best years of your life and make the most of them, especially those years at school. But be sensible and take care . So I still had to suppress my feelings but at least felt at ease thinking things could get better. Having experienced those decades from the 50’s in looking back makes me appreciate all the more my journey was such I can still sit back and smell the roses. My one disappointment was I never had a romantic relationship ( I’m a hopeless romantic at heart really) although a few long term relationships.
my kids four sons!! know how we (me and my wife think) be yourself. i rather have em happy with a man than unhappy with a lady. whatever happens they got our blessing!
A parent's job isn't to judge their children or to tell them what they are, but to love them unconditionally and guide them in life, accepting that they are who and what they are without prejudice or ignorance. Even if they don't understand and it goes against what they've thought or believed up to this point, they have an absolute obligation to accept their children. This was definitely a failure on the father's part and not the child's.
It pisses me off when some people are so stuck in their close minded, bigoted way of thinking! God made us all in his image & also made us who we are. People need to get off their soapbox & accept everyone! Gay, straight, black, white, brown or whatever else. No one has the right to judge anyone but themselves! I am bi-sexual by the way, and proud of it!
Agreed. I am so sick and tired of hearing self-confessed Christians try to push their weird moral dogmas on me. Follow your own damn rules and let me follow what is right for me. Personally, I think Christianity has been so co-opted and perverted by power structures over the centuries that they've ripped the heart of Jesus right out.
When the father said, "Jimmy, you dont need therapy" Me: OMG WE HAVE A SUPPORTIVE FATHER, WAHOO 😮😄 When the father said, "You are strong enough to make them go away on their own" Me: 😶 *crickets*
never once saw this show, don't know these characters at all, no background. but this small scene alone made me tear up for the kid, the nurse, the doctor, ahhhh my heart
Homophobia is simply hating people who society and religion believe are dispicable .. .It amazes me how they weaponize God to preach there gospel of intolerance . Stand up to the haters in your community and make it known that the time has come that they can no longer stand behind the idols of fear and oppression ....
This is clearly a moving acting moment but unfortunately there are fathers and families who can't understand how deeply their actions or words could hurt a gay guy. Some guys manage to keep themselves strong, some others could die inside. I quit a 4 years relationship for these reasons and still I'm incapable of seeing myself into a stable relation again. Scars will never fade away from me.
Yeah my dad threw me out at Barely 17. I have nothing to do with my entire family since I came out of the closet, because they wanted nothing to do with me. That was 20 years ago. At this point they have reached out here and there to me, however being thrown out at 17 with no warning, no clothes, not even my backpack or school supplies, which my mother is "rich" and before I came out to her she would give me 1000's of dollars a month, she cut me off when she found out I was gay, and my dad deliberately waited until I ran out of money in my bank account before throwing me out, which caused me to be homeless immediately and lasted for a few years. I had to drop out of high school to survive, when I had straight A's, I was being asked by Ivy League colleges to attend/apply them due to my sat score and I assume grades, I had an internship at the Whitehouse because I scored in the top 5-10% on my SATs that would have started after I graduated and before I started going to University (during the summer), which I lost due to dropping out of high school and not graduating on time, etc, I ended up graduating a year later then I was supposed to, and my gpa dropped from a 3.9 to a 3.4 because I didn't care at that point about it anymore and I didn't study to pass my last few classes with A's, hell I didn't even study at all, I got B's and C's in the last few credits I needed to graduate from just what I already knew. Ironic thing is I had college credits before I graduated high school from being in the IB programs. Anyways I cannot forgive them now, nor do I want ANYTHING to do with them. I have built my life from the ground up, I love my life, I love what I have built for myself, and I do not have room for them to attend my life, or for them to be apart of my life at any point in the future. Yes im still angry at them, but not for throwing me out, but for what they potentially stole, or took from me by throwing me out. I worked very hard as a kid to get to where I was going, and I worked very hard to make them proud of me, maybe over compensating for the fact I was gay, and hoping I would be enough for them to accept me. Anyways I can't forgive them for what they potentially took from me as a child, and the future I was building for myself then.
I can relate to this so much. I was in the hospital for two weeks when I got sick from an incurable virus because people who I had considered as my second family found about my secret and my will to continue to be here was at an all time low. I’ve lost people but everyday is a challenge. Just got to make it one day at a time
4:24 He has the same name as me. As a trans person hearing someone say you’re gonna be alright to someone with my name was so comforting, it felt like it was directed to me in a way. Especially with a family who don’t really accept me for who I actually am.
It is not the son's responsibility to find the 'courage' to open up to his father; it is his father's responsibility to harbor the love and compassion to accept his child.
As long as someone’s to blame. They both need help.
Exactly. If parents are doing their job correctly by making their children grow up feeling comfortable to express their feelings and emotions openly to their parents there would be no fear.
There’s responsibility on both sides. You can’t lay everything on one person.
@@angemaidment5640 What responsibility does the son have? &, yes, if we're talking about sons & fathers, the sole responsibility for loving his son unconditionally is the father's.
@@raynarks The son needs help in overcoming his father's bigotry! Nothing more. The father needs help in becoming a good human being & loving his son unconditionally.
The moment he wiped his tears after realising his dad was not accepting him, I broke down to tears because that's a genuine reaction right there. Just when he thought his dad was okay with him being himself
Never came out to my parents, but man than was so real and somehow after watching this that's exactly how I would react to my parents rejecting me
@@Britishladstuff I never did either & the sad irony is that they'd have been understanding and loving. It's clear to me, however, that they "knew" & simply ignored it. The fallout for me is that I never had a monogamous relationship until after they died.
You will never be normal, so like ofc
I'm at a phase where idek if I'm straight or bi Its frustrating 😭
@@thatonebadasslighter Don't rush it. Just like I previously told a 14 yo above, take your time, find who you are. There's no rush. Find comfort in your own skin and friends who care about you. Your journey is your journey and a road to discovery is at your discretion.
As a parent your one job is to love your child unconditionally. Through everything.
We have a lot more jobs than unconditional love. We also have the jobs that include tough love, like controlling their diet, making them do their homework and chores, helping them learn responsibility and all that good stuff.
@@LadyIarConnacht Don't forget to let them explore and find themselves. Parents can only guide to some degree.
@@LadyIarConnacht Yeah, but remember that educating is not the same that controlling their lives. They're not marionettes and sexuality is a different topic.
@@LadyIarConnachtThe most important job is love. All of the other responsibilities don’t amount to much without love. I don’t understand why or how anyone could or would even want to form an argument against that basic principle. It’s love that should compel the other jobs in the first place. And if it doesn’t, a parent AND child will find out why it was more necessary sooner or later.
In a perfect world.
I had a genuine thought for a milisecond that he was gonna be one of those misunderstood Dads whom their kids thought the wrong things of... then it happened...
I thiught his dad wouldn't care for a moment then untill he sed what he sed should be supportive
me too 😢
More bbc propaganda
Me too. It's hard enough to battle societies stigma's but to have to battle the one who created you, supposed to protect and love you .....
In many cases, the unfortunate reality is that these parents aren't misunderstood, and are just terrible people. Sure, maybe in time they come around. I've seen many cases where that happened too - child comes out as gay, parents don't want to accept and attempt to distance themselves, child says that's fine, don't talk to me until you can learn to accept me for who I am, and then, eventually, they do, and everything turns out okay.
But the point to be taken away from this episode is that, even if your parents refuse to accept it and be there for you, there are plenty of people who are supportive, and the simple fact of the matter is these feelings are normal; there's nothing wrong with it, and you shouldn't have change, and you certainly shouldn't harm yourself trying to. Everybody deserves happiness and kindness.
Jeez-us, made me cry. I'm 70 and can understand the angst of the young man. It was rough in the 60's and 70's. I am so lucky to have had a loving and accepting Mom and Dad. I still battled self-hatred and self-loathing until I was in my 50's. I wear gay themed T-Shirts every day, everywhere I go, so that if a young person sees me, hopefully they can say, "If that old man can make it, so can I".
Beautiful 😍, thank you for the comment 🙏☺️
Still wrong
@@kiimmaritz2827what's wrong lmao
Well done you !
It takes a lot of courage to tell anyone who you are, but it shouldn't need to be that way. Some can never say it as they fear everyone will shun them or point the finger of abuse. It is nobody's fault how we are born, wired to be gay or bi instead of the majority heterosexual. Hopefully, into the future there will be no more hatred and young people can just be who they are, and be happy. I do see it happening slowly, but there are still plenty of bigoted folk about. Why can't they just leave others alone and get on with their own lives?
@@kiimmaritz2827 must be miserable thinking like this
Brings back memories. I was so terrified of my father finding out I was gay when I was 13 that my skin broke out in huge, raw patches -- on my arms, behind my ears, on my back, on my legs - and nothing would fix it. I was finally treated with high-power steroids, which got the patches to go away -- so I developed an autoimmune disease.
When I finally left home and got away from my father, the disease went away. Imagine that.
Gay
Wow. Your example explains everything about how much we can suffer only by thinking something that terrifies us.
Thanks for sharing your story, it's important to learn and not repeat the same mistakes people made with us.
We need to let people know (and raise young people to know) that they're safe with us and that we will love them no matter what. That way, they won't suffer as we did 💜
Wow. That’s hell of interesting. An entire Illness vanished because you got out a toxic environment.
I and my brothers were terrified of our father too and none of us were even gay, when we left the house for good asap, we never saw him again, he had 40+ years to consider what he had done and when he passed away, we thought good riddance. Some of his failures were likely due to him growing up in extreme poverty during the war though and never getting a fair break himself, he wanted us to not have the same luck that he did not get but it worked out alright in the end. One of my kids may or might not be gay, but that is for them to find out.
@@johnjakson444But for you to create a welcoming place by you making affirmations that gay is ok and I love my kids regardless. If you let them know where they won't know where you stand; you are letting what was once a baby, struggle to define themselves, all alone in isolation. No one there for them, in regard to a fundamental aspect about themselves. You will also struggle to know them. There's lots of suicidal thoughts in an isolated person. Too many are successful.
I spent all my 20's trying to be 'normal' ie. heterosexual, but finally came out in my early 30's and accepted my 'normal' sexuality was homosexuality. I finally found my life partner when I was 50 and we have been together now for almost 29years with many more expected to come. My only regret was the wasted 10 years trying not to be myself, but it at least taught me a lot about myself.
What's normal. I'm glad to hear you are being you.Screw what others think it's YOUR LIFE not anyone else's
Wow. I’m gay accepted myself at 11. I think I was depressed and hated myself for a long time, and didn’t really love myself until this year at 19. I was so worried for my safety as a kid because my family might’ve kicked me out. Now I’m bigger and taller than all my straight older brothers so their perceptions of being gay have definitely shattered.
This really puts things into perspective though because I knew up I was gay very young, and the self acceptance journey started very young probably due to representation like Love, Simon
I wasted more than 16 years
@@infinity-gs4mq Not a waste if you learned something . Try to remember we go through things on a journeys to get to our destiny. some folks go years before they find out the reason why and some never find the reason .
@@nightstringers TRUE
I am a straight man but I also consider myself an ally to the LGBT+ community, I am sickened that there is still homophobia in our world and I can't wait for the day when we can overcome such ignorance and non tolerance of those who wish to live their lives the way want to without fearing the repercussions.
Thanks for being our ally!
Thanks for your allyship! You are a diamond
Thank you. I wish my dad was an ally. He forced me to get married to a woman against my will. I hate them. Even now they do not allow me into their house
Thank you! :)
Sadly homophobia and ignorance will never truly go away. All we can do is stand up to it whenever it rears its ugly head. It’s everyone’s responsibility.
he will turn 18, leave and never look back. that’s what most of us did, and we’re happier now.
it is important to understand that your family is made up of just people… literally just people. and if you feel unsupported, detach yourself from that dynamic. there’s plenty of others out there who will love & cherish you.
And then when the parent is old and in need of help, THEN will they try to reach out
And one day, that father is going to find himself alone, in a nursing home, with no one coming to visit him -- and the son, having gone no contact years earlier, won't have anything to do with him -- and that father think about being alone, with no one coming to visit him;
and it will be no one's fault but the father.
and then they ask for us back like they expect us to love them or smth 💀💀
It’s a T.V show guys.. !
🤦♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's a tv show... but this actually happened to me @@stihlextreme9357
My parents haven't yet accepted my sexuality, and it's been more than 10 years since I told them. If you're not 100% sure they'll accept you, don't tell them anything until you have fully economic stability.
100% truth!
This is sadly true. And it doesn't matter if you could be easily labeled as gay by the way you act or if you are the straight-prototype. The only stable relationship I never had ended up due to my family's context and nothing will ever be the same.
@@carlotaglia absolutely. I've ever been visibly gay and my parents have never said anything about it. Neither has my therapist suspected they would react so badly. But they did and I couldn't see it coming. I shouldn't have come out to them.
thats why i'm either never telling them or telling them when i move out
Yes, and when you are economically stable you set the rules you live by.
Until I was 11 years old, being gay was a crime in the UK. Then, later, the AIDS virus set the progress towards acceptance back years. I grew up confused, scared, I had girlfriends, which wasn't fair on them, with hindsight. I denied the truth, even to myself. I never dared tell my parents. I was close to my grandfather, but I feared it would break his heart if I came out.
I never had a proper relationship because other men were just as scared as me.
Time this ended. Too many generations have been scarred by homophobia
It's a damn tragedy what our people have been put through, and you know, they pick on us because we are a minority, because we are different from the majority. We must all organize and find ways to build community. When we are together we are stronger. Scree all the religious bigots and immoral politicians who use us for their own power games.
Sadly in conservative US I had a similar experience- but for me it was in the 2000’s. Lost my family, lost a lot.
As I started to accept myself, monkey pox dehumanized me in the eyes of my community. Fortunately the poor woman I married was an angel and is still my best friend. I hope that stories like ours become less and less
@chrisp2929 sorry to hear. What happened with monkey pox? I'm afraid I know virtually nothing about that
@ in the US it was used to paint queer men as promiscuous and less than. Sinful. It was the first Trump administration. Now we get the second. I’m scared for my life here in rural America
AIDS was a super scare and even though it's awful that it harmed so many people, it was probably good to be scared about it. Being scared probably saved a lot of lives. I'm glad you never caught it and that you are still with us today. PS - this is an improper use of the word homophobia. Homophobia is an overreaction to gay people due to self-hatred and a fear that you yourself are gay. Also some people were terrified for their kids to be gay, catch AIDS and die. That happened to my cousin. We were scared for him - he moved to San Francisco, caught AIDS and died. It was not "homophobia" that killed him.
I love these doctors! They protected the son from his dad and didn't even hesitate to kick him out. 👏👏👏 That is some quality care.
Sadly, that's television drama but would not be the reality.
@@GrumpyL5 Actually I could see some doctors getting mad themselves, personally I would even if I had to be professional I'd at least remind him he was gonna leave like the other doctor did.
_'His body won't like his heart beating so fast'_
I like how they talk to all non-medical staff as if they're toddlers.
People are just that stupid lol
he's been saying "i don't understand" for the last 5 bloody minutes when given reasonably simple explanations. time to bust out the toddlerspeak
lBBC propoganda not belivable who would of thunk
Heart wrenching twist. Was expecting the dad to say something along the lines of "you're my son, I don't care if you're gay, I will always love you and be there for you, no matter what". Good story, but a reality that many of us have gone through. 😢
Yep 'apologise to the doctor, I'm disappointed you did that, but I'm proud to call you my son. I don't care you're gay, and these thoughts are ol'
It makes me sad though, that his reaction is still common today
Yeah, this is a TV show for a reason 😂
This show wanted Realism not your drug induced fantasy 😘
It's realistic because unfortunately not all parents are accepting of their LGBT children. It's not always a happy ending.
@@messyangel1169 Their "drug induced fantasy" is what normal human behaviour should be, as opposed to heartless, hateful bigotry. 😘
Imagine people arguing that sexuality is a choice. Why would you consciously chose to put yourself through this? It's stupid.
My mom doesn't believe I was born this way. It's ridiculous. I know she's of the Boomer generation, but not all Boomers are bigots like her!!!
I never had any animosity toward gay people, but the churches my parents took me to sure did. It was considering exactly this perspective you expressed that led me to my current position on sexuality. Coming to realize this fact - and I was still in my teens - changed everything about how I would think from that moment on. I have a hard time now with people who choose to be ignorant.
@@OliveNLuv no, you are correct - they are not! I'm from the boomer generation AND was raised in a strict Christian home, but I never agreed with the anti-gay, or anti-Jew, or any other exclusionist ideas the church taught. Too many people allow themselves to be brainwashed instead of using their "god-given" brains to think logically. It's sad. But maybe it's understandable because "human nature," and all that. ..anyway, I'm sorry for what you went through. Hope things are good for you now. 💛
@zanelunn6216 The Only real Choice a Queer person has is whether or not they want to be open about their sexual identity.
@@OliveNLuvshe wants people to think so I would bet, but she sees it as conservative not bgoted
this was the most heart wrenching thing i’ve ever seen. as someone who’s actually ended up in the ER literally borderline of having a heart attack trying to hide the fact that i was dating a man at 19 and I hadn’t came out to anyone and the only way to lower my heart rate was crying and having a panic attack in front of my doctor and actually saying the words is just something that i don’t wish anyone to ever experience.
may this kind of journey never happens to anyone and feel free to love and enjoy the company of a man or woman that makes you feel complete.
I sincerely hope you've had a better life since. I wasn't accepted by my parents. It has been a slippery slope since then, and a lifetime of difficulty. Its hard to go through most of your life without any kind of safety net, and it led me to put trust in people I shouldn't, as I was desperate to be accepted. I'm now physically and mentally unwell, and in difficult circumstances. I'm 42, but as "grown up" as I've had to be from an early age, I still feel like a child, and a disappointment. I know I'm not the only one who has been through hard times, but sometimes life throws more at certain people than they deserve or can reasonably take. I would like to say things are getting better, but with the rise of religious groups in the UK, I know many for whom it is worse than it ever was, and fear it will be a struggle to keep our rights in the not too distant future. Having said that, for the present, I wish you and all others that have struggled and do struggle all the very best, especially at this time of year. Take care.
3:10 does it mean you consider the script realistic? the son takes 'medicine' to make him sick and 'stop the thoughts' and all that. the doctors somehow manage to calm down his heart rate and suddenly he founds the courage to calmly tell his dad 'I'm gay'?? hard to believe. if he panicked that severely earlier it should take a lot more to finally confess to the person you are most frightened of. it probably raises his heart rate again to dangerous levels.
@@phily8093Stay strong man. You’ve been through quite a lot but the fact you made it this far makes you strong as hell. And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
@thewayofway1 thank you very much. So kind of you. I'm trying. That's all I can do. We all have our struggles. Wishing you well and all the good things.
parents should be teaching their kids. i would be mortified if i had kids and they were dating the same sex. It makes you question where you wronged as a parent. perhaps he was raised with no church.
If we’re not supposed to be gay - why the hell are we? Why does approx. 10-15% of the population fancy their own kind? I’m gay and I’ve lived with it for over thirty years. Never understood what it was all about back in the 1980s of course, but as I got older I began to realise my life was taking a notably different path to what’s considered, and what I consider, normal.
Because straight people have gay babies. Some families have gay genes.
We're here, always have been. We're supposed to be here. If we weren't supposed to be here, we wouldn't keep being born into this world
I agree completely
Judging by the amount of gay people around, I'm pretty sure it's over 20%. Don't listen to those nonsense surveys
There have been studies on apparently gay rams, they did find a difference in I think it was the hypocampus? gland in the brain was larger in the "gay" rams than the others. The study was done if I remember right- by the USDA because of complaints by sheep ranchers that they had very expensive rams they wanted to use for breeding but they only wanted to mate with other rams and no interest in the females.
Of course, this study's methods required killing the rams to dissect their brains, but they DID find that difference and that gland in the brain controls such things as sex responses.
I have NO doubt this applies across humans, as well as other animals who have shown similar tendencies as the rams, so it's something born with.
I came out as Bisexual at 22. At 76, I am STILL coming out, and some of my family are still finding that a problem! 😂
Wow.. interesting to read, not something I'd ever really thought of before.
No way some of your family is that stubborn, crazy
@@Mandeepsays Do you at least have a special someone to share your life with?
Sorry if that comes off as prying.
Same here. I was 20 when I told my mom I wasn't straight straight and wanted to dress differently. She eventually came around and is still the only family I trust with the knowledge.
i only told my sister and my cousin that im bi, no one else. They would basically reject me. But aye great job telling your peeps that, you got some real balls for that.
I cant believe we still needs scenes like this in dramas. Accept your kids for who they are.
I’ve been out since I was 19. I’m 47 now. I feel for this kid. I still remember the angst of hating myself and dating girls to try to be “normal”. I am normal. I am perfectly me!
Just wanted to say that you remind me of my uncle very much! He's in your age too and a few years back he still tried to make himself "normal". He is now much happier being married to a man and I am so happy for you too that you've realized that you're also absolutely normal! Have a wonderful day!
no ur not
Yes he is mate, being gay is normal, being straight is normal, get with the times my friend u will feel so much happier @@JakIsNotTired
So are pedos and rapists normal too?
@@JakIsNotTired happy 12th birthday
you know its so sad that this still needs to happen in the third millennium.
...third?
@andysstuff1 yes third millennium. The 1-1000 is the first. Then 1000-2000 is the second and this is the third. So yeah anyone of 24 years was born in a completely different millenium .
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 you're right, I send my apologies for my mishap regarding the previous reply. I pray you have it in your heart to forgive the severe lapse of judgement involved beforehand. Thank you for your time.
@andysstuff1 dude their ant no problem. Just giving information. This is something I use to tease millennials. Have a great day
I told my mum about being gay. If they asked me in the hospital I'd tell them@andysstuff1
I came out as gay to my parents family and friends in 2018 it was the best decision I made and now I’ve got the best boyfriend in the world
I came out in the early '70s - and never regretted it.
Thats so adorable, I am happy for u 😊
When I was 20 years old. I said I was gay. I was sent to see a psychiatrist and put on antipsychotic drugs and was told I was going to made normal. The drugs destroyed my mind and my soul. The psychiatrist was an evil sadistic, narcissistic sociopath.
2004 now happily married
@@lyno1980 ig that's u and ur partner in ur pfp? Y'all look so good together 🥰♥️
the british always make serious films about serious topics like these i love it
❤ yup
We can say lots of things of this clip but... what an extraordinary group of actors, especially the kid!
People often confuse 'normal' with 'common'. Homosexuality is just as normal as heterosexuality but simply not as common. Studies have observed homosexuality in over 1500 animal species so far and homosexuality in people is as old as humanity itself.
And you are confusing normal with natural. From a biological perspective, homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality, but it is not as normal. Heterosexuality is nature's intended way, for the purpose of reproduction. Homosexuality, while not wrong, is a naturally occurring deviation.
The comparison with animals is a horrifying one to make and a very slippery slope. Animals also grape, murd3r, have s3x with juveniles etc so you don't want to go down this path using animals as a comparison.
Also when animals have "gay" relations many do it for a dominance alpha male thing not for s3x and pleasure. Come up with a better argument
@@721rena The argument for generations has been that homosexuality is a crime against nature. It cannot be if same-sex couples are also found in the animal kingdom. Some studies have observed same-sex animal couples staying together for years and even raising offsprings.
@721rena the reason animals are used for comparison is bcz they represent everything that's purely natural. So if it's natural for animals, it is for humans too.
@@721renaHe is saying it is natural. And is as old as humanity. Don't try to twist his words into something they aren't. Many Christians say being gay isn't natural.
As someone who is gay this hurts. Who cares if your child is LGBTQ people need to chill. It’s not the end of the world and that dad needs to be humbled
Not really not everyone believes it is right
@ But who are they to judge. Like fr if they ain’t bothering u about it leave em alone. Im gay and tend to not make it the pinnacle of my life of be a menace about it. One can say if someone “chooses” to be gay one can “choose” to be straight
@@riddlemered I'm not trying to sound harsh or judging, but this is just my opinion. Loving someone in the same sex as you is completely wrong, and is not how nature works. Everyone is free to do what they want, after all. I definitely agree that parents should be more understanding in their child's decision and not spook them out until they start having heart attacks or even die. Even if they don't like it, they should try to convince them to not go on with it WITHOUT going all out on them. But unfortunately, being homosexual doesn't work in this world especially in this kind of society that we have.
It’s the end of the world. People want normal children
@@frosty_manXwhat is there to believe? The definition of homosexual is a person who is sexually and or romantically ATTRACTED to someone of the same sex. Has NOTHING to do with the act. I’m gay. Meaning men only make me sexually aroused. If I live to be 175 years old and die a virgin, am I still gay or do I even have a sexuality? It shouldn’t be that complicated to know “yes I am!” is the answer! What does or doesn’t turn you on is NOT a choice so therefore GOD MADE US THAT WAY! It isn’t difficult to get! What people mean is they are so far in denial about their own homosexuality they think everyone is suppose to feel that way!
I'm not gay, but DAYUM this is the MOST detailed representation of a panic attack I can imagine. Really good for awareness.
I had a panic attack once, I generally though i was going to die.
@@Liam-q709 What is it from if you dont mind saying?
@ Its alright, it sounds stupid now but it was because I was away from my cat for a while because i was at my brothers Birthday party and I was very worried about her not having anything to eat or drink. Turns out I was extremely wrong lol.
@@Liam-q709 No its NOT silly at all :) I had my panic attack from a "The action lab" video about the Shepard tone, a certain part of the video mixed with my bad mental health at the time came together to something VERY terrifying for me.
I'm an 85 year old gay man... and my advice to ANY young man or woman who has that kind of parent in their life is to RUN AWAY from them as soon as you possibly can.
Find your REAL family... people who love you and support you.... NOT those who only want to own & control you.
It doesn't matter what makes you "different" from what your parents, or anyone else, want.
It's YOUR LIFE not theirs. Some parents have SERIOUS FLAWS in their own lives and are TOXIC to their children. If you let them, they WILL ruin your life too.
No 85 yr old man will advice young ppl to Run away from home... You sound like a teenager
As the saying goes, “All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve children.”
When will be learn and understand, people are born with their sexualality. Your sexualality is not something you can change, and it's not something you need to change. Except who are and remember everyone deserves love.
So true.....❤
That's not true .
@@glacousxx Oh it's not? Says who? Of course it's true. That is a scientific fact, and there is nothing to argue about. You are trolling.
@@glacousxx Oh of course it isn't, because if you said so it's the truth; and all of the experiences of people who could actually know the answer to this, gay people, are a lie.
You have no ideia of what you're talking about because you are not gay. I've always felt things for boys, and never felt anything for a girl, it's just the way I am
@@glacousxxAs a gay man I confirm that this is true.
I'm a Christian. Yet, I find myself to be very gay. And, yes, you can be both. My mother says it's an issue, my father has no comment, my sister finds it weird, and I can't fathom it any other way- cause that's just who I've always been. I've often tried to pretend to be straight, not for others, but just to see for myself. It was ridiculous, obviously, to pretend to be straight cause it never worked. People dislike homosexuality. In the way the Bible sees it, I would too. But it's not like I chose this. Trust me, if I had the option of being a straight little angel, I would. But I'm not. I'm a person with a body. A body with desires, and those happen to be targeted towards men. Why? I'll never know... but when I meet God one day I hope to understand.
Well some people have a desire to kill and they dont😂 life isn't about doing what you feel buddy
@@basedsigmagigachad desire to kill doesnt give you a boner, why should he not have the option to love? you make no sense
Everything you said resonates with my thoughts and life too. I hope we always remain strong as we pave our way in this life
@@diplomacy9352 uh with me or the original comment
I am gay and Christian and at peace with it. I was lucky to find a church with an openly gay pastor. Currently in a different church which is also affirming. The Bible is misused and misunderstood at times. I believe God created you just as you are, and you are beautiful and beloved by God.
This feels so familiar. When I came out to my parents my Mum said I hope you’ve not been worrying about telling us, followed by “ I promise you, whatever it costs, we’ll get you better”
Same here...followed by 2 years if psychological abuse
@@freddiepiras391 I feel for you. I also had to endure the seemingly endless visits to therapists and psychiatrists, along side the accusations of behaving like this just to upset and embarrass her… Even now the guilt and want to be ‘normal’ never truly goes away does it?
@dubster8086 it's not just that.... over the years...I got over it...I moved to a different country...did very well for myself. And I forgave my parents...just in the sense that I still speak to them but they know nothing about my private life.. and I want to keep it that way. But I just think sometimes.... there was no need to treat me the way they treated me when they found out. I was 18 and very scared...and just felt very betrayed by the accusations ... the violence and the abuse
I went through several rounds of conversion therapy. I also feel it. Sending my best
bro, for a second i was like "the dad is gonna accept him??? lets goo"
and then for a second later i found out it was the opposite
Hopefully he’s got other family members he can stay with
@@SStealthbomb That or he went to supportive Foster parents.
@nekusakura6748 From the looks of it, maybe that kind doctor looked at taking him in. He was indeed very supportive, and the fact he seems to have taken time to hang out with the kid and treat him like a supportive dad tells me hopefully that was the case.
Hospitals have social workers for cases like this. A sad, and common, reality of our job
He hasn’t, because this is a dramatisation. It’s not a hospital, it a TV production studio. East Enders& Coronation Street are not real. It’s the sentiment that’s the point.
@@raynarks missing the point ray...
that “you’ve got to be joking me!!” just fried me SO BAD like i love their accents 😭
Sometimes when your gay you choose your own family
When you choose your family. Not being dictated to.
I wouldn't choose my family if they did this to me. Ever. I'm gay but still I'm not free. It's a struggle because it's not 'normal'.
There are actually parents like this, it's so sickening.
Unfortunately there is. It’s cruel. 😢
These kinds of parents should be charged with child abuse.
My parents acted this wake when I came out as trans. Needless to say, our relationship is not very good now.
@albedougnut so sorry.b ❤️
@@theoriginalskinseythat is the most stupid comment I’ve seen so far😅 so by your logic parents are supposed to agree with everything their child wants to do and be?
At 63 years of age I still battle this "Homosexual" thing and it's not easy. I was spiritually mutilated as a teenager and never got over it.
Don't let this happen to your children. Being who you are isn't a bad thing. Religion made it that way.
Some people allow these "so called" scriptures to dictate what kind of person you are vs the kind of person you need to be. I could go on and on but really, what good would it do?
This over the top "Christian" view of homosexuality has really caused some serious problems for billions of people over the years.
As long as there is religion, there's going to be problems.
Peace.
I was very lucky. I found an accepting, embracing church right when I came out so did not suffer spiritually. I believe God created you as you are and it is very good. You are a treasure to God, beloved and beautiful. I have no doubt about this at all. No church can ever take that away from me because my relationship with God does not depend on any church or preacher anymore. It was a preacher who taught me this. An out gay preacher! Peace, brother. Happy to talk more if you wish.
Shame on these delinquent parentsThey should be jailed
Back to your echo chamber
The really sad thing is we are supposed to have progressed but I would never hold my husbands hand or kiss him in the street. Especially in London as it takes one idiot with a knife and it is all over!
Today I had the same tought...I'm a woman from Southern Europe. And yes I was thinking "there is a marriage law, adoption law, sexual orientation discrimination forbidden in the Constitution. But if i kiss another female in public there will be stares and muttering of comments. It's hard to accept myself really
For the life of me I'll never understand how parents can/would disown their own child because of their sexuality. ....
It happens all the time, in some places more than others, and you always have to be prepared for that
Exactly u don't understand
@@frosty_manX care to enlighten then?
If they are prone to doing that then its valid to disown the parent, get away early to- no stop no more angry birds or
There was a moment in which I HAD to open myself to my mother about my sexual orientation and it was devastating. We would constantly argue on the silliest of things, because she would not understand me at all. She had a specific concept going on in her head on what I was supposed to do and what I wanted to do - which where completely different things. She used to think I would go around and have sexual intercourses with whoever showed up at my door. Even old friends of mine were not allowed to go to my house, since she thought we always had second intentions. I could not go out with my friends, I could not stay out for long - at least not without a fight. However, as the time went by, she came to her senses and realized that there was actually nothing wrong happening, I was just the same old me, as I have always been. She said "This is not the life I expected you to live". It was not mine, either. It just happened and I am okay with it. It is who I am. Today we are in excellent terms and love each other, we even talk about the guys I date. We just needed patience and open minds to one another. I hope everyone can achieve peace, someday. We deserve it.
I had something a bit similar. My mom used to distrust me around girls because I might be lying to get more alone time with girls, but also distrust me around guys because I might not have been lying. So she was wary of me having friends altogether. That wasn't fun to go through when I was already introverted and socially awkward to begin with in early high school. It was hard enough making friends already!
My mom is in the beginning phase. I used to be so depressed from ms through high school, but now there’s a lot of representation I definitely understand myself. I started just being myself whether listening to girly pop music, or dressing with more jewelry. My mom started questioning if I was gay with disgust because she never saw me that way. I know she was devastated and disgusted, but I did it on purpose. I know eventually she’ll move on.
This is why most youth does drugs to Numb their pain and forget the abuse and disrespect its sad 😢
this actor of boy is amazing
Who is he, he so familiar
The doctors are amazing for the way they reacted
As a parent, I'm a mother, I wouldn't think of turning my back on my child. I've been there every step of the way through their questioning of their gender, I love and support them so much. It's not easy seeing them depressed some days but we get through it.
Yeah but you cannot be a different gender. No matter what they "think" they are. sorry
@@XavierPersuadeswhy not
The worst thing is when u cant rely on ur own parents!!
I like how the doctor understood immediately and got rid of the parent quickly and somewhat calmly.
Im worried about the same thing happening between me and my mother. Unfortunately gay is not as accepted in Asian households as much.
Mmm I can imagine that's sadly true tbh, I wish you all the best anyway. Most of my generation in my family are male and most of us are gay and everyone seems fine with it. My nan's sister's husband make an uncool remark once. He was quickly shut down by my nan. No-one messes with nan! 😉
you'd better hurry or I'll tell her first (you put enough info in your bio for me to do so)
@@alrud12 ever considered doing something useful with your life?
In this day and age, we should know better and not have something like this happen. Some men like other men, and some women like other women. Get over it.
i fear you ate
@@heiroferk Fear I ate what?
@@Abitibidoug It's slang for "You spoke the truth"
@@heiroferk Bro ate and left no crumbs
@@StarstruckChiroMusic Thanks for the explanation, it's another addition to my database of sayings.
That young man is such a fantastic actor.
Ive been out for 20yrs, been with my boyfriend for 11yrs, living together for 10yrs, still get that awkwardness when I meet a new person who assumes I'm straight ! "So do you and your missus live locally?" "Well yes and no....we live locally but its a Mr not a Mrs" 😂😂
I'm bi and I know that I'll be kicked out if I come out, and where I live, being a part of the lgbtq community is usually frowned upon or people will make fun of you. I feel pressured to make the men liking side of me more apparent than the part of me that likes girls too. My first kiss was with a girl, and I want to tell people, but no one will accept that.
I’ll be kicked out to..of my country!
That’s got to be the most spacious room I’ve ever seen in a British A&E department! That’s enough to fit in ten cubicles in a typical NHS hospital!
LOL that's so true!
Well it’s a Resus. They all look pretty similar. Large rooms with space. I’m assuming you’ve never set foot in one ?
They’re not meant to fit 10 cubicles in they’re not meant to fit any cubicles, it for critically ill patients who need emergency medicine not your average “I’ve broken my arm”
This is kind of similar to me at the moment. I know I'm bisexual and have deliberately avoided coming out to my dad or bringing up the idea of ever going out with a guy because of him being so homophobic. Its not that he 'doesn't like' people who go out with people of the same sex -- but rather he refuses to contemplate their existence. Its saddening. I've told my friends I'm bi and they're otally supportive. My mum probably wouldn't mind if I told her, my sister is super chill, but its just my dad and his super traditional family. Problem is I financially rely on him at the moment as I go through uni, and am nervous he'd do something like cut my allowance if I were to 'come out'. Can't wait until I'm independent!
Good Luck when you become independent.
Hopefully you find someone who loves you for you and doesn't dismiss your Bisexual Identity (Bi Erasure is a massive problem with society).
The Dad's reaction is far more common than I think most people today realize. It's not always a happy ending....yet. But we escape the biological families who reject us, and find a whole new family and community who accept and elevate us. The child's pain doesn't always totally vanish, but the bigoted parents lose far more than the child in the end.
As a 21 years old man struggling these thoughts about my same sex friends, people and etc for 8 years and even more that I didn't know about them, I can understand him. I'm not still out to my parents or even my friends and imagining myself in his position, with a homophobic society, homophobic parents, friends, teachers and more, reminded me again that I still can't have a boyfriend, kiss him, hold his hand while we're walking down the street, introducing him to my family and friends. His suffocation at the first moments is a similar thing that I feel in my throat everyday. Hope we all be humans and respect eachother as humans. It even gets harder when you've been struggling with anxiety and stress and OCD for more than 6 years
While the entire clip was uncomfortable and heartbreaking, what got me crying was the kid constantly apologizing to the doctors and blaming himself. I had a feeling i knew why, and it hurts. When a parent makes you feel like a burden, all you ever feel like doing is apologizing for existing. I know that feeling all too well. I'm 42 and still find myself apologizing a lot, even for things that aren't my fault. Thanks, mom...
Let's spare a moment to recognise all the brilliant work that British dramas and soaps have done over the past 30 years to positively change attitudes towards LGBT people.
The dad was so close, but then he ruined it at the very end...
its nearly 2025 why 50 years after Stone wall is this still a hard road to travel and such a rough rough way to go anyway thanks to the Beeb for bringing this up again because some actual youngster somewhere just realised he is not the only one after seeing these actors
Why? Religiots mostly.
It's not hard most people don't care
@@MONKEYDZETS --- Why Pride? Being discriminated against in housing and employment, being called an "abomination" in the church you grew up in, denied militarily serving your country openly prior to 2011, being gay bashed on the street for holding the hand of someone you love--- and STILL standing up to the bigots by refusing to continue to lie? By living your life openly and honestly? THAT takes more courage than most will ever know.
People disagree about everything.
@@MONKEYDZETS --- Religiots care. And they are legion.
That turn was heart breaking 😢 the son really thought his dad was on his side. The worst thing that you can as a parent is killing your kids self-esteem then you will be become their number one enemy.
The way the doctor stood up for him 4:24 🙂💔💔💔❤️🩹❤️🩹
This sort of happened to me.
I was raised in a fundamentalist home in the 80s. I ended up so freaked out about my sexuality I developed conversion disorder, which expressed as pseudoseizures. I was in the hospital for almost a day before the neurologist on call showed up to diagnose me, sleeping in because he thought it was a minor drug overdose and I could do with learning a lesson I guess? Every hour or so the anti-seizure medicine would wear off enough to start another seizure and they would administer more. The hospital didn't charge us a thing because they were worried my parents would sue them over the doctor's callousness, with the nurses saying they would testify against him.
God that was embarrassing to happen, but especially as a way for a teenager to come out to his fundie parents.
I can understand how he felt and even I tried to hide my sexuality but it was the pain that made me feel worse about myself till I dared to emit it for the first time back in 2018 at Dublin Airport to my family. So I couldn't be any happier for him to emit that sort of a thing to his Dad.
Horrible that his father doesn't accept him, but awesome that the doctors are protecting him from hate.
That poor kid 😢
Why is it. That the people we don't fancy or sleep with are the ones who are the biggest problems. SOCIETY and Expectations are the reason so many of us die by our own hands. Those thumpers who CLAIM to be doing GODS work is in for a very rude awakening.
Thank you BBC as a human. For making this video. Fyi im not gay. But i do 100% understand the pain .
I'm so tired of god fearing nutjobs telling people what to do and then playing the victim. Besides, you know damn well that Jesus would never treat anyone like this.
Yeah. He would spread the word and invite all who came to listen. He let those who ignored him pass by.
The SVT treatment is surprisingly accurate! Props to whoever they hire as expert for the show.
No one should be ashamed for being a certain sexual orientation.
Genuinely surprised they knew about the whole blow into the syringe technique. That's a vagal maneuver used to try to reduce the heart rate. Although I would have gone right to medication (antidote for overdose or something to slow the heart) and possibly shocking him to reset the heart (sorry, paramedic here).
This is still happening today . What parent's seem to forget is that you both made your kids . So don't put the blame on them . Instead embrace them and love them .
I'm terrified of hospital dramas, I literally can't cope with them - BUT this is British drama, writing and performance at its best. Big props to the entire cast and crew, and thank you BBC for making such captivating and moving content for global audiences.
The son looks like Luke Skywalker when Darth Vador told him he was his father. 3:13
my father told me that i ruined his dream for him which was for me to have a wife and have kids so he can be a grandfather. i told him that he still can cuz i do want a family just with a man. and he was very disgusted. we dont talk anymore i dont waste my time on someone still "processing" more then 10 years later. Men have alot of issues and putting pressure on other men is one of them. its time we stop giving these kinds of men attention. we dont need their validation or anything. live your lives guys . their loss
It was hard for me to come out to my parents as gay but they never gave up hope that I would become a heterosexual. Praise Jesus their prayers were answered, and now I’m thriving as a transsexual! Straight is great!🙏🏳️⚧️🩷
BWAHHAHA
But deep down, you have a great power. I could make a sec joke but no
This was alternately like a punch in the gut, and then a relief... but still A GUT-PUNCH. I have a gay child, and a non gender-conforming grandchild from another child. Whomever may be feeling more-emboldened to spew ignorance and hate (due to some recent political events in various countries), know this: You're outnumbered; and we fight.
Please please please keep them protected. I'm hoping it's just a spur of the moment thing but this latest electoral vote has made the wrong group feel emboldened. Here in indiana klan posters have been showing up and I honestly sometimes don't even want to leave my house out of fear but I know where I am safe and make sure that they do as well.
@@ronaldmorris1462 I appreciate and relate-to your counsel. We live in a strange and volatile era - which way will the path lead? Through a dark forest, perhaps. But there's always light.
Thank you. Sometimes family is is all that matters, what other people think only has as much weight as your insecurities about the people you care about the most, and if you know they're with you, you feel strong enough to take on whatever the world throws at you.
Thank you for being a true father (or mother, if I guessed wrongly) and giving your child and grandchild the support, love, and respect they deserve. Greetings and respect from a former foster, now de-facto, dad.
@@JustARandomFio It's what we do, eh?
A similar circumstance happened to me when I was 22 yrs old in 1964 .
I had a panic attack at the movies but managed to sit it out . Then when I got home I had a very irregular heart beat .
My fear was the discrimination of being gay was quite serious in those days . I had five older very straight older brothers .
Fortunately my father and mother were very tolerant of different sexualities .
They had parties employing a female impersonator ( Noel McKay) and I should have realised then I-only 13 years old then- that I could have come out to them at a much younger age
My oldest brother was a medical student then and through the cardiologist who checked me over ( he asked me what was bothering me to get such a reaction which I bravely revealed to him) he told my parents.
To my delight Mum replied “well, Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vince were great men in history, and mother in particular said that Oscar Wilde was one of the best in the literary arts etc . She was a great one for reciting poetry, being an avid reader.
And Dad said during the Wars and in World War 2 homosexuality was common even in the armed forces in America where male bonding was common and also gave these men courage to be serve in the forces.
You can imagine the relief I felt . Only 1 of my brothers guessed I was gay but he thought nothing of it and said just get in with your life . These are the best years of your life and make the most of them, especially those years at school. But be sensible and take care .
So I still had to suppress my feelings but at least felt at ease thinking things could get better.
Having experienced those decades from the 50’s in looking back makes me appreciate all the more my journey was such I can still sit back and smell the roses.
My one disappointment was I never had a romantic relationship ( I’m a hopeless romantic at heart really) although a few long term relationships.
Wow you must be at least 100 years old you are the oldest person on UA-cam
my kids four sons!! know how we (me and my wife think) be yourself. i rather have em happy with a man than unhappy with a lady.
whatever happens they got our blessing!
A parent's job isn't to judge their children or to tell them what they are, but to love them unconditionally and guide them in life, accepting that they are who and what they are without prejudice or ignorance. Even if they don't understand and it goes against what they've thought or believed up to this point, they have an absolute obligation to accept their children. This was definitely a failure on the father's part and not the child's.
Bro has strength. When my heart rate was that high i was shaking uncontrollably and drifting in an out of coniousness.
It pisses me off when some people are so stuck in their close minded, bigoted way of thinking! God made us all in his image & also made us who we are. People need to get off their soapbox & accept everyone! Gay, straight, black, white, brown or whatever else. No one has the right to judge anyone but themselves! I am bi-sexual by the way, and proud of it!
Agreed. I am so sick and tired of hearing self-confessed Christians try to push their weird moral dogmas on me. Follow your own damn rules and let me follow what is right for me. Personally, I think Christianity has been so co-opted and perverted by power structures over the centuries that they've ripped the heart of Jesus right out.
Well that doctor seems more like a dad than his actual dad
Wow Casualty is getting really accurate and technical. I haven't watched it in so many years. Love it!
Ok sort of accurate anyway
When the father said, "Jimmy, you dont need therapy"
Me: OMG WE HAVE A SUPPORTIVE FATHER, WAHOO 😮😄
When the father said, "You are strong enough to make them go away on their own"
Me: 😶 *crickets*
i dont have kids but as a parent to have your kids HIDE things from you is telling to how youre doing as a parent.
The moment his smile faded made me so sad when he thought his dad was gonna accept him but didn’t.
I wish I could have someone like that doctor there for me too. I have no one I can talk to about my feelings and am too scared to open up to anyone
You are welcome to message me. I am a gay Christian and at peace with it. My pastor is ok with it too!
@@curiousguy12003thank you, I did write a longish reply to you, but the bullies at UA-cam have deleted it.
Even the UA-cam admin bullies hate me as they have deleted my reply to you and all I said was thank you for your support
@@sb6678 Wow. You're welcome!
Same here😢
Poor son :( no son should ever go through this pain!!
Poor lad. What an awful cruel father
As a parent, it is your job to accept and support your child no matter their sexuality, not to judge and mistreat them.
Never put off your own happiness to keep someone else happy who doesn't appreciate u
never once saw this show, don't know these characters at all, no background. but this small scene alone made me tear up for the kid, the nurse, the doctor, ahhhh my heart
Homophobia is simply hating people who society and religion believe are dispicable .. .It amazes me how they weaponize God to preach there gospel of intolerance . Stand up to the haters in your community and make it known that the time has come that they can no longer stand behind the idols of fear and oppression ....
Look at history. Religion has been a tool for control. Tools can be used as weapons and religion is no different. In fact it is mostly used as such.
This is clearly a moving acting moment but unfortunately there are fathers and families who can't understand how deeply their actions or words could hurt a gay guy. Some guys manage to keep themselves strong, some others could die inside. I quit a 4 years relationship for these reasons and still I'm incapable of seeing myself into a stable relation again. Scars will never fade away from me.
My God, that was moving! It made my eyes leak. That father is an insecure, miserable human being.
Yeah my dad threw me out at Barely 17. I have nothing to do with my entire family since I came out of the closet, because they wanted nothing to do with me. That was 20 years ago. At this point they have reached out here and there to me, however being thrown out at 17 with no warning, no clothes, not even my backpack or school supplies, which my mother is "rich" and before I came out to her she would give me 1000's of dollars a month, she cut me off when she found out I was gay, and my dad deliberately waited until I ran out of money in my bank account before throwing me out, which caused me to be homeless immediately and lasted for a few years. I had to drop out of high school to survive, when I had straight A's, I was being asked by Ivy League colleges to attend/apply them due to my sat score and I assume grades, I had an internship at the Whitehouse because I scored in the top 5-10% on my SATs that would have started after I graduated and before I started going to University (during the summer), which I lost due to dropping out of high school and not graduating on time, etc, I ended up graduating a year later then I was supposed to, and my gpa dropped from a 3.9 to a 3.4 because I didn't care at that point about it anymore and I didn't study to pass my last few classes with A's, hell I didn't even study at all, I got B's and C's in the last few credits I needed to graduate from just what I already knew. Ironic thing is I had college credits before I graduated high school from being in the IB programs. Anyways I cannot forgive them now, nor do I want ANYTHING to do with them. I have built my life from the ground up, I love my life, I love what I have built for myself, and I do not have room for them to attend my life, or for them to be apart of my life at any point in the future. Yes im still angry at them, but not for throwing me out, but for what they potentially stole, or took from me by throwing me out. I worked very hard as a kid to get to where I was going, and I worked very hard to make them proud of me, maybe over compensating for the fact I was gay, and hoping I would be enough for them to accept me. Anyways I can't forgive them for what they potentially took from me as a child, and the future I was building for myself then.
I can relate to this so much. I was in the hospital for two weeks when I got sick from an incurable virus because people who I had considered as my second family found about my secret and my will to continue to be here was at an all time low. I’ve lost people but everyday is a challenge. Just got to make it one day at a time
You and I are beloved and beautiful to God. That's what I believe 100%
4:24 He has the same name as me. As a trans person hearing someone say you’re gonna be alright to someone with my name was so comforting, it felt like it was directed to me in a way. Especially with a family who don’t really accept me for who I actually am.
i hope you find your peace, friend!