Bad Gear - Korg Monotribe - Where’s Version 2???
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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Monotribe Analogue Ribbon Station. Is the successor to this analog groovebox, bigger sibling of the Monotrons and acid version of a classic Electribe long overdue? Where's Version 2???
Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
01:11 Overview Korg Monotribe
01:49 Oscillator & Filter
02:22 Envelope
02:43 LFO
03:18 Ribbon Controller
03:45 Sequencer
04:52 Drum Section
05:11 What else???
05:41 Hate
06:10 Jam 1
07:05 Jam 2
07:53 Finale
08:21 Verdict
09:31 Patreon Vocoder Shoutout
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz
Check out the Donner B1, please!
I won't pay for a full track, I need it for free.
@@_lun4r_ ...and I need to buy food;)
@@AudioPilz good excuse but i don't think Patreon is your only source of earnings in your life
I got two of these, but they went to war.
A point is all that you can score
True heroes!!!
Haha! Trevor Horn just face palmed…
there can only be one
tribalism
Monotribe is the most minimal setup someone needs to make Aphex Twin-like sounds and sequences. Big thumbs up for this little monster
So true!!!
I remember doing acid last year and needing my monotribe on and holding down a beat to keep grounded. 10/10 would recommend
😀
The Monotribe is the one instrument I use in everything. After adding a MIDI input, this immediately became my main synth. (Also, I got it when they came out and was today years old when I learned about that 16-step sequencer update.)
Midi should be mandatory on this!
i call the synth section "MS - 0.5"
the filter is a doozy
@@AudioPilz Midi should be mandatory on everything, even hair dryers. Imagine the possibilities!
Me too, i do exact same..🤣 and love it today...
@@AudioPilz ich kanns dir machen, war easy
monotribe is banging. and everyone who had one when they came out also had a monotron delay. deadly combo. monotribe drums sound so good, just lacking native contouring and so mods are rather necessary on it. and that squelchy ms-20 filter in a small unit. killer. partners great with dfam/subharmicon/m32/minibrute2s/etc.
The filter and LFO are great!!!
korg did great with all these little machines.
Monotron delay is something you can take out to get rid of unwanted ( or no longer wanted ) visitors
@@yvesturgeon9585 Agreed. Isn't that glorious? But seriously, it's much more useful than that: Does amazing vintage sounding dub delay a la King Tubby and Lee Perry, sounds like nothing else modern. But yes, can also be used by itself to drive the girlfriend fucking insane.
I think this is a case where the legacy of the instrument is far more impressive than the instrument itself!
So true!!!
I bought it for the audio in to filter. Saved me binning all my numerous cheap synths from the bad gear collection.
Most underrated synth. A permanent fixture to my setup. Cant wait to try the new $100 Behringer thingy
Hirotribe!!!
When and if Behringer release it
My very first big boy synth! The cutoff filter/gate is absolutely mean and the drum machine sounds amazing through distortion. Still holds a very special place in my heart.
Nice! How did you handle the noise?
@@AudioPilz Well, I was also 16, and was trying to make a mediocre power electronics project, so I kind of just ran with it.
I think it's important to point out that it does have CV/gate control as you don't have to mod it with midi to use external keyboards/sequencers. I loved watching those Kid Shurke videos.
Thanks for the heads up!
Haha - the sliding Uli face when you mentioned the Monotribe 2 had me laughing out loud. Genius. Your reviews really are a great melange of comedy and information.
Thank you!!!
My favorite MS-20 based instrument. Even more than the MS-20 re releases. The LFO on this thing is insane.
Really like the Volca Kick too!
My first synth. Learnt Pink Floyd’s On The Run from a UA-cam comment:
“Octave 32, wave square, range key,
notes: BDED AGAB (going up the
scale - apart from A - G)
Other settings: Peak 50%, EG flat,
target VCF, mode 1shot, wave triangle
Rate 60%.
No Bass Drum or Snare drum. Hi Hat
on steps 1, 5 & 8
Start with cutoff 0%, intensity 0% &
rythm off - then raise cutoff &
introduce rythm.
Now play with cutoff & intensity.”
That's rather precise;)
I love my MIDI-modded Monotribe! “Monica” is the first synth I attempted to mod…she’s now held together by electrical tape :P definitely made some dumb mistakes, BUT it resulted an even more fun, totally unpredictable instrument that I still use as the backbone of a lot of my tracks! Thanks for the vid :)
Thanks for watching!!!
where's the vid on that?
Version 2 comes neatly from behringer with hirotribe
You might be correct;)
It's worth mentioning that after firmware update 2.1, the Monotribe's synth part can be externally triggered using CV/Gate via Sync In jack (no mods required). All that's needed is the proper TRRS splitter cable, connected to Sync In. Works great with the BSP, Keysteps and Microbrute. The only downside is that you lose Sync In capabilities when using this feature - not a big deal if you're using it mainly as a synth (no drums), otherwise just use it as sync master. Also the clicks can be smoothed out by adding a capacitor between two easily accessible points on the PCB.
Thanks for the clarification, missed that aspect of the instrument
love this thing so much! all these years, and its still hours of fun every time I pick it up
Agreed!
Yes it did feel like an alien when it was released, I remember it. Analog synths were starting to come back in style at that time, and it really felt like a taste of things to come, which is right in many aspects, yet the Monotribe still feels like a weird beast today.
I remember that very well too
These came out when I was in college. My very first analog synth and my introduction to hardware music production. The synth engine is especially good for synthesized drum sounds and percussive sounds; the otherwise distracting clicking is actually handy in this case. The rate of the LFO goes faster than any other analog synth I’ve used and allows for the creation of unique timbres. I find it shines best when paired with a sampler.
As you suggested the monologue is probably the more practical choice these days, the slim keys are actually some of my favorite on a synth, however, I keep my monotribe for the immediacy, portability, kitsch drums (that hit hard when distorted/overdriven), sample and hold and nostalgia.
The LFO on this is so nice!
Sounds lovely! Nice work Flo!❤️🤘🏽
Thanks!
You always find a way to push these machine to their limits!!! Much appreciated!
Thanks!
I have some great a great memory of this box
I was working at a music store
And it was a chill moment/day. We decided to hook it up to a pa system and whenever the store was empty we would jam on this box. So fun.
Nice!
Great as always Florian. Thx🖤
Thank you!!!
Nice, your timing is spot on again. I just ordered the midi mod kit yesterday! I’m looking forward to using it again, and your jams were particularly inspiring!
Nice, thanks!
It's beautiful in its simplicity, cannot be called bad gear! Especially passing it through a monotron delay to get that gritty acid atmosphere 😁
That's gonna be a noisy affair;)
I had the updated V2 with yellow overlay, added a DinTribe MIDI kit to it. Great Fun for some DAF grooves.
Midi kit is essential
I love this show so much and watch it every week! Looking forward to you eventually getting your hands on the new Roland Aira Compact series and making videos about them.
Thanks for being my favorite UA-cam channel!
Thank you so much! Unfortunately, I have yet to make it on Rolands early access list;)
I was so hoping you would do an episode on this maschine, super dope!
😀😀😀
Aaaand another real gem in the series! Also, your jams are real gems (haha), as usual!
The Monotribe is a future classic, I'm quite sure about it. Well, the clicky envelope sucks ass big time, it's a true nightmare... Luckily, there's an easy mod for softening it and getting rid of the awful clicks which is a must-do for anyone who actually want to make music with the Tribe. Once I read about this mod I immediately applied it on mine: life is waaaayy better since then!
Aaaand also the first time I'm submitting some criticism: Hey, you forgot to mention and/or to explore the CV/GATE mode which has been the biggest upgrade of the Monotribe by miles, added by firmware update 2.11 in 2013 (or 2015?)
When played or sequenced by devices which use a single combo-jack socket for cv and gate output, only a simple TRRS to TRRS jack cable is needed which then goes into the Tribe's Sync In. When using devices with more traditional separate cv and gate outputs, two 3.5 mm jack cables and a small TRRS jack to 2x TRS sockets breakout dongle is needed, commonly used (and shipped) with PC headsets.
I'm using mine with the latter wireup, playing & sequencing the Tribe by a Keystep or a Monostation. Works like a charm, you really should have tried it.
Fun fact: If your Monotribe has the MIDI mod AND device firmware 2.11 installed, it can act as a CV to MIDI converter as well. :)
Thanks for posting. This one is indeed entirely new to me;)
Got me with the "On the fly Electro" line 🤣⚡
;)
This is the first time I seen these. Thanks for sharing. I like the size for portability.
It's really fun to dabble around with
I haven't even finished the video but that intro killed in. so good
Thanks!!!
yeeeeahhhhhh!!!! thanksss... I was waiting it for a long timeeee!!!!
❤️❤️❤️
Finally! One of my synths gets covered. Great as usual, thanks!
Thanks!!!
@@AudioPilz well, after reading the comments I want to buy Hirotribe as well
In all your videos the finale part is incredibly astonishing. I don't know if you are making live concerts or tours, but I would like to listen live so much.
Thank you!!! No live shows at the moment but let's see what the future brings
Yet another nasty Korg groove box and another well done show reviewing it! All the best and have a nice weekend! Cheers!
Have a nice weekend!!!
The track towards the end of this video is awesome. Reminds me of AFX later works.
Thanks!
Great stuff as usual, greetings from Brasil
Obrigado!!!
I have two, & love them to bits. The midi mod is required, IMO. Still some of my most used gear!
Agreed, midi should be mandatory!
Alternatively, they added internal support for Pitch/Gate CV, so if you get the right adapter, you can use it with anything that can sequence analog gear
dude your meme game is so awesome.. almost every put in image or gif is hilarious.. so much work wow !! keep it up
Thank you so much!!!
Never found myself hitting pause more than your videos to read all the flash texts. 😂 Love the videos and proud to own a recently acquired Monotribe. Hope Behringer pulls through with the new one soon. Cheers!
Cheers (while hovering over the space bar;)
I love it. This was where I learned about synthesis.
Classic!
damn nice intro!! always loved the phat sounds of the monotribe!
Thanks!
MonoTribe was my first Synth. Still love it, would never get rid of it.
Classic gateway drug!
They actually make a great companion to the minibrute when you midi them up and run the output through the brute.
Nice technique!
MIDI mod is essential and u can reduce the clicks by filtering out the note off messages. There's an Ableton device designed for that, and it provides control of some parameters and a "patch save" feature. Still pretty clicky though :(
Great technique!
Awesome jam!
Thank you!!!
My first analog synth! My first synth that wasnt a rompler as well. Its a one trick pony but i had a lot of fun with it. I even installed a five pin midi port
Perfect first synth!!!
fun demo tracks this week!
Thanks!!!
its an excellent machine. love mine, have a couple. really held me down over the years. some magic in this little box. got the msw midi kit and the updates. ill never be without.
It's a keeper for me as well
your best music in the series so far, imo. big thumb up
Thank you!!!
This is my favorite thing I own, I sleep with it. It’s the only synth I’ve owned that I worry about wearing out the knobs. I will never part with it. I use it with an SQ-1 and can control it with midi over USB. There is a sweet spot with fast LFO enabled on the osc that sounds like a scary human voice with the filter/res just right that is mind blowing.
Great channel!! You should do the Ensoniq ASR-X. The song mode on that thing drove me nuts!!
Thanks! Great suggestion!
Wieder bestens vorgetragen !!:-))
Besten Dank!!!;)
I just like leap frogging active step and writing with dice, you just had to F it all up and get fancy 😆
That's what I do;)
I have 4 of them because these things have that sound. Its limitations is what makes it all the more interesting to use. This is a classic up there in the same league as the minimoog. Nothing else I have gets close to real time inspiration these give. If there's a monotribe 2 it needs to have the same exact sound to begin with before I'd consider buying it over another used monotribe.
Let's see if Uli can nail it
The do sound fantastic. And given that Korg haven’t matched it, I very much doubt Behringer will.
I adore mine. Modded the drum sounds and added direct drum outs. I swear the sequencer has a certain swing feel to it that I lovvvvvvve
Nice!!!
Monotribe was my first synth i got it in 2015 and still love it to bits will never get rig of it. I now run it next to a volca sample its epic.
Great little setup!
Up was the best pixar/dreamworks style flick
wall-e was great too but Up is a damn emotional rollercoaster
Agreed! Well-made too!
Demo track has some cool Squarepusher vibes. Nice work as always 👌
Thank you so much!!!
This is my favorite box to improve jam on...always wondered why korg didn’t make there volca series more beefy like this
Also update allowed for ratcheting for drums
A Volca Tribe?
BTW you can carefully set the waveform lever in between position SAW/TRI and it will sort of blend them.
I tried that (bc I knew that hack from the monologue) but it didn't really yield any satisfying results
Got to admire seeing Kafka on the book shelf! Another great video and looking forward to the reported release of the “Hirotribe.”
Thank you!!!
The most loved synth in my collection.
It's a classic!
What I really like about the Monotribe is that its schematics are easy to find and the circuit design is surprisingly simple to build and modify (as evidenced by that MIDI modification). I'm currently making DIY eurorack modules based on bits and pieces of the original schematics.
Cool!!!
My first synth and always something I can go back to for a jam. Did the midi in/out mod. Noisy and clicky but powerful and charming. Love hearing your take on it. Cant say enough good things about it
Thank you!!!
You've certainly managed to get some great sounding shit out of that! Great stuff. I have a Monotron Delay which I absolutely love (and have sampled to death) so I'm surprised that I never really looked into the Monotribe.
Thanks! The Monotribe is the next logical step if you like the 'trons
I have mine since it was released and I still love it. The filter is very nice and LFO is very good.
Big fan of the LFO here!!!
I would love to see a Bad Gear live show, just AudioPilz on stage with a setup of solely bad gear equipment jamming would be incredible
Let's see if I can squeeze in a world tour;)
Have you seen ua-cam.com/video/fIozkar47cI/v-deo.html ?
Okay, Florian…that jam with the Beatstep Pro was simply kick-ass, even by your super-high standards! Great music!
Thank you so much!!!
your comedy writing is tragically underrated. thanks for everything pilzy
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks for your quality videos !! Learning a lot of things with fun, I even work my english, lol ^^ full support !
❤️🧡💛💚💙
I had two of them alongside the Montron Delay. Could've been my first hardware overall. When the firmware-update came, I was blown away. Still didn't add MIDI of course. I kind of liked the thing but did not really do anything else than generic Acid with no variation whatsoever... - Decided to sell both units for around 100 european credits each. Years later I wondered and searched ebay...that was the moment I hated people. Still haven't gotten over that. Seeing the prices in your video: at the time I looked for it again, it was double that amount.
OMG! The Finale animations!! 🙀 edit: great episode and a great idea for my wantlist tbh lol
Thank you!!!
The Monotribe was my first analog synth. It has a modded MIDI USB connection. I recently busted it out after a few years and found I was way better tweaking it than I remembered.
8:05 🔥
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@@AudioPilz 🤘🏻😝
THERE HE IS! Happy Friday everyone!
Have a nice weekend!!!
Thanks for another fab show. Monotribe is more full featured than I realised. S&H ?!?! Why didn't they give is that on the monologue.
Btw, Patreon slipped up by not including you in the synthfluencers supergroup.
Yeah, that S/H is nice! I don't think that would have worked out so well;)
my first analog synth! it's still really fun and the filter is absolutely monstrous.
Agreed, great filter!
it took all of about 1 minute to go from hating this thing to wanting one badly. Great ep!
Thanks!!!
Fantastic! I have one of these, and while I don't make real music with it, it's fun to jam out and make some cool sounds.
I hope Korg does a v2 update with MIDI and maybe another oscillator.
Cheers :)
I'm afraid Behringer will be first;)
Korg's update with MIDI and two oscillators (but no drums) is called Monologue.
Very amusing Uli popping up there at the right moment. Those flashing memes are driving my OCD nuts. I can't read them in time and having to pause them lol.
Nothing personal;)
@@AudioPilz No worries mate! Keep up the great content.
I LOVE my Monotron Delay. Only one I ever used but its fantastic. A character that's all its own.
Classic!
LMAO, yours is the most fun and entertaining music gear channel ever!
Thank you!!!
The sample hold with the filter saved me during the covid lockdown
S/H is good for your health;)
They are so fun!
Thanks!😀
I LOVE this device!!!
Really fun to use!
I liked the Korg Monotribe and had the Midi-interface from “Amazing Machines”, which was very easy to install.
A limited Korg MS-20 kinda sound and a small drummachine alla KR-55 in one desktop…. That is a great combo.
I remember using Monotribe live on stage for improvising. Basically starting the recording and roll a finger back/forth on the ribbon a few times and you maybe have something interesting [Like rolling a dice]
Yeah, it can be quite random
It sounds a lot like my Monotron Duo. Nifty!
That one is rad!
Great video!
Preaching to the choir as I have 6 of these.
Not sure if you mentioned the CV control over this which is my preferred method of control.
Other less mentioned MOD on Modwiggler are the VCO MUTE MOD, so you mute the oscillator to have resonant noise minus a tone, or the other mod is CV control over cutoff frequency.
About 5 years ago I took 4 of these and made a four voice polytribe.
With the CV Filter Cutoff mod this allows you to use an external envelope of say a Microbrute to sweep the filter with a sustain level. By gating the VCA full on, you can then get release as you set the filter to act as low pass gate.
Thanks! Missed the CV part, thanks for the heads up!
That midi cable on the beatstep apparently costs some 27,+€.
as always great tunes.
Thank you!!!
No joke, the monotribe is the piece of gear I always come back to play, jam, hook up to different effects and just have a really good time.
Even my friends who are not into synths can understand the workflow in 10 minutes and jam with it.
This was my best buy for a synth and sequencer.
Great for that!
It takes to pedals like a champion, such an apt and raw sound for processing.
if the release dates had been better and if Korg were as into guitar gear as Roland, the monotribe could have been promo'ed in a package deal with a little pedalboard and PSU (w/ cables to power and sync more volcas)
This channel is unfair: in this guy hands even the "very utterly baddest" gear sounds exceptional. Hats off!
Thank you so much!!!
@@AudioPilz Actually, your channel proofs that talent overcomes the limitations of the gear!
If I had that when I was 13 in 1977, I would have been so happy and blown away. Now, I'm jaded, and it looks like a headache to use, like you explained.
I feel you!!!
You were Kid Schurke? The internet is small. I really liked your jams and I lusted for the monotreme since hearing them. Good work.
Nope, not at all. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Long time admirer though
7:00 Nice Now we can see the inside of matrix
Lol
Loved the final dude 07:53 ! RELEASE THE TRACK ! Squarepusher is taking notes right now hahaha
Thanks!!! Got a full track on my Patreon (end of plug;)
I only modded mine with two extra outs for the drums and synth being separated. The drums thru the original monotron are sounding much better in my ears.
Before starting to watch this episode I was thinking: He must mention his Ösi-Buddy Schurke... Wasnt disappointed...of course. Thanks!
Isn't Schurke Swiss? His vids mention Zürich as the location...
Hmm, I think youre right...(he has this Gig in Zürich)
Anyways thanks ;-)
Great episode again! Monotribe prices heading north after this one. Hirotribe interest increasing too. Hope Korg are taking lessons. The clicky envelope release kills my joy for the Monotribe. Classic bad gear! It's freaking awesome but with a few huge flaws.
Thanks! Yup, I assume it was limited on purpose
Please don't forget the fancy display.
Fancy displays are a must;)
the "un-click" mod is very easy to do and totally worth it !
And yeah midi mod obviously :D
Yup, really need to get one of these