been watching all the episodes of this show lately, so so good. Wasn't around in the 80's so I love hearing how people really thought back then. was watching an episode the other day and this woman says she'll never get into the microcomputer business because it will never be as profitable as selling main frames haha 😂absolutely love it!
I don't really blame her, some important people back then even looked down on the home computer(or even computer itself): The founder of DEC(Digital Equipment Corporation), Ken Olsen, once said in 1977: "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." And the president of IBM, Thomas Watson, said in 1943: "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
@@viata. And let's not forget Alan Shugart, who doubted that the 3.5'' floppy would ever replace the 5.15'' floppy on this very show. "Hindsight is 20/20", as the saying goes.
Amazing he is there on an XT with a modem talking about looking up a product, getting more details, buying it and what not not knowing he was describing ecommerce before it and the internet existed for the average person. I am glad Stewart has gotten to see what computers have become. Wish Gary had too.
Always perfect with his English as well “joining Gary and Me” is correct as me is the object of the verb! Love it when people get that right! One of the best programs on TV ever!
10:50 So, the idea of password managers have been around since the very beginning. "The ID is 12 digits long. I have it memorized, but why should I bother?". Exactly.
@20:13 and this is what spurred the growth of commercial Internet. Prior to the Internet you had closed commercial operators running interconnected networks that allowed the use of providers seen here in this episode. A lot of them were operating on obsolete infrastructure, such as Telenet and Tymnet, which is also what made them slow and non-reactive to the fast growth. Once it was realized one didn't need these commercial middlemen in the way, Internet, simply as a means of ability to network distanced computers, was the way to go. These middlemen often charged crazy high prices simply because they could.
Most people with home computers had a modem at that time. Yes, it was slow and as Gary mentioned, if you lived outside a major city your ability to locally connect to a national provider was not very likely to happen. Still, the per minute charges were astronomical for these places. Hence why local BBS services were a lot more popular with the masses.
The database application has been my favorite kind of program since 2002. The first database program I have used intensely was Microsoft Access 2002. I discovered several techniques that enabled me to master Microsoft Access. I like many of the Microsoft Windows databases better in at least two respects. (1) The database objects such as tables, queries, forms and reports are easier to use than those in the databases that were controlled by DOS. (2) Modern databases have the report object included and they do not require a separate report generator. Today, I use Microsoft Access 2019 and spend more time with it, than with my springboard, Microsoft Word.
It was even sooner than that. Q-link was a graphical front end for Commodore 64 computers to utilize the network service. That later became known as AOL.
Dialup services ... Bastards, they charge by the minute and they are the cause for the laggy response. They have no incentive to make their servers more responsive. I remember CompuServe and the enormous bills they generated.
But man, we're talking about 1984 here! At that time line speeds were about 1200 bps (bits per second) and there wasn't data compression algorithms, we didn't even think about data compression because, after all, we were dealing with files of kbytes, at maximum...
Services like Compuserve didn't own all the infrastructure. The nodes that connected dialup ports in individual cities linking to the mainframe computers were sort of like a private closed version of the internet, owned by the major telecommunication companies of the time and they charged dearly for their services.
This makes you appreciate the Web and broadband.
yeah I do dial up sucked balls it was so slow broadband today is a god send
@@raven4k998 looks like you suck balls woman
been watching all the episodes of this show lately, so so good. Wasn't around in the 80's so I love hearing how people really thought back then. was watching an episode the other day and this woman says she'll never get into the microcomputer business because it will never be as profitable as selling main frames haha 😂absolutely love it!
Was that the German woman on the episode with Adam Osborne?
I don't really blame her, some important people back then even looked down on the home computer(or even computer itself):
The founder of DEC(Digital Equipment Corporation), Ken Olsen, once said in 1977:
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
And the president of IBM, Thomas Watson, said in 1943:
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
@@viata. And let's not forget Alan Shugart, who doubted that the 3.5'' floppy would ever replace the 5.15'' floppy on this very show.
"Hindsight is 20/20", as the saying goes.
Selling mainframes today may, in percentage terms, be more profitable than desktops etc.
Amazing he is there on an XT with a modem talking about looking up a product, getting more details, buying it and what not not knowing he was describing ecommerce before it and the internet existed for the average person. I am glad Stewart has gotten to see what computers have become. Wish Gary had too.
yeah people were real stupid back then…not smart like we are now.
Always perfect with his English as well “joining Gary and Me” is correct as me is the object of the verb! Love it when people get that right! One of the best programs on TV ever!
10:50 So, the idea of password managers have been around since the very beginning. "The ID is 12 digits long. I have it memorized, but why should I bother?". Exactly.
yeah they have been around since the dawn of time basically for computers
Here I was thinking they’d be talking about early relational DBs.
you thought wrong🤣
I was expecting dBASE commands typed at the "dot" prompt.
@20:13 and this is what spurred the growth of commercial Internet. Prior to the Internet you had closed commercial operators running interconnected networks that allowed the use of providers seen here in this episode. A lot of them were operating on obsolete infrastructure, such as Telenet and Tymnet, which is also what made them slow and non-reactive to the fast growth. Once it was realized one didn't need these commercial middlemen in the way, Internet, simply as a means of ability to network distanced computers, was the way to go.
These middlemen often charged crazy high prices simply because they could.
These systems were accessible only to those who had access to a modem, often rated at 300bps in those days. Intuitive? Yeah...
Most people with home computers had a modem at that time. Yes, it was slow and as Gary mentioned, if you lived outside a major city your ability to locally connect to a national provider was not very likely to happen. Still, the per minute charges were astronomical for these places. Hence why local BBS services were a lot more popular with the masses.
Flag this episode: "Electronic mail is likely to be very important", quite possibly the only time Paul Schindler was right.
That's a bit harsh...
I wanted to be an information broker. I even went to a Dialog class. The internet killed that plan.
The database application has been my favorite kind of program since 2002. The first database program I have used intensely was Microsoft Access 2002. I discovered several techniques that enabled me to master Microsoft Access. I like many of the Microsoft Windows databases better in at least two respects. (1) The database objects such as tables, queries, forms and reports are easier to use than those in the databases that were controlled by DOS. (2) Modern databases have the report object included and they do not require a separate report generator. Today, I use Microsoft Access 2019 and spend more time with it, than with my springboard, Microsoft Word.
I usually didn't use any specific database software on my Windows PC because I primarily used it as either a word processor and/or video game console.
"when graphics?" well, eight years from airing this episode, 1992 web with GIFs.
what gif?
It was even sooner than that. Q-link was a graphical front end for Commodore 64 computers to utilize the network service. That later became known as AOL.
After reading 1984 this all makes sense now.
This seemed to be about online services, and not database software.
Dialup services ...
Bastards, they charge by the minute and they are the cause for the laggy response.
They have no incentive to make their servers more responsive.
I remember CompuServe and the enormous bills they generated.
with dialup services any telephone company in the world was probably making big bucks
Internet for the rich. Not for the people.
But man, we're talking about 1984 here! At that time line speeds were about 1200 bps (bits per second) and there wasn't data compression algorithms, we didn't even think about data compression because, after all, we were dealing with files of kbytes, at maximum...
Ha ha. And then there were BBSes...which were free.
Services like Compuserve didn't own all the infrastructure. The nodes that connected dialup ports in individual cities linking to the mainframe computers were sort of like a private closed version of the internet, owned by the major telecommunication companies of the time and they charged dearly for their services.
When db2 ibm database started
11:40-:1145 based and red pilled from 1984. bravo sir.
not the red pill take the blue pill🤣
6:53 New phone, who dis?
it's your mom
Denied!!!!!
Nope. Database clustering killed any hope of time sharing
Stewart has the worst toupee ever.
LMAO How long it took to receive an email crazy
yeah I hated dial up back then for how slow it was Broadband is such a god send so nice how fast it is over dial up
Minicomputer tapes whirring 100 miles away... 50 MB hard drives the size of an air conditioning unit...